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Old 01-07-2022, 09:12 PM   #1
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Impact Knockouts World Champion Mickie James to compete in the 2022 women's Royal Rumble match

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Old 01-07-2022, 09:19 PM   #2
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i just saw her on power tonight wow what a forbidden door impact wrestling has.
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Old 01-07-2022, 09:20 PM   #3
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Mickie unifying all the titles at Wrestlemania CONFIRMED
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Old 01-07-2022, 09:31 PM   #4
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well it'll be enough to get me to tune in i suppose
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Old 01-07-2022, 09:43 PM   #5
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Money heals all apparently. I hope she gets her payroll in a garbage bag
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Old 01-07-2022, 09:47 PM   #6
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Money heals all apparently. I hope she gets her payroll in a garbage bag
yeah wwe realized they fired to many women and needed someone, but nwa and impact would have to agree to it wonder what they got.
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Old 01-08-2022, 10:31 AM   #7
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I bet Charlotte catapults Mickie out within seconds
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Old 01-08-2022, 01:13 PM   #8
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I hope she pulls off a Gail Kim.
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Kinda feels weird this isn’t a topic of more discussion tbh. I have only seen the clip but I had a little giggle at her being noted as Impact champion yet a face in the crowd (with no title belt) on the match graphic.

Interested to see if this becomes a big deal or not.

I also struggle to see who on the means side could come across and be anything more than mid card level in WWE at best. Hard to think this will lead to much more in that way.
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Kinda feels weird this isn’t a topic of more discussion tbh. I have only seen the clip but I had a little giggle at her being noted as Impact champion yet a face in the crowd (with no title belt) on the match graphic.

Interested to see if this becomes a big deal or not.

I also struggle to see who on the means side could come across and be anything more than mid card level in WWE at best. Hard to think this will lead to much more in that way.
It’s a bit stunning, tbh. WWE really doesn’t need to go this far for female talent. This is a deliberate and weird choice. I wonder what’s going on?
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My two thoughts were 1. WWE is buying them out, actually think you said it too Noid. Or 2. Impact has simply fallen off enough now with the rise of AEW that WWE see them more as a third fed they can deal with ala old school ECW.
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Old 01-08-2022, 03:33 PM   #12
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If I were to make a guess, this is Vince McMahon's attempt to make things right with Mickie James after the whole garbage bag debacle. If I'm not wrong, he did reach out to her in private.
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Kinda feels weird this isn’t a topic of more discussion tbh. I have only seen the clip but I had a little giggle at her being noted as Impact champion yet a face in the crowd (with no title belt) on the match graphic.

Interested to see if this becomes a big deal or not.

I also struggle to see who on the means side could come across and be anything more than mid card level in WWE at best. Hard to think this will lead to much more in that way.
i see wwe letting becky going to impact doing 1 set of tapings heeling it up. i would have said flair but they don't trust her going somewhere else.
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My two thoughts were 1. WWE is buying them out, actually think you said it too Noid. Or 2. Impact has simply fallen off enough now with the rise of AEW that WWE see them more as a third fed they can deal with ala old school ECW.
wwe is cutting and getting ready to be sold they don't want impact on there books.
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Old 01-08-2022, 03:42 PM   #15
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My two thoughts were 1. WWE is buying them out, actually think you said it too Noid. Or 2. Impact has simply fallen off enough now with the rise of AEW that WWE see them more as a third fed they can deal with ala old school ECW.
I don’t think I said the first one, but the thought did cross my mind. I’m more in-line with the second one. As a third option, I wonder if this has been spurred on by Anthem to gain more attention for AXS. They just announced a new deal for New Japan, which gives Impact a lot of bargaining power when it comes to having first shots on that talent.

To think that Okada vs. Tanahashi may be more likely in Impact than AEW right now.

It will be interesting to see if they sign any of the recent WWE releases. Imagine if they signed Bray Wyatt, Jeff Hardy, Samoa Joe, William Regal, Braun Strowman, Hit Row, etc. They may be making a real play.

Yesterday I was thinking Jeff Jarrett might try and get all those peeps together to do something. But maybe Anthem beats him to the play?
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Old 01-08-2022, 03:45 PM   #16
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Could just be that WWE said “Fuck it, let’s try something different. That’ll shut Macauley Culkin up.”
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Interesting theory: Let’s say WWE extends an offer to work with AEW. Maybe they want to bring in…Christian. There’s stuff they can do with him and Edge. Let’s get him to work both places, and maybe Daniel Bryan as well.

What does that actually do to AEW? First reaction might be that it gives them exposure, why would WWE do this? But would it actually hurt AEW by killing off their “we’re not them” cred? Would there be a feeling of “selling out?” But could AEW say no to that sort of deal? Is the idea of getting some WWE guys into their stuff too enticing? Especially if the fans know the offer is there.

Alternatively, maybe a working relationship can actually help both companies? It’d certainly make each product more interesting.
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I think you got Noid confused with me because I definitely suggested the possibility of WWE buying Impact out.

As for the people saying they think this is Vince trying to make things right with Mickie James....that's just laughable to me. Of all the people WWE has done dirty why in the hell would Mickie James be the one they try to make things right with? Let's be real....she's nobody. She's not important. She's not and never has been a draw. She is just a run of the mill wrestler. There is about a 0.0000000000001% chance that Vince decided to swing open the forbidden door because he feels bad about how Mickie got treated on the way out. I'm not even sure how bringing her back to job her out to their own people in the Rumble is supposed to be making things up to her.
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Old 01-08-2022, 04:13 PM   #19
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I think you got Noid confused with me because I definitely suggested the possibility of WWE buying Impact out.

As for the people saying they think this is Vince trying to make things right with Mickie James....that's just laughable to me. Of all the people WWE has done dirty why in the hell would Mickie James be the one they try to make things right with? Let's be real....she's nobody. She's not important. She's not and never has been a draw. She is just a run of the mill wrestler. There is about a 0.0000000000001% chance that Vince decided to swing open the forbidden door because he feels bad about how Mickie got treated on the way out. I'm not even sure how bringing her back to job her out to their own people in the Rumble is supposed to be making things up to her.
It probably does feel good for parties on both sides though. No one wants their company to be associated with that, even if it’s for shitty PR reasons, lol. But that shit can be settled with phone calls and over coffee. There’s another reason for this. Maybe it’s just WWE getting experimental?

Remember that time WWE wanted Ric Flair for a Hall of Fame thing, so WWE sent Christian over to Impact? I wonder if they get something in return this time?
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Old 01-08-2022, 04:15 PM   #20
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It could be as simple as Mickie having that freedom with her lack of exclusivity and she reached out to them and they just admired her proactivity.
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Honestly it probably all comes down to "oh poop it is women's rumble time, let's round up the usual 'legends'... you call Kelly Kelly, I'll call Mickie James"
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Alright, I just gave this a proper think through:

I find it interesting this was announced the night before Impact had their PPV. It’s indirectly probably the biggest promotion they’ve gotten in a while. This is where Mickie James is going to have a Texas Deathmatch. WWE can’t (or won’t) promote that sort of thing. But Impact can, and they’ve got two workers in there that might be able to outshine the AEW girls who do that, where it is “special” (if that’s the sort of thing you’re into). And that’s going against the AEW TNT special.

AXS also has a new deal with New Japan. At least part of the reason New Japan left AXS was because Anthem bought AXS and wanted to really push that working agreement between New Japan and Impact. If that deal is back on, it’s quite likely that AXS’s agreement with New Japan is that they can only work with approved partners — which may exclude AEW, but include Impact Wrestling (obviously) and maybe WWE.

The freedom to work New Japan was almost definitely a factor in some guys signing with AEW in the first place. Bryan Danielson and Jon Moxley come to mind. But we also know the freedom is there with Chris Jericho, Omega, The Bucks and I think even Cody Rhodes. Even though it was never a given New Japan would cave to AEW either, if that possibility has been completely removed — at least for as long as New Japan has their AXS deal — that takes away a lot of Tony Khan’s leverage in negotiations. He’s got money, but now he can’t promise the freedom and opportunities he once could.

The restructuring of NXT makes sense. It really does. But unless you are just looking at costs, it doesn’t really mean that WWE can’t still offer a product for the “hardcore fan” in addition to having a developmental show and their main roster rigmarole (which I do genuinely believe they think is superior). But it’s possible that a deal with Impact Wrestling is almost like having an outsourced version of that. Potentially. I haven’t really kept up with the tone of their product.

A lot of the recent WWE releases have great business minds and a lot of experience in a variety of backstage roles. They could be very valuable players in companies that acquire them. But it makes a little more sense to put some of them on the market if you know another company is going to make big plays. It wouldn’t surprise me if there is some “encouragement” for Anthem to pick up a lot of the people WWE has released, and by breaking the bank a bit, and by contrasting themselves to AEW’s bloat, also go after some of the big name free agents out there — Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Jeff Hardy, Samoa Joe and the like. At some point it becomes cost prohibitive, but Anthem isn’t exactly going to go broke. Even if they run at a loss with Impact for a tiny bit, it might still be worth making big pitches to guys and girls, using money and the allure of working New Japan (and maybe even STARDOM, since they are both owned by Bushiroad), which further edges AEW out of talent.

A Toni Storm MAY choose AEW for the money, exposure or because she simply wants to work there. But she MAY choose an Impact Wrestling because she wants to work STARDOM and with her husband. Decisions, decisions.

It’s actually potentially quite a brilliant play. Help Impact out short-term, get them to lock down a New Japan deal, ice AEW out of certain talent relations, disperse the hardcore fan-base.

Imagine this hypothetical edition of Impact Wrestling:

* Your advertised main event is Roman Reigns & The Usos vs. Moose & The Good Brothers (surreal and unlikely, but whatever).

* Kazuchika Okada and Hiroshi Tanahashi open the show. They go about 30 minutes, great match, watch New Japan on AXS.

* An X-Division match, maybe even an Ultimate X to crown a #1 Contender.

* Jeff Hardy is announced by Impact Commissioner, William Regal as their newest signing. He gladhands with the fans. Samoa Joe (at Regal’s side) grabs a mic and says he was against this. Jeff squanders opportunity after opportunity and a guy like Joe who has worked to be trusted enough to be put in this position has to watch someone soak up Impact’s resources when there are young talent who just killed themselves to earn a shot they wouldn’t piss away. Jeff says he’s had his demons but that’s the price to pay when you are wired like him. Joe deals with his burdens one way, Jeff another. Jeff challenges Joe and Joe tells him he doesn’t want to wait for Jeff to burn another bridge. They’re doing this next week to kick off Impact.

* A Women’s Title match between Mickie James and Deonna Purrazzo finally sees Deonna beat Mickie for the Women’s Title.

* A new Hit Row diss track drops. They’ve got a match next week.

* Something, something, something with your regular Impact guys. Maybe a squash match and some promos.

* The main event goes to a double disqualification when things get too loose and egos get out of control. The lights go out and The Wyatt Family — Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman and Erick Rowan — hit the ring and beat down EVERYONE. See you next week!

How epic would that be?

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I think that + WWE doesn't have 30 active female wrestlers on the main roster.
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Man, no further news on this story? WWE doesn’t even have to do anything more than what they’re doing with Mickie James, I bet. Didn’t cost them anything more than Mickie James’ appearance fee and now AEW has had their own “Forbidden Door” slammed in their face. Tony shouldn’t have made that whiny promo about Nick Khan. He seems like the sort of fucker who would get even.
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Kelly Kelly is still only 34. Crazy.
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Alright, I just gave this a proper think through:

I find it interesting this was announced the night before Impact had their PPV. It’s indirectly probably the biggest promotion they’ve gotten in a while. This is where Mickie James is going to have a Texas Deathmatch. WWE can’t (or won’t) promote that sort of thing. But Impact can, and they’ve got two workers in there that might be able to outshine the AEW girls who do that, where it is “special” (if that’s the sort of thing you’re into). And that’s going against the AEW TNT special.

AXS also has a new deal with New Japan. At least part of the reason New Japan left AXS was because Anthem bought AXS and wanted to really push that working agreement between New Japan and Impact. If that deal is back on, it’s quite likely that AXS’s agreement with New Japan is that they can only work with approved partners — which may exclude AEW, but include Impact Wrestling (obviously) and maybe WWE.

The freedom to work New Japan was almost definitely a factor in some guys signing with AEW in the first place. Bryan Danielson and Jon Moxley come to mind. But we also know the freedom is there with Chris Jericho, Omega, The Bucks and I think even Cody Rhodes. Even though it was never a given New Japan would cave to AEW either, if that possibility has been completely removed — at least for as long as New Japan has their AXS deal — that takes away a lot of Tony Khan’s leverage in negotiations. He’s got money, but now he can’t promise the freedom and opportunities he once could.

The restructuring of NXT makes sense. It really does. But unless you are just looking at costs, it doesn’t really mean that WWE can’t still offer a product for the “hardcore fan” in addition to having a developmental show and their main roster rigmarole (which I do genuinely believe they think is superior). But it’s possible that a deal with Impact Wrestling is almost like having an outsourced version of that. Potentially. I haven’t really kept up with the tone of their product.

A lot of the recent WWE releases have great business minds and a lot of experience in a variety of backstage roles. They could be very valuable players in companies that acquire them. But it makes a little more sense to put some of them on the market if you know another company is going to make big plays. It wouldn’t surprise me if there is some “encouragement” for Anthem to pick up a lot of the people WWE has released, and by breaking the bank a bit, and by contrasting themselves to AEW’s bloat, also go after some of the big name free agents out there — Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Jeff Hardy, Samoa Joe and the like. At some point it becomes cost prohibitive, but Anthem isn’t exactly going to go broke. Even if they run at a loss with Impact for a tiny bit, it might still be worth making big pitches to guys and girls, using money and the allure of working New Japan (and maybe even STARDOM, since they are both owned by Bushiroad), which further edges AEW out of talent.

A Toni Storm MAY choose AEW for the money, exposure or because she simply wants to work there. But she MAY choose an Impact Wrestling because she wants to work STARDOM and with her husband. Decisions, decisions.

It’s actually potentially quite a brilliant play. Help Impact out short-term, get them to lock down a New Japan deal, ice AEW out of certain talent relations, disperse the hardcore fan-base.

Imagine this hypothetical edition of Impact Wrestling:

* Your advertised main event is Roman Reigns & The Usos vs. Moose & The Good Brothers (surreal and unlikely, but whatever).

* Kazuchika Okada and Hiroshi Tanahashi open the show. They go about 30 minutes, great match, watch New Japan on AXS.

* An X-Division match, maybe even an Ultimate X to crown a #1 Contender.

* Jeff Hardy is announced by Impact Commissioner, William Regal as their newest signing. He gladhands with the fans. Samoa Joe (at Regal’s side) grabs a mic and says he was against this. Jeff squanders opportunity after opportunity and a guy like Joe who has worked to be trusted enough to be put in this position has to watch someone soak up Impact’s resources when there are young talent who just killed themselves to earn a shot they wouldn’t piss away. Jeff says he’s had his demons but that’s the price to pay when you are wired like him. Joe deals with his burdens one way, Jeff another. Jeff challenges Joe and Joe tells him he doesn’t want to wait for Jeff to burn another bridge. They’re doing this next week to kick off Impact.

* A Women’s Title match between Mickie James and Deonna Purrazzo finally sees Deonna beat Mickie for the Women’s Title.

* A new Hit Row diss track drops. They’ve got a match next week.

* Something, something, something with your regular Impact guys. Maybe a squash match and some promos.

* The main event goes to a double disqualification when things get too loose and egos get out of control. The lights go out and The Wyatt Family — Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman and Erick Rowan — hit the ring and beat down EVERYONE. See you next week!

How epic would that be?

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Dunno man, that’s a lot of Impact pushing some other company’s talent. Some people could criticise them for that…
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That wouldn’t be something Impact would do, right?
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Man, no further news on this story? WWE doesn’t even have to do anything more than what they’re doing with Mickie James, I bet.



Lock Jaw and Slik with the actual "story".
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Lock Jaw and Slik with the actual "story".
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They don’t need Mickie James to fill out a Rumble. They’ve already got 19 people announced, and that’s without Becky, Alexa, Liv, Naomi, Sonya, Beth, Maryse or anyone from the NXT side of things. Toxic Attraction, Cora Jade, Dakota Kai, Raquel Gonzalez, Kay Lee Ray, Io Shirai and Zoey Starks are 9 people right there. Then you’ve got your Layla’s, Victoria’s, Torrie Wilson’s, etc. Molly Holly works for the company and will be there. What about actually including Sara Amato in the match one year as a nice little moment for her? That’s without the possibility of Asuka returning.

I just listed like 20 people, none of them any more outlandish than Mickie James from Impact Wrestling.
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I think Anthem have locked AEW out of New Japan. AXS housing New Japan probably means that they will be the preferred (maybe exclusive?) partners of New Japan in the US. The freedom to work NJPW was a big part of the leverage Tony Khan would use to sign people. Jon Moxley and Bryan Danielson definitely on that list. But many more have the freedom written into their contract, which could be entirely null and void now.

A guy like Danielson now has to choose between working with AEW because he really wants to work specifically there, and working with someone else if he wants New Japan dates. I find it interesting this thing with Impact was announced the week that New Japan announced the AXS deal. That didn’t happen overnight, and who knows how long the WWE/Impact stuff was brewing for, and what was used as leverage with who?
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Let’s say Bryan Danielson had a six-month reevaluation clause written into his contract, where if he feels like he isn’t get out of it what he wants, or even if AEW isn’t getting out of it what they want, either side can walk away, everyone still stays friends, no one is locked in, etc. We’ve heard Danielson talk about contracts and being able to cancel yours if your employer can, and I think we’ve had probation periods offered in some recent deals towards talent to try and get them to stay with WWE (FTR come to mind?). If, just for precautionary reasons, Danielson has a 6-month grace period where he doesn’t have to commit to anything he won’t feel shitty about walking on, then those 6 months are probably up around March.

PURELY SPECULATIVE. No shit. But is that insane? Especially if you are the sort of guy Danielson is (and his apparent lack of certainty about his ability to keep up in AEW and even just to walk away from WWE).

Now let’s say that Danielson also REALLY wants to work with New Japan. Big stretch, right? But if AXS has a 4-year deal with New Japan, Danielson might be 45 before he can ever wrestle for them if he stays with AEW. If he calls it after 2 years, or however long his deal might be, then that’s still a lot of time, bumps and changes between him now and then. But if he’s coming up to the end of a probationary period with AEW? He can walk away with whatever guilt he feels from that and end up a free agent by WrestleMania time.

JUST SPECULATION. I don’t want to get accused of making up a narrative or anything. But what about that is ridiculous? The part where Anthem wants the promotions it gives whatever exposure they’ve got to work with their approved properties or Danielson having some sort of fail-safe written into his contract?
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More speculation: Let’s say the WWE wanted to release a bunch more talent, but there have been people they don’t want to cut because they just don’t want to see them end up in AEW. Not that it’s a major risk, but it’s just those annoying optics, and them being able to sign whoever WWE doesn’t want. Or does want sometimes, but doesn’t want to pay $850 a year to be a warm body.

In a situation where WWE and Impact work together, WWE can fire these guys, save several million, but the idea of working Impact becomes more appealing to the talent because they can work New Japan and ALSO have the potential to work with the WWE for certain shows, tours, etc.

Can you think of anyone in the WWE that might be making a fair bit of money for a mid-card role that WWE may want for European or Japanese tours but they don’t want to cut them just to see them working Danielson on TBS in front of 1 million people?
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Apparently there's talk of a male entrant from another company.

I 100% believe it's Moose
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You know a few people, lol. Have you heard something or are you just going on pure intuition there?

I thought there may be another outside surprise. Thought about Nick Aldis, but that’s just because he’s Mickie’s husband and will probably be there at the show, lol. After thinking about it for a bit, I thought there might be a New Japan guy in the Men’s Rumble, or a STARDOM wrestler in the women’s one. That sort of thing.
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If you’re WWE and you want to do your best to disrupt this “wrestler’s market,” finding a way to ice the AEW/New Japan relationship is quite a brilliant but obvious way to do it. Put talent that want to work in the position where if they want to work New Japan, they’ve got to work with an Impact or even a revived ROH. If it gets them into bidding wars with AEW, so be it. But $400 for a WWE wrestler’s US work, plus whatever they make in Japan on top of that might be comparable to the deal offered by Tony Khan in the end.

If guys REALLY want to work New Japan, force them to work for companies for smaller salaries, but if the choice is between them and the WWE, that means WWE can come at them with $600 per year and have a good shot. TK can still pay WAY more than that, but without Japan he may not have the prestige to really have those deals taken seriously. At least not in every case.
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WWE is in the midst of finding their own athletes who don’t give a fuck about wrestling to mould into the stars of tomorrow. What do they care about the market for these indie wrestling NERDS?
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You know a few people, lol. Have you heard something or are you just going on pure intuition there?

I thought there may be another outside surprise. Thought about Nick Aldis, but that’s just because he’s Mickie’s husband and will probably be there at the show, lol. After thinking about it for a bit, I thought there might be a New Japan guy in the Men’s Rumble, or a STARDOM wrestler in the women’s one. That sort of thing.

Pure intuition. The same intuition that brought you "Damian Sandow will be the first to cash in his MITB and lose" as well as "Percy Watson will be the #2 wrestler in the company"

You win some, you lose some lol
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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner View Post
Pure intuition. The same intuition that brought you "Damian Sandow will be the first to cash in his MITB and lose" as well as "Percy Watson will be the #2 wrestler in the company"

You win some, you lose some lol
Hahaha! We all loved Percy Watson in NXT Season 2.
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