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Old 02-12-2020, 07:05 PM   #54041
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Big ratings draw is a bit of a stretch. The show is still only doing 900k viewers or so. But a relative draw and someone that commands more interest than the rest of the show? Definitely.
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Old 02-13-2020, 07:42 AM   #54042
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:22 AM   #54043
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I'm sure that will get softened with time and makeup treatment tweaks. That's what happened with Charlotte. Yeah, you can't get around the genetics, but think about when she first appeared how much it looked like someone took a hot gymnast's body and superimposed Ric's face directly from 1983 like that scene from The Running Man.
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:24 AM   #54044
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I still think she kinda looks like Obama. Sherock Obama.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:21 PM   #54046
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Rumor currently going around the net hints at AJ Styles vs. Undertaker and John Cena vs. Goldberg as potential matches for the card of this year's Mania.
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Rumor currently going around the net hints at AJ Styles vs. Undertaker and John Cena vs. Goldberg as potential matches for the card of this year's Mania.
Both HUGE matches. I've never been a Taker fan, but if you've got to have him, Styles is one of the best guys you can put him with. Phenom vs. Phenomenal One.

Cena vs. Goldberg is pretty blockbuster. Would be totally down for a Spear, Jackhammer and Goldberg win. Cena doesn't need it, probably isn't in the best ring shape and probably doesn't want to do too many bumps and risk popping something out and cutting into movie time.

I'm not fan of The Fiend, so I am totally cool with Goldberg squashing Bray too. He's miscast in his slot, in my opinion. Reigns vs. Bray can be away from the belt. Bray can even win that if you want him to. Have him "change" Roman and then send Roman after the Universal Title.

They need to build new stars, but I think they can do that in Bray and Roman in different ways other than having them wrestle over a belt, and they're doing that pretty heavy on Raw right now anyway.

You could give me Brock going to SmackDown and winning the Uni Title to drop it to D-Bry too. Fuck I want to see those two wrestle again. FOX would probably be happy with all those moves, and Amazon or Peacock or whoever will probably be happy to feature some of those big matches.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:41 PM   #54048
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Really want AJ Styles to be a cocky prick. Have Taker challenge Styles after he wins that Gauntlet in Saudi Arabia and have Styles be like "It ain't no thing." He's The New Phenom. He doesn't want Taker, Taker wants him. How many times was Taker WWE Champion for over a year? Styles has won at the last three WrestleManias and Taker is about to lose his third. Present Styles as pound-for-pound the best of all-time, in his opinion. Bring out Shawn Michaels to challenge that case and ask him if he really thinks he can do what Mr. WrestleMania couldn't. Cue Gallows & Anderson keeping Shawn from leaving and Styles putting Michaels in the Calf-Crusher and making Shawn tap.

Styles can be the first guy to submit Taker at WrestleMania. Fucking bring it.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:49 PM   #54049
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:19 PM   #54050
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Old 02-13-2020, 11:17 PM   #54051
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Both HUGE matches. I've never been a Taker fan, but if you've got to have him, Styles is one of the best guys you can put him with. Phenom vs. Phenomenal One.
No they're not. Not in terms of making a star or having an actual meaningful, long-term purpose or goal.

This is so fucking stupid. WWE thinks (and convinces its fucking moronic viewers to buy into) the idea that somehow "superstar" v. "superstar" who have never faced each other is great because they say it is. It's fucking trash, serves no purpose, outside of merely drawing eyeballs to an event, and is fucking lazy bullshit. That doesn't preclude it from being entertaining/good as a one off event, but that doesn't mean it's quality content or storytelling.

That's the ultimate problem with WWE... they've basically become the worst wrestling... they can't build or tell stories, they can only sell one off events because the folks in charge are pathetic fucking moronic idiots who don't know how to consistently build quality content/stories and characters. It's fucking ridiculous, and anyone who thinks what they're doing is remotely good is dumber than the folks in charge.
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Old 02-13-2020, 11:22 PM   #54052
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Really want AJ Styles to be a cocky prick. Have Taker challenge Styles after he wins that Gauntlet in Saudi Arabia and have Styles be like "It ain't no thing." He's The New Phenom. He doesn't want Taker, Taker wants him. How many times was Taker WWE Champion for over a year? Styles has won at the last three WrestleManias and Taker is about to lose his third. Present Styles as pound-for-pound the best of all-time, in his opinion. Bring out Shawn Michaels to challenge that case and ask him if he really thinks he can do what Mr. WrestleMania couldn't. Cue Gallows & Anderson keeping Shawn from leaving and Styles putting Michaels in the Calf-Crusher and making Shawn tap.

Styles can be the first guy to submit Taker at WrestleMania. Fucking bring it.
So a guy who is going to retire in the next few years as some aging veteran version of a "legend", is going to "be the first guy to submit (to the more aged veteran guy who has already been beaten at Mania) at WrestleMania". Honestly, if you think this is quality, it explains a ton.
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Old 02-14-2020, 12:12 AM   #54053
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ooutside of merely drawing eyeballs to an event, .
You just justified this happening.
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Really want AJ Styles to be a cocky prick. Have Taker challenge Styles after he wins that Gauntlet in Saudi Arabia and have Styles be like "It ain't no thing." He's The New Phenom. He doesn't want Taker, Taker wants him. How many times was Taker WWE Champion for over a year? Styles has won at the last three WrestleManias and Taker is about to lose his third. Present Styles as pound-for-pound the best of all-time, in his opinion. Bring out Shawn Michaels to challenge that case and ask him if he really thinks he can do what Mr. WrestleMania couldn't. Cue Gallows & Anderson keeping Shawn from leaving and Styles putting Michaels in the Calf-Crusher and making Shawn tap.

Styles can be the first guy to submit Taker at WrestleMania. Fucking bring it.

After the bout, they show mutual respect and become best friends. We see backstage segments where the two are just awkwardly hanging out. One of the Basham brothers makes a special appearance only to get double teamed by The Phenomenal Phenom duo. The following week, they're chilling out at a weed dispensary in Arizona where they're greeted by WWE alumni, Val Venis. The duo realize that it is a setup as one of the Basham brothers and Val Venis annihilate the Phenomenal Phenom duo and drill them through non gimmicked tables. This sets up a first ever "non gimmicked" tables match at the next PPV which Val Venis and one of the Basham brothers win in convincing fashion. The four men would collide again in tag team action inside the sadistic "Hell in a Cell" structure. The match comes to an end when Venis pins the Undertaker after a cross legged arm and shin combination breaker. The association comes to an end when one of the Basham brothers eliminates Val Venis in the Royal Rumble in order to become the new Universal Champion after Bray Wyatt defected to AEW. A distraught Val Venis moves on to Elimination Chamber where he defeats Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, AJ Styles, Randy Orton and the Undertaker in order to become the #1 contender for one of the Basham brothers' Universal Championship. The duo are scheduled to collide in the main event of WrestleMania, but there is a twist! One of the Basham brothers won't be facing Val Venis, but they'd be facing his alter ego, Chief freakin' Morley. Come WrestleMania, he's introduced by former RAW General Manager and black belt judo champion of the world, Eric Bischoff. The two have a 60-minute classic, with Chief Morley pinning one of the Basham brothers after a quadruple Canadian destroyer in order to win his maiden Universal Championship. The lights go out as The Phenomenal Phenom duo make an appearance and pay their respects to the amazing rivalry. The fans cry tears of joy as Vince McMahon makes his way down to the ring, breaking both his quads half way on the ramp in classic Vince fashion. WWE CFO, Hunter Esq. Thompson McMahon Hemsley runs down the ring to aid his father in law, only to break his quads and take a sick bump. The show comes to an end as Kevin Nash tries to make his way down the ramp and immediately breaks both his quads and Jim Ross shouts "STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!"
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No they're not. Not in terms of making a star or having an actual meaningful, long-term purpose or goal.

This is so fucking stupid. WWE thinks (and convinces its fucking moronic viewers to buy into) the idea that somehow "superstar" v. "superstar" who have never faced each other is great because they say it is. It's fucking trash, serves no purpose, outside of merely drawing eyeballs to an event, and is fucking lazy bullshit. That doesn't preclude it from being entertaining/good as a one off event, but that doesn't mean it's quality content or storytelling.

That's the ultimate problem with WWE... they've basically become the worst wrestling... they can't build or tell stories, they can only sell one off events because the folks in charge are pathetic fucking moronic idiots who don't know how to consistently build quality content/stories and characters. It's fucking ridiculous, and anyone who thinks what they're doing is remotely good is dumber than the folks in charge.
You're still going to watch it just to bitch, sooo....
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Seems its not just one of Million Dollar Man's sons that's currently in legal trouble but also himself regarding an on-going embezzlement scandal in Mississippi.
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No they're not. Not in terms of making a star or having an actual meaningful, long-term purpose or goal.

This is so fucking stupid. WWE thinks (and convinces its fucking moronic viewers to buy into) the idea that somehow "superstar" v. "superstar" who have never faced each other is great because they say it is. It's fucking trash, serves no purpose, outside of merely drawing eyeballs to an event, and is fucking lazy bullshit. That doesn't preclude it from being entertaining/good as a one off event, but that doesn't mean it's quality content or storytelling.

That's the ultimate problem with WWE... they've basically become the worst wrestling... they can't build or tell stories, they can only sell one off events because the folks in charge are pathetic fucking moronic idiots who don't know how to consistently build quality content/stories and characters. It's fucking ridiculous, and anyone who thinks what they're doing is remotely good is dumber than the folks in charge.
That's the point of wrestling, Big. And they've been selling one-off events for how many decades now?

I understand that you're fatigued with WWE. I was too. But I can see they've actually started trying. I think it's got way more to do with the XFL and WWE's other metrics than anything else, but a lot of their shit recently has been pure pro-wrestling shit and way better than anything else in North America.

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So a guy who is going to retire in the next few years as some aging veteran version of a "legend", is going to "be the first guy to submit (to the more aged veteran guy who has already been beaten at Mania) at WrestleMania". Honestly, if you think this is quality, it explains a ton.
Yeah, sure. Why not? Styles is going to be around for a few more years and it adds more stock into his career. If you want him to perceived as a legend, present him as a legend.

That being said, I actually probably wouldn't do the submission finish. It's not necessary -- I was just getting carried away. I think the best visual would be Styles hitting the forearm and Taker trying to sit up, but then clunking down. Styles then hits the Springboard 450 for emphasis and wins the match.
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Found something interesting in regards to the Matt Hardy contract situation in WWE in this week's Observer Newsletter.

Meltzer speculated WWE might try one last attempt to keep Hardy in the company by offering him creative control but then move him to NXT in order to make it happen. If they don't, Hardy going to AEW is almost a lock with ROH as a potential dark horse candidate.

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But he’s also a guy at this stage who wants to be creative, and he won’t get that on the main roster and Vince never went for his gimmick even though he gave it a chance. The one thing is I could see sending him to NXT because he’s a legit name who would mean something there and could work with the younger talent as a way of keeping him. If not, one would think he’s AEW bound and would probably be a featured player there. Because he’s set for life and in the past has chosen creativity over money, it’s not like it’s one of those guys who looks at the money figure and goes this makes a difference later in life and need to take it. Plus, he’ll make good money wherever he goes, but to me the options are either WWE sending him to NXT or him going to AEW because ROH may spend for him and he’s had issues with Impact management and both ROH and Impact at this point may be too under the radar for what he wants
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Matt Hardy using his creativity is not a good thing.
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Matt Hardy using his creativity is not a good thing.
It could be worse, he could speak in a moronic voice and have that be his whole gimmick...oh wait.
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LOL announced for WrestleCon: Joey Ryan, Colt Cabana, and Grado vs Tom Lawlor, Ken Shamrock, and Minoru Suzuki
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Matt Hardy using his creativity is not a good thing.
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Come watch the Outlaw Mudshow get their mudhole stomps as the shooters walk it dry.

Joey Ryan is pretty smart sometimes. I'm not going to pay Joey Ryan for anything but it's a good try.
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Sid is coming to a Comic Con 45 minutes from my house. I know he's going to no show but I have to take the chance.
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He actually made it to a convention I was at in the UK last year.
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I heard that Sid does what he does is because his wife comes from a very wealthy family. Sid takes bookings and then later on decides he doesn't want to do it so he just fucks off and doesn't show.

Lol remember this amazing Sid story

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/s...c3-dresses-sid
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Cena’s very obviously been roiding up. Swollen HGH hands. No Wellness policy in Hollywood.
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Cena’s very obviously been roiding up. Swollen HGH hands. No Wellness policy in Hollywood.
He said before that he's never used 'roids. Hustle, Loyalty, Respect. You need to learn about Respect Vito.
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Cena lookin like the quintessential Florida Man in that pic. Cargo jorts that are too short? Check. Tube socks with 2 lines, double check. White Velcro sneakers? Triple check. And the all important white polo with the goddamn gator on it, cccchhheeeeeecccckkkkk.
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Pro Wrestling Tees are raffling off the boots Eddie Guerrero wore in his last match vs Mr Kennedy on 11/8/05

Vicki donated them and the procedrs are going back to a charity of her choice, but the one thing that irks me a little is they originally thought they were from 2004 when he won the Championship. I'd think Vicki would be a bit more aware of what she had ..

That being said I might throw a buck at it.
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LOL announced for WrestleCon: Joey Ryan, Colt Cabana, and Grado vs Tom Lawlor, Ken Shamrock, and Minoru Suzuki
Jesus Christ. I am just about done with wrestling. The only way this makes sense is if they wrestle a bunch of look-a-likes and then the real deals hit the ring and make them all cry.

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Look who’s talking
What an amazingly creative insult. Not as great as that time you played the race card because I called you creepy, you fucking creep, but you were always destined to fall from stardom.

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Come watch the Outlaw Mudshow get their mudhole stomps as the shooters walk it dry.

Joey Ryan is pretty smart sometimes. I'm not going to pay Joey Ryan for anything but it's a good try.
Joey Ryan is a fucking idiot. Have you ever heard him talk? He can barely string two thoughts together. I'm not joking.

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Cena lookin like the quintessential Florida Man in that pic. Cargo jorts that are too short? Check. Tube socks with 2 lines, double check. White Velcro sneakers? Triple check. And the all important white polo with the goddamn gator on it, cccchhheeeeeecccckkkkk.
That has to be a costume for a film, right? There's no way Cena looks so much like a dad in his free time now.
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Seems MLW is threatening to sue WWE over contract tampering allegations. Similar allegations ROH claimed WWE was doing to them a few years ago.

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When asked if this was in relation to Davey Boy Smith Jr (Harry Smith) appearing this past Wednesday on WWE's The Bump online series, we were told it was not in regard to Smith's appearance but regarding "multiple talents."

Since the advent of MLW signing talents in 2018, the language in the contracts specifically forbids them from working WWE dates, so any direct communication with signed MLW talents would be seen as a breach of contract by MLW management. Obviously, however, discussion via third parties has gone on in pro wrestling since the days of Frank Gotch and will always happen. MLW has strengthened the exclusivity of their contracts with talents since the advent of All Elite Wrestling's launch last year as well.

One MLW source claimed that the promotion had an "abundance" of evidence should the matter need to go to court, but hoped that would not happen.
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What an amazingly creative insult. Not as great as that time you played the race card because I called you creepy, you fucking creep, but you were always destined to fall from stardom.
Not a flame. Merely an observation, young man. Like your strong opinions on items that you rarely seem to watch on a consistent basis.
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Not a flame. Merely an observation, young man. Like your strong opinions on items that you rarely seem to watch on a consistent basis.
You don't need to watch something on a consistent basis to form opinions on what you do see/hear about, dumb-ass. Glad it bothers you though. Die mad about it, Dave.
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You don't need to watch something on a consistent basis to form opinions on what you do see/hear about, dumb-ass. Glad it bothers you though. Die mad about it, Dave.
Calm down, Noid. It's merely an observation. Nothing to get worked up about.
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