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Old 09-04-2018, 04:47 PM   #41
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just got 2nd row tickets 2 seats from the stage. Very cool. I see the people behind me are selling their tickets for over $3,000 a pop lol. Probably gonna grab NXT tickets and go to whichever one looks better. Hopefully the MSG show gives us some classic New Japan matches and not ROH vs. NJPW. Not interested in tag matches. I wanna see something like Tanahashi vs. Okada, Ishii vs. Omega, something that you know is gonna be a war.
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Old 09-04-2018, 05:00 PM   #42
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I'm not sure about either of that. I don't think anything is really *drawing* people. It's a show in the Garden on WrestleMania weekend.

It's 100% New Japan
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Old 09-04-2018, 05:00 PM   #43
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Ok, maybe 99% New Japan
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Old 09-04-2018, 05:17 PM   #44
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I hope the card looks like this:

Main Event- IWGP Heavyweight Title Match- Kenny Omega (C) vs. Kazuchika Okada

#1 Contender For IWGP Heavyweight Title Match- Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tomohiro Ishii

ROH World Title Match- Jay Lethal (C) vs. Rush

NWA World Heavyweight Title Match- Cody Rhodes (C) vs. Flip Gordon

IWGP & ROH World Tag Team Title 4-Way Ladder Match- The Young Bucks (C) vs. The Briscoes vs. EVIL & SANADA vs. Best Friends

IWGP Intercontinental Title Match- Chris Jericho (C) vs. Dalton Castle

IWGP United States Title Match- Juice Robinson (C) vs. Minoru Suzuki

IWGP Junior Heavyweight Title Match- KUSHIDA (C) vs. Will Ospreay

ROH World TV Title Match- Punishment Martinez (C) vs. Marty Scurll

Hiromu Takahashi Return Match- Hiromu Takahashi vs. Dragon Lee

6 Man Tag Match- CHAOS (Hirooki Goto, Jay White, & Toru Yano) vs. SCU (Christopher Daniels, Frankie Kazarian, & Scorpio Sky)

6 Man Tag Match- The Kingdom vs. Team CMLL (Negro Casas, Ultimo Guerrero, & Volador Jr.)

I can't think of what I'd do with Naito or Ibushi but right now that's what I'd hope for for this card.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:49 AM   #45
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They're not putting every title on the line
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:22 PM   #46
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I know that's why I left off The Firing Squad and the NJPW NEVER Openweight 6 Man Tag Team Championships.
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:51 AM   #47
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It's 100% New Japan
No way, it's a wrestling "other."
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Old 09-06-2018, 08:15 AM   #48
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Noid, I feel like u "don't know what you are talking about".

It would not randomly sell out "just because it isn't WWE"....New Japan has been red hot for a lot of hardcore fans for over a year and a half now. If IMPACT booked MSG it wouldn't have sold out, same for ROH alone. New Japan has a different type of prestige to it those two feds don't and haven't had.
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If New Japan had booked MSG on their own they wouldn't have sold out. They couldn't sell out that venue in California. There's buzz about other big shows that aren't WWE at the moment, because everyone is disenchanted with the current WWE product. The people who care about New Japan have also heard of ROH and probably watch WWE and are the sort of people who are interested in Mania weekend.

If it were just New Japan, Vince would have blocked them too. ROH's parent company has the stature to make this possible. The New Japan relationship has been ROH "reaching" for a while, but New Japan is actually getting something out of it now that Sinclair have started muscling it around a bit.
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Old 09-06-2018, 08:25 AM   #50
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By the way, I didn't say it would "randomly sell out" or suggest that PWG would do the same or anything. What I'm saying is that it's not like people would sleep on this because it's ROH and then suddenly go "Oh shit, it's also New Japan? I'm there!" New Japan definitely helps them, but it's a wrestling company with smark equity playing in Vince's backyard during a period of time where shows like All In can have success.

When it comes to wrestling that isn't WWE, I think people underestimate the overlap in the Venn diagram of fandom. People who give a shit about New Japan and people who give a shit about ROH aren't these completely different circles.
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Old 09-06-2018, 08:29 AM   #51
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If New Japan pulled out of this show, I don't think you get 18,000 people asking for refunds.
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