09-13-2018, 10:41 PM | #41 |
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Mr.T was bigger than Batista ever will be
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09-13-2018, 10:41 PM | #42 |
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Think is really really bad logic. He wasnt the draw in those. He sold no tickets
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09-13-2018, 10:42 PM | #43 |
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Being in a movie, no matter how succesful, doesnt make you a star
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09-13-2018, 10:42 PM | #44 |
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Steve Austin was a star. D-Lo Brown was not a star. They were on the same show.
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09-13-2018, 10:44 PM | #45 |
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If this the notion that everyone in the film is marketable as a star i propose the following question:
Why arent they getting leading roles? Follow up:why does the transitive property not effect reason theyre not getting leading roles but does allow them to draw in wrestling |
09-13-2018, 10:49 PM | #46 |
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Batista has an undercard act on the hottest property in film. Good for him, thats awesome. Doesnt make him a star.
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09-14-2018, 04:04 AM | #47 |
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Because Triple H has a fragile ego and he was wrong about Guardians of the Galaxy, and it made him look about as out of touch with culture as Vince, and Dave made that public. Also, Batista is very public with his criticisms of WWE's creative direction and philosophy. I believe he called out Stephanie on Twitter at one point.
Batista is actually correct, and he would be perceived as a huge star, contextually, by the WWE audiences. No, he's not headlining his own films or the biggest deal in Hollywood, but he's got that "emerging profile" and some reputable, if not exactly carrying performances. If he showed up on a talk show, people might go "Who is that? Oh, it's Drax. Oh, and it was also that silent guy in that Bond movie. Okay." In WWE it would be "Fuck yeah! Batista's back!" Triple H will call him if he ever wants the justification for another high profile WrestleMania match, and no one else fits or is going to cut it. |
09-14-2018, 04:29 AM | #48 |
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I’m guessing there’s more chance of WWE bringing in David Arquette and billing him as a movie ‘star’ and former champion than Batista.
Just to add to the argument , the guy has just been in one of the most popular and highest grossing films ever, no he wasn’t the top billed star of the movie but he has a big following and acclaim for the character he played. Sorry being lazy and can’t remember who said it but the demographic of WWE and Avengers fans is around the same so people who wouldn’t know him from his earlier runs would know him as Drax. Just bring him out under his real name and get him to shoot on the company, even better get him to beat the crap out of Roman, he would definitely get cheers then 🙂 |
09-14-2018, 04:47 AM | #49 |
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David Arquette is not far off from being a "credible" World Champion these days. If he stuck with wrestling training and did some spots over the past 20 years, people would by dying to see him get another run.
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09-14-2018, 04:00 PM | #50 |
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09-14-2018, 06:51 PM | #51 |
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09-14-2018, 07:45 PM | #52 |
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Am I wrong? If so, how?
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09-14-2018, 08:03 PM | #53 |
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Plus, he is "from the past" so he'd instantly be treated better and more important than anyone on the current roster!
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09-14-2018, 09:17 PM | #54 |
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09-14-2018, 09:20 PM | #55 |
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09-14-2018, 10:05 PM | #56 |
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That wasn't my point. My point was that he if learnt to take a few more bumps and just did occasionally appearances (like the one at the indy show he did a while back -- to use an arbitrary sense of time), then he would fit right in today and the things he was derided for would be negated by simply "being there" or because they don't matter anymore.
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09-14-2018, 11:32 PM | #57 |
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09-14-2018, 11:36 PM | #58 |
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The value in Batista is the value of former champion and blast from the past batista is back...just like any other former main event guy that they might bring back for a program. I dont think that his time in Hollywood does anymore for the gate than if he had just gone home and did nothing and collected magic nostalgia dust.
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09-14-2018, 11:37 PM | #59 |
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If we had two dimensions where we could see both results i think you sell identical tickets to both imaginary shows.
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09-15-2018, 08:42 AM | #60 |
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Personally I’d be more interested in Batista than 90% of the current roster
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09-15-2018, 08:43 AM | #61 |
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And I say that as someone that didn’t care all that much about Batista in the 2000s.
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09-28-2018, 05:20 PM | #62 |
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Evolution reunite at Smackdown 1000
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09-28-2018, 05:20 PM | #63 |
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Which is kinda odd because the stable was a prominent fixture on Monday Night RAW.
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09-28-2018, 06:08 PM | #64 |
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That was my first thought. Were they ever even on Smackdown at all?
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09-28-2018, 07:55 PM | #65 |
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good to see bats on the a show guess they will be heels since that is what randy is doing now
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09-28-2018, 11:05 PM | #66 |
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Randy doesn't even fit any nostalgic dynamic right now. I can't see this appearance being great. He needs to just roll on as is.
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09-28-2018, 11:38 PM | #67 |
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I'm actually interested to see what happens there. Are they just going to come out and wave? Or is it going to lead to an angle? Maybe they just beat up The Colons or something?
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09-29-2018, 10:00 AM | #69 |
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I really wish the WWE would stop spoiling their own shows.
If they had kept quiet about Batista appearing on SmackDown and just had Triple H, Flair and Orton come out followed by Batista's music suddenly blasting out a little later, then Batista's appearance would have been such a surprise, especially after him saying that he hadn't been invited. It would have also have made a good memorable moment for the milestone show. |
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09-29-2018, 11:29 AM | #71 |
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Maybe they’ll all come out and Triple H will be like “Evolution was the best!” And then Shawn Michaels will come out and be like “Aww man, I thought DX was the best!” and then Seth Rollins will come out and be like “Hey, HHH! You know The Authority was the best!” and then Triple H will be like “Don’t make me choose. Let’s just all beat up a current jobber instead!” and then they’ll all pose for the crowd while Michael Cole says “I don’t know which of these groups was better. But they all love to have fun here on Smackdown 1000!” and then the show will go to break and former TPWW poster TheCyNick will immediately go to his computer and write a long e-mail to the WWE praising them for the most brilliant segment of television he has ever seen.
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09-29-2018, 12:00 PM | #72 |
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That is exactly what will happen.
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09-29-2018, 12:18 PM | #73 |
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I want Evolution to be interrupted by Reverend D-Von.
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09-29-2018, 05:39 PM | #75 |
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Remember when they got their highest ratings ever by making the audience believe anything could happen as opposed to just telling them what would happen.
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09-29-2018, 08:55 PM | #76 |
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Yeah. The whole idea of announcing major returns beforehand is incredibly short-sighted.
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09-29-2018, 10:07 PM | #77 |
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09-30-2018, 03:52 AM | #79 |
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