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Old 07-17-2020, 08:59 PM   #1
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Who is on your Mount Rushmore of WWE Female Superstars
Strictly Wrestlers. You can count Sable and Steph. Elizabeth and Sunny not eligible.

Someone posted this in a facebook group I'm in and it's WAY harder picking 4 female Superstars than it is male.












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Old 07-17-2020, 09:29 PM   #2
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Wendi Richter, Sable, Trish Stratus and Charlotte Flair

Someone from Rock 'n' Wrestling, someone from the Attitude era, someone from that attempt to turn Divas into wrestlers and someone from the post-Divas presentation.
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Old 07-17-2020, 09:37 PM   #3
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Chyna, Charlotte, Becky, Trish
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I'd go

Wendi
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Trish
Moolah

Hard leaving out names like Madusa, Beth Phoenix, Charlotte, Becky and Lita
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Chyna
Trish
Charlotte

Hard leaving out names like Madusa, Beth Phoenix and Lita. Plus you have Moolah who you can make a case for and against
Very close to my list. I considered Moolah for a bit, just because of significance, good and bad. I didn't consider Beth at all though. Is there a reason she made your shortlist?
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4 time champion and 3 of those 4 were pretty long reigns. She held that division together for a long long time and was far ahead of her peers during that era. Came along 10-15 years too early.
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And moolah is non negotiable. Her impact is inarguable. Moralizing who's an alltime great is idiotic. She had the career she had; its irrelevant of any dealings outside the ring. The cosby show remains an all time great sitcom. Michael Jackson is still the king of pop. 2 slave owners are on the ACTUAL mt Rushmore.



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Why Sable over Chyna for those of you who are going with Sable as your "Attitude Era" pick
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Sable was a huge part of the WWFs success in the late 90s but more over Sable is the reason a womens division became a staple. the title was brought back as a prop for sable and women were hired and built up to give her stuff to do



Without her Trish and the work she did to legitimize womens wrestling in the states would have never occured. Sables impact dwarfs chynas.
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If i were to bump anyone from my list for chyna it would be trish before sable and any rushmore without trish is as incomplete as one without moolah
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I suppose I'll defend Richter too while im here. The optics of Richter are symbiotic in Hogans mainstream success. Rock n wrestling is a big part of his history and her ability to bridge the gap into the MTV audience cannot be undersold. Those eyeballs that she garnered translated into a generation of wrestling fans. Many of which where the same viewers in the late 90s just older.
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In terms of the impact they had on WWE, my thoughts echo Destor's.
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4 time champion and 3 of those 4 were pretty long reigns. She held that division together for a long long time and was far ahead of her peers during that era. Came along 10-15 years too early.
Completely agree about her being too early. Just surprised to see her make your four, I guess, haha.


Destor is right on all counts. I’m probably being too cerebral with Moolah and cutting her for revisionist “What was she really worth?” thinking.
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I suppose I'll defend Richter too while im here. The optics of Richter are symbiotic in Hogans mainstream success. Rock n wrestling is a big part of his history and her ability to bridge the gap into the MTV audience cannot be undersold. Those eyeballs that she garnered translated into a generation of wrestling fans. Many of which where the same viewers in the late 90s just older.
I've watched pretty much all available 1984 WWF footage and Wendi's importance to the success of WWF's expansion is grossly understated.
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Completely agree about her being too early. Just surprised to see her make your four, I guess, haha.


Destor is right on all counts. I’m probably being too cerebral with Moolah and cutting her for revisionist “What was she really worth?” thinking.
Beth didn't make my 4, but she's an Honorable Mention
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Sable was a huge part of the WWFs success in the late 90s but more over Sable is the reason a womens division became a staple. the title was brought back as a prop for sable and women were hired and built up to give her stuff to do



Without her Trish and the work she did to legitimize womens wrestling in the states would have never occured. Sables impact dwarfs chynas.

Sable's segments were guaranteed ratings draws. Can't deny that.
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And moolah is non negotiable. Her impact is inarguable. Moralizing who's an alltime great is idiotic. She had the career she had; its irrelevant of any dealings outside the ring. The cosby show remains an all time great sitcom. Michael Jackson is still the king of pop. 2 slave owners are on the ACTUAL mt Rushmore.



Moolah is in.
Yeah I really should have factored all the female talent that came out of Moolah's camp as well.

I'll put Moolah in and take out Charlotte.
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AJ Lee, Becky Lynch, Charlotte Flair, Stephanie McMahon.
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In my serious answer.... gonna leave off Moolah and Richter, because while the arguments for them sound good.... I don't really know them.... so I guess this list is more "personal experiences" rather than "objective".


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Wasn't really a fan of Sable, but I can admit the ratings she brought, and it is a good point that the belt was brought back for her, so she kind of kicked off the entire "modern era".

Trish because she began to actually legitimize the division and the belt for a number of years. Also because she was involved in a storyline with Christian. *shifty eyes*

I picked AJ Lee because it seemed like the "divas division" post-Trish had just sunk back down into murky depths again.... I feel like it was AJ Lee who really started to pull it out and really spark off the current emphasis on women's wrestling.

If AJ Lee is the one who lit the spark, then Charlotte Flair is the one to carry the torch. So many historic firsts for women, bazillion time champion... Much as I love Becky Lynch, she would not have got as over without a Charlotte Flair to work against.
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I tried to pick not just based on in ring accomplishments.

AJ Lee - Before she even had her successful championship run, she was a big part of a lot of storylines, and worked aside main event men. She was the GM of Raw, was certainly the one who stood out as the best female during the beginning of the Total Divas era, and after her successful run when WWE tried to go back to 2 minute "diva matches" the #givedivasachance came about. As much as WWE ignores it, or tries to portray Paige as the kickstarter of the Evolution, it was AJ. This was my hardest pick, hence the long explanation.

Becky Lynch - She is the only female to truly ascend to face of the company level of superstardom. She was the easiest pick.

Charlotte Flair - She is the John Cena of the women's division. Just by the sheer amount of accolades WWE has given her for 5+ years going back to NXT, it's impossible to leave her off.

Stephanie McMahon - While she rarely wrestles, she has contributed more to the storylines over the last 2 decades+ than any 3 females combined.

As much as others accomplished prior to AJ Lee, it's hard for me to say they should be included when WWE themselves never gave any of them a shot at being an equal part of the show for any sustained amount of time.
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I never got the fascination with AJ Lee in any way
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She was a hot nerd who was actually fairly talented during the abysmal divas period. I don’t think her impact was significant though. The whole divas revolution would have kicked off regardless.
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I think through her stories with the men, people actually cared about her, so then when she got involved in the actual women's division, people once again started to care about it. For the first time since Trish, there were actual stories and feuds that kind of meant something.
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I could have been the best female wrestler of that era. It’s not an impressive achievement.
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You are probably right, but somebody was going to kick it off, and it was her. Somebody else mentioned that when other females had good runs, when the runs ended it quickly would go back to random quick nothing segments, and nobody cared.

When WWE tried to do that after AJ, the fans shit on WWE to the point they immediately changed the direction of the entire company. If AJ Lee wasn't so good in her role, it wouldn't have been such a quick course correction.

AJ was never my favorite, but I think the "Mount Rushmore" discussion is based on importance and accolades more than just who are our personal favorites.

I would say only Becky makes my personal favorite 4 out of the 4 I picked above, but I don't see anybody more important.
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