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Old 11-16-2019, 09:38 AM   #53041
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Some guy on youtube called "The Job Guy" created jobber comp videos that are like an hour long. So if you've ever wanted to watch an hour of SD Jones matches, click the link below. I've already spent way too much time watching these.

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Old 11-16-2019, 01:17 PM   #53042
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Old 11-16-2019, 05:41 PM   #53043
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So their top tag team is basically 50/50?
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All they do is 50/50.
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They would never fall into the same traps as WWE.
I’m pessimistic but I’m willing to give them more time for records to start to separate before bemoaning 50/50 booking too much. I don’t like how competitive every... single... match is though. Needs to be more guys just destroying people so that when someone takes them to their limit it actually means something.
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Old 11-16-2019, 06:09 PM   #53044
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Some guy on youtube called "The Job Guy" created jobber comp videos that are like an hour long. So if you've ever wanted to watch an hour of SD Jones matches, click the link below. I've already spent way too much time watching these.

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https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCdIoh...zClAUUg/videos

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2. For some reason I had no idea he was dead and by the sounds of it lived a terribly sad last ten years or so. There's something primally frightening when you see a strong man fall.
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Old 11-16-2019, 06:36 PM   #53045
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I’m pessimistic but I’m willing to give them more time for records to start to separate before bemoaning 50/50 booking too much. I don’t like how competitive every... single... match is though. Needs to be more guys just destroying people so that when someone takes them to their limit it actually means something.
Tag division likely will have the most parity in it just because of its full of good to great teams. Its not like with WWE where they only have a couple good teams and the rest of the division is filled with junk.

Also squashes have sort of become ratings killers in modern times mainly due to WWE poisoning the well with it. The first time AEW did one on Dynamite, it led to a sizable loss in viewers.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:14 PM   #53046
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:50 PM   #53047
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:12 PM   #53048
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Old 11-17-2019, 02:09 AM   #53049
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:57 AM   #53050
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Old 11-17-2019, 04:14 AM   #53051
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Tag division likely will have the most parity in it just because of its full of good to great teams. Its not like with WWE where they only have a couple good teams and the rest of the division is filled with junk.

Also squashes have sort of become ratings killers in modern times mainly due to WWE poisoning the well with it. The first time AEW did one on Dynamite, it led to a sizable loss in viewers.
Talent-wise, WWE actually has better teams. Usos, Revival, New Day, etc.

And squashes might draw better if people cared about any individual team
to begin with. When everyone is competitive with everyone else, the whole draw of “competition” becomes worthless. Even if you’ve gotta lure people in to a surprise squash to start, sometimes there has to be a blowout to establish a hierarchy. If anyone is turning off WWE or just rejecting them completely, it’s not because of a lack of competitive matches. It’s because of a lack of stars. Build some fucking stars.
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:08 PM   #53052
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:44 PM   #53053
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Talent-wise, WWE actually has better teams. Usos, Revival, New Day, etc.

And squashes might draw better if people cared about any individual team
to begin with. When everyone is competitive with everyone else, the whole draw of “competition” becomes worthless. Even if you’ve gotta lure people in to a surprise squash to start, sometimes there has to be a blowout to establish a hierarchy. If anyone is turning off WWE or just rejecting them completely, it’s not because of a lack of competitive matches. It’s because of a lack of stars. Build some fucking stars.
AEW has already established that Michael Nakazawa, Peter Avalon, Brandon Cutler and so far QT Marshall are jobbers. I don't remember the hybrid 2 winning any matches, either. So, it's getting there. They've been on tv a month or so. I'm willing to give them time to see them establish the hierarchy and keep slipping in jobber matches, like the one with Moxley and Nakazawa the other night.
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:38 PM   #53054
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They should have waited longer for both tag and women's championships. Jericho saying he is Le Champion would be stronger. Also, they don't have shit for tag teams or women yet.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:06 PM   #53055
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Their tag teams are fine. I agree the women's division isn't great. But that have some girls they're building up. It's still really early. I'm not gonna shit on them for building things up.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:11 PM   #53056
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Lolllllll “don’t have shit” for the tag division. That’s a good one. I needed a nice laugh.

Women’s division does leave a lot to be desired thus far. They’re kinda falling into a habit of just have one token women’s match a week rather than placing a whole lot of importance on it.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:36 PM   #53057
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Their tag teams are fine. I agree the women's division isn't great. But that have some girls they're building up. It's still really early. I'm not gonna shit on them for building things up.
Yeah their women's division has been AEW's weakest link but it should slowly get better once they get more time under their belt to build things.

Supposedly it was mentioned during Starrcast that they were being hamstrung by visa-related and dates issues with their international talent and until very recently it was starting to get resolved. Same with them still signing new women talent to beef up the division.
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:16 PM   #53058
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Women's division should always be the weakest link though. Way too much women's wrestling in WWE at the moment.
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:39 PM   #53060
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:42 PM   #53061
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They should have waited longer for both tag and women's championships. Jericho saying he is Le Champion would be stronger. Also, they don't have shit for tag teams or women yet.
LAX, Bucks, Lucha Bros, SCU and to some extent Private Party say otherwise for Tag Teams at least.

The Women's division is a joke
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:54 PM   #53062
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Women's division should always be the weakest link though. Way too much women's wrestling in WWE at the moment.
Nah. If you build and focus properly, no reason at all why women's wrestling can't be as great as men's singles and men's tag wrestling especially in WWE.

Just takes a lot of time due to the historical disadvantages women have had in the US in wrestling. Only started to really turn around in recent years and not solely because of WWE.
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Nah. If you build and focus properly, no reason at all why women's wrestling can't be as great as men's singles and men's tag wrestling especially in WWE.

Just takes a lot of time due to the historical disadvantages women have had in the US in wrestling. Only started to really turn around in recent years and not solely because of WWE.
I'm not saying that there can't be great womens wrestling. Just that there is too much of it in WWE right now.

The disadvantage is just being a woman therefore being less athletically coordinated. WWE has put them on TV more is all they've done. With the exception of Becky, Charlotte, and Sasha their women's matches are still piss break segments that are long enough for you to take a shit.
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LAX, Bucks, Lucha Bros, SCU and to some extent Private Party say otherwise for Tag Teams at least.

The Women's division is a joke
Not the real LAX. I don't think people outside the wrestling bubble care about any of them.

Private Party could be something though.
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Haven't watched any WWE in many months..... But I'd watch if they did an all women's show not on the network
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Yeah their women's division has been AEW's weakest link but it should slowly get better once they get more time under their belt to build things.

Supposedly it was mentioned during Starrcast that they were being hamstrung by visa-related and dates issues with their international talent and until very recently it was starting to get resolved. Same with them still signing new women talent to beef up the division.
I'm a big Shida fan. You know they're going somewhere with the recent Kong build up that's started. It's going to take time because the names they have aren't anywhere near as recognizable as the men's division.

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I'm not saying that there can't be great womens wrestling. Just that there is too much of it in WWE right now.

The disadvantage is just being a woman therefore being less athletically coordinated. WWE has put them on TV more is all they've done. With the exception of Becky, Charlotte, and Sasha their women's matches are still piss break segments that are long enough for you to take a shit.
That's more of a booking problem and Vince being shit when it comes to deciding big star and spotlight material. They have well than enough talent to avoid "piss break" situations but misuse the division just like every other division in the company.

Them getting more time was eventually going to happen due to WWE hiring a ton of women ever since modern NXT started and needing to cater towards female viewers to salvage their struggling ratings.

The historical disadvantage never had anything to do with athletic ability and instead the dated mindset promoters and fans in general had towards women's wrestling till recent times in the US. Also didn't help that women wrestlers till recently also had fewer options available for quality training and work.
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why does the network/tv change things?
Because I don't want to pay for WWE Network, but would watch it if I could see it for free on TV?
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