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Old 05-30-2018, 11:41 PM   #81
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Not surprised that NXT is going there. I figured 205 Live might as well, if just as supplementary material to fill time on the networks and float their stuff.
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Old 05-30-2018, 11:45 PM   #82
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Not surprised that NXT is going there. I figured 205 Live might as well, if just as supplementary material to fill time on the networks and float their stuff.
That and WWE likely realized the Network is never going to grow to the level they want. They wanted to be at the 4-5 million paid subs range by now and only recently reached the 2 million mark combined with free and paid subs.

Make a ton more money airing NXT episodes on tv than to just keep it on the Network at this point. Same for them considering the idea of selling off the Big 4 to tv networks.
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Old 05-30-2018, 11:50 PM   #83
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I was thinking Triple H would be trying to get NXT on ESPN when they were working closely together. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they put a whole bunch of stuff on FS1/FS2. Mixed Match Challenge, FOX Fatal 4-Way, Main Event, etc.
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Old 05-31-2018, 07:38 PM   #84
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:48 AM   #85
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That and WWE likely realized the Network is never going to grow to the level they want. They wanted to be at the 4-5 million paid subs range by now and only recently reached the 2 million mark combined with free and paid subs.
To be fair, if the WWE's product (with a few rare exceptions) in the last 10+ years wasn't absolute shit, that has actually gotten worse in the last 5+ years, they probably could've gotten way closer to that number. Instead though, they thought they could continue to phone it in without having to make any real changes or put in any real work, and that'd be enough for them to reach their goals.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:15 PM   #86
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If they only have 2 to 3 million viewers per show why would they have 5 million laying subscribers?
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Old 06-01-2018, 07:31 PM   #87
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It was part of some weird math WWE was doing to hype up the Network's debut. Forgot if it was Vince or someone else in the WWE that actually stated they had around 50-100 million fans in the US or some other crazy stat that overly inflated the Network's hype to investors.

Its a big reason why their stocks declined hard shortly after the Network's debut when investors actually managed to see right through WWE's BS claims.
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:30 AM   #88
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Old 06-05-2018, 09:33 AM   #89
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That's a shame, because I would like NXT to get more exposure and get presented as more of a "brand." NXT as developmental is an idea that isn't working.
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:56 PM   #91
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WWE refers to #SDLive as it's "flagship show" in the official announcement of SD moving to FOX in October 2019.

https://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/...?sf192637728=1
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:39 PM   #92
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Post Wrestling on some of the expectations FOX will have for Smackdown and why its not guaranteed Smackdown stays as a primetime show on the network.

WWE pretty much needs to double what they currently get for Smackdown now just to hit close to the average FOX gets for Friday's primetime. Even if it does happen, FOX still going to struggle competing with other networks.

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In 2018, SmackDown Live is averaging 2,515,000 viewers on the USA Network, which is a very respectable viewership average on cable but falls below the network average for Fox. From October 2017 – February 2018, Fox averaged 5,892,000 viewers for their prime-time programming and were trailing NBC, CBS, and ABC. Unlike Raw, SmackDown will find itself in a position where they will need to grow their audience to maintain the status of a prime-time network show on Fox. It is also a new type of product that Fox is going to have to go out and sell to make back their big investment. We saw the lengths that NBC Universal has gone to since the last contract negotiation in 2014 to sell the product, by integrating the WWE with examples like John Cena regularly appearing on the ‘Today Show’, various campaigns they have run and what has led to the WWE having a higher status among advertisers and programmers.
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Old 06-28-2018, 02:46 AM   #93
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It's going to FoxSports1 isn't it? Did they change their minds again?
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That was the rumor if FOX got both RAW and Smackdown. Newest rumor is NXT possibly going to FS1.
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Old 06-28-2018, 06:00 PM   #96
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One more step towards it becoming a completely autonomous brand, I guess.
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Old 06-29-2018, 09:52 PM   #97
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According to Pro Wrestling Sheet and BodySlam.com, WWE is currently rumored to make an official announcement next week of NXT moving to FS1.

FOX is also currently rumored to be getting a revival of Saturday Night’s Main Event show on their main network as part of the tv deal done with the WWE.
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Details via the Observer on the revival of the revival of Saturday Night's Main Event:

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Saturday Night's Main Event, which was first launched in 1985, was a massive ratings success for WWE by 1987. The show is often remembered for its battle royal involving Andre the Giant and Hulk Hogan, before their match at WrestleMania III. WWE attempted to relaunch the show on NBC between 2006 and 2008 but didn't seem to quite capture the magic of the original.
Also Observer confirmed Pro Wrestling Sheet and BodySlam.com reports of NXT moving to FS1 and an official announcement expected to be made very soon.

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NXT TakeOver shows will also expand by one hour, and start airing at 7:00 PM ET. That change is expected to take place probably by November.
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Old 07-01-2018, 02:05 AM   #99
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The return of Saturday Night's Main Event makes sense. I hope they get JR to do the commentary for them.
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Old 07-01-2018, 04:18 AM   #101
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It won't happen, but I'd laugh if it started drawing more than Raw.
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I'd be fine with Neville, Sasha Banks and Bayley going to NXT as more permanent players. With it being on television, the idea of it being developmental should be done and dusted. It's the boutique brand of WWE now. If Vince stays out of it, it could be the closest thing WWE has to giving itself real competition.
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:33 PM   #103
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One more step towards it becoming a completely autonomous brand, I guess.
One could only hope. Seems stupid business wise, but for the good of wrestling overall, they could use stepping out of the shadow of big brother and begin to deviate away from main roster being the endgame.

Hell, I'd be nice to see HHH just buy the damn thing from Vince and essentially do what Shane was rumored to be planning to do with ECW. A small market, touring brand that actually draws money, has a rabid, loyal fanbase, and doesn't need to shuffle everyone upward to fail 19 out of 20 times.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:31 AM   #105
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I forget that even when they try they can't really capture magic these days. The Raw show at the start of this year is a perfect example of that.
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I remember the last run of SNME was awful. They only cared about the first 2, RVD fucked up the 2nd and everyshow after that was bad.
I only remember the ones after for different reasons. Like Finlay out of nowhere doing the Boogeyman strut to mock Boogie and John Cena and Khali having a match, literally one day before they had a WWE Title Match at a ppv.
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Oh right and Khali got the 3 count with just his foot on his chest.
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Oh right and Khali got the 3 count with just his foot on his chest.
Yeah, pretty much was a squash match.
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Also was weird because you know, it opened the show on SNME, yet it was the headliner the following night?

Stupid stupid stupid
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Old 07-03-2018, 03:53 PM   #110
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I think the reasoning for that was they were just trying to give SNME the "old school feel" by having the show open with the main event.
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By the time the match is over anyone with out cable can't really switch over to a drama ten minutes in.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:38 PM   #112
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I wonder if NXT will be live? Id think FOX would want that.
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Old 07-03-2018, 06:03 PM   #113
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I think it has to be. Live programming is specifically what theyre purchasing
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correct me if im wrong but NXT has never been live outside of takeovers...
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I forget that even when they try they can't really capture magic these days. The Raw show at the start of this year is a perfect example of that.
Part of it is they try to control every goddamn and when they get something that's genuine they don't know what to do with it they either take notice way too late for it to matter or they take notice early and run it into the ground
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:53 AM   #116
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But they can't control it very well. They had people falling asleep because they couldn't run in two places at the same time. Creatively that's true though, but their production is surprisingly shitty.
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correct me if im wrong but NXT has never been live outside of takeovers...
Think only the Seasons era was.
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Old 07-04-2018, 07:50 PM   #118
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I thought those were taped prior to SmackDown?
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:14 PM   #119
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Didnt they take the ecw spot which was live after sd! Was taped?
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It took the ECW spot, but I thought that was taped on Tuesday, but apparently it aired on Tuesday too. Had no clue it was live.
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