08-01-2018, 11:16 AM | #1 | |
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Shinsuke Nakamura talks about crying after wrestling Brock Lesnar
An excerpt from Shinsuke Nakamura’s book:
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08-01-2018, 04:23 PM | #2 |
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Brock only interested in money. True story, bro. Or should I say bRAW.
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08-02-2018, 11:26 AM | #3 |
Stickman
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Nakamura sounds like a bitch.
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08-02-2018, 11:45 AM | #4 |
It's a blood match!
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08-02-2018, 11:50 AM | #5 |
Let me talk to ya
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Agree with Stickman, probably was a shitty situation but to cry over it seems a bit much.
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08-02-2018, 11:51 AM | #6 |
I am the cheese
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Real men cry, they just dont talk about it.
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08-02-2018, 12:09 PM | #7 | |
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08-02-2018, 12:14 PM | #8 |
I am the cheese
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I always laugh when people say that like that it matters
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08-02-2018, 12:15 PM | #9 |
I am the cheese
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Weird brainwashing that its not enough to be good you also have to love it as much as whatever nerd is the metric for passion
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08-02-2018, 12:15 PM | #10 |
Fire up Chips!
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There's no crying in rasslin unless you're Ric Flair
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08-02-2018, 12:25 PM | #11 |
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I feel the same way when someone talks about a wrestler deserving something because they work hard. Like... if Lesnar doesn't give a shit about wrestling and some less talented guy eats, sleeps and breathes it, Lesnar "deserves" his spot, his money and his fame more. The business doesn't exist to make sure guys who get into wrestling get what they deserve. It exists to entertain people watching and literally nothing more.
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08-02-2018, 12:27 PM | #12 |
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"Taker deserved to be able to keep his streak"
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08-02-2018, 12:34 PM | #13 |
boop/bop/beep
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Also, Nakamura is totally working here. He's pushing the storyline narrative.
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08-02-2018, 12:45 PM | #14 |
Trickster Demon
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"SHIN" as Michael Cole calls him
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08-02-2018, 01:35 PM | #15 |
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Sounds like kayfabe.
OR what Dale said |
08-02-2018, 04:13 PM | #16 |
LUV CABBAGE/H8 JEWS
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08-02-2018, 04:38 PM | #17 |
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08-02-2018, 09:28 PM | #18 |
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Then maybe all of the different wrestling companies should purge their rosters of those who are only there for the money.
'Passion for the product > Passion for the pocket' should be the motto of the whole industry, with money considerations thrown in the garbage and ignored, with those believing in the latter banned from the industry for a term of life. =P |
08-02-2018, 10:51 PM | #19 |
Hey Mister!
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It takes a big man to cry. But it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.
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08-04-2018, 10:32 AM | #20 |
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08-04-2018, 10:34 AM | #21 |
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08-04-2018, 06:25 PM | #22 |
Rigged from the start
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08-04-2018, 08:47 PM | #23 |
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It didn't really become a big part of The Undertaker's shtick until 2002.
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08-04-2018, 08:56 PM | #24 |
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From a creative, non-wrestling standpoint, working with somebody who is talented but phoning it in and under performing really sucks.
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08-04-2018, 10:45 PM | #25 |
LUV CABBAGE/H8 JEWS
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You don't love music, you don't deserve that iPod.
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08-05-2018, 03:22 AM | #26 | |
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That's fine. I know musicians that hate the music scene, comedians that hate the comedy scene, actors that hate group readings because they rehearse better alone. Why does someone creative need to apply themselves in a fake bullshit way to every aspect of the job like it's all some big candy-land dream? If you're giving good performances, who the fuck cares whether or not you "love" the whole process? |
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08-05-2018, 03:25 AM | #27 |
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08-05-2018, 03:57 AM | #28 |
LUV CABBAGE/H8 JEWS
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08-05-2018, 04:20 AM | #29 | |
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08-05-2018, 04:48 AM | #30 |
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Where does it say that?
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08-05-2018, 05:06 AM | #31 |
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His entire answer to "Why did you cry?", he puts it more politely / respectfully but he hated the match. There were reports of him going to the performance centre for the first time to find the other talent were watching that match and he made them turn it off because he's so embarrassed by it.
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08-05-2018, 05:07 AM | #32 |
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Wait, Brock wrestled Nakamura?
The fuck was the point? There was nothing to gain here. |
08-05-2018, 10:28 AM | #33 |
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It was pre-WWE. In New Japan.
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08-05-2018, 11:05 AM | #34 |
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08-06-2018, 05:47 AM | #35 |
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Except both of those guys are really good (even if Del Rio became very boring as a character really fast).
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I love Nakamura, but there are plenty of guys that weren't total geeks for the industry that have made a killing and produced some of the most magic stuff we've ever seen. There is no direct relationship between passion and effective work. |
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08-06-2018, 05:54 AM | #37 |
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Brock's had absolute classics. Again, I love Nakamura, but Brock vs. AJ was better than just about anything Nakamura and all his passion has achieved since coming to the WWE -- and I'm a fan of his work with AJ. Nakamura vs. Zayn was really good, but Brock vs. AJ was more recent.
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08-06-2018, 08:52 AM | #38 | |
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Like, they were so gifted that they could just half-ass it and still have it be totally passable. So I get why they did it. But as a fan I just didn't find it particularly interesting after a while. Del Rio felt checked out for much of his WWE run and his boring character didn't help. Orton seems to mostly just coast when he's a face, he's very outspoken of his preference of being heel and it does seem like he's extra motivated when they've allowed him to have a heel run. |
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08-06-2018, 03:27 PM | #39 | |
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