10-07-2018, 01:50 AM | #41 | |
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10-07-2018, 01:52 AM | #42 |
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Dana just needs to find his Rocky or Hulk Hogan to defeat the evil foreign heel brotherjackdude
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10-07-2018, 01:54 AM | #43 |
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Wonder if Khabib will be on this post show.
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10-07-2018, 03:08 AM | #44 |
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Drake has CENA NUFF of Khabib lololol
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10-07-2018, 03:46 AM | #45 |
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10-07-2018, 08:57 AM | #46 |
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Honestly, Dana has himself to blame. He let Conor run wild, throwing dollies through busses, injuring fighters and now acts "disgusted" at Khabib. The precedent was already set.
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10-07-2018, 09:29 AM | #47 |
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Shit was a crazy. Wonder what the punishment will be. Should there be a rematch? I mean Khabib dominated except I'd say he lost round 3.
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10-07-2018, 10:16 AM | #48 |
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I can see Khabib being stripped of the title
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10-07-2018, 10:44 AM | #49 |
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Jack Tunney will make an official announcement this week.
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10-07-2018, 10:50 AM | #50 |
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Better to "suspend" him for whatever the duration was to be between fights. Build Diaz up in the meantime. Conner i dunno. Prob needs to go up in weight. I dont think he's ever going to want a rematch.
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10-07-2018, 02:30 PM | #51 | |
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Now if he punishes Khabib you are going to get the stereotypical "Look they let the white guy do whatever he wants and punish other people!" response. It'll turn into nonsensical race baiting and arguing when it was really just about money. The only way you can punish him at this point is if they legit just cut ties with Khabib and Conor both and say they are sick of all these childish antics and won't put up with it any more. Also that video of Drake lmao.....Drake is the biggest pos poser ever I swear. Wish he woulda found Khabib and then got skullfucked by him. |
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10-07-2018, 04:24 PM | #52 |
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What does this mean for Raw on Monday??
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10-07-2018, 05:11 PM | #53 |
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Drebin gets it
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10-07-2018, 10:29 PM | #54 | ||
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UFC has been trying to regain mainstream interest with their recent focus towards more escentric and wild fighters but forgot to reign them in once in a while so things don't get out of hand. Instead UFC is now seen like WWE with how carny things have become and just keeps taking hits to their image. Quote:
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10-07-2018, 10:33 PM | #55 |
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Dana White is a joke of a GM or Speaking Piece for the UFC. He talks big, but has zero nuts to do what needs to be done as far a disciplinary reasons. The guy is way to close to the fighters. That or the UFC is in bad shape and he cant sit these fighters down due to financial loss.
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10-07-2018, 11:18 PM | #56 |
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I had a feeling that when the Firtittas sold, the company would take a huge down turn.
They kept Dana in line, they didnt let the fighters run wild, and they were experts at a live production. Even in the days where this was a crazier sport, there was never a brawl like this. UFC still might be the pinnacle, but it might have to deal with a much stronger bellator or other shows. |
10-08-2018, 12:45 AM | #57 | |
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Now Khabib does his thing and nothing is going to happen. It cant. Dana is an idiot. |
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10-08-2018, 08:41 AM | #58 |
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I wonder if they will do a 3 way dance with Tony Ferg vs Connor vs Khabib FOR THE TITLE.
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10-08-2018, 08:53 AM | #59 | |
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This does make Khabib a huge draw now, and UFC wants to stay in russia, but Khabib also had a plan of beating mcgregor and walking away as well. He is also critical of Dana white and the UFC as a whole. |
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10-08-2018, 09:26 AM | #60 |
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Wondering if Khabib will be stripped and just get an immediate rematch.
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10-08-2018, 09:56 AM | #61 |
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10-08-2018, 10:00 AM | #62 |
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Someone argued with me that because "this was so personal" it couldn't be like pro wrestling, and Brock Lesnar's "Bud Light" promo was more pro wrestling.
I said the fact that it came off as so personal makes it BETTER pro wrestling. I don't think he got it. Not everyone is aware that pro wrestling events used to regularly end in riots, and because UFC has the benefit of being "real", it's much easier to run fucking awesome angles like this one. Even if Khabib was genuine, the stage was set for him to run wild by McGregor in the case of a Khabib win, making interest for a rematch imminent even if Conor got his salad tossed. |
10-08-2018, 10:23 AM | #63 |
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Since the buy out they've been doing bigger and bigger angles. I think at some point you'll shit the bed but its no coincidence that the drama centers around the top draw. That's not an accident.
Boxing, Wrestling, MMA hell even Sumo. Its all a work on one level or another. UFC will be fine as long as they dont work too many fights themselves and leave it to the build up. (They have worked some finishes over the years but not near as much as Boxing for example.) In any case Khabib has riot level heat and its good for everyone. |
10-08-2018, 10:26 AM | #64 |
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Yeah, they can't work too many fights. Working angles for now is enough. They just run the risk of how much is too much?
Though working fights worked for PRIDE until the authorities "caught on" to them. |
10-08-2018, 10:35 AM | #65 |
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What was a worked finish in UFC?
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10-08-2018, 10:44 AM | #66 |
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weird judging calls scream "fix" to me. Of which there have been too many to list.
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10-08-2018, 11:13 AM | #67 |
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According to Wanderlei Silva tons have been fixed. Lot of debate on which.
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10-08-2018, 11:14 AM | #68 |
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Lot damning evidence that the Lesnar Couture fight was fixed and Don Frye said that it and the second Mir fight was a work too
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10-08-2018, 11:18 AM | #69 | |
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How is a fight worked when the losing fighter has his face come out looking like hamburger? Brock was an NCAA champion wrestler. He had the skills to beat both couture and mir. Mir had some good wins, but it was clear he was never good enough to hang with the best in the division after the second brock fight. Couture was horrendously out sized against a man with a ton of skill. He was out sized by sylvia too, but he was able to daze him in the opening seconds and outside of striking, sylvia didnt have a lot of skill. Gonzaga was not much bigger than randy. |
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10-08-2018, 11:29 AM | #71 |
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Lol
Worked doesnt mean fake. Doesnt mean you dont hit one another. That's what will keep MMAs kayfabe much longer (like boxing) than wrestling and sumo. They play mich rougher. But if you honestly think there's that much money on the line and people arent taking dives i dont know what to tell you. |
10-08-2018, 11:34 AM | #72 |
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What fights do you think people took dives?
Boxing is different because there is no follow up on a knock down, but you see guys flatlined on the ground in mma. Dives at the highest levels with the money on the line that you are thinking would be exposed fast and there would be way more people talking about it outside of wanderlei's sour grapes and don fry |
10-08-2018, 11:41 AM | #73 |
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Sure man
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10-08-2018, 11:45 AM | #74 |
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Well dont just "sure man" give some sort of example
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10-08-2018, 11:55 AM | #75 |
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I can't think of one fight in the UFC that was "Fixed"
Someone could argue Ortiz vs Sonnen in Bellator or anything with involving Kimbo in EliteXC but I can't think of a fixed UFC fight. |
10-08-2018, 12:03 PM | #76 |
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which means they're good at fixing fights. I'd guess it's a very low % of fights that are fixed. But to think they don't fix fights is naive, given the ENTIRE history of fighting.
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10-08-2018, 12:14 PM | #77 |
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Reavant don't argue with Dale he thinks men should be sent to prison for sex crimes even if there is no evidence of it ever occurring.
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10-08-2018, 12:19 PM | #78 |
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All jokes aside-
Who is fixing the fights? Has Dana been fixing the low percentage of fights? What fights do you expect to have been fixed? |
10-08-2018, 02:50 PM | #79 | |
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It would be a little naive to think fighters themselves may have bet for or against themselves, however losing a fight you can win is going to keep more money out of your pocket in the long run than a single bet ever would pay you. UFC wanted a legitimate sport. One fixed fight by them ruins their entire credibility and everything they have worked 25 years for. At the very least, I am willing to say that there has not been an organization fight fix since the Firtittas owned it. If they wanted to fix fights, connor would never lose, brock would never lose, and they wouldnt have instituted USADA. |
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10-08-2018, 06:56 PM | #80 |
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I watched the Shane Carwin v Lesnar match on tv recently enough, and how Carwin didn't win in that first round by demolishing Lesnar and gassing himself in the process is mind boggling.
Lesnar was toast. Fights had have been called for less. You could see why someone would think there's a fix in to keep a guy who's a huge draw and star over as the company's top champ. |