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Old 11-28-2019, 11:51 PM   #161
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I'm not entirely sure he isn't playing it up to some degree for attention. I'm finding it difficult to understand how someone apparently as fragile as him has made it as far as he has into the public spotlight without suffering a total breakdown or derailing his career with the disappearing act. Especially in wrestling. It's very weird how he is managing to build a career with behavior that would destroy most everyone elses.

People send him harsh tweets and yell things at him all the times. Way worse stuff than Graves said. He never loses his shit over that. But Graves says something that was completely harmless (if Mauro didn't go off the deep end no one would have thought twice about what Graves said) and Mauro breaks down. It makes no sense. It's always someone he seems to have some kind of issue with or doesn't like or whatever that he loses his shit over while turning a blind eye to the same and worse from other people.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but this whole thing has never felt right to me, even during the JBL episode and I'll readily admit JBL was a huge POS there. But it just seems like he picks and chooses who to break down over in order to get himself the most sympathy and make people he doesn't like look bad in the process.
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Old 11-29-2019, 12:18 AM   #162
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yeah I think he does, and he say it is around thanksgiving I can take some time off. if he is put back on air other people are going to use that to get things.
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I still don't see what is bad about what Graves said. I am in the side of Mauro's fans. It's not about what he says, but his passion comes off as genuine.

That said, Graves didn't put down Mauro, Billy him, whatever you want to call it.

He took a veiled passive shot by putting over Nigel and Beth, and then stated their were too many rap references.

Neither time did he come anywhere near crossing a line.
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Old 11-29-2019, 03:17 AM   #164
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It's almost like people are trying to signal something. Like maybe how virtuous they are. I dunno.
Or maybe people just genuinely think Graves is a stupid dickhead for publicly attacking a coworker

... who also goes to outpatient therapy for bipolar disorder 5 hours a day and has a well known history of not reacting well to being publicly attacked by coworkers
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Old 11-29-2019, 03:24 AM   #165
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At what point does Ranallo need to be commited? Seems like the best place for him.
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Old 11-29-2019, 03:31 AM   #166
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Also in 2016, he basically quit SmackDown after JBL publicly attacked him on some WWE Network talk show... and it was later revealed that WWE approved the segment and there is speculation that they told JBL to do it

Also there was a lot of stuff about Vince McMahon not liking Mauro at the time and wanting him to be more like Michael Cole

He only came back to NXT because he wouldn't have to directly deal with Vince McMahon (and JBL)... Now with NXT going live and becoming more important, I have a feeling that Vince is "having issues" with Mauro again and trying to get him to be another Michael Cole again maybe...

I bet Mauro has those same fears, that Vince is trying to oust him or "send him a message" again and he's probably like "fuck this..."
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5 hours a day?!

He definitely shouldn't be working anywhere near a camera.
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:12 AM   #168
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Boy....it's like he has the same fears that anybody on Earth who no shows their job repeatedly has. Boy I bet my boss is gonna be mad, sure hope he doesn't try to punish me for not doing the job he pays me to do.
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5 hours a day?!

He definitely shouldn't be working anywhere near a camera.
Yeah everything Triple A said makes me doubt Mauro even more. The most fragile guy ever working in the most toxic environment ever, surrounded by people who are out to get him and a boss that doesn't like him? And he keeps coming back? Over and over again? Even though he's supposedly the bestest ever at what he does and is in super high demand everywhere in the world and could have his pick of any commentating job in the business? Just doesn't add up.
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He probably needs to take a look at Sean Young's career and decide if fame is worth the mental health repercussions.
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yeah I agree vince and co are assholes, calling wrestlers indy contracters then forcing them to stay with there company for years, but knew what he was getting into he should have stayed in boxing.
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Old 11-29-2019, 11:28 AM   #172
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What honestly pisses me off the most is people saying that "It were just some random words, Mauro is overreacting".

Except for people with certain mental illnesses, overreaction is a natural state of the mind that they can't control in any ordinary way. They need therapy, meds, or both to even hope to function normally. That's why they're mental disabilities, and someone like Corey needed to know that his actions could've had this sort of reaction. With bipolar, you canít control your mood swings. You can hope to see them coming and act in such a way that it creates the least damage for yourself and others, but there can always be triggers to immediately chuck you down that ravine into the valley of suckage.

Mauro already has to dig through enough shitty comments from random keyboard warriors every day, which I can imagine sucks big donkey balls, but then your own coworker jumps in on the train to throw some swipes himself, on an open forum, and well, the bucket runneth over. Doing that to any other coworker is a massively dick move, where in most decent companies you'd get a massive bollocking from HR for creating a hostile work environment. The added stab in the back from a coworker, someone you should be able to trust to treat you decently, that's where the pain comes from.

WWE isn't the kind of company to actually stick up for the right people though, and doing positive things for people with all sorts of disabilities is only an interesting subject when they can get some good PR out of it. Because their actual treatment of their people, whether in ring or backstage is still the same old carny garbage attitude they've always had.

As someone with mental issues myself, I feel so deeply for Mauro, and whilst it's clear he loves the job and most fans love him, I also feel that WWE isn't a healthy environment for him to follow that dream. Heíll always have to deal with petty dickheads like Corey's and JBL's, and nobody deserves that. I doubt WWE will ever wake the fuck up and start changing their toxic mentality to the point where it might be a safe space for anyone to work.
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Old 11-29-2019, 01:02 PM   #173
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Also, Graves complaining about someone being overbearing on commentary is all types of pot meet kettle. He's by far the most overexposed personality on WWE TV and the quality of his commentary has consistently declined since he joined the main roster.
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:38 PM   #174
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According to the Observer Newsletter, many within WWE actually considering Graves to be the real victim or person to rally behind in this whole situation and not Mauro which shows how messed up WWE's work environment actually is.

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Graves never took down the tweet. He never commented on anything actually related to Ranallo again, but did blame me for making up a story, which in this case, was a ridiculous deflection. It was noted to me that logic would have had WWE management trying to reel him in after Ranallo left, but in the strange world of WWE, Graves was considered by many the babyface in the situation, and even the victim.
Also Meltzer implied in a recent Observer Radio episode that some in management approved Graves actions and didn't want him to take down his tweets or apology.
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:32 PM   #176
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I mean, if Graves was really just trying to stir up shit as a heel, then I kinda get it. But really, he seems like an idiot.
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Old 11-30-2019, 01:20 AM   #177
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You can't even use Mauro's initials now because they are the same letters as the term mental retard and people supposedly used his initials as a slur in the 50's.

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Lawler called him “M.R.”
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Please tell me nobody is actually saying that
Lawler was referring to Mauro as M.R. up until a few months or so ago. He was told to stop because that was a slur to mentally retarded people in the 50's and it was bothering Mauro too much.

So yes, you can not use Mauro's initials.

Isn't it funny how everyone that ends up triggering him are other announcers? Like, the only people he has any kind of competition with jobwise? Never seems to be bothered by anyone else. Ever. Weird.
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I think this is less a depression or anxiety issue and more of a "this guy is fucking insane" type deal.

I'm flabbergasted that this was known and people still take his side.

What the fuck is happening?!
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Lawler was referring to Mauro as M.R. up until a few months or so ago. He was told to stop because that was a slur to mentally retarded people in the 50's and it was bothering Mauro too much.

So yes, you can not use Mauro's initials.

Isn't it funny how everyone that ends up triggering him are other announcers? Like, the only people he has any kind of competition with jobwise? Never seems to be bothered by anyone else. Ever. Weird.
Lawler used a similar style insult towards Byron Saxton in the past.

Even as recently as earlier this month, Lawler threw an unprovoked insult at Humberto Carriillo when he called Carrillo a "jumping bean." Carrillo is Mexican.
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I think this is less a depression or anxiety issue and more of a "this guy is fucking insane" type deal.

I'm flabbergasted that this was known and people still take his side.

What the fuck is happening?!
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He has been doing his job perfectly fine, but has an issue with his boss and coworkers fucking with him... He's not really being that irrational
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No that level of paranoia is indicative of a brain run wildly out of control.

Nobody should try and placate a mad man over his irrational assumptions.
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No that level of paranoia is indicative of a brain run wildly out of control.

Nobody should try and placate a mad man over his irrational assumptions.
It's not even slightly out of the realm of possibility that they're going after him, internally. I mean, you're aware of who we're dealing with, right?
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Do they ID him at the door? If they do does he run home crying about Intellectual Disability?

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This is absolutely absurd and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Some of you are acting Mauro is such an unstable tinderbox that he can’t function properly, but as far as I know, he’s had two meltdowns for the exact same thing where a coworker was being an unprofessional dickhead and trying to run him down in public. Maybe let’s try not doing that one particular thing and see how it goes from there.
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Some of you are acting Mauro is such an unstable tinderbox that he canít function properly, but as far as I know, heís had two meltdowns for the exact same thing where a coworker was being an unprofessional dickhead and trying to run him down in public. Maybe letís try not doing that one particular thing and see how it goes from there.
WWE knows no other way. Bullying culture. It makes it even weirder that they insist on employing the guy if the end-game is always this.

And Seanny, come on man. Do you really think it's beyond the WWE to do this shit? Dawg, you've been listening to Prichard's podcast -- even with Bruce whitewashing everything, Vince still seems like a petty, spiteful psychopath.
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I mean yeah. But it doesn't make it right. And why do they keep pursuing him as a commentator if he's not fit for the company?
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He's not fit for any company if he can't handle his own initials.
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Rename this thread Hamburger Hill please, because it's a fine one to die on.
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He's not fit for any company if he can't handle his own initials.
I don't think he's fit for the company, but they keep wanting to bring him in. I just don't understand.
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He's not fit for any company if he can't handle his own initials.
The context of this initial story, which was conveniently left out even though it seems real important, is that Vince and King were calling him M.R. because it stood for mental retardation. It wasnít some catchy nickname or a tribute to J.R., it was making fun of his initials being the same as mental retardation and him having mental issues. You know, bullying. Like children.
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I mean yeah. But it doesn't make it right. And why do they keep pursuing him as a commentator if he's not fit for the company?
yeah I blame vince or trips they should have talked to maro and release him like what they did with eric bischoff.
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