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Old 01-20-2019, 04:59 PM   #41
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Like, if they are used as jobbers, the crowds are just going to get more into them. If they are pushed, crowds are going to chant "FTR!" and people will work out what it means. If they just sit at home, WWE is just trying to silence one of the best teams in the business. It might seriously just be best to cut them, big dog them, let them go to AEW and it result in great matches that don't turn the industry on its head.
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:35 PM   #42
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Shit, I didn't realize the Revival were signed until 2020.

I think them asking for their release immediately after their match still in ring gear was their way of trying to piss WWE off to get them to actually fire them. But since that backfired, they're pretty well screwed for the next year.
yeah you have to do like rich swan to get an early release now, I wonder if wwe will have a spring cleaning this year. swagger left wwe at the right time.
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:58 PM   #43
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Are they actually signed for that long, or is that just the speculation? Either way, I'm sure The Revival know what they have gotten themselves into with this. If they are released, they will be able to go to AEW by the time Double or Nothing happens and possibly steal the show with The Young Bucks. If they aren't released, I think they are counting on it being the start of their build.
Some signings get main roster level contracts right out of the gate, even if they are going to NXT first (Balor, Nakamura, Joe etc.) Basically they are reasonably assured they're going to get called up eventually so they are comped accordingly.

Some talents who come into the company as relative unknowns just get straight up developmental deals. The Revival, Alexa, Strowman, Breeze, and plenty of others. In their cases, their developmental contract gets ripped up when they get called up and replaced with a 3-year main roster contract.

Revival were called up the night after WM 33, which would mean they're locked in until early April 2020.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:22 PM   #44
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Some signings get main roster level contracts right out of the gate, even if they are going to NXT first (Balor, Nakamura, Joe etc.) Basically they are reasonably assured they're going to get called up eventually so they are comped accordingly.

Some talents who come into the company as relative unknowns just get straight up developmental deals. The Revival, Alexa, Strowman, Breeze, and plenty of others. In their cases, their developmental contract gets ripped up when they get called up and replaced with a 3-year main roster contract.

Revival were called up the night after WM 33, which would mean they're locked in until early April 2020.
Are they always 3 year contracts? And while it is reasonable to assume that Dawson & Dash were both brought in at a developmental level, at what point did they really renegotiate to get better deals? I mean, I did the same thing as you've done to get 2020 once too, but do we know that or are we just speculating?
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:38 PM   #45
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Are they always 3 year contracts? And while it is reasonable to assume that Dawson & Dash were both brought in at a developmental level, at what point did they really renegotiate to get better deals? I mean, I did the same thing as you've done to get 2020 once too, but do we know that or are we just speculating?
Big Dave's talked about contract structures in the past and has already confirmed it's April 2020.
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dave also said wwe may tack 2 months on it since they got hurt and missed 2 months.
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Old 01-20-2019, 07:11 PM   #47
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Some signings get main roster level contracts right out of the gate, even if they are going to NXT first (Balor, Nakamura, Joe etc.) Basically they are reasonably assured they're going to get called up eventually so they are comped accordingly.

Some talents who come into the company as relative unknowns just get straight up developmental deals. The Revival, Alexa, Strowman, Breeze, and plenty of others. In their cases, their developmental contract gets ripped up when they get called up and replaced with a 3-year main roster contract.

Revival were called up the night after WM 33, which would mean they're locked in until early April 2020.
Unless Vince drags it out for the time they were injured which was about 5 months for each of them if I remember correctly.

That takes them to September 2020.
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Old 01-20-2019, 07:16 PM   #48
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dave also said wwe may tack 2 months on it since they got hurt and missed 2 months.
I went back and looked, Dash was out 7 weeks with a broken jaw. Then Dawson missed 6 months with an injured bicep.

I wonder if Vince would tack on the extra time to both, or just the time each was injured. Dash locked up until June 2020, and Vince keeps Dawson an extra 4 months until October 2020 lol
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Big Dave's talked about contract structures in the past and has already confirmed it's April 2020.
Oh okay. Well, in that case I think it’s the long-haul strategy. Hope that it makes them look like evil villains keeping you chained down.
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:32 PM   #51
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Oh and since I'm not sure where to put this - seeing a bunch of people on Twitter labeling Mike and Maria as being ungrateful, etc. and honestly it's such a bad take. They owe the company nothing.

If the shoe was on the other foot, the company wouldn't hesitate to fire them in a second. The company pays for rehab and maternity leave for PR and legal purposes. They wouldn't do it otherwise.
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People forget that before Steve Austin was Stone Cold, he was just the Ringmaster, and he was nothing special. Austin even had another partner called Shane Douglas.

Point is, he truly believes his gimmick of being a redneck ass-kicker.

What kind of nonsense is this? Of course they were nothing once upon a time. They worked hard, got really good and became special, going as far as to have some of the best constructed matches of the 2015/2016 period. Do I think that The Young Bucks would put them over themselves? Yes, absolutely. Why wouldn't they?



Reports are now saying that there might be more to Maria and Mike wanting out than Maria let on. A Network special slated to be hosted by the two has been cancelled. That could just be because it was the drizzling. But Brad Shepard, as much as I hate that guy (do yourself a favor and do not listen to his podcast), never reported that Maria was leaving anyway. He retweeted her saying "When people reporting your career know more than you do" or some shit.
He had like one ppv match. The special would be like 15 minutes. Cancelled for lack of footage and it was a bad idea to begin with.
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Oh and since I'm not sure where to put this - seeing a bunch of people on Twitter labeling Mike and Maria as being ungrateful, etc. and honestly it's such a bad take. They owe the company nothing.

If the shoe was on the other foot, the company wouldn't hesitate to fire them in a second. The company pays for rehab and maternity leave for PR and legal purposes. They wouldn't do it otherwise.
The maternity leave is cause Dawn Marie sued them for wrongful termination back in 2004 or so after they canned her for getting pregnaut.
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He had like one ppv match. The special would be like 15 minutes. Cancelled for lack of footage and it was a bad idea to begin with.
They were hosting the special, it wasn’t about them, you goober.
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Maria more valuable to AEW than Mike & Revival combined in my eyes....smart cookie and not too hard on the eyes.....

Revival & Bennett are all great technically in the ring, but undersized and pretty boring in the charisma department. Creative could likely give them more (as they could with every other talent), but it seems like they've just had enough and want a change.
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I think Revival have got a real use. They appeal to that audience and they're going to need heel teams to showcase The Bucks. There's that buzz around them too. Maria is valuable as eye candy. Mike Bennett has never really impressed me as much as he does others.
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