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Old 03-10-2019, 10:49 PM   #481
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Going to start watching now, should I watch Live or Start from the beginning?
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Old 03-10-2019, 10:59 PM   #483
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I predict the WrestleMania card will be:

Becky vs Charlotte vs Ronda
Dbry vs Kofi
HHH vs Batista
Roman vs Dean
Seth vs Brock
Shane vs Miz
Hardys vs Usos
Lacey vs Asuka
Beth & Nattie vs Nia/Tamina
Sasha/Bayley vs Bella Twins vs Lita/Trish
Nakamura/Rusev vs New Day
Sonya vs Mandy
Cruiserweights
KO vs Ali
AJ vs Orton
IC Title
US Title
RAW Tag Titles

last three will be multi-person matches
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Old 03-10-2019, 11:24 PM   #485
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WWE playing this up as a Shield send-off.

It was as much a send-off as DX disbanding in like 2002. We'll see it plenty - every time ratings drop - in the next fifteen years. Just like the return of McMahon family drama, it's not going anywhere.
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Well I mean..If Ambrose is still leaving hed have to come back..it could happen but itll be a few years
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Hey all! Just got home from fastlane, so I'll do the traditional reporting of certain points.

1. They didn't announce attendance numbers to the live audience, but it was damn near sold out for the seats available. Only the sections behind the stage and the upper deck on the hard camera side were covered, but those seats were never available in the first place.
2. Specific to this show, Miz was incredibly over being from Cleveland and rocking Browns colors. Elias likewise got tons of heat for bashing the Browns, Cavs, Ohio, ect.
3. Discounting the reactions for those two:
Biggest Pops
Shield
Becky
Kofi
Randy Orton
Samoa Joe
Aliester Black

Biggest Heat
Daniel Bryan
Drew McIntyre
Mustafa Ali (they made zero announcement to the live crowd, everybody was still expecting Kofi). Ali turned them around later
The Bar
Andrade for imitating Eddie Guerro

4. Other observations:
The K.O./Bryan/Ali match suffered from no idea about where Kofi was. Ali got heat because of it, not something you want for a babyface. K.O. Was over like 40% of what he would have been if it weren't for showing the crowd when Vince said Kofi was in the match, then no follow up announcement. Crowd shit on the first 10 minutes of the match because of it, when it was a really good match.

Lashley and Corbin got really no reaction. They are dragging Drew down a lot.

Ronda had heat, but once the crowd realized what she did, there was a pretty loud "Thank you Ronda" chant.

Mandy Rose's entrance actually looks amazing without that weird blurry screen effect. I didn't expect that.

Asuka, Rusev, and Nakamura were all more over than they come across on TV after such shitty booking over the last year. Sadly the same can't be said about Bobby Roode. Him and Gable really didn't get a reaction for anything, even the entrance.

AJ got slightly booed for taking out the guy who took out Elias for about 10 seconds, long enough to be funny because of the Elias heat, then got cheered again, which was funny to me.

There was also no announcement about the Rey Andrade preshow match. I just figured It got cut for time, then BAM there was a fatal 4 way US title match, which was a nice surprise.

It was an enjoyable show from top to bottom.

Edit: Forget to mention, Shield music player for a good 10 minutes after the show ended. Kevin Dunn must have not realized it was on repeat lol
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Nice!


Glad you had fun! Thanks for sharing live crowd reactions, I always like hearing about those.
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:16 AM   #490
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Just gonna leave my thoughts here, as I watch.

Don't care about this miz/shane crap. It's all just filler until one of them turns.

Cool dropkick spot from shane

Oh good there we go. Still really dont care about shane facing anyone.

lol at miz's dad looking mildly annoyed at his son getting the shit kicked out of him.


The state of Asuka. Christ.

Fuck, I literally had to put this shit on mute. Graves reaching heel michael cole levels of annoying. Heenan, King, and Ventura were great heel commentators because they were entertaining in support of the heels. There is nothing entertaining about this dog shit.

Mandy looking pretty botchy tonight.

That was kind of a nothing match. Kind of dumb to split these two right when they get womens tag titles.

I like Kofi but dude doesnt feel like a star to me. Great worker, but Big E is the one who should be getting the push, tbh.


Given the physicality and accomplishments of both men in the bar, they should be old school Road Warriors strong. Like, they should be the Brock Lesnar of tag teams. Instead they've been booked like any average team from their inception.

WHY DID THAT TAKE SO LONG

Christ.

Womens tag titles look really cool, tbh

wasn't elias there earliar? think I was getting a beer

Glad elias turned heel even though it was completely random and made no sense. He's way better when he's shitting on the town they're in.

fucking why are you showing shane turning? it was only a few matches ago. I didnt fucking forget. Its not raw. Theres a "watch from beginning" option on the network. No one is tuning in halfway through.

Renee channeling Ted Dibiase with that jacket

lol he's known as the dutch destroyer now? That sounds like a CAW.

Match should be really good given the participants.

Japanese announcer just said Asuka. Fucking racist. Only talking about his own people.

Cool dive feint

Always thought it would be cool to see a triple threat tag match that actually functioned like a triple threat match. Like, one guy from each team in at once. Looks like theyre doing it the usual way here. SIGH

Chaos theory!

That was a cool sequence with the splash onto the german bridge

Jesus fuck that hurricanrana to the outside

Good match.

lol Dawson taking a Kane bump on the glorious ddt

Feel like the shield vs drew and friends has been a raw main event for 10 years

Truth rules. Fuck all the haters

Joe is one of the best promos in the company right now

lol at truth hamming it up in the background

Andrade does that back elbow so fast it always takes me a second to realize what happened. Almost looks like a botch

Nice shot down Zelinas shirt

GREAT ddt

this match is pretty fire, tbh

We're still doing the eddie thing with mysterio? For real?

Thought for sure the urunage was gonna finish it

ahahahaha truth doing the cena comeback

Match was fucking great. On all cyliders right from the starting bell.

Tamina has been there for like 10 years and still has been nothing but forgettable

Really hoping for bff's vs sky pirates at mania, but I got a feeling its gonna be the iconics

Cool spot with Bailey dodging by the post

lol "what power by Nia" as she drops sasha

nice finish

lol was that a peoples legdrop?

Wonder if this is just to get heat for the fatties, or if we may actually be getting a Phoenix return

"who's gonna stop them?" Well they just got beat by two chicks half their size, so anybody I guess?

You had your chance Kofi but you were "stupid".

Owens seems like one of those guys who is completely boring as a face.

lol its just Mustafa Ali. And the crowd goes mild. Thought it might be Zayn. That would have been cool.

Mustafa with Mortal Kombat Annihilation style unnecessary flips.

I really love watching Ali work, but he's the same generic indy character as every generic indy guy out there. He's Roderick Strong with blinking lights.

lol the irony of the crowd jeering a Daniel Bryan match because they want to see someone else. WWE has done a really good job with this Kofi angle.

So weird seeing anyone but Austin use the stunner. Don't think it will ever not feel weird. Wish he would just go back to the pop up powerbomb. What was wrong with that?

lol Bryan's chest is raw

Fuck this crowd, this is a good match

jesus, owens almost decpitated himself on the table with that dive

HOLY SHIT at that finish.

Awesome fucking match. Fucking marks got worked so hard for kofi that they chanted "this is boring" despite how good that was.You know what Cleveland? I've been to your shitty city. YOU"RE boring.

Fucking knackers.

Should have been the main event tbh

Oh ffs the stupid 6-man is the main event? Thats gay.

lol the hold harmless agreement completely breaks this whole storyline. Like' why didn't they just do that from the start?

hahaha great heel stuff from charlotte

"glancing blow" Actually she missed completely

How do you botch a stomp lol

I agree with Graves. That was dumb.

Forget about the match at mania being devalued by shoving charlotte into it, the whole angle has been a fucking mess because of this shit.

Think I'll just read the results for the main event, like I do for raw. Because thats what this is. A Raw main event.

After Elias, that is.

This Lacey Evans thing wore out its welcome weeks ago. Another case of WWE running something into the ground ad nauseum

Oh cool RKO on Elias for some reason

K, gonna read the results.

Yep Shield beats the bad guys. Nothing else really happens.

Okay show. Some very entertaining matches, but they were surrounded by boring shit.
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I predict the WrestleMania card will be:

Becky vs Charlotte vs Ronda
Dbry vs Kofi
HHH vs Batista
Roman vs Dean
Seth vs Brock
Shane vs Miz
Hardys vs Usos
Lacey vs Asuka
Beth & Nattie vs Nia/Tamina
Sasha/Bayley vs Bella Twins vs Lita/Trish
Nakamura/Rusev vs New Day
Sonya vs Mandy
Cruiserweights
KO vs Ali
AJ vs Orton
IC Title
US Title
RAW Tag Titles

last three will be multi-person matches
US title almost has to be Cena vs Joe.
IC title..uhh..Balor vs Mcintyre?
Raw Tag Titles ..no idea. I feel like they led towards Heavy Machinery vs Reivival but thats preshow/who gives a fuck at best.
Id rather see Andrade vs Rey than KO vs Ali, plus they didnt bring Rey back for nothing at WM. KO probably relegated to the Andre Battle Royal.
Dont think Roman vs Dean happens, but Reigns needs an opponent. Corbin and Lashley would be open. I honestly think they might try to turn strowman heel again maybe.
No way theres 2 womens tag matches PLUS 2 womens title matches. They obviously started the Beth/Nattie angle but I think it just ends up as a fatal 4 way tag match.

Official
Raw Women's Title Triple Threat (Becky/Charlotte/Ronda)
Universal Title (brock vs Seth)
HHH vs Batista
Cruiser Title (Buddy Murphy vs Tourney winner..destined for preshow)

Heavilly Hinted Towards
AJ vs Orton
Shane vs Miz
Some Womens Tag Title Match with Beth/Nattie, probably 4 way with Tamina/Nia and a SD Womens Team)

No idea
WWE Championship (Bryan vs ??)
US Title (Joe vs ???)
Raw Tag Titles (Revival vs ??)
IC Title (Balor vs ??)
SD Women's Title (Asuka vs ??)
SD Tag (Usos vs ??)

thats 13 matches and nothing for Roman, Dean, Strowman, Mcintyre, Lashley, Rey,Cena? Taker, Kurt Angle!?! New Day, Rusev, Nakamura, KO plus all the women
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I don't get why people think we're getting Kofi vs Bryan. I feel like we're more likely to get Kofi vs Big E or Kofi winning the Andre.
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Yeah, I’m not super-sure the Kofi thing is happening. It’s like they want him to be over, but want him in his station. It really wouldn’t surprise me if there’s some thing with The New Day against a heel faction — whether that’s The Bar, Rusev & Nakamura in a handicap or with New Day getting a partner, or Lashley, Corbin & Drew.
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Joe vs. Cena and Orton vs. Styles feel like safe bets. Asuka vs. Lacey Evans is just a thing that I can see them doing. I do think we’ll get The Hardys vs. The Usos too. I don’t think Bryan is done with Owens. Raw’s side is harder to call and will probably be more obvious after Raw. I can see Roman Reigns and Kurt Angle teaming up to face Drew and Corbin. Balor defends the IC Title in a Ladder Match that involves Elias, Lashley, Ziggler, Ambrose, Wyatt and Zayn or something. Fuck’s me.
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I am already dreading the two battle royals that we will have to endure.
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So many guys that have to "fit on the card" too much pressure, gonna ruin the show and undoubtedly disappoint many.
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They have so many people on the roster, there's no way the show has less than 16-18 matches this year.

I am not sure they will do the battle royals this year either.
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DBry vs Kofi seems like a given to me at WM.
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I thought last year's show was fantastic until about post Ronda/Kurt vs HHH/Steph. Up until that point the show was headed into a 'one of the best ever' territory.

Having WM go on for like 8 hrs, as much as I love pro-wrestling, it's just too much. It absolutely kills the crowd by the end of the show.
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Seriously the biggest show of the year shouldn't be a war of attrition
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:39 AM   #501
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I love the format of TakeOvers. Less matches, higher quality. If it is so important to have (almost) everyone on that Mania card, I am not against the idea of spreading it over to two nights. You can either have the WWE Championship or Universal Championship match main event on Saturday and the RAW Women's Championship match main event on Sunday.
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I get the thought of "look at all this talent we have," but there really should be a cutoff of some kind for how many people get to be on the big shows. It should be a showcase of the best they have, not everyone who appeared on TV in March.
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:03 PM   #503
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Yeah, exactly that.
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:30 PM   #504
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I wonder if they'll recreate WM9 with Brock/Seth at WrestleMania

Brock beats Seth and then Roman comes out to 'console his friend' and Mr Fuji, er, Paul Heyman, challenges Roman to a match and then RR wins.
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:32 PM   #505
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I wonder if they'll recreate WM9 with Brock/Seth at WrestleMania

Brock beats Seth and then Roman comes out to 'console his friend' and Mr Fuji, er, Paul Heyman, challenges Roman to a match and then RR wins.
It really feels right. I mean who really cares about Seth and Brock? This would be the perfect MITB cash in if Roman had that. It really should be a three way to close out the previous story at WM where Seth stole the belt from Brock and Roman. What a great match that was. I guess it would be lame for WWE to have two triplet threat main events but it does feel right to me.
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:38 PM   #506
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Seth vs Brock is the most glacial Brock match at WM ever in terms of heat.
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I wonder if they'll recreate WM9 with Brock/Seth at WrestleMania

Brock beats Seth and then Roman comes out to 'console his friend' and Mr Fuji, er, Paul Heyman, challenges Roman to a match and then RR wins.
Would be a sure fire way to get crowds back to booing Reigns.
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They’ve done that on purpose to help the women. It’s also why Asuka was iced. If you can’t make something hot, make the things it touches cold.
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WWE has no respect for its viewers and know puppets will watch anyway. They can shoot themselves in the foot to win a hopping race even though their fans are there for the sprint.
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Got to the Women’s Tag Title match, show feels like it’s been going on forever, not even 2 hours in with over 1 hour 40 to go. Fuck.
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First half of the show was pretty weak, yeah. It picks up a bit after the womens tag title match.

Then drops off again after the WWE title match.
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I wouldn’t know. The Women’s Tag match was breaking point and I reached for the fast forward button. Skipped that, a big chunk of the WWE Title match, most of Charlotte/Becky, and all but the end of the main event.

Couldn’t do it. Not with Raw and SmackDown to follow.
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The fatigue is wearing everyone thin.
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