01-29-2019, 10:53 PM | #81 |
2 Dicks out for Trips
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I look forward to the eventual Brandi Rhodes movie brought to us by The Rock.
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01-30-2019, 12:17 AM | #82 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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Gonna laugh when Dean goes over HHH at Mania.
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01-30-2019, 12:36 AM | #83 |
Trickster Demon
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Fightful and other sites reporting Hideo Itami has asked for and been granted his release as well.
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01-30-2019, 12:46 AM | #84 |
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Hideo is ridiculously limited now. I wanted to see him face D Bry once before he left.
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01-30-2019, 01:26 AM | #85 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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i believe Itami but Ambrose smells like a work.
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01-30-2019, 01:39 AM | #86 | |
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01-30-2019, 03:23 AM | #87 |
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Can someone please explain what benefit there is to this being a work? Like, is there any? Let's say that Ambrose signs with WWE in April -- doesn't he look like a fuckwit for doing this whole "walking out of the company" thing? At best, doesn't it feel like a weak re-tread of the CM Punk stuff? If he beats Triple H at WrestleMania, it's just a Triple H vs. Ambrose match. I don't get what possible reason there would be to release a statement to the media that says that Ambrose is going, leading to people making a stir about AEW and all that. Hell, Ambrose might even get "All Elite" or "AEW" chants of that throughout this hypothetically worked program. What is the point of that?
More likely, as John Pollock pointed out, is that WWE received so many questions from actual people in the media about it, and to keep good channels of communication open, they've come clean and reported the truth. Ronda Rousey got all that attention too and WWE came out and spoke about her contract status. Occam's razor really suggest that Ambrose has probably said I'm definitely going, WWE has been asked about it, so they've done a statement that sounds amicable. If anything is a work, it seems more reasonable that it would be WWE trying to maintain a good relationship with Dean Ambrose so he doesn't look like such a babyface for sticking it to them. |
01-30-2019, 03:24 AM | #88 |
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This reminds me of when Jeff Jarrett left the WWF in 1999, and WWF.com were releasing all those sweet-talking statements about what a gentleman and stand-up guy Jeff Jarrett was. It was to get him into the buildings and doing business heading into the show.
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01-30-2019, 03:24 AM | #89 |
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Would love it if KENTA and Gran Metalik left too. I imagine Metalik's contract must be coming up, because he was polling people as to whether he should go to CMLL or AAA or something.
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01-30-2019, 03:26 AM | #90 |
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As for KENTA being limited, I wonder how much of that is just WWE-style and him being, perhaps, really unhappy in that company. I just heard recently that WWE actually let him work the Pro Wrestling NOAH 20th Anniversary Show, which shocked the hell out of me. But apparently he had an excellent match with Naomichi Marufuji? I'm yet to see it.
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01-30-2019, 03:54 AM | #91 |
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01-30-2019, 09:21 AM | #92 |
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He's really bland and boring.
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01-30-2019, 10:08 AM | #93 |
It's a blood match!
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Kenta sucked in WWE until that four-way at the Rumble. He was awesome. I’m glad for
him to leave because you can see how this run has poorly affected him. Hopefully he gets back to NOAH and maybe even NJPW. |
01-30-2019, 11:29 AM | #94 | |
Resident drug enabler
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01-30-2019, 11:32 AM | #95 |
Cranky Kong
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He had a banger with Aleister Black too.
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01-30-2019, 02:23 PM | #96 |
Resident drug enabler
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01-30-2019, 02:32 PM | #97 |
I'm all there is
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When i first saw this I thought this guy is going to be the savior of wrestling .
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01-30-2019, 03:48 PM | #98 | |
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01-30-2019, 03:57 PM | #99 |
boop/bop/beep
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a corporate branded name such as thelunaticfringedeanambrose doesn't really scream authentic crazy person.
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01-30-2019, 04:16 PM | #100 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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01-30-2019, 04:24 PM | #101 |
boop/bop/beep
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01-30-2019, 04:39 PM | #102 |
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I’d be pissed off if the company I worked for got me to suggest that one of my mate’s leukaemia was cosmic justice, and it flattened my career with them anyway.
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01-30-2019, 04:43 PM | #103 |
Inno Knows.
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01-30-2019, 05:08 PM | #104 |
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You can imagine Vince promising Ambrose it would be great, Ambrose not wanting to do it, Vince promising great heat, then Ambrose coming out to cricket farts.
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01-30-2019, 08:03 PM | #105 |
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Watching KENTA vs. Marufuji from just a few months ago right now. It's a fucking good match. KENTA is working like a pure heel thus far. His facial expressions are excellent. He's got great presence. Set up the story of him being the "bad dude" by trying to kick Marufuji off a break after Marufuji showed him the respect of a clean one. It's now going into a more back and forth contest.
Man, KENTA's facial expressions are really fucking good. They're kind of what I'm taking away from this. He's a great storyteller. |
01-30-2019, 10:52 PM | #106 |
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01-31-2019, 01:28 AM | #107 |
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Man, I loved the Ambrose FCW stuff. Double or Nothing ending with with an Ambrose promo like this could be epic.
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01-31-2019, 07:41 AM | #108 |
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01-31-2019, 10:08 AM | #109 |
Grim Fandango
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Ambrose actually looked better when he looked "worse" IMO. The short hair and beard make him look so generic and boring. The straggly hair and stubble was a unique look and if he kept that, still beefed up but got some actual wrestling gear he would look more of a star.
Haven't seen him actually work since he came back though, does he still do that goofy "get stuck in the ropes then hit a weak as fuck clothesline" spot? Horrible signature. |
01-31-2019, 06:11 PM | #110 | |
Loque Ja
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01-31-2019, 06:41 PM | #111 |
dirty irani
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Looking forward to The Shield reunion when Reigns returns with Seth and Fake Dean Ambrose.
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01-31-2019, 07:06 PM | #112 | |
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He doesn't really have that larger than life look at all. He's pretty tall and in good shape, but he's not a huge guy by superhero standards, so he's kind of like a big normal dude that sometimes has hair and sometimes doesn't. |
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01-31-2019, 07:07 PM | #113 |
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The Bane gimmick was fucking awful. Holy shit, way to make a guy in the best shape of his life (possibly) look shit by comparing him to a movie character that was huge.
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01-31-2019, 08:40 PM | #114 |
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For some perspective on how frustrated Dean was in the WWE, X-Pac thinks the deal that Dean turned down was likely around $3 million per year based on his past experience with contracts and how WWE handles downside guarantees.
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01-31-2019, 08:41 PM | #115 |
Trickster Demon
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Dean should wrestle Nia Jax in a loser has to wear a Weasel suit at WM!!
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01-31-2019, 08:47 PM | #116 |
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That's brilliant.
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01-31-2019, 09:07 PM | #117 | |
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That being said, I totally buy Dean being frustrated. I would HATE WWE if they got me to do the things they’ve asked him to do. I probably would have tried to quit earlier. I really wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the first of quite a few surprises. |
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01-31-2019, 10:01 PM | #118 |
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He did admit his guess was based on some rough math. Only had the report of Dean's new deal having a $1 million downside and his past knowledge of WWE's percentages to work with. Would also mean that wrestlers get roughly a third of their contract as paid guarantees.
If I remember, Dean's current contract is rumored to be somewhere around $1-$2 million per year. All 3 Shield guys were also rumored to be among the highest earners in the WWE. |
01-31-2019, 10:16 PM | #119 |
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I can imagine that a $1 million downside guarantee would come up with some special events and merch sales and all that. I mean, it sounds like they get paid specifically for the Saudi shows, and those are pretty hefty sums.
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01-31-2019, 11:24 PM | #120 | |
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That being said, I'm more inclined to believe like you guys said, a downside guarantee of roughly a million per year. That has always seemed to be the max for big stars who aren't the top stars. Then again who knows what they are doing with the new tv deals. Maybe they are going to switch up contracts to bigger guarantees but less percentages of everything else. |
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