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Old 06-14-2021, 03:06 AM   #4921
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Anyone know why the Cody/Penta feud was dropped? Did I miss some injury news or something?

Just saw a tweet reference it and can't remember if it was addressed on TV after that promo between the two
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Old 06-14-2021, 05:06 PM   #4922
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Massive insecurity in this promotion. Dustin asking for fan opinions then blasting them; Kenny Omega attacking talent WITHIN HIS OWN PROMOTION for DARING to suggest that someone else is better than him. How about you draw some money and learn how to throw a proper punch, you overrated cunt?

No one worth two shits has signed with them because they know this is a place where if you’re perceived as a threat, they’ll passive aggressively book you into oblivion. Look at FTR. Think they’re happy they got away from “Evil WWE” to be treated...well, exactly the same?

Time to admit this experiment has been a failure.
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Old 06-14-2021, 05:09 PM   #4923
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Let’s not pretend massive insecurity is an AEW-exclusive trait.

However we can agree that Kenny Omega is a special kind of awful.
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Anyone know why the Cody/Penta feud was dropped? Did I miss some injury news or something?

Just saw a tweet reference it and can't remember if it was addressed on TV after that promo between the two
Because AEW sucks and drops stuff all the time. Just like the Penta/Daniels angle. Joey Janela kidnapping Tully Blanchard. The Nightmare Collective. Adam Page. Matt Hardy’s...whatever the fuck it was he was doing. Cody’s issues with Shaq. Jericho’s issues with Tyson. MJF’s tension with Wardlow. Where the fuck are Luchasaurus and Marko Stunt? Why does QT Marshall suddenly have a wife?

AEW fucking up a story isn’t unusual.
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Old 06-14-2021, 05:21 PM   #4925
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Let’s not pretend massive insecurity is an AEW-exclusive trait.

However we can agree that Kenny Omega is a special kind of awful.
It may not be exclusive to AEW, but it doesn’t make it any more endearing, lol.

Omega has replaced Triple H as my most overrated wrestler of all-time. He’s not very good and seems like a real-life idiot and scumbag.
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Old 06-14-2021, 05:23 PM   #4926
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Because AEW sucks and drops stuff all the time. Just like the Penta/Daniels angle. Joey Janela kidnapping Tully Blanchard. The Nightmare Collective. Adam Page. Matt Hardy’s...whatever the fuck it was he was doing. Cody’s issues with Shaq. Jericho’s issues with Tyson. MJF’s tension with Wardlow. Where the fuck are Luchasaurus and Marko Stunt? Why does QT Marshall suddenly have a wife?

AEW fucking up a story isn’t unusual.
I’m not one to be like “You seem to know a lot about this thing you hate so much. GOTCHA!” I get it usually. Mainly with WWE stuff.

But holy shit, you know entirely too many details about AEW. I follow it mostly just from here and most of this shit did not cross my mind.
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Old 06-14-2021, 05:24 PM   #4927
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It may not be exclusive to AEW, but it doesn’t make it any more endearing, lol.

Omega has replaced Triple H as my most overrated wrestler of all-time. He’s not very good and seems like a real-life idiot and scumbag.
I think it’s a generational thing.

Both issues.
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Old 06-14-2021, 05:27 PM   #4928
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I was going to suggest that, but I guess there have been insecure figures in wrestling forever and a day. How that manifests changes. With Omega it’s passive aggressive, dog-piling social media posturing. If he was 300lbs in 1998, he’d be burying people in production meetings suggesting they can’t draw.
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Old 06-14-2021, 07:59 PM   #4929
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Old 06-14-2021, 08:01 PM   #4930
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Old 06-14-2021, 08:14 PM   #4931
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Old 06-15-2021, 04:49 PM   #4932
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Anyone know why the Cody/Penta feud was dropped? Did I miss some injury news or something?

Just saw a tweet reference it and can't remember if it was addressed on TV after that promo between the two
I think it was just to set-up a reason for them to have a match the next week on Dynamite and not intended to be a long-term storyline.
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Old 06-15-2021, 04:50 PM   #4933
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I believe this week is their last day on Friday before going to Saturday next week and then back to Wednesday the week after for Dynamite.
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:39 PM   #4936
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I’m not one to be like “You seem to know a lot about this thing you hate so much. GOTCHA!” I get it usually. Mainly with WWE stuff.

But holy shit, you know entirely too many details about AEW. I follow it mostly just from here and most of this shit did not cross my mind.
I’m obsessed with wrestling. It was a big part of my formative years. When it sucks, I register it. Plus the AEW fandom you see in places is absolutely gross (to my tastes), so I love bursting the bubble of people who think it’s good by demonstrating how it is not.

There are opinions and it’s fine to personally enjoy AEW, but it is not objectively good, coherent, well-produced television. It has plot holes you could drive a truck through. Stories are stopped and started for no reason at all. That’s just a fact.

I got called a Vince McMahon cocksucker because I dared point out that Triple H was not trying his absolute hardest to run AEW into the ground and pointing out the inconsistencies in Dave Meltzer simultaneously saying that WWE doesn’t promote NXT well to dunk on them while also implying that AEW was beating this giant well-promoted WWE vehicle to bolster AEW’s image. I’ve made it my mission to at least TRY and maintain a logical narrative around this shitshow of a company because that objective coverage just isn’t there.

The schadenfreude of everyone who said “Nuh-uh, AEW actually matters” needing to either go into hiding or begrudgingly admit I was right as this shit hits TNA levels of low in record time is delicious, and I’m not ashamed of letting people know I enjoy it. Hey, BigCrippyZ — tell me again how this promotion is important. Fucking clown. The big question is whether or not it even gets a book when it closes down and is bought by AXS or something.
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AEW have apparently put themselves in the red with their video game department. Video games are no doubt expensive, but for these games to put the promotion in the red seems to hinge a lot on their success.

Video games have the potential to get AEW a lot of exposure from potential new fans, but that only seems likely if the game is actually good and sells enough to achieve that exposure. With AEW being the niche of the niche, commercially it may just not be viable.
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AEW have apparently put themselves in the red with their video game department. Video games are no doubt expensive, but for these games to put the promotion in the red seems to hinge a lot on their success.

Video games have the potential to get AEW a lot of exposure from potential new fans, but that only seems likely if the game is actually good and sells enough to achieve that exposure. With AEW being the niche of the niche, commercially it may just not be viable.
That was a total spin. "Oh we are in the red because of our video game."

Really its they are in the red becauee of their video games, and buying rights to a bunch of 80's songs, and paying wrestlers WAY too much, and having WAY too many wrestlers under contract, and spending WAY too much on fireworks except for the ONE time they needed to, and getting booted off their network, and losing half their fans, and on and on and on...
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That was a total spin. "Oh we are in the red because of our video game."

Really its they are in the red becauee of their video games, and buying rights to a bunch of 80's songs, and paying wrestlers WAY too much, and having WAY too many wrestlers under contract, and spending WAY too much on fireworks except for the ONE time they needed to, and getting booted off their network, and losing half their fans, and on and on and on...
In the Forbes interview, Tony Khan says “I expect our wrestling division to be profitable by the end of the year,” or something to that effect. Knowing how TK talks, you’d expect him to say “We are profitable.” But in the same interview, there’s a quote from Shad Khan who basically says he is willing to burn money.
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In the Forbes interview, Tony Khan says “I expect our wrestling division to be profitable by the end of the year,” or something to that effect. Knowing how TK talks, you’d expect him to say “We are profitable.” But in the same interview, there’s a quote from Shad Khan who basically says he is willing to burn money.
Yeah cause Shad will write them a new big check, then "hey we are profitable!!!".
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AEW doing big buisness check your sources brother. They got some of the biggest talent out there locked down for years and I'm talking about Paul Wight who was the largest free agent since 1999. Of course they also got some of the strongest names in the buisness and I'm talking about none other than the 2002 winner of the Arnold Classic Mark Henry. And he's there not to fix AEW cause it's not broken but he's been signed specifically to use his in ring excellence and craftsmanship for working a match brother to help out the younger future superstars of AEW to hone their craft and to have much better matches, more like the ones he's had in the past dude.
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That's gonna look fucking awesome, I'm all for that. Might have to try going to it.
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Old 06-16-2021, 11:45 AM   #4944
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Old 06-16-2021, 12:08 PM   #4945
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Arthur Ashe Stadium is cool... seems like it would be sweet as a wrestling venue... like 10 mins from my apt

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Old 06-16-2021, 12:15 PM   #4946
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That article says they're going to Newark the week before on Sept 15 also, interesting... Feel like a lot of people in NY may just choose to go to the NYC show and skip the annoying trip to Newark
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Arthur Ashe capacity is 23,700, but will prob close off a big section for the stage etc
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I’d love if they eschewed a stage/big ramp for this and just had the ring and the entrance at one of the corners. Be kinda like when NJPW runs in Koreauken Hall
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Old 06-16-2021, 12:42 PM   #4949
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Yeah they could easily just put a video board along the baseline wall and have the wrestlers enter from the players tunnel.

Less is more when you have unique setups like this.
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AEW struggling to get 18k in the NYC area being an achievement says a lot about the state of pro-wrestling. Lol, don’t people need to notice your existence for you to be the “coolest wrestling company in the world?”
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Old 06-16-2021, 02:33 PM   #4951
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They are certainly not the coolest, most dorky more like it
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AEW struggling to get 18k in the NYC area being an achievement says a lot about the state of pro-wrestling. Lol, don’t people need to notice your existence for you to be the “coolest wrestling company in the world?”
Tickets aren't on sale yet so they aren't struggling. Yet.
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Old 06-16-2021, 03:07 PM   #4954
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Lmao Noid acting like tickets are already on sale just means he's already set up the goalposts to be moved. They could sell out instantly for their largest gate ever and he'll still poo poo it.
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Lmao Noid acting like tickets are already on sale just means he's already set up the goalposts to be moved. They could sell out instantly for their largest gate ever and he'll still poo poo it.
lol most of his boring gimmick is moving goalposts
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Lmao Noid acting like tickets are already on sale just means he's already set up the goalposts to be moved. They could sell out instantly for their largest gate ever and he'll still poo poo it.
I’m not saying that tickets are on sale yet, you illiterate fucks. It’s a forecast, and one made facetiously. They’ll probably sell it out. One way or another, the Khans are going to get people into that building, even if they have to comp an obscene amount of tickets or pay to get people in.

Pockets of fans on the internet are actually celebrating this, like pulling 18k from one of the world’s largest metropolitan areas for one show is some sort of height for wrestling. And in modern times it sadly is.

My honest prediction is that the show will probably come off well. They’re in Rochester the next week, so they’ll exploit Brodie Lee’s death for that. They’ll blow all the cache they get from doing a “giant” show by leaving a bad taste in fans’ mouths and doing their silly, self-indulgent stuff. Dave Meltzer will say they are doing amazing as the ratings come in at 750k or whatever and they panic and hot-shot more stuff.

The big spanner in the works will be if the bottom falls out before then. They have been getting smashed on Friday nights. They will get smashed on Saturdays. People are out of the habit of watching. That does more damage than a lot of AEWtomatons give credence to. So they will be hot-shotting more stuff for the return to Wednesdays. It will largely have audiences feeling underwhelmed, but it will also be diminishing returns each time they do it. It would not shock me if the big Wednesday return only does 750k-850k people. And the realization from the hyper-aware AEW fans is going to do major damage to the new car smell of AEW, which has already dissipated if you ask me. It’s going to keep going lower and lower, and enthusiasm is going to go with it. By the time we get to September, more and more people might be looking at AEW screaming out for attention, shrug and get back to what they were doing.

Long-term, even if this show is a success, it’s going to subconsciously stand as a comparative challenge to where AEW ends up in the future. When they CAN’T fill up that building in New York — if they don’t even try — that does damage to the perception of AEW too. Make no mistake about it, if WrestleMania ever has to go back to the Hartford Civic Center it is going to sting and be noticeable to fans.

All these empty promises from AEW, all these publicity stunts and proclamations about how BIG they are — look at how BIG we are! — are going to come back to bite them, as if they haven’t already (half their potential viewership deciding this is bogus, TNT kicking them from their slot, TNT kicking them from their NETWORK).

Shift those goalposts, cunts. I am right. I have been from the start — the moment they pulled PAC and Page from Double or Nothing and the apologetics started. And that is this place’s real issue with me. They don’t like that I make them feel so damn wrong.

AEW sucks, guys.
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AEW sucks, guys.
Let's be frank here. It all sucks right now and odds are it will continue to suck. And now amount of armchair booking, minor league reviewing and general bitching will change that. I watch what I can and take whatever enjoyment I can from the wrestlers I like and forget about the rest and wait for he next show
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