05-29-2018, 11:38 PM | #41 |
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I agree with all of that, except for just some semantic points. Like The Miz taking a chance -- I think that was just what Talking Smack was. And I don't think Miz would necessarily kill it back then. I think he's being judged on a curve because everything is terrible now. But we're just looking at the same issue from a different perspective on that.
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05-30-2018, 12:13 AM | #42 |
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Miz is the best heel promo in the past 10 years. He's fantastic .
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05-30-2018, 12:29 AM | #43 |
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"He's the smartest retard here"
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05-30-2018, 12:31 AM | #44 | |
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05-30-2018, 12:38 AM | #45 |
I W C DEEZ NUTZ!
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"Yep. Prob'ly the hardest match I ever had in my life. But I don't like it- when things aren't my going my way."
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05-30-2018, 07:34 AM | #46 |
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05-30-2018, 07:37 AM | #47 |
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05-30-2018, 08:12 AM | #48 |
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He's more than 7/10
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05-30-2018, 08:23 AM | #49 |
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I'll concede. He's 7.2/10.
You love schlock so much. |
05-30-2018, 10:28 AM | #50 |
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Miz is 10/10 on promos
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05-30-2018, 10:30 AM | #51 |
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You think miz is one of the best promos of all time?
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05-30-2018, 10:33 AM | #52 |
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some people like shit as hollow as crappy Easter chocolate.
Miz is excellent at speaking words. The talking smack promo was the closest thing we've ever seen him do that could have created buzz and drawn money. |
05-30-2018, 11:08 AM | #53 |
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Not in the backyard.
While the WWE may have lost there touch with promos lately, athletes in the backyard are still cutting good ones. Just check out CWBs promo before his latest match for your promo fix! Enjoy. |
05-30-2018, 10:55 PM | #54 | |
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So much modern stuff is overrated when put into context. I think it's conditioning. You slide into modern stuff and sometimes don't even realize how piss-poor it is, because you've been rats to stay alive for so long. |
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05-30-2018, 10:58 PM | #55 |
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This man is not scary. I realize he has different hair now and looks *a bit* cooler, but he's still largely a giant goof that kind of moves like Bambi on ice. |
05-30-2018, 11:03 PM | #56 |
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SAY IT TO HIS FACE!!!!
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05-30-2018, 11:16 PM | #57 |
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That's what I'm talking about. Fuck the Miz, CWB is the GOAT.
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05-30-2018, 11:30 PM | #58 |
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I am more afraid of the backyard guys, because they don't play by the rules, and if you attack one, you attack them all.
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05-30-2018, 11:43 PM | #60 | |
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06-02-2018, 12:09 PM | #61 |
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06-02-2018, 01:51 PM | #62 |
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EACH.................AND EVERY..........................ONE......................OF YOU
Must be some kind of fucking mandate from Vince to include that line as much as possible, been hearing it since the late 90's and it still gets used frequently. |
06-02-2018, 04:45 PM | #63 |
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because ya see...…..the fact of the matter is
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06-02-2018, 04:55 PM | #64 |
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When the dust settles
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06-02-2018, 05:20 PM | #65 |
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HERE'S THE THING
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06-03-2018, 03:16 PM | #66 |
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Savage was my favourite growing up. He was larger than life and he was always amped up. He 100% sold the story and the emotion of the situation. He had promos in absolute despair about Liz, promos seething with anger and it was all believable.
Without kayfabe and performers really buying into their stories, promos will never be awesome. Miz on Talking Smack was no doubt planned, but he obviously tapped into the nerve of people underestimating his ability as a wrestler and putting him down for so many years. That's why it was great. Most of the time he is like everyone else, just going through the emotions. But he is witty and articulate, so it stands out. It still doesn't make a good promo imo Also, coke helps a lot |
06-03-2018, 03:32 PM | #67 | |
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He sounds natural, shows emotion at the proper time, gets heat, talks them in, builds interest, gets other people over just by talking, and is as consistent as they come. He doesn't make his entire promo one long catchphrase (like Road Dogg), and he stays true to his character. Actually maybe you are right, Miz isn't a good promo, he is a great promo. |
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06-03-2018, 05:04 PM | #68 |
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Go back and watch the very best Flair, Savage, Hogan promos. Even second tier guys like Piper, Roberts, Anderson. Promos back then sold the tickets. You wanted to see the match after listening to them.
I would love to hear times when people ordered a PPV in th past or got the network after hearing a Miz promo. Guys like Austin, Angle, Jericho and even the much maligned JBL are tiers above Miz as a promo imo. It's the nature of a poor product, uncreative writing and guys who haven't travelled and worked their craft in territories before coming to WWE. It is cookie cutter, and yeah, I would say there isn't a good full time promo guy in the company in 2018 |
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06-03-2018, 05:53 PM | #70 |
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Just using those examples as you would in any other field. To add perspective when you suggest that he is a good promo. I understand why you think that and accept your opinion, but in my view, he is not a good promo in traditional terms.
The point of my post was, when you compare Miz with guys that are genuinely good promos, he falls short. |
06-03-2018, 06:46 PM | #71 |
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This is the last time i post a troll thread.
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06-03-2018, 07:04 PM | #73 |
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interesting is a bit of a stretch when describing the Miz.
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06-03-2018, 07:41 PM | #74 |
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My post didnt go through but a short version is lol at anyone who thinks Miz is not a great promo.
He is literally the only person in like 10 years to be able to constantly deliver great promos with all the script crap that happens. No one else has gone night in and night out destroying it like Miz. |
06-03-2018, 08:54 PM | #75 |
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lol "destroying"
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06-03-2018, 09:03 PM | #76 |
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He's miles ahead of anyone
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06-03-2018, 09:07 PM | #77 |
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Oh he is. Just everyone stinks.
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06-03-2018, 09:07 PM | #78 |
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Joe is pretty good but still not great.
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06-03-2018, 09:10 PM | #79 |
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I have hope for McIntyre.
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06-03-2018, 09:26 PM | #80 |
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I said in one of the Raw threads a few weeks back, but the mood and feel of the show changes when he comes out. Call it the aura or whatever, but Drew feels like they could have him beat Brock tomorrow and nobody would disbelieve him as Universal Champion.
If I am booking WWE I have him ditch Ziggler soon and forget about Roman and Lashley and Braun and push him as the guy instead of waiting and waiting until he cools off. |