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Old 09-25-2019, 03:22 PM   #41
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Kojima, Nakanishi & Nagata should all safely reset their timers unless something highly unexpected happens with their young lions.

El Phantasmo is certainly getting a big push, but as one half of the Jr Tag Champs and the Jr Tag League being the next tour after this show it's hard to see him being pushed as double champion. Especially when Hiromu Takahashi Is SURELY GOING TO COME BACK NOW AND CHALLENGE OSPREAY GOD FUCKING DAMN IT WHERE IS HIROMU? I HAVE CALLED HIS RETURN AT LEAST SIX TIMES NOW, IT'S GOTTA BE HERE BUSHI NEEDS A TAG PARTNER TO CARRY HIM THROUGH THE TOURNAMENT AGAIN AHHHH. So yeah, I think he's toast, but what do I know?

Tiger Mask is in there with a couple of lunatics so who knows if we even get a real match there and if we do it's a toss up if Tiger or Kanemaru get's wrecked.

Juice Robinson is safe from a TIME'S UP, however, the "TIME BIKER" Jon Moxley seems very likely to defeat him at KING of PRO WRESTLING. It wouldn't be too outlandish for Juice to go over here but it would all seem quite pointless and with Shota about to head out on excursion you have to believe he's going to go out helping his adoptive dather retain here. I'm not counting him out just yet, we all know Gedo likes to throw out curveballs to sabotage TPWW Survivor.

Togi Makabe, poor old Togi Makabe. I can definitely see him taking the pin for his best friend Tanahashi's anniversary celebration. 100%. But also Tanahashi is teaming with Honma and Honma's current finish is getting pinned no matter the circumstances. Makabe is definitely out and definitely safe at the same time.

Which brings us to Kota Ibushi, G1 Winner, top prospect to win Season 5. Ibushi will face his most dangerous matches to date as he teams with Okada (awful win / loss record in tag matches) to face EVIL & SANADA (2x former Tag Team Champions). SANADA and Okada are very unlikely to take a fall in either of these matches, which means either Ibushi or EVIL is taking the pin. To double the danger, these back to back matches could result in the two teams trading wins or since it's not even a spoiler to say EVIL and SANADA are losing the singles matches, they have got to be hot favourites in the tags. If Ibushi survives this you can believe he's good until January. IF.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:27 PM   #42
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According to New Japan World's schedule only one of the US shows will be available to watch, even though I've heard people saying the other shows with be VOD. Not sure where they have seen that, but just going off the official website only that show will count, alongside one televised show from NEW JAPAN ROAD and then the next big event KING of PRO WRESTLING.
Only the NY show is airing live on New Japan World although with only Japanese commentary as an option. The others are getting the tape delay treatment like with last month's Super J-Cup tournament.

Only person remaining who is at risk is Kota since they could have EVIL pin him on one of the three shows to hype up their upcoming WK contract match.
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You have a shot, just like the one Dean Ambrose got that one time.

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He has one tag match to get through against Suzuki and Drunk Uncle Kanemaru, then he could potentially be in a round robin tag tournament for the rest of October.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:29 PM   #44
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Only the NY show is airing live on New Japan World although with only Japanese commentary as an option. The others are getting the tape delay treatment like with last month's Super J-Cup tournament.

Only person remaining who is at risk is Kota since they could have EVIL pin him on one of the three shows to hype up their upcoming WK contract match.
Are they running Okada / Ibushi vs EVIL / SANADA on all three shows? That would make his survival odds even worse.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:33 PM   #45
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No but him vs. EVIL in some form is on all the shows.

Sept 27 - Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kota Ibushi, & Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito, EVIL, & SANADA
Sept 28 - Kota Ibushi & Kazuchika Okada vs. EVIL & SANADA
Sept 29 - TJP & Kota Ibushi vs. BUSHI & EVIL

The first two shows are the biggest threats for him but the last one has TJP locked in as a pin eater if needed.

Juice is also on all the shows but only the last one is threat worthy.

Sept 29 - Roppongi 3K (SHO & YOH) & Juice Robinson vs. Shingo Takagi, SANADA, & Tetsuya Naito
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:36 PM   #46
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You have a shot, just like the one Dean Ambrose got that one time.



He has one tag match to get through against Suzuki and Drunk Uncle Kanemaru, then he could potentially be in a round robin tag tournament for the rest of October.
There's a guy called Drunk Uncle?

AND I WENT WITH TIGER MASK?
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Tough schedule for Kota that's for sure, as for the Juice six-man I'd call Shingo beating SHO again as is tradition.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:42 PM   #48
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Yeah this guy.



He drinks whisky during his entrance and sometimes spits it in people eyes.

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Ok, I don't want him anymore.

Who the fuck spits whisky? YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DRINK IT, YOU WEIRD LITTLE ASIAN GUY.
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If he just drank the whisky nobody would boo him. Gotta get that heat.
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Oh, so he's a heel. Makes sense.

Polish audience would kick the shit out of his ass for wasting booze.
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Tiger Mask just became the hot favourite to win the game as he's entering the Super Jrs Tag Tournament, which runs until November, with a young lion for a tag partner. Such a dad move.
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:16 AM   #53
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Dads on Tour.

Nakanishi (52)
Nagata (51)
Kojima (49)
(NPC Champion) Tenzan (48)
Makabe (47)
Tiger Mask (43)

Young whippersnap Tiger Mask is primed to take this home, realistically all he has to do is avoid being pinned during the Super Jr Tag League. None of the other Dads are booked for Super Jr Tag League, so if they have any hope of refreshing their timer they will have to either show up on the US shows NEW JAPAN SHOWDOWN (9th and 11th of November) or enter the World Tag League (starting 16th November) where they will surely be pinned unless they can grab a Young Lion tag partner of their own.

Tiger Mask's SJTL partner, Yuya Uemura is the young lion of the lowest order, finishing last in this years Young Lion Cup. While the team and super likely to lose every single match, Tiger Mask SHOULD NEVER TAKE THE FALL. However, you must remember that Tiger Mask legit forgot to kick out of a roll up earlier this year during The Best of Super Jrs Tournament.

He must survive:

16/10 (SJTL) vs Team CMLL [Titan / Volador Jr]
17/10 (SJTL) vs Coach 2 Coach [Rocky / Taguchi]
19/10 (SJTL) vs Bullet Club [Phantasmo / BONER]
21/10 (w/ Karl Fredricks) vs vs Bullet Club [Phantasmo / BONER]
22/10 (w/ Yota Tsuji) vs Team CMLL [Titan / Volador Jr]
23/10 (w/ Karl Fredricks) vs Tsuji / Honma
25/10 (w/ Yota Tsuji) vs Bullet Club [Phantasmo / BONER]
26/10 (w/ Yota Tsuji) vs Bullet Club [Phantasmo / BONER]
27/10 (SJTL) vs Birds of War [Eagles / Ospreay]
28/10 (SJTL) vs Suzuki-Gun [Desperado / Kanemaru]
30/10 (SJTL) vs Roppongi 3k [SHO / YOH]
31/10 (SJTL) vs Clark Connors / TJP
1/11 (w/ Uemura / Liger) vs Tsuji / Connors / TJP
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Will Ospreay eliminates both of my entrants lol
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Tiger Mask survived all his tournament matches, as expected.



I've been killing lots of these little Jr Heavyweight bastards in Dragon Quest XI though, because damn you Tiger Mask! This was supposed to be Makabe's turn!
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Old 11-06-2019, 02:26 PM   #56
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World Tag League begins on 16th November, the teams are as follows (in order of importance):

DEATH PIRATE [EVIL / SANADA]
Guerillas of Destiny [Tama Tonga / Tanga Loa]
CHAOS [YOSHI-HASHI / Tomohiro Ishii]
Fin Juice [David Finlay / Juice Robinson]
Dangerous Tekkers [Taichi / Zack Sabre Jr]
Boom Thief [Colt Cabana / Toru Yano]
Suzuki-gun [Minoru Suzuki / Lance Archer]
Los Ingobernables [Shingo Takagi / Terrible]
Bullet Club [KENTA / Yujiro]
The Mighty Don't Elgin [Mikey Nicholls / Jeff Cobb]
The Area 51 Experience [Bad Luck Fale / Chase Owens]
Great Bash Heel [Togi Makabe / Tomoaki Honma]
TenCozy [Hiroyoshi Tenzan / Satoshi Kojima]
Team DAD [Manabu Nakanishi / Yuji Nagata]
A Spade for The Ace [Hiroshi Tanahashi / Toa Henare]
LA Dojo [Hirooki Goto / Karl Fredericks]
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As you can see from the list, all of our surviving participants are in the bottom end of point expectancy.

Nakanishi and Kojima will NOT survive this tour. Absolutely no chance.

Yuji Nagata has a slight chance, but due to the schedule he might take a few big bumps for Nakanishi as NPC Tenzan will do for Kojima. I'd say he's also gone (and I'm looking at Fale to do it at the very least).

Big Togi has a slightly larger chance since he's teaming with Honma, and while I've placed them low, if any of the older teams are going to get a nice run it should be these guys. They were back to back winners before Honma got injured and this is their first time entering since. Honma eats a lot of pins, but that's not to say Makabe is as protected as he has been in the past. He is however, in a much stronger position for survival than if he had tagged with Yano, but a somewhat worse position than tagging with Henare.

Then there's Tiger Mask. Tiger Mask Tiger Mask Tiger Mask. I'll get onto this more when we look at the schedule but he's not looking as good as he should be...
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Just going to post the game relevant matches of each card, if your interested in full cards here's a link: https://www.njpw1972.com/schedule/

16th November
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs Los Ingobernables [Shingo / Terrible]
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs Bullet Club [Yujiro / Kenta]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs A Spade For The Ace [Tanahashi / Henare]

17th November
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs Fin Juice [Finlay / Juice]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata]

18th November
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs LA Dojo [Goto / Fredericks]
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs The Mighty Don't Elgin [Mikey / Cobb]
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs A Spade For The Ace [Tanahashi / Henare]

19th November
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs LA Dojo [Goto / Fredericks]
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs A Spade For The Ace [Tanahashi / Henare]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs Fin Juice [Finlay / Juice]

21st November
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs LA Dojo [Goto / Fredericks]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan]

23rd November
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs The Mighty Don't Elgin [Mikey / Cobb]
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs DEATH PIRATE [EVIL / SANADA]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs Boom Thief [Cabana / Yano]

24th November
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs Suzuki-Gun [Suzuki / Archer]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs The Area 51 Experience [Fale / Chase]
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs CHAOS [YOSHI / Ishii]

25th November
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs Boom Thief [Cabana / Yano]
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs Fin Juice [Finlay / Juice]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs CHAOS [YOSHI / Ishii]

27th November
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs CHAOS [YOSHI / Ishii]
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs Suzuki-Gun [Suzuki / Archer]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs Dangerous Tekkers [Taichi / Sabre]

28th November
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs The Area 51 Experience [Fale / Chase]
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs Bullet Club [KENTA / Yujiro]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs Suzuki-Gun [Suzuki / Archer]
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29th November
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs Boom Thief [Cabana / Yano]
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs Dangerous Tekkers [Taichi / Sabre]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs G.O.D [Tonga / Loa]

1st December
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs The Mighty Don't Elgin [Mikey / Cobb]
CHAOS [SHO / YOH / Okada] vs Sekigun [Ibushi / Liger / Tiger]

2nd December
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs Los Ingobernables [Shingo / Terrible]
CHAOS [SHO / YOH / Okada] vs Sekigun [Ibushi / Liger / Tiger]

3rd December
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs vs Dangerous Tekkers [Taichi / Sabre]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs Bullet Club [Yujiro / Kenta]
CHAOS [SHO / YOH / Okada] vs Sekigun [Ibushi / Liger / Tiger]
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs vs G.O.D [Tonga / Loa]

5th December
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs The Area 51 Experience [Fale / Chase]
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs DEATH PIRATE [EVIL / SANADA]
CHAOS [SHO / YOH / Okada] vs Sekigun [Ibushi / Liger / Tiger]

6th December
Great Bash Heel [Makabe / Honma] vs Los Ingobernables [Shingo / Terrible]
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs G.O.D [Tonga / Loa]
TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan] vs DEATH PIRATE [EVIL / SANADA]
CHAOS [SHO / YOH / Okada] vs Sekigun [Ibushi / Liger / Tiger]

8th December
Team DAD [Nakanishi / Nagata] vs TenCozy [Kojima / Tenzan]
CHAOS [SHO / YOH / Okada] vs Sekigun [Ibushi / Liger / Tiger]
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Old 11-06-2019, 03:30 PM   #60
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As you can probably figure out, as soon as we hit December 1st, Tiger Mask is fucking extinct for a week. The only question is - will anyone else be able to survive until then?

Also Dangerous Tekkers and GBH are not even booked for the last show, in case you wanted confirmation on those two teams not winning the whole thing.
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:14 PM   #61
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Final three already as Nakanishi and Kojima start taking falls early on. This could be over in a flash.
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Old 11-29-2019, 11:34 AM   #62
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Tiger Mask is joining the party on Sunday, Makabe and Nagata still stubbornly refuse to lose. It's anyone's guess who takes it but currently it's advantage Nagata. He barely even interacted with his former protégé Fale and Nakanishi is still insisting on taking every bump possible. The mad old bastard might actually go two wins in two seasons. More importantly, last place SANADA still has a chance to be on the winning team. He's so good.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:49 PM   #63
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Tiger Mask has been hunted to extinction. Much like Vito was victimised by Will Ospreay, Both of Sixx's guys were pinned by Okada.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:55 AM   #64
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Makabe has made it out alive, Nagata faces Tencozy on Sunday and probably is going to get a win there. This one could go on for a while...
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:27 AM   #65
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Cards until WK are out, Makabe is part of the three road to shows in the opening tag matches, he has both Honma and new lions as partners so it would be a shock to see him lose.

Nagata is not booked for any of the shows. He has until the 19th of January to wrestle, meaning he must appear as part of the Fantasticamania tour, or get added to a match at New Years Dash. He could of course be a participant in the New Japan rumble of they add it to the WK card (they didnt last year).

It's not over yet.
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So that fucking Okada guy eliminated both of my guys? Asshole.
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Old 12-17-2019, 10:28 AM   #68
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Nagata and Nakanishi vs Tencozy and the six man tag title gauntlet (Makabe is still a champ and unlike Honma or Nakanishi, Yano and Taguchi aren't guaranteed to eat the loss) have been added to WK Night 2. The survivor gods smile down on Yuji Nagata this Christmas.
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Did he beat my guys over some toys?
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He didn't even share his dick balloons with them to be fair.
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I'm still catching up on watching Wrestle Kingdom but I've seen that both Nagata and Makabe survived the event. They could both appear at New Years Dash tomorrow, but then we have Fantasticamania, which most of the roster takes off. Wouldn't expect them to be on that one but cant rule it out entirely. The New Beginning tour in January / February would then be the last chance for them to beat the clock and I'm pretty confident they both will. Failing an unlikely high profile singles match or another bumper edition New Japan Cup for this one could keep running indefinitely. Even if Makabe gets back in the G1, that's moved to later in the year due to the Olympics.

Hope Nagata randomly comes out tomorrow and challenges for a belt. Or gets pinned by Tsuji. Fingers crossed.
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:32 AM   #73
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All caught up, here's the lay of the land:

Nagata's timer runs out on 15th Feb, Makabe on the 16th Feb.

As expected, neither are on the Fantasticamania tour (10th Jan - 20th Jan).
There is New Beginning USA scheduled from 24th Jan - 1st Feb, the older guys don't tend to work these shows but, again, can't rule it out.
Running concurrently, The NEW BEGINNING tour runs from 25th Jan - 9th Feb with marquee shows on the 1st, 2nd & 9th.

Cards for New Beginning will only be revealed following Fantasticamania, but there's a twist. Nagata's lost time tag partner and rival Nakanishi will be retiring early into the NEW JAPAN ROAD tour (19th-22nd Feb are his available dates). Nagata is a lock for these events, but time will have expired by the time the tour begins. There's always the chance for the retirement tour to begin earlier, during The NEW BEGINNING but with Nakanishi so broken down they might want to save it.

Of course either guy could get booked on NEW BEGINNING so its not over yet, and providing they both do this wont be until at least NEW JAPAN CUP in March (and thats IF either of them participates in the tournament).

We wont know anything else until the 21st.

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Old 01-08-2020, 06:23 AM   #74
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Oh wow, Fantasticamania so inconsequential they released the New Beginning Cards already.

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Nagata has already dumped Nakanishi and is teaming with Kojima on the New Beginning USA tour.

Nakanishi is teaming with Tenzan back in Japan... against Makabe and his numerous partners.

Also Nagata must have taken the news very badly because hes challenging Lance Archer in a singles match on the 26th.

I am going to cry when Nakanishi pins Makabe on the 25th.
If Nagata somehow survives Archer and the rest of the US tour he will join the rest of the dads to take on Team Makabe on the final day of the Japan tour. Clocks away. Circle the 26th on your calendars.
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Old 01-25-2020, 11:21 AM   #75
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Makabe drops the knee of Nakanishi.
Will Nagata make the Murderhawk Monster tap out tomorrow night?
We'll find out as TPWW Survivor Japan rolls on!
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Nagata took a claw and got pinned tonight. This season is actually over. I can't believe it.
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Archer.

Came very close to pulling off the bookend with having both the first guy eliminated and last guy remaining this season.
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