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Old 06-13-2022, 09:31 AM   #1
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:47 PM   #2
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I am totes mcgotes down my borther. Signed up for alpha/beta testing for it a couple days ago. Fingers crossed.

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Old 06-13-2022, 10:10 PM   #3
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Think by the time you manage that, Diablo 16 will be out.
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Old 06-13-2022, 10:34 PM   #4
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I'm hoping (but doubtful) about this footage being how the footage looks - AS OPPOSED TO this being footage of a super cropped and zoomed screen, with minuscule font size HUD and no ability to change anything because it is assumed everyone will be playing this on a PC with their face a foot a way from a monitor even though it is also on console and folks will be sitting across a room from a TV on a sofa.
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I remember I used to play the hayell out of the original Diablo.... good times.... didn't care for Diablo II when it came out though....
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Old 06-16-2022, 11:53 AM   #7
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Old 06-15-2023, 10:57 AM   #9
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Yup. I have a lvl 51 Rogue in Nightmare and started a Necro, who is at 23 I think?


Going to have to do some grinding for my Rogue. He hits like a truck but is made of paper. I'm using the stabby rogue because bows typically don't interest me.


Necro is really strong. Unsure why there's people bitching about it, but they are probably the sweaty lvl 100's whining about "endgame" a week after release.


Endgame will need more to it, for sure. Right now, it does feel lacking. I don't mean the "meta" either, I'm not THAT far. However, it is just the same content with harder mobs, typical for Diablo. There just..... isn't much right now. As history has gone with this franchise, whenever they do release the expansion (probably a year from launch or so), TONS of stuff will be overhauled and added.



The campaign is a great way to propel you through the map and gives the player "direction".
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I'm doing it Wildlands and Division style trying to complete the first region before moving on. Doing a lot of side quests, dungeons, 2 strongholds of the three, ain't touch the campaign since finishing the prologue. Been playing about a week now and I'm at mid 30s with my electric sorcerer.

The combination of missing Marvel Ultimate Alliance and being impressed by the sheer scale and detail got me stuck on the game.
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Old 06-16-2023, 08:55 AM   #11
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Eh, as far as renown goes, you can do it "region style". However, the nature of the game has you all over the map, in random places, doing random activities based on where things rotate hourly.


If you wish to be efficient, get the story progressed to the point where you get a mount, then things are easier to do in that manner.


Or don't, it's Diablo IV. I've not searched out the Lilith statues or anything like that.... that shit seems tedious.


Lightning sorceress is the absolute best for leveling. I managed to get mine to 14 last night. Necro is rocking 27 I think?


They've done amazing things with this game. If you enjoy it now, it's going to be 100x better in the future. The game will dynamically change with the expansion, whenever that may be.


Glad to have you on board. 3 day weekend coming up for me, I'll throw out invites if I get a decent amount of time to play man. Co-op is definitely fun.
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lol if you dont get the lilith statues and farm the renown to get the region unlocks first thing you are doing it wrong. Makes life so much easier for every alt you roll.
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69 Necro btw. I thought I was strong too drave.

I was wrong. Heading into T4 and I to rework everything because my minions, even boosted to hell via paragon boards, are absolute trash now. The only function they serve is to be a distraction now. Running some of the harder content with others and I have sorcs, druids and barbs running around me eviscerating everything. It's lame. They need to fix minions build bad.
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Oh and Unique items are absolute trash. They are below rares and legendaries automatically simply because they have set stats and you can't enchant them at all. Almost all of their powers are useless too. There are a small handful of them that people are going to want probably, like Deaths Visage for Necros, but most of them are going to end up instant trash when these should be the items that feel the most special and powerful.

Terrible itemization. It's the one area where this game took a significant step backwards from the previous.
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Old 06-16-2023, 11:04 AM   #15
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lol if you dont get the lilith statues and farm the renown to get the region unlocks first thing you are doing it wrong. Makes life so much easier for every alt you roll.



Eh, it isn't difficult at T1 or T2 - just another "time sink" for me. I'd rather just level up a bit, then make the rounds faster with my mount. Very well aware of how shit changes through tiers.


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69 Necro btw. I thought I was strong too drave.

I was wrong. Heading into T4 and I to rework everything because my minions, even boosted to hell via paragon boards, are absolute trash now. The only function they serve is to be a distraction now. Running some of the harder content with others and I have sorcs, druids and barbs running around me eviscerating everything. It's lame. They need to fix minions build bad.

100p Necro minions are broken.


After getting to Nightmare with my Rogue, I understand that shit changes drastically. Within the first 30 minutes of T3, I was entirely re-equipped. Think RNGesus was smiling upon me, as I had a few Sacred Uniques drop that quickly too. Gonna have to rebuild or hope for the same luck..... as I just get 1-2 shotted by nearly everything. I know the same will happen with all characters.


Reluctant to start a Barb right now, a few aspects are dumb. Apparently Druid loot tables are also wank and dropping more barb stuff? I dunno. I just play the game, largely ignoring what "streamers" or "level 100's" are already whining about. Playing a Fire sorc, even though it isn't "the best" - it's just fun




This shit will be tuned so many times in the next 90 days, I'm not going to dedicate to one character or playstyle right now.
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Old 06-16-2023, 11:07 AM   #16
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Oh and Unique items are absolute trash. They are below rares and legendaries automatically simply because they have set stats and you can't enchant them at all. Almost all of their powers are useless too. There are a small handful of them that people are going to want probably, like Deaths Visage for Necros, but most of them are going to end up instant trash when these should be the items that feel the most special and powerful.

Terrible itemization. It's the one area where this game took a significant step backwards from the previous.



I think the sacred unique gauntlets I have synergize with basic and core skills? Something like, each basic attack enhances the damage of the next core attack by 30% or something. Memory is terrible.


I'm okay with them not raining legendaries or uniques like they did in D3. I also don't believe that drop rates should be as abysmal as they were in D2. Make the items make sense, as you stated.


I've not had enough time to dive in like that, so I'm just enjoying the casual leveling of whatever class I feel like playing that day.
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That proc from those guantlets can show up as an aspect as well though. It's not a unique to that item even though its a "unique". Which is weird how some of them are like that. But given that it's an aspect it makes the unique useless. A rare with it added or a legendary with the proc is better at default because you can roll one of the stats off for something better for you.
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Gonna read a bit. Aspects you get from Dungeons are permanent and can be used repeatedly, yes?


Ones extracted go away after one use?


Those gauntlets were (and are) badass for my rogue right now. They were like.... +100 on god damn near everything I had equipped before. Granted, this was within 30 mins of beating T2 Pinnacle.


Speaking of that, I thought "man, I'm pretty good at Diablo games, bet I can do it at 44" when I first unlocked it.


Yeah no...... got smacked sideways SO many times. I came to accept the fact after I was barely even moving the boss's health AT ALL.


I've a ton yet to learn about "end game" stuff. Not even close to getting there, really.
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You stuggled because of the level penalty. After 3 or 4 levels above you it gets bonkers. If you look at the area level and its red, you gonna die boy. Same thing happened to me in the T3 pinnacle trying to do it before 67. Way too much for my build to overcome.

Also yeah I have some gear that is way underpowered too but the stats it rolled are so damn near perfect I cant get rid of it until I get something that rolls at least 3 of the 4 stats it has.

The aspects from the codex can be used as much as you want with the caveat that they are ALL the minimum roll. The same aspect pulled off an item can be WAY higher as such. Lets you play around with them but u gotta find an item if you want to get a good version.
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45 now. Almost done with the first region. Still on tier 2.
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I finally got talked into getting this after being relatively lukewarm on it (despite being a huge Diablo 2 fan and enjoying D3 as well).

Game is pretty fun. I am annoyed at how crappy it runs on my laptop which is only like 2-3 years old. Gotta play this shit on medium settings like a pleb
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Got my barb to 45...


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You stuggled because of the level penalty. After 3 or 4 levels above you it gets bonkers. If you look at the area level and its red, you gonna die boy. Same thing happened to me in the T3 pinnacle trying to do it before 67. Way too much for my build to overcome.

Also yeah I have some gear that is way underpowered too but the stats it rolled are so damn near perfect I cant get rid of it until I get something that rolls at least 3 of the 4 stats it has.

The aspects from the codex can be used as much as you want with the caveat that they are ALL the minimum roll. The same aspect pulled off an item can be WAY higher as such. Lets you play around with them but u gotta find an item if you want to get a good version.



Yeah yeah. I was slamming shit 4-5 levels higher all game til that pinnacle. Got put in mah place.


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re: my previous post, seem to have sorted out some of my performance issues. Nvidia DLAA has been a big help

Been playing a bit between a Sorcerer and a Necromancer. Just got my first enchantment on the sorc, makes enemies I kill explode in fireballs, causing delicious screen-clearing chain reactions. Fun times. Reminds me a bit of playing the old Exploding Palm build for Monk in D3.
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They are gonna have to rework the end game. Being able to get BIS loot at 70ish is bad. I am at 81 now and the upgrades I could farm for are so rare and so miniscule that they are hardly worth it. I could solo level 90 world bosses with ease in the event no one else showed up. I can face roll that super elite in the hell tides with the biggest health bar in the game, Kixxarth or whatever it's name is. The abomination in PVP goes down in less than a second. It's whack. I'm basically just grinding for rare cosmetics/mounts and trying to find the cow level now. You can clearly tell WT5 was originally part of the game and that there was supposed to be a 4th tier of items above ancestral and they pulled it back for some reason. They need to implement it soon to give the high level people something to do before they get bored because NM dungeons aren't enough considering they are like the same 10% of dungeons over and over again and will still be that even after they get buffed next patch.
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Also even if you like pushing higher tier NM dungeons, you can tell even they are balanced with another tier of gear in mind. You will get 1 shot from off screen non stop even with BIS gear and max level well before you get close to the high end of NM dungeons tiers. Like sure, you can one shot them too, but when the game devolves into either you or the enemy off screening the other one in every single encounter then clearly the balance is off somewhere.

I have a feeling season 1 will alleviate alot of this because I bet that's when WT5 comes back into play. But I'm starting to feel like they should have started season 1 at launch. I get wanting to iron everything out before starting seasons because of the paid battlepass, but if things are wonky for the first few weeks you can always just extend the 1st season to compensate.

All that said, if there a bunch more uniques and they were more compelling I'd still feel the drive to gring too. But shit. I've got multiples of the ancestral version of almost every unique for my class already. I can count the items I haven't seen on one hand. 10 years into diablo 2 and there were far more items than that that I never found. FAR more. And I was still trying too because of it.
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Betting WT5 comes back and I bet they have a tier of "Ancient" items. And if they don't call WT5 Inferno then they are doing it wrong.
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Sounds like early D3 where you were expected to utilize the real money AH to get any sort of progression. Hellish
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Its not at all like that. There were items to be found in that AH obviously, and thus, in game. There was something to work towards. Here there are no more items to really grind for. There aren't any to buy either. There's just paragon levels and a one in a billion chance of finding an item that might be 0.1% better.
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I can't imagine how lame it is for people playing some of the other classes that can't match the sheer might of the necro as easily. Already capping their gear and in a battle with a giant pack of elites and a random necro like me walks by and fires off 2 right clicks and everything disintegrates. At least I get to feel like a wrecking ball while I look for the 3 relics to drop in the Ked Bardu fountain.
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Oh another example of necro being OP af is that you can make a build that you can literally afk the game with. Use minions, get the extra minion aspects, stack as much thorns on gear as possible, summon minions, stand somewhere where enemies spawn constantly. Everything will get obliterated by the thorns and you'll never have to lift a finger.
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They are gonna have to rework the end game. Being able to get BIS loot at 70ish is bad. I am at 81 now and the upgrades I could farm for are so rare and so miniscule that they are hardly worth it. I could solo level 90 world bosses with ease in the event no one else showed up. I can face roll that super elite in the hell tides with the biggest health bar in the game, Kixxarth or whatever it's name is. The abomination in PVP goes down in less than a second. It's whack. I'm basically just grinding for rare cosmetics/mounts and trying to find the cow level now. You can clearly tell WT5 was originally part of the game and that there was supposed to be a 4th tier of items above ancestral and they pulled it back for some reason. They need to implement it soon to give the high level people something to do before they get bored because NM dungeons aren't enough considering they are like the same 10% of dungeons over and over again and will still be that even after they get buffed next patch.



My highest character is 54, and a Barb. I dunno wtf happened with this rare weapon drop, but it was WAAAAAAY over the ilvl of anything else I had. Suddenly, I 2 shot everything in WT3 (except bosses, obv).


I feel the endgame grind though.... even though I haven't hit WT4. Whispers. Helltides, and MAYBE a World Boss (so far, only 1 encounter for me, due to timing and stuff). There definitely needs to be "more".


Unsure if I need to get a couple better weapons on my rogue, but good god the barb is uber-unga with 2x bunga after that 2H mace drop. It's nothing special either, just really high dmg.


I've gotten all the altars in 2 of the locations, 90% done with a third. It's a fucking slog and I hope they never make players repeat it.
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Yeah I need a 2 hander for my necro. One thing I'm missing. It's actually insane I'm managing to do the damage I am with a wand and a focus, but due to not having a 2 hander with the right rolls it comes at the cost of forfeiting resource generation that I sorely need. I can dish out massive damage but I can't sustain it for long without mobs. Bosses that survive my initial burst lead to me walking around regenerating for about 20 seconds before hitting them in the mouth again. Will be very happy to fix that problem.
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Actually have a 2 hand scythe that would work right now, high ilvl too but I want a sword lol. Scythes are 10% slower attack speed.
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4 day weekend this upcoming weekend. Think I'll muck around with a Necro..... maybe try to improve my Rogue, probably rebuild it altogether maybe.


Why not both. eff it.
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Played last night after changes.


The changes are very apparent and feel gooooooooood. It's not overpowered, but it definitely makes cutting down hordes more digestible. Lack of activities still sucks. I wish they'd add endgame Strongholds, those were a lot of fun. In a way, I guess that's kinda Helltides but without a "story" being told or whatever.


Season 1 will probably have more stuff. I did a Helltide and 2 complete sets of whispers and just..... couldn't anymore
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Fire sucks when you get to the part of the game that "matters" (meaning where ANYTHING can actually drop - lvl 85). Frost Nova will be a "must have" skill right now, for the time being.


Right now, campaign is the beefy part of the game and really keeps things "flowing". Endgame is kinda a bore, or maybe I just need to change characters. Didn't wanna do that though, with Season 1 looming within the next 4 weeks.
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I'm nowhere near endgame in this and kind of bored/meh on the game so far. Surprisingly, the story is the most engaging part to me so far (far cry from Diablo 3 IMO). Maybe it's just 'cause my build sucks or whatever, or I'm just one of those cranky boomers that prefers Diablo 2. Who knows
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