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Old 10-16-2021, 06:15 PM   #121
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Haven't watched the Bryan/Suzuki fight and probably won't because it wasn't on the main show but..... I think Bryan will have done that spot in all three of his AEW singles matches now....
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While everyone else watching and discussing Dynamite, gonna watch this even though have very little desire to....
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Kicking off with CM Punk and he has misplaced his pants again. Make up your mind, dude
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Old 10-16-2021, 10:33 PM   #125
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Bourne with the jobber entrance. Not that there was a question who was gonna win, but even less now....
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Seems a bit "weird" to start a tourney for a number one contender the week right after deciding the number one contender in a ladder match...... like take a break, let it breath...
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Old 10-16-2021, 10:43 PM   #127
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Probably Punk's best showing so far going on right now, but...... just end the match already
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Old 10-16-2021, 10:45 PM   #128
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If you are gonna give Sydal this much offense and look this good against Punk, they really shouldn't have just given him the jobber entrance for this....
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Sydal really getting it in on Punk... but it isn't really making me root for Punk, but for Sydal the jobber to somehow pull out the upset...
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Old 10-16-2021, 10:49 PM   #130
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Should just watch Dynamite instead imo... was a much better show than Rampage this week
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And there we go, Punk wins. Definitely his best showing, but match went on too long and Sydal with too much offense and getting "too close" to winning that you started to root for the guy instead of Punk....
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Yeah, probably....
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Once again the one who got a jobber entrance in the women's match getting a lot of offense....
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Old 10-16-2021, 11:02 PM   #135
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And Ruby Soho "barely" wins vs the jobber
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The Bunny could really use a gimmick/name change.... I like her....
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oh no at Jericho swearing again....
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And Ruby Soho "barely" wins vs the jobber
Bunny isn't considered a jobber tbh...
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Sydal got his entrance on the Buy-In bruv
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Bunny isn't considered a jobber tbh...
She got the jobber entrance so she was the jobber
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Doesn't count for anything then
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Only excuse for Guevara beating Miro is if one of Dan Lambert's stable beats him for the title pretty quick here
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Something just happened that the cameras missed entirely that fans were chanting holy s*** to.....
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This Jorge dude does not look as good as a lot of the others in this stable... dunno why he is being built as the "final boss" of the stable....
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Where is Santana and Ortiz... are they not also in the Inner Circle still...
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Oh here they come after all the damage has been done... imagining them backstage arguing with the sound tech to play their song for a half second... their facepaint still "bad"
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Overall... I only wanted to watch this show for the main event and it was indeed the best part....

Another average showing from AEW
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This Jorge dude does not look as good as a lot of the others in this stable... dunno why he is being built as the "final boss" of the stable....
He's the biggest UFC star out of them by far
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He looks like a right wanker, though
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Old 10-16-2021, 11:38 PM   #152
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He looks like a right wanker, though
im a right wanker. the left just feels weird
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Old 10-17-2021, 04:15 PM   #153
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They did the "both guys stand there and take turns punching each other" spot that I HATE
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i like it when its established as a pissing contest deep into 30ish min match and not a throwaway spot
There are certain people I can buy it from. Happens with too many guys and too many guys that shouldn’t “let” someone beat them up.
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Old 10-17-2021, 04:22 PM   #154
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Fans swearing.... smh.... somebody think of the children....
People who take Meltzer’s hyper-literal interpretation of ratings and what they mean as gospel really underestimate how much explicit content severely caps your appeal to advertisers. Going PG was one of the smartest moves Vince McMahon ever made. AEW being “edgy” because it thinks it is for big boys leaves so much money on the table.
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Old 10-17-2021, 04:24 PM   #155
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Only excuse for Guevara beating Miro is if one of Dan Lambert's stable beats him for the title pretty quick here
AEW is very concerned about what internet fans think. They made Miro a joke for the first few months there because “you can’t push WWE guys over homegrown talent.” They are so obsessed with these online tropes that they are pushing Adam Page into the title picture ahead of Danielson and had Guevara beat Miro. This is so they can have the brag of allegedly creating their own stars. Doesn’t matter if the product is genuinely over or not.
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Old 10-17-2021, 04:48 PM   #156
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I seriously wonder about Miro....

Like, the company has a thing where they like to let guys "be themselves" and do "their own ideas" without saying no and telling them it was dumb....

So I wonder if Miro's initial goofy videogame gimmick was his idea, just being himself... to which AEW of course didn't say no to even though it was dumb. Then when it failed they drastically pivoted to make him pretty great (before derailing him for Samy), but only after giving him the "freedom" to be "dumb" at the start.
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Old 10-17-2021, 05:04 PM   #157
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I seriously wonder about Miro....

Like, the company has a thing where they like to let guys "be themselves" and do "their own ideas" without saying no and telling them it was dumb....

So I wonder if Miro's initial goofy videogame gimmick was his idea, just being himself... to which AEW of course didn't say no to even though it was dumb. Then when it failed they drastically pivoted to make him pretty great (before derailing him for Samy), but only after giving him the "freedom" to be "dumb" at the start.
I think you’re probably right. The guy has shown himself to have poor judgement in the past. Cutting his hair when in WWE, for example. Anyone who has spent a minute in entertainment knows you don’t go drastically altering your look for marketing and merchandising reasons. And his tweet with The Undertaker. The WWE tried to hold his hand, but at some point you just know a guy isn’t going to get out of his own way.

The only thing I really want to see him do is bring CJ in for a feud with Cody & Brandi firmly in the mid-card.

After that, send him on excursion. I think he could be great in New Japan with a booker guiding him.
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I watched the Buy-In and Rampage and Dynamite in one sitting last night. Bryan/Suzuki was good, but I'm with Destor that I didn't enjoy the shoe-horned tit-for-tat strike spot. Maybe if it wasn't so long/drawn out. Junior Dos Santos, Hager, etc. need to work on their punches. Looked like shit. They need to get CM Punk in a major story soon. I also wonder what the story is between him switching between trunks and tights.

Great matches. I really don't like Mark Henry's split screen segments. Always come off corny especially when Henry throws it to the ring in his forced announcer voice. I really really like the 1 hour run time of Rampage. Keeps things tight/succinct.
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(Potentially) Unpopular Opinion

Potentially because I haven’t settled it in my own mind; I’m not sure I’m a big fan of “Strong Style”. Danielson/Suzuki or WALTER/Dragunov literally beating the shit out of each other is the exact opposite of what pro wrestling is supposed to be. The idea is for it to look like it hurts, not go away with a beet red chest and welts all over the body.
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Potentially because I haven’t settled it in my own mind; I’m not sure I’m a big fan of “Strong Style”. Danielson/Suzuki or WALTER/Dragunov literally beating the shit out of each other is the exact opposite of what pro wrestling is supposed to be. The idea is for it to look like it hurts, not go away with a beet red chest and welts all over the body.
Not a bad take. Like anything, it’s how it’s done. WALTER/Dragunov falls more into a modern European style for me. I wouldn’t want to see a whole card of it, but for a main event it was fucking awesome. Danielson/Suzuki was horrendous.

There’s way too much romanticised about puroresu, and people forget the business is basically on its ass there too. A lot of westerners come at it from an otaku point of view and just assume that Japanese wrestling = good.

Remember when Luke Gallows and Albert got really good in Japan because they were in Japan and Japan is awesome? Yeah.
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