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Old 05-12-2023, 08:26 PM   #13881
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I’ll take Punk back just to see the tears. Even if they come from him.
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Old 05-13-2023, 08:33 AM   #13882
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Old 05-13-2023, 09:08 AM   #13883
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Val Venis sells weed in Arizona now.
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Old 05-13-2023, 09:21 AM   #13884
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Does Val Venis still have Hunter Biden child porn on his laptop that he's going to share?
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Old 05-14-2023, 06:01 PM   #13885
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Val Venis is trash.
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Old 05-14-2023, 08:06 PM   #13886
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Old 05-15-2023, 10:18 AM   #13887
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Now book him in a world title feud against Frank’s Trash Man character from Always Sunny.
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Old 05-15-2023, 12:38 PM   #13888
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Wade Keller claiming the new WBD deal contains rebranded Max streaming and carries a value of 5 years, $1.2 billion ($240 million a year)

Dead company, pack it in
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Old 05-15-2023, 12:50 PM   #13889
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I hope the new layout is like HBO Max and not Discovery+
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Old 05-15-2023, 01:32 PM   #13890
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Hypothetically, if I lease a brand new car for $20,000, then I drive it for 4 years, put tons of miles on it, get into a few crashes, then when my lease is up, I can buy the car that has depreciated in value. Now imagine that I would offer to buy that car for $100,000.

That is what Warner Bros Discovery giving AEW a billion dollars would be like.
And then adding an ADDITIONAL $15,000 just for the hell of it
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Old 05-15-2023, 03:58 PM   #13891
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If true, for that deal to include 4 hours of prime time and secure streaming, WBD are getting it at an absolute steal. It’s like the Peacock deal, Raw and SmackDown rolled into one. WWE gets more for Raw currently than AEW will be getting out of this entire deal.
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Old 05-15-2023, 04:11 PM   #13892
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WWE will probably set be getting more than what AEW will be getting out of the totality of their deal per year. AEW will get all the positive dirt sheet write-ups, but the gap between the two companies will probably never have been wider.
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Old 05-15-2023, 05:28 PM   #13893
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Maybe its actually more money, it's all a matter of perspective.
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Old 05-15-2023, 05:41 PM   #13894
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Of course it’s more money. Is it enough money? Joking about AEW’s waste aside…probably enough to cover their expenses. Is it going to come with problems? Absolutely. Is it big in the context of what live entertainment should probably be worth? Nah.
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Old 05-15-2023, 06:24 PM   #13895
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It's only wrestling after all
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Old 05-15-2023, 11:28 PM   #13896
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Wade Keller claiming the new WBD deal contains rebranded Max streaming and carries a value of 5 years, $1.2 billion ($240 million a year)

Dead company, pack it in
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF
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Old 05-16-2023, 04:03 AM   #13897
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Is anyone expecting AEW to be making WWE levels on their TV deals?
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Old 05-16-2023, 04:15 AM   #13898
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It's only wrestling after all
Cool. Let’s not talk about it on a wrestling forum.
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Old 05-16-2023, 04:16 AM   #13899
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Is anyone expecting AEW to be making WWE levels on their TV deals?
No, but $200 million per year is right in line with where you’d expect them to be. It’s not exactly them “pwning” the doubters.
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Old 05-16-2023, 09:18 AM   #13900
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No, but $200 million per year is right in line with where you’d expect them to be.
Thanks for trying to talk about such uninteresting news then
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Old 05-16-2023, 09:55 AM   #13901
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I’d expect such a colossal failure of a venture to get $0.
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No, but $200 million per year is right in line with where you’d expect them to be. It’s not exactly them “pwning” the doubters.
I don’t really know what to do with this.

They got a deal that’s what you’d expect.

I guess the thing here is that some AEW fans that aren’t on this forum are selling it as this big triumph? Or now aren’t able to?

Genuinely don’t know as I’m not on twitter, etc.
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I don’t really know what to do with this.

They got a deal that’s what you’d expect.

I guess the thing here is that some AEW fans that aren’t on this forum are selling it as this big triumph? Or now aren’t able to?

Genuinely don’t know as I’m not on twitter, etc.
You have Vito in here doing a lite version of that. Rogerer gave it a shot too. The product still sucks and put into context, $240 million for 5 hours of television and your backlog of PPVs is pretty piss-poor.
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The ever ethical Bryan Alvarez reported that the Billion dollars is not real, that it was put out there by WWE to make AEW look bad when they end up getting a 3 year $300 million deal.

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"The haters" were reporting that AEW was getting cancelled because of the merger or something. At least those people post on twitter or reddit so they have the hope of a few people responding. I wouldn't like to imagine why you'd go and post all day about a thing you're not invested in to three other people, but it's not like I'm above doing very stupid things myself.
This is a large issue that is problematic to any expectation that the shows will improve. It should not be one way or the other. The word everybody throws around is tribalism, but it is closed mindedness. Just because somebody criticizes something AEW did does not mean they are just lying to make AEW look bad because they are WWE fans, and vice versa. It is this weird pseudo argument that allows anybody to overlook any criticism and go on with a deluded opinion with no desire to hope for a better product.
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Old 05-16-2023, 02:56 PM   #13907
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The ever ethical Bryan Alvarez reported that the Billion dollars is not real, that it was put out there by WWE to make AEW look bad when they end up getting a 3 year $300 million deal.

Mental Gymnastics at it's finest

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That’s pretty bleak. The funny thing is though — I’m pretty sure the Observer crew have floated stories to set a low bar for AEW.
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Ahh yes... don't worry, he's "pretty sure" guys... so scientific and factual...
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Old 05-17-2023, 12:14 AM   #13909
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Who the eff are you. Did the real Noid die in 2016 and you simply replaced him after ditching the body?
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Ahh yes... don't worry, he's "pretty sure" guys... so scientific and factual...
That’s all you’ve been left with? You got a point you want to argue with? Go back into hiding, fake lawyer. Either that or request to suck my balls again. Remember when you used to be my little acolyte?
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Old 05-17-2023, 05:11 AM   #13911
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This is a large issue that is problematic to any expectation that the shows will improve. It should not be one way or the other. The word everybody throws around is tribalism, but it is closed mindedness. Just because somebody criticizes something AEW did does not mean they are just lying to make AEW look bad because they are WWE fans, and vice versa. It is this weird pseudo argument that allows anybody to overlook any criticism and go on with a deluded opinion with no desire to hope for a better product.
I don't need to be here for whatever conversation you're having in your head
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Old 05-17-2023, 05:26 AM   #13912
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I don't need to be here for whatever conversation you're having in your head
There’s a difference between someone have a conversation in their head and someone not contributing to the conversation being had.
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Old 05-17-2023, 06:25 AM   #13913
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There’s a difference between someone have a conversation in their head and someone not contributing to the conversation being had.
It's a word salad projection about... people needing to criticise AEW so that the product gets better? In the middle of a discussion about how much they're getting on their TV deal, apparently an amount that is simultaneously unremarkable and hilarious.
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Old 05-17-2023, 11:14 AM   #13914
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Just because you deleted your post after I replied to it doesn't mean I was conversing with myself
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Old 05-17-2023, 11:14 AM   #13915
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Andrade coming back in interesting. Didn't he punch Sammy just to get fired?
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Old 05-17-2023, 11:18 AM   #13917
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So the press release confirms Andrade El Idolo, Miro, Thunder Rosa, Samoa Joe, and Powerhouse Hobbs will be featured acts on Collision.

Those first three all had varying degrees of issues with management, talent, or both. Add in the obvious inclusion of CM Punk and the unofficial roster split lines are being drawn.
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Old 05-17-2023, 11:21 AM   #13918
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I'm jazzed at Andrade coming back. He might've been a prick backstage but he's a great talent and I think he was getting lost in the shuffle of the roster bloat.

I hope this points to LFI getting more shine. Rush will be jobbing to Jungle Boy on Dynamite this week but hopefully they can find a nice home on Collision.
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Old 05-17-2023, 11:28 AM   #13919
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Just because you deleted your post after I replied to it doesn't mean I was conversing with myself
I did delete my post but just for anyone else reading, I wasn't refering to that, I was referring to your drivel
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Old 05-17-2023, 11:41 AM   #13920
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Was hoping Collision would be a more serious, more traditional product but theres orange cassidy front and center.
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