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Old 10-05-2019, 01:32 PM   #201
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The title change buried the ENTIRE locker room.

If WWE were a territory, it would be dead right now.
For sure. 100%.
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Old 10-05-2019, 02:21 PM   #202
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3.87 million viewers btw

Demos were over 1 million, so that's good

Week 2 will drop of course, it does for all shows - but how much or how little be interesting
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Old 10-05-2019, 03:29 PM   #203
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I guess this opens the door to DC joining WWE after he beats Miocic.

Stipe Miocic is a beast man. DC isn't beating him ever again.
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Old 10-05-2019, 03:31 PM   #204
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I didn’t catch the show, but I did log onto the Internet and saw a gif of the entire main event.

So I’m pretty glad I didn’t watch.


Can you hook us up with the gif?

This sounds funny.
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Old 10-05-2019, 03:32 PM   #205
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Kofi is unbelievably boring and makes the WWE title seem like shit imo... Really glad his reign is finally over
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Old 10-05-2019, 04:18 PM   #206
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The "fix your teeth Brock" sign in the crowd was a highlight...
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Old 10-05-2019, 04:28 PM   #207
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Didn't watch this, but what's hilarious and pathetic to me is instead of actually using and building up their own stars, (because they can't) they continually beg (and rely on bringing in) outside mainstream stars and actual athletes to come in and headline and draw in viewers with feuds WWE didn't ever really start or even write themselves.

It shows how totally inept Vince and WWE is at actually creating quality content. Instead just write big enough checks and rely on the money to bring in the talent that will bring in viewers. 1999 Vince would be rightfully embarrassed and probably criticize and bash what has become today's 2019 Vince (who is essentially 2019's equivalent to Bischoff/Turner) in terms of their creative talent and dedication.
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Old 10-05-2019, 04:48 PM   #208
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Are you talking about the 1999 Vince that had just spent untold millions in the 80's and 90's bringing in mainstream stars to sell his product further?
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Old 10-05-2019, 06:36 PM   #209
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Stipe Miocic is a beast man. DC isn't beating him ever again.
I disagree. If DC pressured him throughout the fight with takedowns; he would've won, retired and it would be DC taking on Brock in Saudi Arabia. DC will ragdoll Miocic this time around.
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Old 10-05-2019, 06:40 PM   #210
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This is also an excellent move for Tyson Fury considering he is not drawing well in the US. Given that he is ultra charismatic, he will easily win over fans who will follow him into his rematch with Wilder.
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Old 10-05-2019, 06:47 PM   #211
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Like the new set a lot more than Raws. Cain was a surprise. Didn't know he was done with AAA. Glad they got the championship off Kofi as well.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:02 PM   #212
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Meltzer being weirdly defensive about people saying that Cain Velasquez's body looks like shit, esp next to Lesnar
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:28 PM   #213
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According to the Observer, SD's debut was actually lower than what FOX did last year during this same week.

SD reached 4.22 million as the peak viewership during the Rock's segment and dropped by 360k for the women's tag match. Also suffered a 222k drop during the 8-man tag and Tyson Fury stuff.

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Smackdown did a 2.4 rating and 3,888,000 viewers for an average minute. It was down five percent from what FOX did in the same time slot one year ago for its Friday season openers of Last Man Standing, The Cool Kids and Hell's Kitchen. But all things considered, that isn't bad, and did triple of what FOX was doing in September with rerun programming in the time slot ...

Becky Lynch & Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks & Bayley lost 360,000 viewers, which sounds bad but really isn't. About 600,000 people turned off Raw on Monday after Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair's segment.

Seth Rollins vs. Shinsuke Nakamura and the angle with The Fiend lost 133,000 viewers.

The Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon ladder match gained 235,000 viewers.

The eight-man tag match and Tyson Fury angle lost 222,000 viewers.

The Roman Reigns vs. Erick Rowan match lost 3,000 viewers.

The Brock Lesnar vs. Kofi Kingston match and Cain Velasquez angle gained 105,000 viewers.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:41 PM   #214
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Also seems the crowd was not happy when they got baited with an expected live Austin appearance and it didn't happen. Same for a bunch of WWE's locker room rallying behind Kofi after how badly he was treated at the end of the show.

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Before they went live, they ran a Steve Austin pre-tape for the crowd ...

We heard from a few people that the crowd was not happy when the show went off the air. The crowd started chanting for Austin, who didn’t appear. If they expected Austin live, I get why they were ticked. The end of the show was pretty abrupt but at least Rey Mysterio showed up after what happened on Monday.

They aired an XFL commercial, which got booed, during a break.
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Are you talking about the 1999 Vince that had just spent untold millions in the 80's and 90's bringing in mainstream stars to sell his product further?
Sorry. You're right. That's fair. I guess I meant more of 2000-01 Vince who had the guts and creative ability to find and build stars (Rock, Austin, Jericho, Kurt, HHH, Foley, etc.) that weren't truly popular or successful elsewhere before coming to WWE.

At the very least, no one on WWE's roster since Cena in 2003, whether they got their start in WWE or elsewhere, has gone on to actually be more well known than the WWE stars that came before them as a result of being involved in WWE and the "guts and creativity" of Vince/WWE.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:47 AM   #216
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This is also an excellent move for Tyson Fury considering he is not drawing well in the US. Given that he is ultra charismatic, he will easily win over fans who will follow him into his rematch with Wilder.

He's mentally ill so he will do very well in America
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:43 AM   #217
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I have no idea why they decided to just bury Kofi Kingston after the year he has had; other than utter stupidity. I would have been fine with the outcome had there been a competitive match. And it would have served some justice to Kofi's reign and year except WE HAVE CAIN VELASQUEZ! FUCK EVERYTHING... CAIN VELASQUEZ!!! CAIN VELASQUEZ!!!!!
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:47 AM   #218
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Dunno who Cain Velasquez is other than a UFC guy. Don’t know anything about his history with Lesnar, although I can infer from the exchange they had. I will say Cain should have kept his top on, bigger love handles than I’ve got. He looked like shit, having seen pics of him from his UFC days I felt that he’s never been a body guy.
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Dunno who Cain Velasquez is other than a UFC guy. Donít know anything about his history with Lesnar, although I can infer from the exchange they had. I will say Cain should have kept his top on, bigger love handles than Iíve got. He looked like shit, having seen pics of him from his UFC days I felt that heís never been a body guy.
You know how wrestling fans complain about Vinceís preference for bigger muscular men? Yeah, I see why he has that mindset now. All of you bitching about a legit fighter whoís probably in better conditioning than majority of the WWE roster.
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I have no doubt he’s in great shape. He still looks like shit.
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Dunno who Cain Velasquez is other than a UFC guy. Donít know anything about his history with Lesnar, although I can infer from the exchange they had. I will say Cain should have kept his top on, bigger love handles than Iíve got. He looked like shit, having seen pics of him from his UFC days I felt that heís never been a body guy.
That scar on Lesnar's left cheek bone is courtesy of Mr. Velasquez.
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You know how wrestling fans complain about Vinceís preference for bigger muscular men? Yeah, I see why he has that mindset now. All of you bitching about a legit fighter whoís probably in better conditioning than majority of the WWE roster.
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Like CM Punk, Baron Corbin, Foley, Owens etc.
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Punk didn’t look like shit and the other three wear shirts when they wrestle.

Really bad take, Daveed.
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Really bad take, Daveed.
Darn it, you're right. But I do feel that folks are being a little too harsh with respect to Cain's physique.
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:52 AM   #227
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Brock beating Kofi is good. Cain being in is good. Tyson Fury is good. There’s plenty to dislike about WWE, but those things aren’t among them.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:14 AM   #228
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The show looks amazing.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:26 AM   #229
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The title change buried the ENTIRE locker room.

If WWE were a territory, it would be dead right now.
The terribly uncharismatic talentless talent in the locker room is what buried the locker room.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:31 AM   #230
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That scar on Lesnar's left cheek bone is courtesy of Mr. Velasquez.
And I hope they tell the story of that.

Iím also fully aware that heís not been brought in for me (a wrestling fan), heís been brought in to try to draw interest from MMA fans.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:40 PM   #231
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He’s a star. FOX would like them having stars.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:42 PM   #232
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He’s a star to a certain audience - an audience that WWE want to court no doubt - but to 90% of people he’s nobody.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:49 PM   #233
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I didn't recognize him at all. But if he gets more eyes on the show, then it's good for everyone I guess.

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Old 10-06-2019, 02:56 PM   #234
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Too bad Cain doesn't look like he lifts. Lesnar looked jacked and more belieavable (even though IRL Cain is probably more badass).
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:17 PM   #235
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Lol screech

I thought the same; “fuck Dominic looks HUGE!”
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:29 PM   #236
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Darn it, you're right. But I do feel that folks are being a little too harsh with respect to Cain's physique.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:53 PM   #237
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I do find it interesting that people are really on the dude about his physique. Aesthetics are important, but everyone knows this guy is bad-ass and can believe it. If he were an unknown out of the PC, I would understand it more.
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Old 10-06-2019, 05:06 PM   #238
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If they think he looks like shit wait till they see Tyson Fury with his shirt off
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:14 AM   #239
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I'd never heard of Tyson Fury until Friday.
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:42 AM   #240
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