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Old 09-17-2016, 07:38 PM   #28801
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WWE rumored to have made a bid to purchase or be the new owner of TNA.

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WWE and Sinclair Broadcast Group, owner of the Ring of Honor wrestling organization, are rumored to have made recent bids.

A complicated ownership structure also poses challenges in getting every stakeholder on the same page. In addition to majority owner and Chairwoman Dixie Carter, Corgan, Aroluxe Marketing and Canada’s Fight Network all have equity stakes.

Meanwhile, the Nashville, Tenn.-based company is so financially strapped that investor and working-capital provider Aroluxe has reportedly taken over its “TNA” (Total Nonstop Action) trademark.

Corgan says the relevant parties have agreed on a sale price. Although he can’t reveal the figure, an estimate based on publicly traded WWE’s market value of two times revenue would put it at around $40 million.
According to the Observer, the real value of TNA is more like $4 million and not $40 million. For some reference, WWE bought WCW for a little over $2 million and ECW for around a million.

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Old 09-17-2016, 08:05 PM   #28802
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I'll give them my weekly pay of $2,100.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:06 PM   #28803
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Nah then you'd be what you hate the most: a minority owner.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:10 PM   #28804
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WWE rumored to have made a bid to purchase or be the new owner of TNA.

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WWE and Sinclair Broadcast Group, owner of the Ring of Honor wrestling organization, are rumored to have made recent bids.

A complicated ownership structure also poses challenges in getting every stakeholder on the same page. In addition to majority owner and Chairwoman Dixie Carter, Corgan, Aroluxe Marketing and Canada’s Fight Network all have equity stakes.

Meanwhile, the Nashville, Tenn.-based company is so financially strapped that investor and working-capital provider Aroluxe has reportedly taken over its “TNA” (Total Nonstop Action) trademark.

Corgan says the relevant parties have agreed on a sale price. Although he can’t reveal the figure, an estimate based on publicly traded WWE’s market value of two times revenue would put it at around $40 million.
According to the Observer, the real value of TNA is more like $4 million and not $40 million. For some reference, WWE bought WCW for a little over $2 million and ECW for around a million.

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Old 09-17-2016, 08:17 PM   #28805
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$40 Million is kind of a crazy number. I'd say WWE wouldn't spend anymore than $5-8 million for it. It's been reported Dixie wants $4million for her remaining 70%.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:46 PM   #28806
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I'd argue TNA is worth more to WWE for the back catalog of matches they could upload to the network highlighting half of the NXT rosters past lol
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:14 PM   #28807
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:54 PM   #28808
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Old 09-17-2016, 10:43 PM   #28809
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Really intrigued by this TNA news. Probably know something by Bound for Glory as they'll have tapings after that they probably can't afford.

WWE buying them would be great as it would get a decent tape library. Probably wouldn't want a lot of the talent but could pick through who they wanted. They talked about wanting another NXT type promotion so maybe WWE just uses it for that. Like I said feel like the X Division would fit right in to NXT(I can see the yellow belt now) and would be a great mid card title for NXT.

ROH buying them would be cool as well. Sinclair could run them as TNA or merge them with ROH. Merger would probably be best so Ring of Honor could take that next step. They would add a lot of depth to the roster and beef up there main event scene.

Corgan getting full control wouldn't be bad either but is probably the option I would least like to see. He's came in and out some life into the product and is trying some different things like the Impact Grand Championship. He seems to have a vision and really wants to turn TNA around. Most definitely seems like Dixie Carter is out so that's a positive either way it goes.
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Old 09-17-2016, 10:54 PM   #28810
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$40 million for TNA is absurd. It's lucky to be worth 1/4 of that.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:39 AM   #28811
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Yeah, I don't think I would even pay $5,000,000 for TNA at this point.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:43 AM   #28812
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The 40 is rumored to be debt not value.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:48 AM   #28813
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No it's not, they took that estimate from WWEs revenue and it had nothing to do with TNAs actual value.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:59 AM   #28814
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Kevin Sullivan had nothing to do with Lethal/Cole, he's only been involved with the Corino/Whitmer/Punisher Martinez angle.

Kevin Kelly is already part of the creative team, and is basically starting to take over for Delirious as he gains more responsibility.

And Ivory in late 2016 is not an eye opener. She was never good to begin with and hasn't wrestled in ten years. How would she be worthy of pushing? Everyone talks about how signing WWE rejects doesn't help... you want to bring in Ivory to help ROH????
How do you know? Sullivan has hinted on his podcast that he's been interacting backstage with a lot of the guys. It could just be him and MSL putting him over, but the shaving of the hair thing is very Sullivan-esque.

I didn't know that about Kevin Kelly. Thanks for sharing that. It's a shame you ruin it by completely not understanding what I was saying about Ivory. If English is not your first language, I apologize.

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...What does Ivory know about booking...
I don't know, honestly. But you do realize that wrestlers used to book wrestling, right? I picked her out because I was thinking of women that are knowledgeable about the business and have ring experience because I'd like to see a woman in charge. Ivory once out-worked Triple H in wrestler's court. She's always come off as a woman who knows what she is doing and has been able to take her ego out of things -- see how she did her best to put Chyna over -- and because of how she has spoken about Triple H in the past, I don't think she's at risk of jumping ship the moment she gets any traction (if that did happen).
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:03 AM   #28815
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If that Fabian Aichner? He looked like the next Randy Orton in the CWC.
Nah. This guy is 6'7. Dan Matha is his name. He's a former football player, but he actually sought training himself though, starting in OVW. He recently cut a promo at an NXT house show where he allegedly came off as being quite confident on the mic and in front of a crowd.

He'd be a long way off, but if he's a natural, his size and look should give him an edge over guys that look like they're off the street.
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:08 AM   #28816
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How do you know? Sullivan has hinted on his podcast that he's been interacting backstage with a lot of the guys. It could just be him and MSL putting him over, but the shaving of the hair thing is very Sullivan-esque.

I didn't know that about Kevin Kelly. Thanks for sharing that. It's a shame you ruin it by completely not understanding what I was saying about Ivory. If English is not your first language, I apologize.



I don't know, honestly. But you do realize that wrestlers used to book wrestling, right? I picked her out because I was thinking of women that are knowledgeable about the business and have ring experience because I'd like to see a woman in charge. Ivory once out-worked Triple H in wrestler's court. She's always come off as a woman who knows what she is doing and has been able to take her ego out of things -- see how she did her best to put Chyna over -- and because of how she has spoken about Triple H in the past, I don't think she's at risk of jumping ship the moment she gets any traction (if that did happen).
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:09 AM   #28817
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Yeah, I don't think I would even pay $5,000,000 for TNA at this point.
Lol, funny you say that -- Dave Meltzer said the real worth is about $4,000,000.

This seems out of character for "I wish to god there was a real alternative" me, but I'd actually like to see TNA purchased by the WWE. The success of AJ Styles and Bobby Roode has made me think that TNA was at least useful for giving some of these guys experience. I'm not sure if the WWE would keep TNA open as a sort of feeder promotion, as I'm sure they'd likely just fold it, but there is some talent worth plucking.

ROH purchasing it would be interesting. Something seems...bland about ROH at the moment. It might help them to have access to stars like Jeff Hardy and Bobby Lashley. If you put the ROH and TNA rosters together, you do end up with something looking really good.
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:12 AM   #28818
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Old 09-18-2016, 03:50 AM   #28819
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:58 AM   #28820
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Old 09-18-2016, 06:15 AM   #28821
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The 40 is rumored to be debt not value.
There's no way they are $40 mill in debt, if they were, they'd have taken tons of short-term loans to pay off talent and there'd never be rumors of late payments.
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Random Hillary Clinton reference by JR. Was she topical at that point in time?

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Old 09-18-2016, 07:52 AM   #28823
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Weird to see Kevin Nash putting over Test for some reason. I don't know why.
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Old 09-18-2016, 08:18 AM   #28824
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I've not been enjoying RAW lately, but I'm actually intrigued to see Clash of Champions. I think the card is shaping up to be really interesting:

* Owens vs. Rollins
* Jericho vs. Zayn
* Reigns vs. Rusev
* Charlotte vs. Sasha
* New Day vs. Gallows & Anderson
* Bayley vs. Dana Brooke?
* Cruiserweight match
* Enzo & Cass vs. Shining Stars

From an in-ring perspective, that should be a varied and fun show. I'm also curious to see how it stacks up against Backlash. Given that RAW and SmackDown air different nights and have a different duration, I'm not sure how much "competition" there is between the two shows, but I can imagine there being some creative tension when it comes to just how the PPVs deliver proportionately in terms of response and the number of times they get viewed on the Network.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:04 AM   #28825
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Who else would be intrigued by an Undertaker vs. Luke Harper program heading into WrestleMania next year?
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:15 AM   #28826
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:31 AM   #28827
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Who else would be intrigued by an Undertaker vs. Luke Harper program heading into WrestleMania next year?
You are reading my mind. I was on board with this for years. As a way to set him up as a separate entity from Wyatt.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:28 PM   #28828
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I guess it would make Harper stand out. But he would probably lose and it would lead nowhere. Also, I just can't get into Taker at WrestleMania now. As long as he had the streak he could get brought out in a wheelchair and the match would have a big fight feel and I'd be into it for the potential iconic moment. Now I couldn't care less.
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:34 PM   #28829
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Weird to see Kevin Nash putting over Test for some reason. I don't know why.
I remember back in the 90's beating someone like Nash would be a big thing.

Test beating Nash in 2003 didn't really seem a big deal. I didn't even know it happened until I saw that video just now.
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Old 09-18-2016, 02:16 PM   #28830
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Who else would be intrigued by an Undertaker vs. Luke Harper program heading into WrestleMania next year?
I would enjoy that but I'd prefer to see Undertaker vs AJ Styles tbh. He's one of the last guys that can send Taker off in style, though Cena could be good for Taker as well.

I think Harper vs Strowman or Harper vs Wyatt would be dope.
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Old 09-18-2016, 02:34 PM   #28831
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Until I hear different I assume Taker is retired.
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Old 09-18-2016, 03:33 PM   #28832
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Random Hillary Clinton reference by JR. Was she topical at that point in time?
She had just released her autobiography around that time.
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Old 09-18-2016, 03:35 PM   #28833
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Was that around the time she was running for Senate?
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:32 PM   #28834
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Don't wanna see Undertaker anywhere near Wrestlemania anymore. Having AJ Styles face him at Wrestlemania 33 would be a waste of AJ Styles.
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:39 PM   #28835
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Feel like if I was 10 years old I would still find this stupid...



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Old 09-18-2016, 05:40 PM   #28836
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Old 09-18-2016, 06:52 PM   #28837
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They need to do Taker vs Cena at WM33 and let him ride off into the sunset.
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Old 09-18-2016, 06:54 PM   #28838
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Old 09-18-2016, 07:12 PM   #28840
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Ride, you say?

Rapper Cena vs Biker Taker only
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