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Old 02-22-2022, 01:16 AM   #1
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Hype for Wrestlemania 38, Card Updates & Prediction fun
Okay here we are in full force to Mania season again, sure not all of us care and we're not even sure that WWE cares that much! But we've got 5 or 6 weeks before the biggest WWE show of the year and the card is coming together in decent time. Hopefully not too many matches are left til the week before the show! I will keep this post updated with the current card as we go.

Wrestlemania Saturday
  • Raw Women's Championship: Becky Lynch vs Bianca Bel Air
  • Seth Rollins vs TBA
  • The Miz & Logan Paul vs Rey & Dominick Mysterio
  • Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods vs. Sheamus and Ridge Holland
  • Drew McIntyre vs Happy Corbin
  • KO Show w/Steve Austin
  • Smackdown Women's Championship: Charlotte vs Ronda Rousey
  • Smackdown Tag Team Championship: The Uso's vs Nakamura & Boggs

Wrestlemania Sunday
  • Title vs Title - Winner Takes All: Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns
  • Edge vs AJ Styles
  • Pat McAfee vs Austin Theory
  • Sami Zayn vs Johnny Knoxville
  • Women's Tag Team Titles: Carmella & Queen Zelina vs Banks & Naomi vs Ripley & Morgan vs Natalya & Baszler
  • Bobby Lashley vs Omos
  • Raw Tag Team Titles: RK-Bro vs. The Street Profits vs. Alpha Academy

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Old 02-22-2022, 01:30 AM   #2
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I am going to attempt to take the Mania Season ride after a few years on the outs. So far we've got the above matches announced. Edge likely to face AJ styles but not confirmed. Also rumored in the last few days is a Steve Austin return to the ring against Kevin Owens and a long rumored Riddle vs Orton match.

However after Raw we have a curve in that potential outcome as KO & Seth Rollins have formed a team that may end up as tag team champions. Of course there are multiple outcomes here, Seth and KO could win and Orton & Riddle can finally go after each other. Or maybe RKBro regains the titles and defends them at Mania against whomever while Seth and KO have a match against each other.

There is no real cause for anything more than the tag goal as of this time in my opinion. I don't think KO ragging on Texas is really a sign that there is a singles match looming with Austin. I can't even see how Austin could come into Kevin Owen's orbit right now. Perhaps Austin is placed as an enforcer for a tag title match with KO & Rollins vs RKBro, and that is a safe bet for a good match so right now that's my prediction. KO & Rollins defend the belts that they will win next week against RK Bro with Austin involved in the match somehow.

IF Cody is rejoining WWE I really don't see a great match available to him right now. I can name a few off the cuff though. First and foremost but highly unlikely due to recent events is Triple H. That story writes itself pretty well, but unfortunately I don't see it happening because of Triple H's health.

Omos. Yeah I know it's laughable in a way but also I can see if Cody comes into WWE as a babyface this being a very "WWE type of story". Cody returns to WWE only to immediately come face to face (metaphorically) with his BIGGEST CHALLENGE TO DATE. And Cody wins.

New Day. Either Kofi or Big E would be a great opposition to Cody returning on Smackdown with a sense of entitlement. Big E or Kofi are great representatives of "WWE, sticking with WWE through and through, hard work paying off etc). I could see Cody going over Kofi at Mania with Big E in Kofi's corner or maybe even Cody losing to Big E and solidifying himself as a mid-card heel.

Finn Balor. I would love to see Finn win the US Championship from Damien Priest and then to be on the receiving end of Cody's debut and challenge for the US Belt at Mania. Cody with that neck tattoo just reeks of WWE US Championship sooo... also, is WWE pushing Damien Priest? Maybe Cody challenges him, I just haven't seen many people talking Priest up lately and I can't tell if they have grown tired of the Priest experiment or if I'm wrong and he's well and over.

Austin Theory. Not sure I can see anything looming for him as of now for Mania. Perhaps he's chosen by Vince to take out Cody upon his redebut. Seem's like an obvious angle, perhaps too on the nose as WWE may not want to refer to AEW strongly.
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Old 02-22-2022, 04:29 AM   #3
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I trust Vince knows I like my WrestleMania's with a heavy dose of Bad Bunny and Logan Paul, that mixed tag match no one ever asks for, A Mojo return, repetitive Main Events and all my black people bunched in one or two matches so we can get on to the cool white wrestlers.
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Pretty pumped for this year’s Mania. Don’t normally get that way, but a lot of the bad internet takes on modern wrestling have pushed me into their corner, combined with them having the money and resources to potentially do major, major things.

I’m prepared to be disappointed, but that’s wrestling, isn’t it?

You’ve actually got some great stories going on with Brock and Roman and potentially Becky and Bianca (brewing since SummerSlam, with it arguably going back to Becky winning the Raw title in the first place). Brock/Roman really started in 2014 when Brock ended the streak.
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Old 02-22-2022, 06:48 AM   #5
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I'm optimistic that it'll be enjoyable as a standalone show, like most of their PPVs are. The issue is I rarely come out of them feeling a desire to watch the show every week.

Mania will be an exception to this as I feel like the post-Mania Raw and SmackDowns are always "must watch" to see if they can do something fun to grab my attention. IIRC the last 3 years of post-Mania TV weeks have been flat and devoid of any real surprises, although in fairness the last 2 years were in the Performance Center and Thunderdome where it wouldn't have felt like a spectacle anyway.

Hopefully a full, live audience being back will cause some cool stuff to be lined up not just for Mania but after. Seeds are already planted for Cody to return on the post-WM Raw to confront Miz if he's actually coming back.

Anyway, definitely rooting for Mania to be fun because wrestling is better when Mania is fun.
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Old 02-22-2022, 09:05 AM   #7
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Hearing that Edge dropped references to both AJ and Cody in his Mania promo makes me wonder if they're still trying to talk HBK in to a Mania match (presumably against AJ) and so they've got the Edge thing as a fallback.

Actually would be kinda funny if AJ and Cody both answer the challenge, leaving Edge pissed off that he's suddenly in a triple threat again.
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Couldn't care less.
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Old 02-22-2022, 09:16 AM   #9
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I just read on Ringsidenews (obvs a sus website on some things) that WWE is waiting for this tag story with KO & Seth to finish before brining Austin onto TV. So what does that mean? Next week is the triple threat match for the tag titles with Alpha Academy vs RK Bro vs KO & Seth Rollins.

So it would probably make the most sense for RK Bro to pin one of Alpha Academy to retain or for RK Bro to have a team "miscue" that causes Orton to turn on Riddle to setup that one on one match people are talking about.

I had read somewhere early on in the Cody to WWE news that one idea was for Cody to face Seth at Mania. I don't "get it" when it comes to that angle, but I think the match could be excellent.
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I don't get Cody going back at all. He "doesn't fit" with anyone, really. Feel like anything he will do, if he even shows up, will not be remotely interesting.
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What was the Edge reference? I can’t really see Cody being back befor Mania. But anything’s possible, I guess. Austin Theory is the other guy on the Raw side that could be popped in there against Seth Rollins if AJ goes with Edge.
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Is Rollins a face or a heel? Watching Rumble he seemed clearly a face... was that only a vs. Roman Reigns face turn?

Is Austin Theory a face or a heel? For some reason thought he was a heel....
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Cody vs Seth is only because HHH can't go. It'd be him if he didn't have his health issues. Seth is the closest thing to a protege that HHH has wrestling wise though (at least in terms of on screen stories over the years) so he makes sense as the fall back.
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Old 02-22-2022, 11:54 AM   #14
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Is Rollins a face or a heel? Watching Rumble he seemed clearly a face... was that only a vs. Roman Reigns face turn?

Is Austin Theory a face or a heel? For some reason thought he was a heel....
Seth and Theory are both heels from my perspective. People cheer Seth sometimes though because he's one of those cocky shit talking heels who doesn't just go after faces. In a heel vs heel scenario Seth is the one getting the face pops.

Theory def a heel.
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What was the Edge reference? I can’t really see Cody being back befor Mania. But anything’s possible, I guess. Austin Theory is the other guy on the Raw side that could be popped in there against Seth Rollins if AJ goes with Edge.
He referenced "undeniable" which was a Cody gimmick early in AEW. Also Edge grouped "undeniable" with "phenomenal" and "a demon". He was hinting at a match with Cody, AJ or Finn.
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Seth is a much better heel. His outing at Rumble against Reigns was stellar from start to finish. Dressing up in Shield garb, old entrance, taunting throughout the match literally all the way till the end.


That's how you heel without being a chicken shit.
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He referenced "undeniable" which was a Cody gimmick early in AEW. Also Edge grouped "undeniable" with "phenomenal" and "a demon". He was hinting at a match with Cody, AJ or Finn.
I'd guess "Plan A" could be:

HBK vs. Styles
Cody vs. Edge
Balor vs. Priest/someone else in a US title match

But if HBK doesn't want to do it they can revert to
Styles vs. Edge
Cody vs. Balor (maybe Balor wins the US title next week if they immediately want to put a secondary belt on Cody)
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Seth is a much better heel. His outing at Rumble against Reigns was stellar from start to finish. Dressing up in Shield garb, old entrance, taunting throughout the match literally all the way till the end.


That's how you heel without being a chicken shit.
To me all that was being a face... just a cocky flamboyant face which I thought was a nice turn and made for a cool gimmick and an actually interesting face.
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What were his motivations though? He was trying to negatively affect his opponents psyche by drudging up his past. Typically, that is not something an ambivalent person would do. A person who wishes to manipulate another by tugging on the strings of past emotions to get what they want, is more in line with a malevolent person.
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But against a heel so it was a fresh and interesting take on a face. Thought he had just taken his heel character and pivoted it to face and thought that it would be very interesting for him.
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A heel is someone you want to see get their ass kicked. A face is someone that you want to see kick ass. Steve Austin and The Rock were not heels just because they were jerks and irl that sort of person would be obnoxious and the bane of everyone’s existence. They were faces because you wanted to live vicariously through them.
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He referenced "undeniable" which was a Cody gimmick early in AEW. Also Edge grouped "undeniable" with "phenomenal" and "a demon". He was hinting at a match with Cody, AJ or Finn.
Thanks. I would have definitely missed that, lol. Without hearing the actual promo, it makes me think none of those are going to be the opponents. That’s what Edge did when he started his thing with The Miz too. If you drop a few names, it might keep them floating in people’s minds, but making a concrete choice from that position is odd.

Makes me feel good about my prediction of Austin Theory for Edge. A babyface veteran against a young upstart with all the potential in the world, but none of the killer instinct to put it all into practice…yet.

That leaves Styles for Rollins. Who is the greatest performer of this generation? Seth would be the heel, possibly gaining Omos as a bodyguard to mess with Styles.

That leaves Balor to take the dark side he’s tamed against the unbridled dark side of Damian Priest in a US Title match. I did have the idea that Balor could start his own heel Balor Club faction with Omos, Grayson Waller and someone else (I’ve forgotten who else was in there), but maybe they just give that to Rollins?

I was all for HBK returning, but it just seems “too much” for one show. Maybe a special guest ref spot for Drew & Taker vs. Corbin & Moss on the SmackDown side of things? He can then have a moment where he bumps into Styles and something is teased for down the line or whatever.
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But against a heel so it was a fresh and interesting take on a face. Thought he had just taken his heel character and pivoted it to face and thought that it would be very interesting for him.



So anyone that faces a heel is automatically a face?
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No, but he was acting pretty endearing and likeable and was getting a lot of cheers for it.... so that I'd say was a face
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Looking ahead to next year...as always Rock/Roman in LA feels like it would be WWE's dream scenario but that match has been rumored for so long it's gotten to "I'll believe it when I see it" territory.

It's simply an issue of availability. The Rock might want to do the match but he's understandably not about to turn down a $20 million movie if the schedules conflict.

No film studio is gonna allow its leading man to take a few days off to wrestle in the middle of filming. And even if he was in between films at the time, I'm not sure if the film he's working on after Mania would want him doing something physically demanding. Probably would need to be all sorts of legal mumbo jumbo involved. Especially since Rock got fucked up after his last match.
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Makes me feel good about my prediction of Austin Theory for Edge. A babyface veteran against a young upstart with all the potential in the world, but none of the killer instinct to put it all into practice…yet.

That leaves Styles for Rollins. Who is the greatest performer of this generation? Seth would be the heel, possibly gaining Omos as a bodyguard to mess with Styles.

That leaves Balor to take the dark side he’s tamed against the unbridled dark side of Damian Priest in a US Title match. I did have the idea that Balor could start his own heel Balor Club faction with Omos, Grayson Waller and someone else (I’ve forgotten who else was in there), but maybe they just give that to Rollins?

I was all for HBK returning, but it just seems “too much” for one show. Maybe a special guest ref spot for Drew & Taker vs. Corbin & Moss on the SmackDown side of things? He can then have a moment where he bumps into Styles and something is teased for down the line or whatever.
As much as I think AJ/Edge is a "Mania match" I actually think Theory vs Edge does make more sense, and potentially "makes" Theory. Where as Edge vs AJ is kinda "ego based", still AJ & Edge is a great match for Mania or one of the PPV's after.

I like that idea of Seth vs AJ too, I think you still get a "Mania match" with those two and gain potential with Edge and Theory.

I've not read or seen anything that would indicate that Taker or HBK are considering a match at Mania so until that hint comes I'll leave it in the dark. I don't see it right now, and I think even though the WWE roster is tighter than years past, they have a lot of big stars who "need to get on the show". That we haven't even discussed yet.

Balor vs Priest is going to happen on Raw, I can see them doing a rematch vs The Demon at Mania. I'm just not sure if WWE is hot on Priest or not because I haven't been watching. I'm not certain if he's a guy who could get cut from the packed card or if he's a lock for a match.

As you fill in the card fantasy wise it's pretty easy to leave out Cody, Taker, Shawn, Booker and Austin for actual matches on the show. It's not needed. Each night is going to get a celebrity match with Miz & Logan Paul and then Johnny Knoxville (it seems). To draw in that "wouldn't normally watch Mania" audience. I just don't see Taker going back on all of those interviews since retiring. I don't see HBK making the same mistake he made at Crown Jewel, and I don't see any reason that Austin would be interested in wrestling a match again, and I don't really even see a need for a Diva like Trish or Lita or Beth to get involved. The women's matches can be plentiful and well done with what they have.
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There is one opening for Cody and that is Theory with the backing of Vince McMahon. That would be a logical story if they want to label Cody as a traitor of sorts. Vince would use Theory to show him what real talent looks like.
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No, but he was acting pretty endearing and likeable and was getting a lot of cheers for it.... so that I'd say was a face



eh, I'd wager you could have placed nearly anyone in there opposite Reigns and get the crowd to cheer them.
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Alls I'm saying is that from my outsider perspective if it looks like a face, acts like a face, booked like a face, it's a face.
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I had Edge vs Bálor booked in my head but I wouldn’t have had The Demon return to lose to Roman. You would have had Edge do a “blood bath” in the build up and that would have awoken The Demon.
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Looking ahead to next year...as always Rock/Roman in LA feels like it would be WWE's dream scenario but that match has been rumored for so long it's gotten to "I'll believe it when I see it" territory.

It's simply an issue of availability. The Rock might want to do the match but he's understandably not about to turn down a $20 million movie if the schedules conflict.

No film studio is gonna allow its leading man to take a few days off to wrestle in the middle of filming. And even if he was in between films at the time, I'm not sure if the film he's working on after Mania would want him doing something physically demanding. Probably would need to be all sorts of legal mumbo jumbo involved. Especially since Rock got fucked up after his last match.
The XFL is opening in the spring of 2023, I really doubt that The Rock can pull himself away from the first season of XFL and whatever films he may have on deck to do a Mania program. I just don't see it.
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I just read on Ringsidenews (obvs a sus website on some things) that WWE is waiting for this tag story with KO & Seth to finish before brining Austin onto TV. So what does that mean? Next week is the triple threat match for the tag titles with Alpha Academy vs RK Bro vs KO & Seth Rollins.

So it would probably make the most sense for RK Bro to pin one of Alpha Academy to retain or for RK Bro to have a team "miscue" that causes Orton to turn on Riddle to setup that one on one match people are talking about.

I had read somewhere early on in the Cody to WWE news that one idea was for Cody to face Seth at Mania. I don't "get it" when it comes to that angle, but I think the match could be excellent.
Triple Threat is 2 weeks away so we might be waiting a little longer for Austin. Also, RK-Bro aren’t tag champs so they wouldn’t be retaining if one of them pinned Alpha Academy. Really not sure where they go with either of the tag titles. They could continue to ride the momentum of RK-Bro and not do the split, but who do you put them in with that feels big? RK-Bro vs Rollins/Owens feels like a pretty worthy Mania match (and a indictment of the tag division) but KO seems lined up elsewhere. I guess you could do that tag, have Rollins/Owens lose, have Owens start running down Texas, glass shatters, Austin makes his appearance and gives Owens a Stunner, shares a beer with Orton and Riddle.

SmackDown side feels even more difficult to call. Did they do the non-match at EC to try and drag Usos vs Vikings to Mania? Doesn’t feel particularly “heavyweight”, and they’ll likely want to do something with The New Day too, but the combination of New Day/Usos has been done to death, albeit it’s a guaranteed decent match. Maybe a multi-team ladder match? Usos vs. New Day vs. Vikings? Though they’ve missed the 20 year anniversary of TLCII at Mania 17 which would have been a nice call back.

I got to thinking this Ciampa/Ziggler thing could lead to a DIY reunion to take on The Dirty Dogz, if Gargano wanted to continue with WWE but does that feel a bit lightweight for Mania too? And potentially one too many tag team matches?
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Thanks. I would have definitely missed that, lol. Without hearing the actual promo, it makes me think none of those are going to be the opponents. That’s what Edge did when he started his thing with The Miz too. If you drop a few names, it might keep them floating in people’s minds, but making a concrete choice from that position is odd.

Makes me feel good about my prediction of Austin Theory for Edge. A babyface veteran against a young upstart with all the potential in the world, but none of the killer instinct to put it all into practice…yet.

That leaves Styles for Rollins. Who is the greatest performer of this generation? Seth would be the heel, possibly gaining Omos as a bodyguard to mess with Styles.

That leaves Balor to take the dark side he’s tamed against the unbridled dark side of Damian Priest in a US Title match. I did have the idea that Balor could start his own heel Balor Club faction with Omos, Grayson Waller and someone else (I’ve forgotten who else was in there), but maybe they just give that to Rollins?

I was all for HBK returning, but it just seems “too much” for one show. Maybe a special guest ref spot for Drew & Taker vs. Corbin & Moss on the SmackDown side of things? He can then have a moment where he bumps into Styles and something is teased for down the line or whatever.
How about HBK as Guest Ref for that Seth/Styles match? A battle to determine the greatest performer of the generation presided over by the “Greatest Performer of All Time”?
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How about HBK as Guest Ref for that Seth/Styles match? A battle to determine the greatest performer of the generation presided over by the “Greatest Performer of All Time”?
That’s a pretty likely spot. I had him as special ref in Drew/Taker vs. Corbin/Moss. Ends with a Double Tombstone with HBK counting the pin.
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Vince McMahon may be wrestling Pat McAfee at WrestleMania apparently?
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Rumor is Vince McMahon vs Pat McAfee... dot dot dot
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Vince will be on McAfee's show Thursday.
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Vince vs Cody makes a lot more sense than Pat vs Vince... Vince .... maybe he should just wrestle Austin lol.
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McAfee was shit talking Cody on his show earlier this week too. So this think with Vince might all somehow intertwine.
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