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Old 03-20-2021, 03:01 PM   #121
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No but there needs to be a transition to that point. This is a Superman that said “nothing stays good in this world” or some nonsense like that in BVS and died an hour out or so later in the movie. To go from that and the idea that he was always presented as conflicted about his own existence and purpose to randomly being jovial and friendly and beloved when he really wasn’t is jarring and dumb. Him coming back to life and wanting to know why he’s getting a second chance and deciding to be Superman this time around and all the dad talk as he was picking his suit was a way better but more subtle move towards being the Superman he’s supposed to be.

If they had eliminated that part and just went with how they presented Superman after he came back I think it works better. It was kinda corny but I did like Superman at the end of the Whedon cut. And even that wouldn’t fit with where Snyder was obviously going with the story, I get why it was changed since there was zero plans to ever revisit the Snyder world and the original JL was supposed to be a quiet ending.
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Old 03-20-2021, 03:07 PM   #122
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I didn't mean to suggest that Destor liked Sucker Punch earlier btw.
I would never do that to somebody on purpose.
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Old 03-20-2021, 03:14 PM   #123
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Oh I know he didn’t. He’s merely using it’s awfulness to highlight how full he feels Snyder JL is.
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Old 03-20-2021, 03:33 PM   #124
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No but there needs to be a transition to that point. This is a Superman that said “nothing stays good in this world” or some nonsense like that in BVS and died an hour out or so later in the movie. To go from that and the idea that he was always presented as conflicted about his own existence and purpose to randomly being jovial and friendly and beloved when he really wasn’t is jarring and dumb. Him coming back to life and wanting to know why he’s getting a second chance and deciding to be Superman this time around and all the dad talk as he was picking his suit was a way better but more subtle move towards being the Superman he’s supposed to be.

If they had eliminated that part and just went with how they presented Superman after he came back I think it works better. It was kinda corny but I did like Superman at the end of the Whedon cut. And even that wouldn’t fit with where Snyder was obviously going with the story, I get why it was changed since there was zero plans to ever revisit the Snyder world and the original JL was supposed to be a quiet ending.
Dunno... feel like there is absolutely zero wrong with course correcting his character, even if it doesn't match with what we have seen. It's a movie, I can "suspend my disbelief" and just think "Ok, so he can smile and be light they just haven't shown us those parts". Actually good to show it because it actually hammered the point home of "yeah people would actually miss this guy" whereas the Superman of the last two movies I feel there would be a large mix of relief from the general public that he is gone.
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Old 03-20-2021, 03:47 PM   #125
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It's like saying you want to see the transition of Joker from tattooed "gangster" in Suicide Squad to the more "traditional" type Joker at the end of this.

Nah, I don't really care, just give me what I want.
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Old 03-20-2021, 03:53 PM   #126
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Or in Iron Man 3 how Tony "gives up" being Iron Man at the end but then is back at it with no explanation for the next Avengers.... I don't really care
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:09 PM   #127
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Tony Stork would have been a good name.

Because he could fly.
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:19 PM   #128
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So because Superman sucked in the previous movies it's the wrong move to try to course correct with him a bit and make him enjoyable for once?
nailed it. superman being the beacon of hope is a bad thing why
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:20 PM   #129
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snyder got these characters wrong. throwing his work in the trash and having them be who we paid to see cant possibly be the wrong call
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Old 03-21-2021, 01:12 PM   #130
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I don’t think course correcting is wrong. I think shoehorning in a version of the character into a movie that was clearly butchered and randomly pretending the divisive version of the character didn’t exist was jarring and weird. I also think Snyder sucked with his previous handling of Superman. I get the idea of exploring his personal existential problems if you think he’s a Jesus allegory but it shouldn’t take almost 9 hours of film to get there.
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For anyone waiting for the complete Snyder artistic vision, his 4:3 black and white "Justice is Gray" edition is now out!!!!
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lol cant believe thats not a joke
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Old 03-25-2021, 09:44 PM   #134
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Yeah no thanks. I think getting his 4 hour self wank job release is more than enough. I saw someone time all the slow motion and it’s 10% of the movie. 24 minutes of slow motion lol. For the flash scenes I get it but lmao at 24 minutes.
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Old 03-25-2021, 10:34 PM   #135
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Starting to see the Snyder cult come outta the woodwork and pretending Snyder didn’t deliver 2 underwhelming, underperforming and extremely divisive films prior to this. It was 5 years ago but the biggest story going into BVS opening weekend was all the terrible reviews and how the audience scores were not good. And that the drop off in second week box office was abysmal.

I’m glad Snyder got to release his version and did it his way, but these fucks are pretending he’s some savant filmmaker who was wronged by a studio that produced the Dark Knight trilogy as if they weren’t right to reign him in after singing and missing on a new Superman movie and the first Superman Batman team up.
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Old 03-25-2021, 11:37 PM   #136
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He got us to watch a four hour version of a film we had already seen, mate.

Zack Snyder actually wins this round.
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The black and white victory lap is just him rubbing his cock in our faces
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Old 03-26-2021, 12:55 AM   #138
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Oh I’m happy he’s got to release his version. It’s too long, there’s too much slow motion and some repetitive or needlessly long scenes that don’t end soon enough, BUT I enjoyed the hell out of it and felt it was a far better, more realized film than the WB mandated Whedon cut. Snyder getting a victory lap is fine by me.

It’s his awful worst of the worse minions that I can’t stand.
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