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Old 05-31-2019, 11:11 PM   #121
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I thought Gene Simmons claimed higher numbers than Wilt Chamberlain. Now I find out he's a transvestite from Jim Cornette.

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Old 05-31-2019, 11:34 PM   #122
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Consider Kiss and his boyfriend were upset over it, I'd consider it to be one in this case. Several of Kiss' co-workers in AEW also felt similar in Cornette crossing the line.

Cornette was specifically attacking Kiss' sexuality with his rant when he was complaining about stuff in the Battle Royal match.
How was he attacking Kiss' sexuality in the Battle Royal comments?

I agree that if Kiss was upset by it, then Cornette should clarify that he insulted Kiss because he's a shitty wrestler and not because of who he inherently is as a human being, but I thought that was very obvious listening to actual podcast instead of second-hand distortions on Twitter.

Like, Kiss' statement was something like "I've been out since childhood, so this 'attack' failed." It's not my place to tell Kiss whether or not being told he looks like a transvestite/exotico in his gear, that seems specifically designed to appear that way, offends him, but it seems pretty clear to me that he didn't actually regard the actual statements made by Cornette, considering Corny never once made a reference to sexuality. Like...at all. Unless I am missing something really egregious? Thought it was all about how Sonny was presenting himself/was presented for the Battle Royal.

This reminds me of when everybody in WWE jumped on Meltzer for commenting on WWE's preference for surgically enhanced women with his comments re: Peyton Royce. Meltzer handled that way better (arguably better than he even needed to), but my god are people in the wrestling industry stupid sometimes. If Royce spent five minutes thinking about it, she would probably have understood that the guy criticizing the company that takes giant lump sums cash from the Saudi goverment and "suggests" their women get breast implants is probably not the one with impossible beauty standards.
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:45 PM   #123
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Lol, the Experience is going to be awesome this week. Brian Last not only dug up the Joey Ryan pedophile portrait, but a rape joke he made on Twitter too.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:05 AM   #124
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Lol, the Experience is going to be awesome this week. Brian Last not only dug up the Joey Ryan pedophile portrait, but a rape joke he made on Twitter too.
Also dug up him using the N word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:09 AM   #125
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I’d pay to see Cornette vs Joey Ryan at some indy show
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:13 AM   #126
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I would much rather see Joey Ryan in there with Brock Lesnar.
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I should clarify: In this scenario, Ryan tried to make Sable touch his dick first.
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Sonny Kiss looked fucking ridiculous in that battle royal. He kept pulling Dreamer’s face into his ass for comedic purposes because “lolgayness”. That was clearly the whole purpose of the spot.
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Sonny Kiss looked fucking ridiculous in that battle royal. He kept pulling Dreamer’s face into his ass for comedic purposes because “lolgayness”. That was clearly the whole purpose of the spot.
Oh yeah, there's that too.

You know, just the most obvious thing that my tangential nature skirted around.
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Don’t be a caricature if you don’t want the obvious pointed out. The man can shout that he’s gay from the rooftop but if he’s gonna go out of his way to be a gay wrestling gimmick stereotype when he wrestles then it’s gonna come up occasionally.
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Is Sonny Kiss the first ever transgender wrestler? Doesn't look good for a company that is trying to be for everybody/banning transphobic fans.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:31 AM   #132
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I'm struggling to figure out why people are pissy about what Cornette said about Sonny Kiss other than certain people dislike Cornette so they'll jump on anything he says.

All Cornette said was, why are they presenting this over the top Exotico type wrestler with zero backstory. Kiss was just there.
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I’m more curious about people being pissed about what he said about Nyla Rose. He kinda praised her and I don’t remember any reference to her being trans at all.
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I’m more curious about people being pissed about what he said about Nyla Rose. He kinda praised her and I don’t remember any reference to her being trans at all.
I was waiting for him to say anything, but I didn’t catch a single thing. I think this is just what Gerty said. People don’t like Cornette so they’ll just make it up.
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Is Sonny Kiss the first ever transgender wrestler? Doesn't look good for a company that is trying to be for everybody/banning transphobic fans.
No, he’s gay/gender fluid. I just found out the second thing today. So Sonny doesn’t mind being called “she” or “they.” Just don’t call them a shitty wrestler.
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Doesn't look good for a company that is trying to be for everybody/banning transphobic fans.
Trying to oppress others on the basis of sexuality, gender, race, etc is a toxic mindset that had no place in society.

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I don't understand why everyone is calling Jim Cornette a homophobe or why Sonny Kiss would be mad. In Mexico they have the exotico division where a lot of the dudes dress up as transvestites and try to kiss the male wrestlers in the match. Like that is literally their gimmick. Sonny Kiss looks exactly like that, and wrestles like that too, just replace the kiss (which may still be a part of his gimmick, this was all of seen of him.) with pulling someones face in his ass. Like if you go that far, and someone points out the obvious that you look like a transvestite, how do you get offended at that?
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Also lol at this "homophobe" outrage coming a week or two after Cornette ranted for like a half hour on how ridiculous the new abortion bill is while also defending the gay community from idiots opposed to gay marriage and the like.
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It's typical butt hurt wrestlers unable to deal with criticism and acting like carnies in response.
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A quick Google image search for Sonny Kiss should be enough to end all argument.
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Nothing wrong with that at all but if all there is to Sonny Kiss is what i saw in teh Battle Royal he can go back to where he came from.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:06 AM   #146
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:51 AM   #147
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I have a pic of myself with Nyla Rose, she used to wrestle in my local fed. I never knew she was trans, I just thought she was a big Awesome Kong-esque fat chick
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Old 06-01-2019, 03:21 PM   #150
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WAIT, WHAT

Meet Nyla Rose, the first full-time trans fighter in a major wrestling promotion
"Interestingly, Rose isn’t the first out trans pro-wrestler. Before her, there was Candy Lee, a New Zealand wrestler with Impact Pro Wrestling; Mariah Morena, “The Bloodthirsty Vixen” with American Wrestling Alliance; U.K. wrestler Harley Ryder; and trans Japanese wrestler Asuka."

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O, thanks. I wasn't sure if that site was some sort of Wrestling version of The Onion or something.

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If it wasn’t for the bitching and the PR nightmare it would cause, Nyla turning heel and basically being like “Yeah, I was born a man and I’m going to beat the shit out of every woman on the roster and there’s nothing anyone can do about it or I’ll cry discrimination.” would be a great storyline.
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If it wasn’t for the bitching and the PR nightmare it would cause, Nyla turning heel and basically being like “Yeah, I was born a man and I’m going to beat the shit out of every woman on the roster and there’s nothing anyone can do about it or I’ll cry discrimination.” would be a great storyline.
WWE should do that with nia jax
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Nothing wrong with that at all but if all there is to Sonny Kiss is what i saw in teh Battle Royal he can go back to where he came from.
This is something that I've been trying to articulate. I get that LGBT+ people are sick of "explaining themselves" to people, but we're talking about a presented show. No one is talking about Sonny Kiss' right to exist when they're like "Wtf are you doing here?" It's the same when you've got a guy pretending to be a dinosaur and you don't know why. The exposition should exist for everything that happens.

The lines between kayfabe and reality are so blurred for these guys that they conflate not giving a fuck about them as TV characters as an insult to their entire existence. Like, Sonny -- no one has followed you since childhood. No one knows your life story just by looking at you. In fact, if you dress like every fake gay gimmick WWE has ever presented, then those are the signposts you are drawing on to convey a visual message.

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O, thanks. I wasn't sure if that site was some sort of Wrestling version of The Onion or something.

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My stance on the matter is - "I didn't know she was a man, I thought she was an unattractive woman. "
Good for her if her transition has been so successful.

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If it wasn’t for the bitching and the PR nightmare it would cause, Nyla turning heel and basically being like “Yeah, I was born a man and I’m going to beat the shit out of every woman on the roster and there’s nothing anyone can do about it or I’ll cry discrimination.” would be a great storyline.
Would it be better to have her talk about her being a "real woman" instead? Womanhood chose her to put on the boots and beat the shit out of these fake bitches.
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Yeah let's get a man to beat up the fake bitches.

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