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Old 09-19-2015, 01:25 PM   #19401
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Yes, as in JR actually making the call.

And lol at "He's older than Vince than when Vince wonthe title". Clearly Vince and Sting are comparable.
Age wise, ya they are.
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:06 PM   #19402
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Which is superfluous in the context of the conversation. You asked how Sting being older brings prestige to a title Vince won at a younger age, which is irrelevant. One is a wrestler, who's career spanned decades, won multiple world titles and is billed as a legend. The other is an announcer turned evil owner who won on a fluke. Their age has nothing to do with any perceived prestige they may or may not bring to a title.
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:19 PM   #19403
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Age wise, ya they are.
Their characters roles in the company are entirely different as well as the circumstances surrounding them.
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Old 09-19-2015, 03:30 PM   #19404
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It just occurred to me that they should have booked Sting/Cena/Rollins like they did Benoit/Jericho/Angle at WM 16 when Angle was the EuroContinental Champion, first fall for the IC title second fir the European.
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Old 09-19-2015, 03:50 PM   #19405
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That's actually a stellar idea. I'd be open to having Rollins retain tomorrow night and then go into next month's ppv in a triple threat with both belts on the line.

Though I'm doubtful he will, if Sting did win tomorrow night but Rollins holds onto the US title, you could book Cena/Rollins/Sting with the US belt on the line in the first fall and the World title in the second.
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Old 09-19-2015, 05:23 PM   #19406
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No doubt. Sting would be a bigger joke as champion than Vince was given their roles
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Old 09-19-2015, 05:25 PM   #19407
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Which is superfluous in the context of the conversation. You asked how Sting being older brings prestige to a title Vince won at a younger age, which is irrelevant. One is a wrestler, who's career spanned decades, won multiple world titles and is billed as a legend. The other is an announcer turned evil owner who won on a fluke. Their age has nothing to do with any perceived prestige they may or may not bring to a title.
Clearly you don't understand the business
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Old 09-19-2015, 05:45 PM   #19408
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Says the guy comparing Vince McMahon with Sting.
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Old 09-19-2015, 07:47 PM   #19409
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:08 PM   #19410
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:30 PM   #19411
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:29 PM   #19412
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No doubt. Sting would be a bigger joke as champion than Vince was given their roles
I'm inclined to agree with this. It has nothing to do with their ages though, which was my point.
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Old 09-19-2015, 10:40 PM   #19413
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Old 09-19-2015, 10:44 PM   #19414
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Old 09-19-2015, 10:49 PM   #19415
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Old 09-20-2015, 12:26 AM   #19416
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At the San Jose, CA Wizard World Comic Con, Paige participated in a Q&A session with fans. During the event, Paige talked about picking her battles with creative, what she would do if she was in charge of the Divas Revolution, and who she would want as a tag team partner.

Paige claimed that she picks her battles with creative and said it can be frustrating. Paige gave the examples of being put in a 5-on-1 situation at Survivor Series and the Submission Sorority name as times when she spoke up against creative and they did not listen to her ...

Paige said she also told creative that the Submission Sorority name was a bad idea.

"I said to a couple of the writers, I was like, 'dude, Submission Sorority? Don't let children Google that. So we have to, like, change it.' And they were like, 'oh, we'll speak with Vince [McMahon] at some point.' And, I'm like, 'okay'. And then I see we get called the Submission Sorority on RAW the next day, there are millions of people watching, and then suddenly people are like, 'oh great, you're in a porn group'."
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...t-shed-change/

Seems like Paige is starting to have the same problems Katlyn, AJ, and other women wrestles had when it came with Creative (and management).
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Old 09-20-2015, 02:24 AM   #19417
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:30 AM   #19418
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Seems like Paige is starting to have the same problems Katlyn, AJ, and other women wrestles had when it came with Creative (and management).
Another example of the people at the top of the company being completely out of touch. I would highly recommend listening to Jericho's podcast with the New Day, which really highlights what CM Punk said about Vince having no clue what he's doing.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:37 AM   #19419
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The New Day podcast also makes me worry that someone like Vince or Kevin Dunn is going to squash their momentum. You know because of the whole going out and making something for themselves.
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Old 09-20-2015, 10:21 AM   #19420
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The New Day podcast also makes me worry that someone like Vince or Kevin Dunn is going to squash their momentum. You know because of the whole going out and making something for themselves.
they best leave New day the hell alone
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:12 AM   #19421
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New Day is mere weeks away from being mishandled.

Unless it was "the plan from the beginning" to send them out there as faces with such a bad gimmick that the fans would turn them heel. They'd then be such entertaining heels that the crowd get behind them and "Hey presto!", New Day are faces just like Vince planned.

It's some Inception-level stuff.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:38 AM   #19422
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Says the guy comparing Vince McMahon with Sting.
You did see the match when Vince "won" the title right?

If Sting wins in that same manner, i'm perfectly fine with it.

Its one thing to just look up wikipedia to get some facts to back up your arguement, but you make a better case when you understand the context behind what happened. Maybe after a couple rounds of discussing the business with me you will become more educated. Gonna take some time though clearly.
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Old 09-20-2015, 01:54 PM   #19423
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Don't use facts for arguments guys. You heard it here. You must know the business and that clearly means a pro wrestler who's been active since the 80s and an announcer turned evil owner are comparable. I've seen the light.
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Old 09-20-2015, 02:31 PM   #19424
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:03 PM   #19426
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I'm not talking about the quality of the product, I'm talking about what internet fans consider the "prestige" of the titles.

I guarantee, every single title in the WWE from this day forward will always be spoken about in the context of comparing it to it's "former glories", or how it can "regain it's prestige" or some other nonsense. There will never, ever be a day when internet fans will be happy and say how prestigious any specific title is.

Not anymore.
I disagree, just because I recently gave a crap about the US Title.
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Okay, you're right. Its more like you pick up a book that you enjoyed for a while, then stopped enjoying, then skipped a whole bunch of pages, read 5 pages and went "I dont like it" and put it back down.

Its fine to do that, just doesnt mean you can have an opinion on current storylines because you are not following close enough. My guess is you are lying and you watch every week like the rest of us, and dont admit it. Its cool though, I still like you.
It's sort of the WWE's job to make people care about their product though. That Maluco doesn't want to watch is sort of the point, bro...
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That's all I'm going to say to CyNick at this point, because he's just being ridiculous for the sake of it, I think. Not worth it's own thread either.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:15 PM   #19429
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I keep flipping on what I think the WWE will do with the belts at Night of Champions. I'm thinking they might have Sting help Cena win the US Title to get him some pops (because they think Sting needs to be shined up for his spot) and then Rollins beats Sting, but it's really tricky to call. Really don't care as much as I would if this were Rollins, WCW fan during the late 90's, inspired by Sting, but realized that guys like Sting that have a problem with authority lack power and kilelr instinct vs. Sting, vigilante and justice-bringer, all-consumed with loosening Rollins' corrupt grasp on the WWE Title. You know, as opposed to two guys who care more about statues or making Triple H smile.

Does anyone else feel weird when they talk about Sting going after the "one title that eluded him" like I do? If he wanted the WWE Title so badly, why didn't he come to WWE? Seems like he should be trying to win the belt to prove that he could have been the World Heavyweight Champion anywhere at any point in time.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:15 PM   #19430
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Paige comes off as really bratty in that interview about creative.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:53 PM   #19431
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I disagree, just because I recently gave a crap about the US Title.
I too, especially when Cena was doing his open challenge. But caring about the title recently because of the quality of the matches, won't change the fact that people will always have this mentality of "restoring it to it's former glory".

None of the titles have ever lost any of their prestige in my opinion.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:18 PM   #19432
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It's sort of the WWE's job to make people care about their product though. That Maluco doesn't want to watch is sort of the point, bro...
Their business keeps getting bigger though. So just because one person leaves, doesnt mean its in the tank.

Especially when that someone watches every month
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:19 PM   #19433
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That's all I'm going to say to CyNick at this point, because he's just being ridiculous for the sake of it, I think. Not worth it's own thread either.
how am I being ridiculous? Differences of opinion are good for a place like this, no?

Besides, you guys begged me to come back. Not the other way around.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:05 PM   #19434
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Watched last weeks NXT, Dana Brooke is really coming along. Think she'll be the next breakout star after Bailey.
Just need to learn to tone down the constant posing.... She was getting better at it, but then the last time she had a match she did the pose like seven times in a row during her entrance....
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Old 09-20-2015, 10:40 PM   #19435
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Yeah all those poses get really old quickly, and on the main roster only like 1% of the live audience will even see it.
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Old 09-21-2015, 02:33 AM   #19436
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Just saw a commercial on TV for "The Mark Madden Show", and I was like WTF... then I realized that I do live/work close enough to Pittsburgh for that to be an actual thing without it being national in any way.
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:32 AM   #19437
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:11 PM   #19439
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:18 PM   #19440
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