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Old 07-18-2020, 08:33 PM   #56321
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I felt uncomfortable saying "Fuck Joey Ryan" because I have no watched the video and have no plans to watch the video, but fuck Joey Ryan.
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Old 07-18-2020, 09:25 PM   #56322
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Did he shave his stache for that video in an effort to not appear completely a sleazeball?
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Old 07-18-2020, 09:52 PM   #56323
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Did he shave his stache for that video in an effort to not appear completely a sleazeball?
Thought the same thing
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:57 AM   #56324
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The men seem to be doing alright.
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:00 AM   #56325
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Did he shave his stache for that video in an effort to not appear completely a sleazeball?
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Thought the same thing
The ol "Let's change the appearance to appear sorry/human" technique.

I mean my honest opinion was he was probably a dude who was good a fucking and got some of his fwb's (minus Candice and 1 or 2 others) to wrestle and do shit to...but jesus.
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Old 07-19-2020, 03:30 AM   #56326
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Yeah, no, I’m not watching an hour-long Joey Ryan video. Guilty.
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Old 07-19-2020, 11:09 AM   #56328
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Not watching current wrestling is such a pain when it comes to posting here. I get so excited when I see a thread I can contribute to lol
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Old 07-19-2020, 12:20 PM   #56329
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:35 PM   #56330
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Apparently someone from NXT recently got a quiet call-up to the main roster.

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Considering she barely did anything of note in NXT, doubt her fortunes are going to change on the main roster.

Like her pairing with Aliyah was arguably the most notable thing she did in NXT and that got abruptly dropped after a while.
Apparently WWE's quiet call up of Vanessa Bourne to the main roster actually happened months ago but it was only discovered very recently which shows how much WWE actually cared about it.

Same for her situation being similar to Riddick Moss in regards to how sudden her promotion was and why it was done.

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Fightful Select has learned that Vanessa Borne has been called up to the main roster, but there's more than meets the eye.

Fightful was told that Borne was actually called up as far back as January or February, which explains why she hasn't appeared on NXT at all since then. However, she's still not made her main roster debut.

Borne has been awaiting her debut, but moved, and hasn't been flown back in regularly since then. Borne's situation was compared to that of Riddick Moss, who had a deal coming up, and then was promoted to the main roster upon re-signing.

Since all this has unfolded, there have been major shifts in WWE, and we aren't sure of her status as of now or where she was to land.

Since running this story, we've been told that there haven't been any firm creative plans along the way for her. Chelsea Green and Dominik Dijakovic were both reportedly called up, but haven't appeared on the main roster yet, either. Dijakovic has since returned to NXT.
Outside of a few rare occasions, WWE's call-up system has been a big mess for years.
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:46 PM   #56331
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According to Bobby Fulton's son, Futlon's health has deteriorated and was rushed to the hospital earlier today.



May or may not be related to his current battle with throat cancer.


Edit: Fulton's son revealed afterwards it was due to his throat cancer returning.

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Old 07-20-2020, 04:04 AM   #56332
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Weird they actually fired Lance Storm. That seems like a bad decision. You don’t want him to go to AEW and be ignored.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:57 PM   #56334
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According to PWI, tonight is Kairi Sane's last day with WWE.

She's leaving for Japan after tonight's tapings which is covering tonight's and the July 27th episodes of RAW.
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Seems WWE might be experiencing another coronavirus outbreak at the PC or some other major thing suddenly popped up since WWE's taping plans for today have been delayed big time.

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PWInsider.com is told the company is deep into re-working their original plans for today's taping. There is a belief among some we have spoken to that the re-writes are due to talents originally written into the show no longer being available to perform but PWInsider.com has been unable to 100% verify that is correct. It is entirely possible the poor reaction to Extreme Rules led to changes in direction. The show received one of the worst post-show poll responses in recent memory here on the site.

WWE is slated to tape tonight's episode as well as next week's episodes of Monday Night Raw and Raw Talk as well as Main Event episodes today.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:11 AM   #56338
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The Boom periods were always because of cultural movements that wrestling could easily take advantage of.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:14 AM   #56339
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I wouldn't say it will never happen again, because you never know where we'll go as a people.

That said it's not going to happen any time soon because have you seen our culture lately?
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Could make a very strong case that there should have been a boom in the mid-2000s and the reason it didn't happen was due to Vince and WWE's stubbornness over adapting to what was causing it.

When Spike TV bought the tv rights to RAW, they used WWE's high profile at the time to help boost the profile of their smaller UFC property under the correct assumption that wrestling fans could become MMA fans as well.

Once that plan started to bear fruit and UFC took off in mainstream popularity, Vince and WWE failed to both recognize and latch onto it since they saw MMA as nothing more than a fad. The failure of doing that ended up leading to a big shift of wrestling fans moving away from wrestling and into MMA with the repercussions of it lasting to this day.

Within wrestling, ROH guessed right that the future of wrestling would shift more towards work rate for popularity but because they never could seriously challenge WWE, only way a new boom would actually happen is if WWE also recognized it. WWE failed to do so because of Vince's stubbornness over adapting to the changing wind in wrestling post-Attitude Era.
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That same argument could be applied to the "Ryder Revolution". Whatever your feelings about him were/are, he was mad over and did it himself at essentially the dawn of social media. He was the right guy in the right place at the right time, and WWE just said "nah".

I will always liken it to an alternate timeline where Austin cut his infamous Austin 3:16 promo, and then in spite of all of the crowd signs and subsequent pops, Vince just wasn't feeling it, and didn't capitalize with the shirts and a push. Instead, he just randomly shows up in backstage segments at catering and does the occasional job on Jakked/Metal/Shotgun.

They were stubborn on getting behind a guy they saw little value in, and then almost insultingly, tried to use what he did to create their own less successful knockoff and back their own social media platform just a tad too late on that party. Basically, they dropped the ball twice there.
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Wrestling could have not gone down the slope it did, and it could have enjoyed little pockets of slightly increased popularity, but it was always going to get real cold after Austin shook Vince's hand. And the decisions they made -- namely to promote Cena so hard -- has allowed Vince to become richer than ever before without anyone that can hold a candle to him.

Vince "won" wrestling. Unless another billionaire comes along or The Rock decides to start his own promotion, you'll need Vince McMahon's empire to make you whatever passes as a star in wrestling.
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That same argument could be applied to the "Ryder Revolution". Whatever your feelings about him were/are, he was mad over and did it himself at essentially the dawn of social media. He was the right guy in the right place at the right time, and WWE just said "nah".

I will always liken it to an alternate timeline where Austin cut his infamous Austin 3:16 promo, and then in spite of all of the crowd signs and subsequent pops, Vince just wasn't feeling it, and didn't capitalize with the shirts and a push. Instead, he just randomly shows up in backstage segments at catering and does the occasional job on Jakked/Metal/Shotgun.

They were stubborn on getting behind a guy they saw little value in, and then almost insultingly, tried to use what he did to create their own less successful knockoff and back their own social media platform just a tad too late on that party. Basically, they dropped the ball twice there.
Yeah, WWE's pettiness over Ryder's rise in popularity via social media was just another instance of their stubbornness to adapt to the changes in wrestling until it was unavoidable.

They'd latch onto social media afterwards but instead of making it feel organic or special like Ryder did, it quickly became just another cog in the WWE machine.

Even moments like Fandango's dance and Bryan's YES! chants becoming sudden crazes outside of wrestling ended up being quickly wasted by WWE.
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Old 07-21-2020, 03:46 AM   #56345
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Zack Ryder was shit though.
Objectively, so was Hogan. Precisely why I added the portion about how any reader may feel about him personally. He wasn't the greatest, and neither was one of the biggest stars in the entire history of the whole goddamn company and arguably the industry.

He didn't have to be Ric Flair or anything. And my Austin comparison isn't 1:1 for talent, just circumstance. You can't deny that Zack Ryder tapped into something far bigger than himself in the exact perfect moment in time, and WWE not only just rode right past it until the iron nearly completely cooled, but then tried to blatantly counterfeit it and nobody bought in.
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I know you’re not saying it’s 1:1, but it’s not even close. Hulk Hogan had charisma for days and was a phenomenal worker. Amazing at selling and emoting. Zack Ryder couldn’t talk, couldn’t work and got over as a meme. When they tried to push him even a little bit, it was awful. Remember that promo he cut on Raw after winning the US Title?

Outside of being carried by Christian, has he even had a great match?
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Fandango, on the other hand, is the biggest missed opportunity in the history of the business.
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Could make a very strong case that there should have been a boom in the mid-2000s and the reason it didn't happen was due to Vince and WWE's stubbornness over adapting to what was causing it.

When Spike TV bought the tv rights to RAW, they used WWE's high profile at the time to help boost the profile of their smaller UFC property under the correct assumption that wrestling fans could become MMA fans as well.

Once that plan started to bear fruit and UFC took off in mainstream popularity, Vince and WWE failed to both recognize and latch onto it since they saw MMA as nothing more than a fad. The failure of doing that ended up leading to a big shift of wrestling fans moving away from wrestling and into MMA with the repercussions of it lasting to this day.

Within wrestling, ROH guessed right that the future of wrestling would shift more towards work rate for popularity but because they never could seriously challenge WWE, only way a new boom would actually happen is if WWE also recognized it. WWE failed to do so because of Vince's stubbornness over adapting to the changing wind in wrestling post-Attitude Era.
Maybe they looked at New Japan and saw how great that worked out for them.
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Apparently WWE actually considered a potential Asuka vs. Natalya match for the RAW Women's Championship at SummerSlam.

Rumor going around the net is WWE's original plan was Asuka vs. Charlotte before that got dropped due to Charlotte needing boob fixing surgery.

Plan B was Asuka vs. Natalya before that also got dropped due to Natty currently doesn't feel comfortable working due to coronavirus related issues.

Plan C at the moment is Asuka vs. Shayna Baszler for the belt.
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I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.
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That was wild.
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I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.
That was during rave music Val Venis during his "business relationship" with Trish
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Rumor going around the net is that both FOX and USA Network have grown upset with WWE's sluggish ratings in recent times and are losing patience with WWE.

Vince's response is rumored to be him not really caring despite others in the company becoming very worried.

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To put it bluntly, the ratings for episodes of Monday Night Raw and Friday Night SmackDown have taken a pretty hard hit during the Coronavirus pandemic. For example, last week’s Raw drew the lowest rating in the show’s history.

When WWE announced that Big Show vs. Randy Orton would be taking place on Raw last night and not at Extreme Rules, it was reported that this was in an attempt to boost viewership for the show.

As such, many people speculated that Vince McMahon would be incredibly unhappy with the falling TV ratings. However, a recent report indicates that, interestingly, that’s not the case.

WrestlingNews.co is reporting that Vince McMahon is not worried by the falling WWE TV ratings, and reportedly neither are the USA Network and FOX. Here’s what the site said on the matter:

“While some people in the people worry that the numbers could continue to drop, Vince McMahon has shrugged off the low numbers. WrestlingNews.co was told that McMahon feels that the numbers will get back over 2 million viewers after SummerSlam because he believes that fans will be back at shows by September.

“A WWE source said, “Vince is doing what he can by putting on PPV matches on Raw and SmackDown but USA and Fox are happy and everyone knows things will get better when we can get some people back at arenas. This is what he thinks right now and he’s not sweating these numbers.”

WWE initially reportedly had plans to have fans back into shows THIS MONTH. However, those plans have obviously been postponed. It will be interesting to see if/how Vince McMahon’s response to the ratings changes if fans are not back into shows by September.
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However, a new report from Ringside News is suggesting that perhaps the USA Network and FOX aren’t overly pleased with the figures WWE is bringing in right now for their weekly shows.

The site is reporting that both the USA Network and FOX have ‘lost patience’ with the company, likely over the falling ratings. They also note that people within WWE are worried about declining ratings.

“While speaking to a source recently it was disclosed to us that WWE is feeling the pressure regarding their sinking ratings. “Sh*t runs downhill,” which makes for a very stressful work environment as some executives are taking frustrations out on anyone that they can under them. There is a lot of eggshell walking right now

“Ringside News has learned “the story that FOX and USA Network are okay with waiting for people to come back into arenas is bullsh*t.” It was previously thought that bringing fans back to arenas will encourage more viewers at home. We were told that they have lost patience with those low numbers.”

Here’s what Ringside News founder Steve Carrier had on say on Twitter about the report:

“We were told that stories about Fox and USA being patient with WWE are bullshit. They are not only really concerned about these ratings, but they are also worried about how the NFL will do more damage”.

It is important to note that Ringside News does say that neither FOX or the USA Network are reportedly considering dropping SmackDown or Raw respecitvely from their networks. They are just losing patience with the company.
Also starting in mid-August, FS1 won't be airing WWE programming on Tuesdays due to MLB. The network's statement to Post Wrestling did not mention if WWE programming would resume after this year's MLB Playoffs ended.
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I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.
I actually, for reasons I can’t explain, think of this moment quite often.
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What exactly is pulling higher ratings for USA Network right now? Fox probably doesn’t have too much doing better ratings for a Friday night.
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I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.

Yeah I have that match on a dvd and it's quite the fall. Even my memory of it from the PPV doesn't quite live up to the actuall footage.

Val is a true hero for taking that splash.
He had to have visions of his own demise.
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