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Old 08-03-2020, 10:10 PM   #81
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:15 PM   #82
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Montez Ford collapses in the ring during the commercial and they come back and he's wrestling

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Old 08-03-2020, 10:15 PM   #83
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Did they just run a spiked drink angle with Ford?

This show has been all over the place in terms of quality.
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:18 PM   #84
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It's like Vince McMahon finally watched Bloodsport
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:19 PM   #85
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:20 PM   #86
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What just happened to Ford?
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:23 PM   #87
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Passed out probably from a spiked drink.

Back-to-back matches that ended in a big wet fart because that was the best WWE managed to come up with for this Street Profits vs. Garza & Andrade feud tonight.
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:27 PM   #88
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Ok I might have been ok with it if it was all just random guys, but here we are with Erik, so fucking stupid.
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Kevin Dunn camera cuts making RAWUnderground as unbearable to watch as the rest of the show
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LOL now they have rioters? What is going on.
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Is wwe going law and order ripped from the headlines storylines now
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LOL now they have rioters? What is going on.
I read the spoilers, its even dumber
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:32 PM   #94
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Masked ninja rioters probably not the best idea.


fight club, ninjas, poison, lights/microphone issues. Vince Russo in the house!
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Poor nameless box outside of the PC, didn't deserve that vicious attack.

Now I see what Ryan Satin was talking about earlier when he mentioned WWE officials were stressing a lot that this new faction isn't meant to be based on current real life situations and political stuff because that parking lot segment was pretty obvious where the inspiration came from.
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fight club, ninjas, poison, lights/microphone issues. Vince Russo in the house!
They're not gonna be ninjas

I guess thats a spoiler
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Rollins and Joe promo segment was pretty good.

Problem with Rollins and his "Monday Night Messiah" gimmick in recent months is that his promos and segments just tend to drag on because he just rambles about stuff instead of being good or effective.
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Dominick is wearing the same black hoodie as those mysterious people were wearing earlier.

Probably just a pure coincidence and not something WWE actually bothered to realize during the tapings earlier today.

at Ziggler being a competitor in Shane's Underground thingy. Shane's new thing went from being something really interesting to now being a bit lame.
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Did they reveal the "new stable"...
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at the abrupt end to RAW. Not sure if that was part of the production shenanigans gag from earlier or someone legit cut the feed early.

RAW itself was weird to say the least. First half of the show was pretty terrible even by RAW standards while the other half felt like a typical RAW episode but with some wacky ideas sprinkled in. Like not even sure if the show was entertaining trainwreck tier quality but can say it really wasn't worth the big hype going in.
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Did they reveal the "new stable"...
Not really.

Only glimpse of them was several people in hoodies setting a box on fire outside of the PC. At least one sounded like a woman so its not a new all-male group.
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There is a rumor going around that this new faction might be called "Justus" based on a recent trademark filed by WWE.

Would fit with the potential theme of the faction and rumored plans for the group.
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lol but it's not political, nope not at all
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I mean beyond the fact it's obviously meant to be inspired by the recent riots and the people dressed up like Antifa....if they're actually called "Justus". lol because the rioters just wanna cause chaos and don't care about anything but themselves

sounds like a company run by a very old, out of touch Republican. oh wait.
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According to sources, the superstars in the faction are being kept close to the vest by upper brass and will not be immediately revealed.

However, from what we’re told, the group is set to “cause chaos” in WWE from a storyline standpoint and use any means necessary to get the attention of management. Our sources say the “chaos” is being caused by the group in an effort to loosen control over WWE Superstars and change the way the organization operates.

Our sources additionally tell us this storyline is specific to WWE and NOT intended to be political.
There are also other rumors of Ric Flair and Orton forming their own new faction soon as well.

Between those two groups and MVP's new group, Vince suddenly became fond of factions again.
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:25 PM   #109
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Hurt Business wrecking Raw Underground... makes sense. Lashley has an MMA background and Shelton brief time with his OTHER mentor, who was a major part of the Bloodsport shows.

All it needs is a production team that isn't run by Kevin Dunn.
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For all the intrigue surrounding tonight's show, its been mostly dog shit tier in quality so far.

Guess those rumors about everything being a big mess and extra stressful backstage in regards to tonight's taping plans were true after all.
Sounds like a normal episode of Raw. How does that confirm that it was a bigger mess than usual?

Sounds better than AEW, but worse than SmackDown or NXT. The usual.
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:38 PM   #111
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I saw a clip of the Raw Undergound stuff. Haha, that's not a shoot fight. It's just a different presentation and guys working for that environment. This is closer to what Raw should have been doing from the start.
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I saw a clip of the Raw Undergound stuff. Haha, that's not a shoot fight. It's just a different presentation and guys working for that environment. This is closer to what Raw should have been doing from the start.
And I'm perfectly fine with that. I think a more serious, physical tone works. This presentation works (I wanted to see the Bloodsport shows be their own thing, and I've long advocated for something along these lines.). Just don't get too cute with it.
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And I'm perfectly fine with that. I think a more serious, physical tone works. This presentation works (I wanted to see the Bloodsport shows be their own thing, and I've long advocated for something along these lines.). Just don't get too cute with it.
Oh, absolutely. It seems to be getting a good reaction most places. If it encourages people to actually work a more authentic style, then fucking go for it. That's been needed in wrestling for a long time. Could give them a star or two. One of these guys could end up as the Brock opponent for WrestleMania.

I've also thought that it would make sense to find substitute programming for the third hour of Raw because it is just untenable and counterproductive long-term. Raw Underground being a more risque, late night program could be an answer to that.

It'd be nice if they got the person in charge of it to be someone different to Kevin Dunn. From a booking/aesthetic production perspective, I wonder what MVP could do if he were given some sort of governance over a show? Wrestling is so fucking white. Get a black guy to put his two cents in and try and pump it full of something other than Kevin Dunn.
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People made this sound like Brawl for All. This was just good presentation of two guys having a fight. You know...wrestling?
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And I'm perfectly fine with that. I think a more serious, physical tone works. This presentation works (I wanted to see the Bloodsport shows be their own thing, and I've long advocated for something along these lines.). Just don't get too cute with it.
Yeah the ropeless ring for RAW Underground gave off some nice Bloodsport vibes but the rest of what they showed off didn't really do so.

If the idea was to present a new way for squash matches, it wasn't really that effective. The first guy they showcased was starting to get winded after just a few seconds of work.
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Maybe it is a way to bring back squash matches but with a different twist. There certainly was no back and forth action.

My only problem is if MVP has such a devastating judo throw or Shelton a back shattering spine buster, then why would they not use those moves in normal matches?
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Nothing means anything in WWE anymore. The way to go for me personally is just to enjoy the PPVs as best I can and watch the awesome roster. I also can’t care about the winners or losers because it just doesn’t fucking matter.

Hurt Business looked strong tonight. Big shit. It won’t mean anything in a month.
Corbin retired Angle, won KOTR. Who cares? He’s an entry level feud now.
Who remembers Rollins going over Lesnar twice last year on PPV?
Who’s MITB again?
Whatever happened to Rhea?
Didn’t Owens go over Rollins at Mania? That earned him nothing.

The point I’m trying to make is, no matter what happens with the current generation of talent on the 5 hours of television a week, nothing matters. Because when the WWE actually gets focused and wants to draw money, it gets focused on the stars of the 1990s and 2000s rather than investing in current talent.

It’s a tough watch these days
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Maybe it is a way to bring back squash matches but with a different twist. There certainly was no back and forth action.

My only problem is if MVP has such a devastating judo throw or Shelton a back shattering spine buster, then why would they not use those moves in normal matches?
They absolutely should.
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