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Old 10-09-2019, 03:38 AM   #81
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I’ve seen Caleb Konley before, and he struck me as “indy.” He knew his role here. I like that tjere’s a wrestling show where everyone is on board to give things tiers and put on an overall product that isn’t just about jamming everything you can in.
IIRC Caleb Konley was the focus of a wrestling documentary on MTV that ended w/ him wrestling his idol Jeff Hardy.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:41 AM   #82
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There’s gonna be a 7 team tournament to decide the first tag champs and every match is gonna be “close”. Because every match seems to have to be “close”. And that’s a fucking terrible idea.
I disagree.

A lot of matches in AEW will be 'competitive' not close, which is a very New Japan thing. People lose matches in New Japan but still come out looking strong bc it comes off as more competitive and that they lost today bc the other wrestler was 'the better man'...this time.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:44 AM   #83
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I skimmed through the first episode and enjoyed the throwback format. I don't know how sustainable it is. Always glad to see an alternative.
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IIRC Caleb Konley was the focus of a wrestling documentary on MTV that ended w/ him wrestling his idol Jeff Hardy.
isn't he the one dating rosemary and on allies youtube show.
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Old 10-09-2019, 05:17 AM   #85
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I think the quote from Aldis said it best: "From punchline to headline".

Remember how, when Corgan made the NWA purchase, folks were like "LOL, well what did he really buy?!?" He bought seeds to actually grow something. Granted, the world took a giant left turn near about the same time with the fame of certain Bullet Club members and ended up opening up a whole new timeline leading to AEW, but this was likely something in the works from day one. A passion project from Billy that isn't rushed or falsified for fucked with. I think it will fit in just fine with part two of the current wrestling renaissance (part one was the Euro scene before WWE pretty much fucked that up).
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:01 AM   #86
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I hope I keep at this. I wanted to get really into MLW too, but just...didn’t. Liked the presentation and everything.
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Old 10-09-2019, 09:49 AM   #87
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I hope I keep at this. I wanted to get really into MLW too, but just...didn’t. Liked the presentation and everything.
I feel you. I so badly wanted to be an MLW mark but the lack of consistency and certain roster choices have made me care less and less. IDK there is just something about MLW that doesn't "feel right". Where as NWA on episode one had so much more going for it. The nostalgia, huge aspect of that. The production was d o p e, from the entrance video to the in-between screen edits... commentary all of that. Promo's are better too.

I go back to MLW from time to time but haven't finished a full show with my full attention on it since probably April.

Actually I think that with AEW, NWA, and Impact someone is going to get "forced out" and I'm looking at ROH or MLW. I don't know if either are in a "bad way" financially, but I can't imagine ROH isn't on a finanical lifeline with Sinclair. I can see MLW doing okay because they can draw a crowd and sell merch and have a tv deal that pays them.
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Old 10-09-2019, 09:51 AM   #88
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Over 120k watched on Yotube and 70k on Facebook. That is over double what MLW shows do.
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I disagree.

A lot of matches in AEW will be 'competitive' not close, which is a very New Japan thing. People lose matches in New Japan but still come out looking strong bc it comes off as more competitive and that they lost today bc the other wrestler was 'the better man'...this time.
If it’s always “this time” though, then what’s the point? If everyone is main event level then there isn’t really a main event. You need midcarders for there to be main eventers, lower carders for there to be midcarders, etc.
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If it’s always “this time” though, then what’s the point? If everyone is main event level then there isn’t really a main event. You need midcarders for there to be main eventers, lower carders for there to be midcarders, etc.
Let's give it a few weeks. I see the point you are trying to make but AEW is "giving the guys a chance" in these early shows. You have to to build the records. After a few weeks and the records are more developed, we will see a more defined top middle and undercard.
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Really good hour of wrestling.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:45 PM   #92
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I enjoyed that hour, because I wanted to believe what they were doing. The Ten Pounds of Gold felt like it mattered, and that's something you don't get much in WWE. It was the focus of the show, as well it should be.

Eli Drake needs to find his own voice (and not the Rock's), but he feels like a star. Wild Card's bit with Kingston and Homicide felt like an interesting program start and then there's the wild swing to Jocephus and James Storm brawling. And they put exactly the amount of people in that they needed to. No extraneous talent, no getting all your shit in, and most amazingly, NO DIVES! There was some outside in moves, but no one went to the floor. And no one needed to.

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I liked this show a hell of a lot more than I thought I would going in. Something about it just feels right.
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According to TheWrap, around 22% of the total watch time for NWA's new show on Youtube came from people who also watched the debut episode of AEW Dark.

Pretty much means NWA is a very nice lead-in to AEW's Dark show and there is a sizable cross-over between both audiences on Youtube.

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As of noon ET Wednesday, “NWA Powerrr | Episode 1” landed 144,000 YouTube viewers. Of the more than 2 million minutes watched, 22.1% of them came over as suggested viewing from those watching the series premiere of fellow pro-wrestling program “AEW Dark,” NWA Vice President David Lagana told TheWrap exclusively.

“NWA Powerrr” began at 6:05 p.m. ET yesterday, leading the “All Elite Wrestling” YouTube show in some ways and following it in others.
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I would really like to know who is the target as far as TV networks? If MLW is getting enough money to sign workers to legit contacts from the really low level BeINsports then I wonder who would throw some money for the NWA to keep doing what they did at the first tapings? Viceland? They love wrestling there. That would be my pick.
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Actually, that really should be the deal they go for. Corgan the music, Viceland the music... it would be a relationship I could see making a lot of sense. Viceland has a it's of demo of viewer that would probably be into this Powerrr product.
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I would really like to know who is the target as far as TV networks? If MLW is getting enough money to sign workers to legit contacts from the really low level BeINsports then I wonder who would throw some money for the NWA to keep doing what they did at the first tapings? Viceland? They love wrestling there. That would be my pick.
Maybe a low tier network like POP TV since the market for wrestling is still pretty weak unless you have great connections in the tv industry.

NWA tried shopping around this show to networks beforehand but got no real buyers which is why its stuck on Youtube.
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I feel you. I so badly wanted to be an MLW mark but the lack of consistency and certain roster choices have made me care less and less. IDK there is just something about MLW that doesn't "feel right". Where as NWA on episode one had so much more going for it. The nostalgia, huge aspect of that. The production was d o p e, from the entrance video to the in-between screen edits... commentary all of that. Promo's are better too.

I go back to MLW from time to time but haven't finished a full show with my full attention on it since probably April.

Actually I think that with AEW, NWA, and Impact someone is going to get "forced out" and I'm looking at ROH or MLW. I don't know if either are in a "bad way" financially, but I can't imagine ROH isn't on a finanical lifeline with Sinclair. I can see MLW doing okay because they can draw a crowd and sell merch and have a tv deal that pays them.
Hmm, MLW seems to be doing fine, but there are sometimes reports that things are "tight." Sinclair can keep ROH alive for as long as they want to, but maybe they won't want to? I've had a feeling that it could get sold for some time now. I just don't know how TNA keeps surviving.

I liked what I watched in MLW, but it just feels a little "inconsequential." What NWA Power did, either intentionally or just subconsciously, was make their little corner feel important and worth being invested in.

MLW had guys I really liked -- Jacob Fatu is a fucking star, baby. But it made me think "I want to see those guys somewhere else."

I want another billionaire to come along and unify the MLW, Impact and ROH rosters and have a serious rasslin' alternative to WWE. To me, AEW is the sports entertainment one with some good pro-wrestling mixed in on top.

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If it’s always “this time” though, then what’s the point? If everyone is main event level then there isn’t really a main event. You need midcarders for there to be main eventers, lower carders for there to be midcarders, etc.
Yeah, I don't mind things being competitive some of the time, but I feel that everyone at every level gets exposed. I'd like someone going long to mean something again. I mean, you should really earn that privilege when you get to a level where people know you can do it.

I don't really care if guys plan out their matches and high spots and all that, but I've got this personal opinion, based on nothing professional obviously, that you should be able to call a match as a long as you can plan one. The only people who should be going twenty minutes are the sorts of guys who can go out there and work twenty minutes from scratch. There are too many guys who would get lost doing rehearsed shit and it takes the "art" out of it for me. And it does a lot of crowds too, because you can feel them getting burnt out, and it's because these are set pieces not wrestling matches.

I remember actually paying money for an EVOLVE show to give them a chance a few years back. I stopped watching and never went back. That's equivalent to a walk-out. I just...couldn't. The first three matches just had guys going back and forth and kicking out of everything. It all felt the same and nothing counted. It gets so fucking exhausting and there's no drama.

I know this is a pretentious rant, lol. It just seems obvious to me that everyone gets to see way too much of everyone's shit and that everything is the same. It could be a real shortcut to getting people over if matches went shorter, had a much more logical and reserved psychology, and the "cool shit" gets busted out for emphasis a lot more rarely.

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I would really like to know who is the target as far as TV networks? If MLW is getting enough money to sign workers to legit contacts from the really low level BeINsports then I wonder who would throw some money for the NWA to keep doing what they did at the first tapings? Viceland? They love wrestling there. That would be my pick.
Viceland seem to trust Cornette, and he's obviously got the ear of Corgan too. It's possible that BeIN might be interested in them too, or AXS or even Sinclair. But there were also rumors that Showtime was looking for "artsy" wrestling when they were in talks with AEW. This may not be aesthetically what they're after, but it might be worth a preliminary chat.

Corgan's got a pretty weird rep, doesn't he? Viacom are an entity that I can always imagine being interested in wrestling/music/a connection between the two. They've got Bellator. Maybe they give them a chance as long as Dixie Carter and/or Russo aren't involved.
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Recap of last week built EMOTION. Getting into it again with this bad ass opening video.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:17 PM   #104
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Actually Tim Storm vs Aaron Stevens would be interesting. Storm is unable to challenge for the NWA Championship anyway. Could be interesting dichotomy with the characters there.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:18 PM   #105
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:20 PM   #106
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Ricky Starks with a helluva promo! Kid's got a silver tongue!
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:28 PM   #107
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MR. Anderson teaming with Colt Cabana is pretty decent.
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Pleasantly surprised.
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Glad to see Brian Hebner again. Had no idea that Cabana is a 2-time NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion.
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I enjoyed week two even more than week one tbh. I'm kind of invested.
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Ricky Starks has something. He reminded me a bit of The Rock.
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Just going to say it, because credit due where credit due: Eli Drake was awesome in his role this week. Sorry, Eli. I can admit it when I’m wrong.
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Waffles & tire irons.
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First of all...

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Waffles & tire irons.
Secondly, I like how the NWA does one thing amazingly well: They make all of their Belts feel very important. Everyone they featured made it a point to say that they want a shot at the National Title or the World Title. And their Singles Champions made it very clear why they held their titles.

I'd rather see Cabana vs. Anderson than Cabana team with Anderson.

Eli Drake felt a bit more authentic here than he did in his first promo, but he's no James Storm.

My buddy who watched the show a little before me said "James Storm is one hell of a promo." And he's right.

Aldis bullying the commentator is funny. I fell like the run up to Camille finally talking will be good.

Ricky Starks has something to him, and he's a star in the making. His match was solid against a veteran like Murdoch, who knew how to make him look like a star. Get him some women drooling all over him, and you've got money.

Aaron Stevens has this weird Lanny Poffo/Kaufman tone to his voice. He got the fans laughing until he got them pissed off at him. I can see him fitting in well.

Only weak part to me was Wild Card vs. Homicide and Kingston. They just didn't click for me. It was decent. Dawsons were the best part of that match.

That was my thoughts on Episode 2. Also, one more thing:

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