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Old 10-25-2018, 10:47 PM   #401
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:51 PM   #402
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How is giving people the right to do something, only to kill then when they attempt to exercise that right, progressive in any way though? That doesn't make sense.
So they're killing every woman that attempts to drive? I know something happened with some activists who worked towards getting the ban lifted but that's different than killing women who attempt to drive. I doesn't make sense because its not true.
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:12 PM   #403
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I may have been mistaken as I thought I heard about women driving getting pulled over but can't find anything on it yet. You are correct that they've detained human rights activists who, among other things, were fighting for the ban on woman drivers to be lifted. Those activists are facing being beheaded/executed, which is not progress.

I get where you're coming from as far as whether or not you're concerned with what happens outside your personal bubble. That's fine. But you shouldn't argue an oppressive regime is making any progress when they're killing people after luring them into a trap or scheduling executions for people who fighting for human rights just because women can drive.
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:27 PM   #404
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I'm sure the women get pulled over, they're still woman drivers after all.
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:36 PM   #405
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Nah, I meant Trump.

It's the same thing all over basically.
If you really believe that then you have as little sense as Trump himself.
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:46 PM   #406
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If you really believe that then you have as little sense as Trump himself.
The one thing InfoWars had right that I will concede to is their/his slogan, "There's a war on for your mind"

Fuck Alex Jones, though.
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:40 AM   #407
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If you really believe that then you have as little sense as Trump himself.
How is this "It's cool to be hating and laughing at the President" thing not the same in both cases?

I assume you thought I meant THEY are the same?
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:16 AM   #408
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They allow women to attend the shows which from the bit I understand they don't always get to go to public events.
Women have always been allowed to go to the events but they always have to be accompanied by a man.

A woman can never go one her own or with other women.

I could be wrong with this part but I think that it's not just with events but leaving the house in general.

I don't think women can leave the house without a man accompanying her. Again though, I could be wrong with that.
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:30 AM   #409
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I may have been mistaken as I thought I heard about women driving getting pulled over but can't find anything on it yet. You are correct that they've detained human rights activists who, among other things, were fighting for the ban on woman drivers to be lifted. Those activists are facing being beheaded/executed, which is not progress.

I get where you're coming from as far as whether or not you're concerned with what happens outside your personal bubble. That's fine. But you shouldn't argue an oppressive regime is making any progress when they're killing people after luring them into a trap or scheduling executions for people who fighting for human rights just because women can drive.
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I'm sure the women get pulled over, they're still woman drivers after all.
Saudi Arabia: Women! You can all drive now!

Saudi Women: Great! Our nation is progressing!

*Drives car and gets pulled over*

Saudi Arabia: How dare you try to drive!

*Beheads woman*

Simple Fan: Well, at least they got to drive.
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Old 10-26-2018, 11:40 AM   #410
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Driving is over-rated.
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Old 10-26-2018, 11:41 AM   #411
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Old 10-26-2018, 12:18 PM   #412
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I'm sure the women get pulled over, they're still woman drivers after all.
Fuck’s sake.
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:11 PM   #413
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Saudi Arabia: Women! You can all drive now!

Saudi Women: Great! Our nation is progressing!

*Drives car and gets pulled over*

Saudi Arabia: How dare you try to drive!

*Beheads woman*

Simple Fan: Well, at least they got to drive.
God damn it, I popped for that Cena pic
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:44 PM   #414
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I'm sure the women get pulled over, they're still woman drivers after all.
Wait, did the Saudi Police murder a woman for driving a car now? Is this something that happened?
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:30 PM   #415
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I could've sworn I saw something that insinuated as much but didn't find anything when I actually bothered to search. Could've been a click bait article, but I can't recall.
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Old 10-26-2018, 05:03 PM   #416
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Think that might have been more for being activists in general although don't think any were executed yet. Like shortly before the driving ban was going to be lifted, the Saudis did a crackdown on female activists and drivers.

WWE's propaganda videos for the Saudis at the Greatest Rumble did lead to one women shown driving in the video getting arrested sometime after the event.
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:22 PM   #417
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Maybe that's what I saw and my brain remembers differently. Nonetheless, the whole idea of them making any semblance of progress is comical. They are not. If simple fan doesn't care, that's his right. Citing a propaganda video by the E isn't a good look tho.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:05 PM   #418
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Pretending that Saudi Arabia isn't a shit country is an American tradition:
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It is unquestionably a shit country
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It is unquestionably a shit country
Noid would disagree.

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Cultural relativism is simply a framework for looking at cultures that doesn't place significance on the western way of living as superior. It stops looking at hunter-gatherer tribes as "primitive" because they don't see their purpose in life to accumulate wealth or own a PlayStation (although they might think PlayStations are great).

It's a useful tool for not placing different cultures on a scale of "bad" to "good" based on inherent bias towards your own culture. It's nowhere near the same thing as criticizing a dictator dealing with US money to abuse human rights and oppress a culture.
Hunter-gatherer tribes are primitive. Fact.
Saudi Arabia is bad. Fact.

Noid: Their dictator is just dealing with American money to abuse human rights...

LOL
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I'll admit that I'm essentially a simpleton when it comes to politics and world news. I'm not ignorant, however. A country as corrupt and oppressive as Saudi Arabia can I'm no way be anything other than a shit place to live.
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I'll admit that I'm essentially a simpleton when it comes to politics and world news. I'm not ignorant, however. A country as corrupt and oppressive as Saudi Arabia can I'm no way be anything other than a shit place to live.
Most normal people realize that. It's merely people who can't think for themselves that buy into ideas such as cultural relativism. America is objectively better than Saudi Arabia.
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It is subjectively better. Is there anyone who thinks otherwise?
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How is this "It's cool to be hating and laughing at the President" thing not the same in both cases?

I assume you thought I meant THEY are the same?
Yes that is how I read it. I apologize for my misunderstanding.

That said, I agree with your post 100% now that I realize what you meant.

Also, George W. is about 1000 times better than The Donald!
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Yes that is how I read it. I apologize for my misunderstanding.

That said, I agree with your post 100% now that I realize what you meant.

Also, George W. is about 1000 times better than The Donald!
Yeah, we had the same thing here with Lech Kaczyński. Everyone'd hate him, laugh at him, it was just tiresome. Sure, he was a halfwit, but I was just tired of people bringing him up on every occasion.

And then he died in a plane crash.
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People like DTTS have to skewer arguments and set up straw-men because they don't have any substance. Saudi Arabia is a shit place and the regime there is fucked. I've said nothing to the contrary in this thread. Fuck him and I hope he gets shunned for the absolute filth coming out of his mouth.
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People like DTTS have to skewer arguments and set up straw-men because they don't have any substance. Saudi Arabia is a shit place and the regime there is fucked. I've said nothing to the contrary in this thread. Fuck him and I hope he gets shunned for the absolute filth coming out of his mouth.
I never have to set up straw men because idiots like you are always willing to build arguments from sawdust.

You think you're intelligent and educated, but in reality you're just checking boxes and aligning your vocabulary with the approved word bank. You're a sheep.
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Says the guy who thinks that the only reason people care about the atrocities in Saudi Arabia is because of Trump. This shit has been going on for a lot longer than Trump's been President. It's such a flimsy point.
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Says the guy who thinks that the only reason people care about the atrocities in Saudi Arabia is because of Trump. This shit has been going on for a lot longer than Trump's been President. It's such a flimsy point.
That's the fucking point, moron.

It's been going on "for a lot longer than Trump's been President" and you haven't given a shit.

Inconsistent and hypocritical.
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Another thread you decided to hijack or try to turn the discussion to something completely else political wise because of your warped views on things.

Forget it, think you time on TPWW is at its end since I already know things are going to become even more abysmal here, especially in Casual, in a couple of weeks mainly because of your history.
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Another thread you decided to hijack or try to turn the discussion to something completely else political wise because of your warped views on things.

Forget it, think you time on TPWW is at its end since I already know things are going to become even more abysmal here, especially in Casual, in a couple of weeks mainly because of your history.
Hey meatball, you're a good poster, but fuck off.

You're not THAT good.
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That's the fucking point, moron.

It's been going on "for a lot longer than Trump's been President" and you haven't given a shit.

Inconsistent and hypocritical.
Bullshit. Don't put your bullshit perspectives into my mouth. The first woman I ever dated moved here from Saudi Arabia. Fuck you for daring to project your twisted little biases onto other people. Go after the things that are actually being said.

I haven't ever had the need to talk about Saudi Arabia in the context of wrestling. Believe it or not, that's what I come here for. If I went into discussion or casual more maybe it would pop up? But it makes no sense to project not caring about something onto someone just because you ignorant ass hasn't been around for the conversations.

Kindly fuck you.
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Bullshit. Don't put your bullshit perspectives into my mouth. The first woman I ever dated moved here from Saudi Arabia. Fuck you for daring to project your twisted little biases onto other people. Go after the things that are actually being said.

I haven't ever had the need to talk about Saudi Arabia in the context of wrestling. Believe it or not, that's what I come here for. If I went into discussion or casual more maybe it would pop up? But it makes no sense to project not caring about something onto someone just because you ignorant ass hasn't been around for the conversations.

Kindly fuck you.
lol you just admitted you have the same bias that Saudi Arabia is a shit country.

You have lost your way, you little white hetero cisgender male. Now everyone knows you're alt-right.
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Also you mentioned it in April and didn't seem to give a shit one way or another.
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lol you just admitted you have the same bias that Saudi Arabia is a shit country.

You have lost your way, you little white hetero cisgender male. Now everyone knows you're alt-right.
Go back and read my post. I say nothing of the sort. I think the regime in Saudi Arabia is shit, and I've always said that. That's not the same as saying all the people are shit or whatever it is you think. But that's besides the point anyway, because I didn't even say that. You're making stuff up.

And again you have to make up someone's opinions for them instead of dealing with whatever it is they actually do or say. I've never been pro this deal. I always thought it was an extremely sketchy arrangement given the political climate surrounding the country. "Didn't seem to give a shit one way or another" -- dude, there's no possible way to have that insight into someone's perspective. Again, you're making stuff up.
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Shutting down the thread for the time being since it got derailed.

Edit: Finished the cleaning. Sorry for the delay.
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A Saudi orchestrated plane crash I bet!
Russian orchestrated plane crash!
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Go back and read my post. I say nothing of the sort. I think the regime in Saudi Arabia is shit, and I've always said that. That's not the same as saying all the people are shit or whatever it is you think. But that's besides the point anyway, because I didn't even say that. You're making stuff up.

And again you have to make up someone's opinions for them instead of dealing with whatever it is they actually do or say. I've never been pro this deal. I always thought it was an extremely sketchy arrangement given the political climate surrounding the country. "Didn't seem to give a shit one way or another" -- dude, there's no possible way to have that insight into someone's perspective. Again, you're making stuff up.
I'd expect nothing less from a white supremacist.

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Saudi Arabia is a shit place and the regime there is fucked.
You accuse me of what you do in this thread constantly. You and Smelly Meatball are so far up your asses you actually think you know what I think about shit, but in reality you're both so stupid and ignorant that you barely understand your own assertions.

Major cognitive dissonance on your side of the house over this. You guys are making it pretty clear that you can't even keep track of your own arguments, so maybe stop trying to re-write mine.
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Let's go Alicia!
This is the thread where we laugh at people who are pretending to care about Saudi Arabian human rights violations.
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