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Old 06-15-2022, 07:25 PM   #81
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I think the "upside-down" will get "rehabbed".... like maybe it was an ok place and Mind-Flayer was pretty chill until Vecna got there and "corrupted" everything....
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Old 06-16-2022, 08:30 AM   #82
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It should have a Spider man :No way home" like ending where the villians get rehabed
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Old 06-16-2022, 08:19 PM   #83
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Why did the mindflayer pump his goo into peoples mouths and not their butts and pussies?
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Old 06-16-2022, 08:20 PM   #84
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:31 AM   #85
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probably a time of peace with the time jump and then the Russians accidentally release the Upside Down creatures into the real world ala Stephen King's Mist.
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:33 AM   #86
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How many years will they jump? It's gotta be atleast 3'ish
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:38 AM   #87
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The Upside Down's crazy timeline could be used to justify a time jump somehow.
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:47 AM   #88
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I think we'll get a D&D inspired boss way more powerful than both The Mind Flayer and Vecna. One or the other would be the SK's Man in Black to the Crimson King
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Really enjoyed it, but aside from the last episode, Vecna has been kinda disappointing.
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:55 AM   #90
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:58 AM   #91
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I could see it as being The Beholder. It's pretty iconic. The Ultima series called it an Elder/Gazer and it was in that pitiful D&D movie.
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Old 06-21-2022, 02:00 PM   #92
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Season 1 is still easily the best season. Followed in a distance second place by 4, then 3, then 50 feet of crap, then 2.
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Old 06-25-2022, 07:55 PM   #94
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Old 07-01-2022, 04:56 PM   #96
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Just finished!
That was amazing. Epic and Emotional. Wait until you see how it ends.


My guesses for the final season now:

SPOILER: show


Vickie and Mike/Nancy's mom will join the main character list.

That Army guy will still be after 11.

We'll finally find out why the upside down looked like Hawkins
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Why the UD is stuck on the day Will got there (my guess is those two things are related)

Based on the ending with the Upside Down starting to transform Hawkins....I can't even imagine the budget for season 5
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Old 07-01-2022, 07:30 PM   #97
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Other guesses for Season 5:

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Perhaps Russia sends Dmitri/Yuri to help out in Hawkins as well

Maybe Victor Creel appears again




Also re-looking a the poster for the season

SPOILER: show
I thought it was 4 sections because it was the 4th season...but now we know it's divided into because 4 murders and 4 gates to let the Upside Down into Hawkins once and for all



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Old 07-02-2022, 02:38 PM   #98
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Meh.

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The only one who bit the dust was a guy that appeared for the first time this season?? If it wasn't for the shape Hawkins is in there would have been zero consequences.

I dunno. There was alot of filler this season. Anything Russia or 11 losing and trying to get her powers back. What was that....2/3 or 3/4 of the season?

Oh, 11 can bring people back from the dead. Great. Glad her powers are constantly evolving and changing like it's being dictated by Eric Cartman. I hate when a show/movie either can't establish its own rules or chooses when to play by them.

God damn that last fight took forever. So much yammering. It was like a DBZ fight with lots of people just standing around with their mouths open for episodes at a time.

This is as cookie cutter as this genre can get. I'll watch the last season even though I'm sure they'll stretch it out as long as they can with a couple of rushed deaths of tertiary characters sprinkled in (Murray, the Russian guys and another red shirt who will take the place of Eddie - don't worry it won't be any of the "kids" so they can create spin offs depending on what test audiences react best to) and it will be about as fulfilling as my last trip to McDonald's.
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Old 07-02-2022, 11:18 PM   #99
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Not sure why Eddie had to die. Looks like they are turning Will gay. Other than that, I enjoyed this season
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I mean, it's been implied way before this season so...
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Hopper mentioned it in season 1 when Joyce reported Will as missing
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Duffer Bros said for s5 their goal is 8 eps and around 10 hours....but they also know the finale will likely be another 2 hour ep because of how much story they want to tell.

They said in interviews they have the story beats worked out but in particular the last 30 minutes of the series they planned out years ago and the writing team starts on the final season in August.
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No he asked if it that bullying was true. It's a bit odd that it seems to be true after all, but Hopper himself didn't mention it out of the blue. He was just being thorough.
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I think Modine's character is done for good

Bringing Eddie back is not out of the question, as he has been framed for the murders/events and they could change the public opinion and his reputation in season 5

Now how would they do that?
Maybe the upside down has special properties we don't know about yet, he could wake up as a zombie but with a conscience, or Eleven could somehow bring him back - she hasn't reached her full potential yet

Imagine Eddie being the key to humanity's survival next season, would be cool tbh
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By the way, Hopper has to be the most Alpha character in the history of TV

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Very interesting and solid theory about Vecna's presence in the series:

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Vecna kidnapped Will in S1 Eps1.
- The assumed Demogorgon is never actually seen on screen other than the physical hints and teases only show a body type that could pass for both Demogorgon and Vecna's gangly figure.
- When Will runs home he locks the door and the lock opens telekinetically. Demogorgon's don't do anything like that again in the series and are otherwise just animals. But Vecna can do that. El does the same spot with the same lock in S2.
- Will's survival in the UD appeared contingent on singing his favorite song that he enjoyed with his brother. This exact practice proves effective against Vecna's psychic attacks.
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Watched that last night and it made me realise I completely misunderstood what happened at the end of S3 with Hopper. I though the explosion had sent him through a gateway to Russia, and they’d use that to get back to Hawkins.
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Very interesting and solid theory about Vecna's presence in the series:

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Vecna kidnapped Will in S1 Eps1.
- The assumed Demogorgon is never actually seen on screen other than the physical hints and teases only show a body type that could pass for both Demogorgon and Vecna's gangly figure.
- When Will runs home he locks the door and the lock opens telekinetically. Demogorgon's don't do anything like that again in the series and are otherwise just animals. But Vecna can do that. El does the same spot with the same lock in S2.
- Will's survival in the UD appeared contingent on singing his favorite song that he enjoyed with his brother. This exact practice proves effective against Vecna's psychic attacks.

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I still have a theory that
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Mike's dad is a Russian sleeper agent on some Telefon shit.

I'm not convinced that he's 100% utterly ineffectual and clueless; its a front. Kinda like that reveal near end of Moral Orel that his dad's "stupid dead-end job" he always comes home muttering about is that he's the fucking town's mayor. He is aware of all the weird shit, but since that isn't his job, he doesn't care. He is doing his job of just being in the background until he gets orders. And given how closely we're hurtling towards the fall of the Berlin Wall, those orders either might not ever come, or some sort of communication will happen near the resolution of the story where some hitherto unexplained plan gets called off.

Every time they show the phone bank with conversation audio montage, we assume it's only clandestine shadowy US government agents pertinent to the story listening in.

Then again, it might be like CLUE where "communism is just a red herring" and he's just a giant dumbass in a world where everyone else is that exists are fairly well written characters (except for Jason, who seemed like he was building up to be a major auxillary "born again" evangelical antagonist only to die unceremoniously at Vecna's victory because of where he happened to be laying). However, it feels way to convenient to simply be written off as a joke character in a world full of psychics, spies, interdimensional monsters, and assassins. I think he's hiding in plain sight.
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Just watched the final two episodes..... good stuff....

So, Vecna created the Mind Flayer? Need to watch the previous season again, but thought Mind Flayer had very different goals/personality....

Hope Max comes back....
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That depends on what exactly is the stuff that makes up the Mindflayer.
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Hopper mentioned it in season 1 when Joyce reported Will as missing
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thought Mind Flayer had very different goals/personality....

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That still feels kinda lazy and "shoehorny", because kids called other kids fags and queers all the time back then; it wasn't built up to be this thing that somehow rivaled the n-word until somewhere in the early 00s. That throwaway line at the beginning of season one shouldn't be the sole signpost to him "actually being gay the whole time" at a time in life where kids even calling other kids "a virgin" was perjorative, even though they all damn well should be and the kids throwning that around don't even really know what they're saying. Of all the threads and intertwining narratives the show has, if Will actually coming out is really the endgame, they could have written it A LOT better.

It's still not as bad as the Young Justice thing. "I'm mad at you for stealing my girlfriend - [time skip] - nevermind, we're lovers now", but it is pretty close.

There's better ways to accomplish representation than just hamfistedly inserting it for representation's sake.
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It’s not just that one mention. Watch more of the video.
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