TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > o f f t o p i c > entertainment forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-19-2022, 11:36 PM   #14121
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Biutiful (2011) - 7/10

Death is a topic that haunts me to some degree. Maybe as much as it does everyone and maybe more. Who's to say. When i read the description of this film i was drawn to it immediately.

Javier Bardem is the lead here. Street criminal who sells knock off merchandise. His life is a shit show. Estranged drug addict possibly prostitute wife. No family save a brother who is fucking said possible whore wife. Javier has custody of the kids. And he just found out he has cancer with months left to live.

Its serendipitous timing that i watch this having just watched (the masterpiece) Ikiru as there are some interesting parallels. The film ultimately deals with the struggles of death at an existential level but it does it while never talking about it. Instead we get a performance by Bardem that is told often silently. And it is very much an actors film. His film.

If you like Bardems work and this kind of macabre exploration is up your alley its worth a watch. It has a lot to say with out saying it and i very much think its worth hearing. Though i would say its worth watching the superior Ikiru first as this serves as a continuation of the topic in many ways and I'd wager that was intentional.
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2022, 07:48 PM   #14122
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
The Man Who Wasn't There - 8/10

About to do a double feature and for "the diaries" sake i wanted to joty thoughts while they were fresh but dont, sadly, have time to go into detail.

Possibly a top 3 film for the Coen Brothers. No country for old men, imo, is above contestation as their best picture. After that would be, in some order, Fargo, O Brother Where Art Thou or this.

Juggernaut casting. Amazing visuals. Superb writing. If i didnt have someone waiting on me id write an essay on how good this picture is.
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2022, 10:07 PM   #14123
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Platoon- 5/10

There are somethings this film does very very well. Theres an eye for details that truly come from first hand experiences. Ants crawling up their clothes, heat strokes, snakes, leeches. These mundane parts of life in this foreign land. These moments the film feels genuine and authentic. These moments, however, are superficial. Very little else feels genuine or authentic. For a film thats a first hand account, dramatized of course, this film rarely rings true.

This feels as authentic as Predator or any of the Rambo sequels. And i think for that reason its not remembered in the same breathe as the great war film of this or any era.

Willam Dafoe is superb. There's many roles i could point to that established him as a top 50 actor and while this wouldnt rank among his very best he's still far and away the apex of the film.

Compare his performance to the lead, Charlie Sheen, who is as vapid here as he is in Major Leagues. Inauthentic. Uninspired. His lifeless voice overs wax poetic but are void of any real insights.

And thats the film as a whole. Insipid.

And how this won best editing is beyong me. Its completely disjointed.

Its not a terrible film, few major Hollywood films are less than 4s for example. Watch some truly bad art films and your standards for what a bad film is will quickly change... but it isnt a good one either.

It ranks nearly at the absolute bottom of all "classic" war films and I'll say, off the top of my head, its the worst film to win best picture that ive seen. It's a high budget B list 80s action film with an over-inflated sense of artistry.
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2022, 07:32 AM   #14124
drave
...
 
drave's Avatar
 
Posts: 22,352
drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Feel like Platoon was just "Big Hollywood" jumping on the trend of war movies and fucking it up, kinda like today's MAJOR ACTION MOVIE START CONGLOMERATE MOVIE FILM!!!
drave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2022, 07:34 AM   #14125
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I think it was critically acclaimed because since Stone was a veteran and since Stones film said everything the critics said about the war from the outside looking in that it validated their opinions. So instead of judging on the merits of the film they judged by the merits of their own egos.
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2022, 07:46 AM   #14126
drave
...
 
drave's Avatar
 
Posts: 22,352
drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Well said.
drave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2022, 07:46 AM   #14127
drave
...
 
drave's Avatar
 
Posts: 22,352
drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)drave makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
It got the whole "video game" treatment too. The game was worse than the film.
drave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2022, 06:23 PM   #14128
Seanny One Ball
World Class References
 
Seanny One Ball's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,151
Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Charlie Sheen is out of his league between Dafoe and Berenger in Platoon. Even the supporting actors regularly lead him as performers, but that’s the whole point really. Charlie Sheen is supposed to look out of his depth and outclassed at every turn. Sadly he literally is in terms of acting quality and that’s where Destor gets it spot on.
That was an excellent review but I disagree with the rating, though I fully understand your position on it.
Seanny One Ball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2022, 06:25 PM   #14129
Seanny One Ball
World Class References
 
Seanny One Ball's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,151
Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Tried to watch the Rob Zombie “Munsters” and it made me feel ill.
Seasick specifically.

It’s totally bad.
It is not The Munsters.
Seanny One Ball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2022, 06:28 PM   #14130
Seanny One Ball
World Class References
 
Seanny One Ball's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,151
Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
The colours are insane…the set design and outfits are fucking bonkers too but at least in black and white they would have looked fantastic.

Rob Zombie is a franchise destroyer.
He cannot be trusted with beloved old media.
He ruins it.
Seanny One Ball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2022, 06:31 PM   #14131
Seanny One Ball
World Class References
 
Seanny One Ball's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,151
Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Seanny One Ball makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Destor View Post
Rashomon (1950) - 10/10

I think im a believer i Kurwasawa. I watched Seven Samuri last night/this morning (went to bed at intermission.) Great film but i wanted to see how it stacked up against his non action films. Seven Samuri is a great action. Its the kind of film ive seen from Kurwasawa in the past. Rashomon, while set in the same period, is a psychological thriller about truth and perspective.

These more serious films, even though Seven Samuri does have a serious point to make, are much much better.

This film centers around a man who finds a body in the woods and the trial that follows. Turns out a bandit came across a man and wife in the woods, fell upon them and raped the woman. The film plays out through flash backs of 4 first hand accounts of the same crime.

SPOILER: show
What's so good is all 4 accounts weigh emotional truth vs factual truth. And while all 4 accounts are lies they paint the hearts and egos of the tellers. In the end we dont have a clear picture of the truth. We have a clear picture of how each person felt and sometimes thats all we get.


Outstanding film.

Watch the Paul Newman version please.
Itís obviously not as good but the performance is arguably better.
Itís the darkest Paul Newman film besides Hombre.
Seanny One Ball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2022, 09:49 PM   #14132
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball View Post
Charlie Sheen is out of his league between Dafoe and Berenger in Platoon. Even the supporting actors regularly lead him as performers, but thatís the whole point really. Charlie Sheen is supposed to look out of his depth and outclassed at every turn. Sadly he literally is in terms of acting quality and thatís where Destor gets it spot on.
That was an excellent review but I disagree with the rating, though I fully understand your position on it.
The i think on it the less credible i find it. Sheenis the stand in for Stone himself. The sheen character finds his CO to be a scum bag of the highest order and kills him for it. How much of that is Stone thought his CO was a dick so he wrote a script where his CO was a monster of the highest order and then finally gets his win by killing him on the page? The whole thing feels weirdly dishonest and that was the opposite of what i expected from it.
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2022, 09:49 PM   #14133
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Same title?
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2022, 12:12 AM   #14134
Helmsphere
Prince Of The Forum
 
Helmsphere's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,983
Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Helmsphere makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Orphan: First Kill: 7.5/10

The first one hit us with a huge plot twist, second one hits because they they put her with a family just as eff up as her.

I haven't hated Julia Stiles this much since cheating on Bradley Cooper in Silver Lining Playbook, I mean Jesus I'm straight and I would polish prime Bradley Cooper off.
Helmsphere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2022, 01:10 AM   #14135
Lock Jaw
waJ kcoL
 
Lock Jaw's Avatar
 
Posts: 84,449
Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
RRR - 9/10

Pretty epic.... pretty long but didn't feel it.
Lock Jaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2022, 09:36 PM   #14136
Lock Jaw
waJ kcoL
 
Lock Jaw's Avatar
 
Posts: 84,449
Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Top Gun: Maverick - 8.5/10

If it had more singing/dancing interludes it could have been 9/10 like RRR.
Lock Jaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2022, 10:07 PM   #14137
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
You have my attention
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2022, 12:01 AM   #14138
Destor
I am the cheese
 
Destor's Avatar
 
Posts: 49,580
Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Destor makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Hidden Fortress (1958) - 8/10

The film doesnt have as much to say as the deeper films in the Kurwasawa catalog but its not voiceless. Visually its very interesting. The framing is perfect nearly always. Thats been a big treat for me watching his films the last month or so is this lost art of wide shots not overly edited.

Another common strand is his use of perspective. Most of his films toys with it in some fashion. With Rashomon its the central narrative and with Ikiru its through multiple perspectives that the third act is laid out. Yojimbo and Sanjuro both use it in similar ways. Yojimbo allows you to piece together the towns politics through infiltration of both sides. Sanjuro twists that slightly but its very similar in concept. With Hidden Fortress we have a zeppo story that has us follow characters that the story isnt about.

That said this is up there for me with Seven Samurai and Yojimbo/Sanjuro. It doesnt break through the bar set by his more serious pictures but its still outstanding and worth seeing for anyone who loves the medium of film.
Destor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®