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Old 03-24-2016, 07:08 AM   #10721
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Yea... definitely seems like something that would be done in a couple years time. Just like DVD players when they first arrived - I remember the average cost was $500-$750 for one, now you can get one for less than $50.

While 4K is great and all, as Rog said, the console 4k market has to be rather small. Most people who are utilizing 4k "gaming" are PC players already and less likely to invest in a console with equal or less power.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:13 AM   #10722
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While 4K is great and all, as Rog said, the console 4k market has to be rather small. Most people who are utilizing 4k "gaming" are PC players already and less likely to invest in a console with equal or less power.
Even then, a lot of games don't run at 30fps at 4k on a 980ti.

I think we need to see what these new AMD GPUs do when the desktop parts are out. If they're not at least double the power at every price point, then it's only going to be indie 2D games running at 4k.

I think they've got to be clearly hoping that people sitting there with 4k TVs are thinking "Well, what can I do with this resolution?" because it's only really heavily compressed Netflix and a couple of UHD players right now, or that releasing this will make those on the fence about bothering to get a 4k TV get one. They were half-arsed with 3D (mostly because it was a bollocks tech, but still), they might try and go all in with this. Since Kaz is at the top of all Sony instead of just games now, this could be his trojan horse for 4k. I just don't see how it makes sense any other way.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:16 AM   #10723
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Very true. I think that is what is forgotten. Everyone has had the "1080p 60FPS" hammered into their brain, they most likely do not understand the jump required to go from 1080p to 4k.

I can also see this being shat upon by console fanboys if they release a model at the same price point or much higher, especially if they do not offer some sort of "1st gen trade" offer or something.
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Are 4K blu rays out in retail yet? I can see it as part of a big push in "Just buy this as your 4K player".

A very, very loose comparison would be the Xbox 360 eventually getting the HDMI port. Did the Elite have one at launch or were they all component in 2005?
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I can also see this being shat upon by console fanboys if they release a model at the same price point or much higher, especially if they do not offer some sort of "1st gen trade" offer or something.
Jeff Gerstman over at Giant Bomb said on a podcast that MS had been planning on doing this iterative design with the 360. Something with Comcast or another cable company that said "Hey, here's your free XBox for doing a 2 year contract with us" and then at the end of the contract "Lock yourself in for another 2 years and we'll take that old 360 from you and here's a 360.2!" or whatever the fuck it would be and the only thing that held them back was IBM not really doing much with PowerPC anymore.

I can't even see that working. I can't see people upgrading their consoles as much as phones.
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Are 4K blu rays out in retail yet? I can see it as part of a big push in "Just buy this as your 4K player".

A very, very loose comparison would be the Xbox 360 eventually getting the HDMI port. Did the Elite have one at launch or were they all component in 2005?
Yeah, think they started hitting retail sometime this year. The Elite had the HDMI at launch. Only remember because Jeff mentioned it in that very same podcast. Other models didn't follow for a little bit.
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Huh, from back in October last year:

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When 4Gamer brought up the topic of Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray, Ito said (translation courtesy of Siliconera):

The Blu-ray disc drive that is currently installed in the PS4 is made exclusively for the Blu-ray disc player, so it cannot read the 3-layer media that is standardized by Ultra HD Blu-ray. For this reason, the PlayStation 4 models that are out in the market cannot be compatible with Ultra HD Blu-ray.

Ito said that Sony is currently considering Ultra HD Blu-ray compatibility and that the company could make it happen with, say, a high-power PS4 model, but a lot of factors have to be considered when making such a decision. For example:

“How many units of this enhanced PS4 will we be able to sell?” and “how much will we sell them for?”
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:52 AM   #10727
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Love ya, Rockstar. But I wouldn't mind a follow up to Red Dead Redemption or introducing a new franchise.

Got a good thing going with GTA 5 right now. No need to start putting in the rear view mirror with all the success it has and keeping online fresh on a regular basis.
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It's as good as happening, been a lot of LinkedIn leaks from people that make it seem like it must be fairly far into development too.

People are also speculating that it's the reason RDR is being held back on the Xbox One BC program as it's fully working. Might just be a pre order bonus. Rockstar don't do E3, but if they have a marketing deal with MS or Sony, I'd say to expect it there. If not, sometime this year.
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Old 03-28-2016, 07:09 PM   #10735
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Yeah. Still got a bit of a following on the 360 these days.

When I had the itch to go online a while back, there was always that 1 jerk who would send you invite after invite after invite to join a posse. And you could never kick him.

It got annoying after and I just said the hell with it. Great game, of course.
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4) Square Enix is currently rumored to be working on 4 new mobile games for their GO series based on recent domain purchases. Thief Go, Deus Ex Go, Life is Strange Go, and Just Cause Go are all rumored to be in development for mobile platforms.
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"Life is Strange Go" sounds like the stupidest title
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Life is Strange Rule34 GIF was briefly on Reddit front page before it got nuked by downvotes for some reason. I suppose this is Videogame News also.
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No. Just Redemption. But damn is it ever good.


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Huge lunch of salt time, but a dude posted something and was verified to be someone fairly high up at GameStop and has done threads on other things that have proven to be legit. But if this is true about the PS4K, then it's pretty much what I want out of that system:

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Price is currently $399.99 they were discussing a better CPU which would raise the price to $499.99 we were guaranteed the price will be no higher than $499.99 (He mentioned the CPU upgrade quite a bit almost as if they haven't really decided on a final spec could be a pricing issue.) also there is currently no plan for any type of trade in program for current PS4 users but that could change.

They stated that the GPU is twice as powerful as standard PS4 and much faster. They did not say exactly how fast but that is was running at a higher clock speed while being much smaller than the original.

It will have a 4k blu ray player and will upscale games that are not natively 4k.

Also there was talk of some sort of VR lounge for the media player app which is supposed to be getting a substantial upgrade.

It was stated plainly and with no room for interpretation that there are developers that already have development kits for the PS4K and that they are making games that will directly target and take advantage of the higher specs of the PS4K. It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

It was also made very clear that current games would not be getting any type of performance upgrades by being played on the system and any benefits to older games would come via patch per game and per developer. When asked if this was going to happen the response was "Its a possibility but doubtful with the exception of a handful of games."
We were also given a list of games that will be available at launch that will directly take advantage of the PS4K where the differences are and I will quote him "Significant."

For the PSVR

Eve Valkyrie
Robinson
GT Sport

For the PS4K

Deep Down (Thought this was dead)
GOW4 (This was the exact abbreviation on the sheet I can only assume its god of war 4)

There were more games on the list but these are the ones that stood out to me.
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Cool. Hopefully this is all true and the current PS4s see a drastic price drop. My PS3 is a bit long in the tooth.
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Huge lunch of salt time, but a dude posted something and was verified to be someone fairly high up at GameStop and has done threads on other things that have proven to be legit. But if this is true about the PS4K, then it's pretty much what I want out of that system:

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That's probably the worst of all the news considering a repeat of late Xbox 360/PS3 gen is likely going to happen after a short while. Should just go in the New 3DS route and make them PS4K exclusive type games to prevent that problem from becoming an issue.

Also doubt Sony is going to bother with a trade-in program or be any better than what Gamestop would offer. Seems like that would be too much of a big money hit if its good for consumers and in the past they've done nothing of sorts for that idea (ex. PSP Go, PS3 games playable on PS4).
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That's probably the worst of all the news considering a repeat of late Xbox 360/PS3 gen is likely going to happen after a short while. Should just go in the New 3DS route and make them PS4K exclusive type games to prevent that problem from becoming an issue.

Also doubt Sony is going to bother with a trade-in program or be any better than what Gamestop would offer. Seems like that would be too much of a big money hit if its good for consumers and in the past they've done nothing of sorts for that idea (ex. PSP Go, PS3 games playable on PS4).
If enough people move over, they will make the games exclusive. New 3DS hasn't done that as there's only been a single retail game that required N3DS, everything else has been N3DS enhanced, so basically exactly that.

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Well the SNES VC stuff is also N3DS-exclusive, but I get your point
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Today's News:
1) SALES & FREEBIES
2) Microsoft revealed the upcoming major update for the Xbox One will include the ability for every Xbox One to also act as a dev kit for Xbox One games.
http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-...s-351867.phtml

3) Update to upcoming Doom beta news as Bethesda announced starting on April 1st, Gamestop will be offering beta codes for those that want to play. Currently Sony is offering beta codes for the PS4 version while those who had pre-ordered Wolfenstein: New Order also have access to the upcoming beta.
http://doom.com/age_gate/beta?
http://www.destructoid.com/want-in-o...p-351675.phtml

4) Konami announced a reboot of the original Contra game is currently in development for mobile devices with Tencent studio as its developer.
http://www.destructoid.com/that-cont...h-351785.phtml

5) Based on a recent survey, some new details for Mass Effect: Andromeda includes the plot revolving around humanity leaving the Milky Way, humanity acting "evil guys"-like in their quest to find a new home, and the game to be very action and exploration based for gameplay.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...k-from-survey/

6) Pokemon GO is currently rumored to only start off with the first gen of Pokemon, include non-Gen 1 Pokemon types (ex. Dark, Fairy), and seven types of Pokemon natures available although not entirely based on past games.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...talk-about-it/
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MS announced that they finally made good on what they said about letting every XBox One be turned into a devkit.

The catch is that it's a Windows 10 store devkit and you can't make XBox games on it. No, I'm not using the Onion as my source.

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The new Nintendo Account thingy is live:

https://my.nintendo.com/

Don't know if it's just Europe, but Flipnote Studio 3D is free through it as well. What was nice is that I purchased it from work and it started the download automatically. Nintendo are now only a couple of years behind the curve!

Once Miitomo is out and we can earn more coins too, we'll be able to get Twilight Princess Picross for nowt as well.

There's also a Mario brick block in the bottom right hand corner of the site. Click that and it'll go back to your Mii, which you cna then click a few times to get 10 bonus coins.

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I'm not a huge fan of Nintendo mobile... idk. Obviously v good for the company but I hate using touch screen for games. Pokemon Shuffle on mobile is a significantly less enjoyable experience for me relative to the 3DS counterpart.

Will prolly dl it to "kick the tires" on it but I don't foresee myself spending a ton of time with it. Maybe.
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