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Old 05-18-2013, 05:03 PM   #3281
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:41 PM   #3282
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arrow finale was good. they may have tried to wrap up too much too quickly in the space of one episode, though. just felt very intense the whole time. i really enjoyed it, but a couple of times i was like 'jesus, are they gonna slow down at any point?'

oh, well, i guess they did - lot of "there's no time for this but let's make out while we're racing to stop a disaster" moments, which irked me a bit. but generally, i must say, it's done a great job of picking up from being okay at the outset to actually being a show that i'm excited to see each week.


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did not expect them to kill tommy. genuinely thought he would survive and do the harry osborn thing of replacing his father as arch-enemy but then they started reconciling and everything and then boom, impaled. i DID think they were going to off detective lance, though, which would have made room for the mum to come back, i guess.


also, can't tell which of thea or roy is supposed to be speedy/arsenal/THE SIDEKICK. like obviously roy is gearing up to be a sidekick guy but (and really it's the only thing in her favour) ollie did call thea "speedy" early on. unless roy just becomes arsenal straight up.


really glad they did not kill diggle.
I rather have the fast pace cramming than a teased resolution that never gets resolved because someone up the food chain decides to axe the show (or anything extraneous like the writers strike happens and derails everything like in shows like Heroes and Life). Plus, it was a nice thrill ride that made up for the couple lull/filler episodes.

Yeah, they did have a few aggrivating "drama" moments throughout the series, such as Thea arguing with Roy about "not having time" after the "redundancy" kicked in, but in the time it took her to argue the point, dramatically kiss, and leave, they BOTH could have saved that bus full of people and all went on their merry. I get they have to have their requisite ammount of CW-ing, but still...


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didn't expect that ether. There was all that angst they were building between he and Ollie, and after conveniently happening by while Laurel and Ollie were screwing in the window, I kind of expected him to somehow get on board with his dad's plan and become Ollie's foil, then he sees exactly the bastard his dad is, rescues Laurel, and OH HEY IMPALED! Fuel for Ollie to be more tortured and Batman-esque... wait a second, did Ollie stab himself through the *heart* to kill Malcom Merlyn?
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:50 PM   #3283
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I should catch up on it. I loved Batwoman in the old continuity, and liked the first few issues of the new series that I read.
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:31 AM   #3285
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Both of these two gone for nothing/crappy reasons. Better days.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:23 AM   #3286
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:30 AM   #3287
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Yeah, I'm sorry, I tried to like new 52 but I just can't. I had gotten so invested in DC before flashpoint, moreso than I've ever been, and then they just took a big smelly dump on it.

This should have been an Elseworlds thing.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:33 PM   #3288
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Just finished re-watching the Christopher Reeve Superman series (not all at once, over the course of several days).

Somehow, I had never seen The Richard Donner Cut of Superman II. Thought for sure I had seen it, but turns out I didn't. I loved the Marlon Brando scenes. I liked that they actually explain how Supes got his powers back too, it always bugged me. "lol" at him using the turn back time gimmick at the end of the movie again, though. Got to wonder why he even bothered fighting Zod, or blowing up his fortress, when he was just going to go back in time and make everything not happen.

Also, they used alternate takes of some of Terrence Stamp's lines that were not as good as in the theatrical version. Particularly this line:


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All in all, I liked a lot of stuff from the Donner Cut, but missed some of the stuff from the Theatrical. They should make an "ultimate cut" combining both in the exact way that would make me happy.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:38 PM   #3289
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Also, I apparently had never seen Superman IV. Or it has been so long that I had zero memory of it. Definitely not as bad as I thought it would be. Better than Superman III.

Sure, there are some gaping plotholes ("lol" at Lacy surviving being taken into space without a space suit), and bad special FX.... but on the whole... it had potential.

Just read that it was cut down from 137 minutes to 90 minutes. Though there is probably zero demand for it, they should release a director's cut.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:13 PM   #3290
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I don't like the turning back time ending for Superman II. Works way better for Superman I.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:16 PM   #3291
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Reading up on it, that is apparently exactly what Donner thought, so he decided to use the ending for Superman I, and was going to make a new ending for Superman II. He did not get around to it, though.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:28 PM   #3292
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:59 PM   #3293
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didn't expect that ether. There was all that angst they were building between he and Ollie, and after conveniently happening by while Laurel and Ollie were screwing in the window, I kind of expected him to somehow get on board with his dad's plan and become Ollie's foil, then he sees exactly the bastard his dad is, rescues Laurel, and OH HEY IMPALED! Fuel for Ollie to be more tortured and Batman-esque... wait a second, did Ollie stab himself through the *heart* to kill Malcom Merlyn?
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I thought he had at first too, but it reminded me of the 4th Die Hard movie where McClane shoots himself through the shoulder/chest (very close to the heart) to kill the dude standing behind him.

Kind of sad to see Tommy die, didn't expect that to happen. I figured the detective would die and Tommy saving Laurel would drive her back to Tommy thus reestablishing them and leaving Ollie alone again.


I really loved the whole episode a lot though. I love the show and just the little touches they use occasionally like trying to crash the Ferris Aircraft plane really make it all the better.
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I find it kind of humorous/sad that the worst thing about Marvel & DC these days is the comics. The games, movies and cartoons and even fan fiction like JL8 there are all generally all pretty good or in many cases great. Whereas the supposed cornerstone of the company is pretty mediocre at best.

The new 52 seems to be panned for the most part, and while it has been a year or two since the last time I tried to read a Marvel book their stuff wasn't a whole lot better. The issue of Iron Man I read seemed more like a freshman level engineering text book than a comic, Captain America was just boring, and the Hulk (with Banner and Hulk getting separated) was probably the best of the three because the concept was at least interesting even if the execution was "meh". Of course they ended up putting them back together so the interest there was fleeting.

I mean the movies and merchandising and such makes loads more money I'm sure, but it seems like you want more stories and such available for future reference to make future movies and animation off of.
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I let go of the actual comic universes long ago. I just keep up with general news. I follow all the other media more.
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Marvel has been pretty great imo. Their big crossovers were missing the mark for me, but AvX was a return to form.
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I thought for sure that Batman would say Diana to play off their JLU history.
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Just finished reading Batman: The Black Mirror, and was about to say "Well maybe this new DC stuff isn't all bad" before I realized the vast majority of it was published before New 52.

So carry on fucking off new dc universe. But on a brighter note, I reccomend The Black Mirror to any of you who haven't read it. Great old school detective heavy dark knight story, by a writer who really gets Dick Grayson as Batman.
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All of Scott Snyder's Batman stuff has been pretty good. Even the New 52 stuff. Black Mirror may have been the best of the bunch, though. Have to read it again.
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Unless I'm mistaken, Batman's continuity was left alone though, unlike most everyone else.

Even then, I feel they took Dick out of the cowl way too early, and subsequently killing off Damian was retarded as well.

It's like no one in comics has any balls anymore. Instead of taking something new and original, that has a lot of potential and sticking with it, such as Bucky as Cap, Rogers in a Nick Fury Role, and The Grayson/Damian team, they back off and go back to what is "safe" and "traditional".

Even though my favorite stories come from other writers, my favorite writer is Grant Morrison. Just cause the guy has the testicular fortitude to let his imagination run wild, and let the status quo be damned. He creates so many new characters on every run he's a part of, unlike the majority of people who just reuse the same old heroes and villains. And when he does use an established character, he reinvents them.
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I have a feeling that left in the old universe, Dick would have left the cowl behind around this point in Morrison's story, with Damian being killed and Batman, and Batman Inc., being considered wanted vigilantes again.
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I like what you like about Grant Morrison as well, but in the case of his Batman stuff... I have not liked the majority of it.... but I have found what other writers had done with the status quo he built to be fantastic.
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Can definitely see why people wouldn't enjoy R.I.P., but I enjoyed it. I had long ago read about a lot of the silver age nonsense that went on in Batman, and seeing used creatively here was a bit of a mark out moment. The Black Glove Organization while unfamiliar, seemed legit scary and formidable. I also loved how Joker was both written and drawn in this as well.

Really enjoyed Grant's work on Batman and Robin. Especially with Frank Quietly on the art. Always feel like something is missing when another artist draws Morrison's work.

Used to hate Quietly, back when I first saw his work on New X-Men. At some point, possibly when reading All Star Superman, something just clicked, and I "got it", gaining a new apprectiation for his art style. It works so well, because his art is kind of surreal and disturbing, and it fit's Grants work so well, since his writing is so very often surreal and disturbing. I even went back and read New X-men and enjoyed it so much I'm going to buy the omnibus.
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