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Old 06-25-2019, 05:23 PM   #41
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Ospreay has been a cunt on twitter before, so honestly, these two can have each other.
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Old 06-25-2019, 05:42 PM   #42
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:38 PM   #43
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He's dead wrong. Its always a specific person who brings it back.
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:46 PM   #44
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Definitely think there's something to it being a Vince directive.

Who refuses feels the need to publicly fire back at everybody? Trump.

Who is Vince friends with? Trump.

I really think the idea of simply taking the high road like Cena won't resonate with Vince anymore. He feels you need to fire back at your critics or you're a pushover.
Doubt its an actual Vince directive since for the most part WWE is pretty much hands off on how talent handle social media. They probably are quietly approving his antics though since its proving in their eyes that he's a staunch defender of the company and won't bite the hand that feeds.

He's done stuff similar to this before in social media but usually just jumped in when others were on the attack.
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:52 PM   #45
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Rollins' original comment was after the whole dumb Peyton Royce / Meltzer thing last year
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He's dead wrong. Its always a specific person who brings it back.
Yeah he kinda forgot about that whole Austin thing
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:38 PM   #47
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Rollins wasn't told to say something negative about Reigns' leukemia

I lost some respect for the man*

*Not his g/f...Seth
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I hope he never had someone called Amy hung
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Old 06-26-2019, 01:35 AM   #49
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I feel like Roman went through something similar last year. He wasn't the champ but was the de-facto top guy with Lesnar not working for months at a time. When the camera weren't rolling, Reigns would flip off and curse out fans booing him and he'd call out people on Twitter who were talking bad about WWE all the time, and I think he mentioned the money he was making too.

Almost makes me wonder if this is a directive from Vince for the #1 guy to act like this.
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I really hope this is a Vince directive. Because all it’s done is make his top babyface look like a prick while giving a rising star in another promotion a bunch of free publicity. That sounds about right.
There might be something to this. Orton did the same shit as champ. Now, you might say "yeah, but that's Orton", the point is, there has been a lot of "look how much money I got" from the top.

At this point, it's kinda like still saying "bingo halls" as a perjorative for indies.

That said, the blood money reply was pretty priceless.


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The bank account comment by Rollins is doesn't prove much, but neither does Ospreays "I'm better cause I've had more matches this year" comment. Both seem like a dumb way to argue your case.
I wonder if these were just jabs at one another that fanbases are making worse than the intent. Hard to tell sometime if they're sitting back like "look at all these marks... so, we up for golf this weekend?" or if they legit are taking serious digs because they really don't like the other guy. Both of those are totally plausible because internet.

And you thought the mystery of kayfabe was dead.
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Old 06-26-2019, 01:39 AM   #50
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I hope he never had someone called Amy hung
Mia Yim will now fall into the revamped NXT Name Generator 2.0 and now be called Amy Hung.
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Old 06-26-2019, 01:44 AM   #51
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He's dead wrong. Its always a specific person who brings it back.
It’s weird that this needs to be said.
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Old 06-26-2019, 01:56 AM   #52
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On the Nash thing, though (not necessarily about him)... is it really such an apples to apples comparison? I mean, we live in a time where it doesn't matter who the champ is because the product by and large is ass. We could concieveably have a hypothetical "Austin 3:16" moment pissed away and forgotten inside of a month because of bad booking, shitty script writing, manic camerawork, and half-empty, dead sounding arenas.

There is a difference between people not caring about the current champ, and not caring who the champion even is because it doesn't matter since you've succeeded in making most of your roster appear not nearly as special as they should be?
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You can’t have an Austin 3:16 moment in today’s environment. But let’s not use that as an excuse to call all of our favorites “wastes of potential Austins”.

Only Fandango and a VERY small handful of others over recent years deserve that title.
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Old 06-26-2019, 04:09 AM   #54
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You can’t have an Austin 3:16 moment in today’s environment. But let’s not use that as an excuse to call all of our favorites “wastes of potential Austins”.

Only Fandango and a VERY small handful of others over recent years deserve that title.
That's kinda not what I meant. I'm not dubbing Rollins or Kingston that thing, I'm saying they'll ride right by that shit if they find one... but they'll be hard pressed to find one to begin with, because, as a company, they've tried exceedingly hard to get folks to care so little about so much the roster.

They've managed to turn former IWGP Champion and licence to print Yen, Shinsuke Nakamura from "OH MY GOD, WWE SIGNED HIM?!? IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING?!?" to "... meh" in just a short couple of years. And he isn't anywhere near anyone's favorite, but I have to ask again: who the fuck cares about Mojo Rowley? We have not been given any reason to. No journey to follow. No matches to speak of. No angles or progression. Just the initially corny and very, very, VERY annoying gimmick, and... poof. Now, he's just there. Nearly every former NXT Champion is just there. Almost everyone is just... there. And any time they start getting any semblance of something good coming along (like, think about how bananas it would have been if Samoa Joe had beaten Brock Lesnar for the title instead of being killed dead with a single F5 in the center of the ring and then dropped down the card) they stop it in its tracks.

There's multiple reasons why an Austin wouldn't happen again: correct time and place being chief among them, but I think the point isn't so much of finding that calibur of talent as it is being able to capitalize on if something that golden came their way again. Downplaying how popular CM Punk was. Trying to sidestep Daniel Bryan. Looking completely beyond the Ryder Revolution (which, ironically, was the thing that made the company look at "this internet thing" a little closer instead of just continuing to run with the perjorative assumption it's a total of like twelve neckbeards in basements as opposed to most of the audience carrying a thing in their pockets that has access). Also, even if "Austin 3:16" happened today, he'd be jobbed out for the next month, disappear from TV, and that would be that (assuming he wasn't in the proverbial doghouse for going off script). Confiscate all the signs. Prob'ly not have even made any shirts. Fuck that guy and his plain black trunks. Gotta find a new Hogan.

So, back to what I was saying: if Dolph had beat Kofi at the PPV, would you really care? I mean, they've spent so much time telling everyone by actions over the years that these guys aren't worth much to invest fandom into, so did it really matter? Even throwing out the PPV match wasn't the greatest (unfortunate, I've stated my opinion on those two before) it still should have been more notable: two BIG STARS mixing it up. They could have injected anyone into that match and had THEM win it and there would still be this feeling of apathy that isn't really correctly indicative of any of the talent involved themselves, but a symptom of the treatment of most of the roster as a whole.
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WWE is like The Simpsons to me at this point, even if it suddenly started to be good again I wouldn't care because it's been not good for so long. I have a couple of certain time period of it that I look at fondly and just want to move on with my life at this point.m
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That's honestly a really good analogy. A couple years ago I watched some new Simpsons episodes and found them surprisingly enjoyable. But I still didn't go back to watching every week.
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Seth is a fucking douchebag. Glad Meltzer got to take that jab at him.
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Seth's tweets are certainly irritating (considering his position in the company). It's one thing to be proud of your workplace and another to be completely delusional. The way he condescended Ospreay didn't sit well with me either. "little guy", "buddy", and suggesting to "compare bank statements" was kinda disgusting. Is he trying a bit too hard to be the "company man"?

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Yeah, he is. And he's not coming off like a babyface at all. Guy's got no clue how to carry himself.
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In comparison, Cena and Reigns come across as class acts.
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Is this still going on or was it a one day mouth off?
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:33 PM   #64
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Seth is a fucking douchebag. Glad Meltzer got to take that jab at him.
What about your boy "The Cleaner" tweeting about Blood Money Saudi stuff when Multiple people that work for his company took that money, then cried about evolve airing on the network the same day as an AEW show. I thought they wanted competition? Lol

Or what about deleting the tweet when people started to call him out for that crap.

That seems like Kenny is a "fucking doucgebag", far more than Seth Rollins.

I get it though, WWE guy Bad, AEW Guy Yay.

Meltzer is a punk. How does he know WWE PPV buys within a day, yet he reps AEW at every turn, and it took him 3 weeks to determine D.O.N. Buyrates?

Bias Meltzer has zero credibility.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:35 PM   #65
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Is this still going on or was it a one day mouth off?
Naw, now it's Omega crying about WWE sending Bobby Fish to steal away viewers from AEW's free show lol
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Kenny definitely overreacted there. Twitter just seems to bring out the douche in everyone.
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Wonder if xrodmuc316 can tell us what Vince’s cum tastes like.
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Wonder if xrodmuc316 can tell us what Vince’s cum tastes like.
“It’s such good shit.”
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I think xrod, like STD is tired of the hyperbole on the internet of how amazing AEW is going.

Problem is, that hyperbole doesn’t exist on tpww. People are excited for a new big budget alternative, but no one is saying they’re going to kill wwe. No one here even wants that. Except maybe noid. And there’s been plenty of criticism towards AEW and some of their decisions.
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Exactly. I want more viable places for guys and gals to work and if AEW can light a fire under WWE to actually give a squirt of shit about the product they’re putting on television, all the better.
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What about your boy "The Cleaner" tweeting about Blood Money Saudi stuff when Multiple people that work for his company took that money, then cried about evolve airing on the network the same day as an AEW show. I thought they wanted competition? Lol

Or what about deleting the tweet when people started to call him out for that crap.

That seems like Kenny is a "fucking doucgebag", far more than Seth Rollins.

I get it though, WWE guy Bad, AEW Guy Yay.

Meltzer is a punk. How does he know WWE PPV buys within a day, yet he reps AEW at every turn, and it took him 3 weeks to determine D.O.N. Buyrates?

Bias Meltzer has zero credibility.
Lol, Omega isn't "my boy." I'm not even a big fan.

It's fine to criticize WWE for the Saudi deal. It's shitty. I don't know what talent making the trip has to do with Omega's comments.

Meltzer wants an alternative like anyone else. He's a fan too. He's obviously rooting for AEW to succeed, but why wouldn't he? Is anything he's shared factually inaccurate? I mean, I don't like the way he conflated the international buys with domestic buys to make AEW look more successful on PPV than ECW without clarifying that context, but it's not like his numbers were wrong or anything.
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What about your boy "The Cleaner" tweeting about Blood Money Saudi stuff...
Pretty sure Noid doesn’t even like Omega...
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Old 06-27-2019, 11:57 PM   #73
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I think xrod, like STD is tired of the hyperbole on the internet of how amazing AEW is going.

Problem is, that hyperbole doesn’t exist on tpww. People are excited for a new big budget alternative, but no one is saying they’re going to kill wwe. No one here even wants that. Except maybe noid. And there’s been plenty of criticism towards AEW and some of their decisions.
You can call it whatever you want, but I call it biased.

It's one can do no wrong, while the other is horrible at everything.

I call foul regardless of what wrestling company said wrestlers works for. That is the difference. Non WWE fanboys are just as bad as WWE fanboys. It's just at the current time, non WWE fanboys are pressing WAY harder.

Seth Rollins gets vilified for finally talking some trash back. Kenny Omega whines about why does WWE have to try and compete with us after that is all AEW has tried to do from jump street.

He tries to play the Saudi card, while working for a guy who has done some pretty bad things to lower class workers he employed. And as an EVP, he employees at least 4 people that I can think of who have taken that exact same "blood money" he is trying to use as a defense for WWE broadcasting a freaking Evolve show.

Hypocrisy.

Being mad at me for having the nerve to call out a non WWE wrestler. Like I said, I call that biased.
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Old 06-28-2019, 12:59 AM   #74
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Seth works better as a heel. Heel Seth with heel GF Becky Lynch would be 100x better than whats happening now
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Old 06-28-2019, 01:32 AM   #76
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... so long as they're not authority figures. We don't need a 1:1 re-hash of the McMahnon-Helmsley Era.
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Is this still going on or was it a one day mouth off?
Even worse, he is now alternating between tweeting in kayfabe and trying to make #teamWWE a thing.
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Even worse, he is now alternating between tweeting in kayfabe and trying to make #teamWWE a thing.
Even worse, he complained about AEW running a free show against Evolve's 10 anniversary show on the WWE Network. Oh wait...
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Er, ok? Kenny Omega being a drama queen does not make Seth Rollins any less of a chode. When your twitter is so bad you're making Will Ospreay look good you should probably delete your account.
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