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Old 10-28-2011, 07:05 PM   #1
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Should they bring back the Hardcore title?
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"If the Hardcore title ever does make a comeback, alliances will crumble and insanity will rule in its place, with an iron fist stronger than any potential RAW General Manager could ever dream of wielding. Whoever will place it around their waist will instantly be painting a target on their back. Everybody will be their enemy. Big, small, Superstar, Diva: all will be potential challengers, ready to pounce to win their own piece of glory.

WWE.com says: Bring back hardcore havoc!"
I'm all for it. Guys like Santino Marella, Tyler Reks, and Zack Ryder would be great for it.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:12 PM   #2
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I enjoyed it initially,but it became a comedy title with the 24/7 rule, last thing they need is another meaningless title.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:47 PM   #3
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Screw this PG B.S. Call it the "Hardcore Porn" title. Holder gets Jenna haze as a valet,and Val venis as a ring announcer.
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There is no way the Hardcore Division would ever work in this PG-13 era..... there's no more blood or any kind of weapon shots to the head.....
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:30 PM   #5
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I don't think people realize the lack of blood in hardcore matches. They could easily be done in the PG era.

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Old 10-28-2011, 08:58 PM   #6
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I counted 3 headshots in that 5-minute match that we wouldn't see today......
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Take out the headshots, and you've still got a decent hardcore match.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:07 PM   #8
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I agree with Nicky Fives.

Plus the last thing I want to see is some stupid shit match in the locker room with Kofi Kingston's music blasting, his hair flying around while he runs off with the title.

Or, and I shudder to think, Michael Cole.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:11 PM   #9
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I don't like the idea of the Hardcore division coming back as what it was before. The 24/7 rule was a joke. I would love to see it come back and have a sort of ECW-style feel to it. The matches wouldn't start with guys coming down to the ring with shopping carts full of weapons, but they would work matches where there were no disqualifications and weapons would certainly make their way into the match at some point. But no ring filled with weapons and guys taking turns hitting each other with random shit matches. More like a normal match where a steel chair or two is implemented in various ways.

Jerry Lynn and RVD were very good at this in ECW. They had some of the most incredible matches I've ever seen, and yes, they used steel chairs, and yes it was under extreme rules, but at no point did the weapons overshadow the wrestling. If we were given that kind of a Hardcore division I would be all about it, but the last thing we need in the WWE is more throwaway, garbage wrestling.
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Vince: "Mike, we're gonna put the hardcore title on you."

Cole: "Really?"

Vince: "Yeah."

Cole: "Who's gonna drop it to me?"

Vince: "Well, we're trying to talk Ross into it, but he's being difficult. He might drop it to Mathews, who would get a month or so with the title before dropping it to you at the Rumble."
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:18 PM   #11
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Bring back Crash Holly. Oh wait! No they shouldn't bring it back as he was the greatest champ evar!
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:36 PM   #12
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Bring back Crash Holly. Oh wait! No they shouldn't bring it back as he was the greatest champ evar!
I like the hardcore title, it appeals to the violent nature everyone has. I could see it being done in TNA (sees a commercial for the Muppets hosting RAW) but not in WWE. I would love to see Rob Terry cracked over the head with a chair or Aries put though a table.


Side Note, I'm not sure if you know but Crash is dead bro.
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WWE doesn't have the type of guys that fit the mold for a hardcore division anymore.
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give it to Ryder and have him defend it on youtube
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I like the hardcore title, it appeals to the violent nature everyone has. I could see it being done in TNA (sees a commercial for the Muppets hosting RAW) but not in WWE. I would love to see Rob Terry cracked over the head with a chair or Aries put though a table.


Side Note, I'm not sure if you know but Crash is dead bro.
I was alluding to that fact in my post homey!
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WWE doesn't have the type of guys that fit the mold for a hardcore division anymore.
Homicide could be an addition if we're looking for characters that would fit the mold.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:28 PM   #17
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Take out the headshots, and you've still got a decent hardcore match.
I respectfully disagree..... Personally, I can only take so many trashcan shots to the back and stomach......
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Yes!

It will give all the low carders something to do, and have an extra storyline in the process. It should have 24/7 rules intact and be defended on both shows tho...
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Yes!

It will give all the low carders something to do, and have an extra storyline in the process. It should have 24/7 rules intact and be defended on both shows tho...
I'd prefer to have a version of the FCW 15-minute Title that would be defended mostly on Superstars and NXT, and occasionally on Raw & Smackdown.....
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Let's see them bring worth to the current undercard titles before creating a new one.

As for a division, it really wouldn't fit into the current WWE landscape. And really, having a gimmick match like that on every show would get to be a bit much. It worked in the Attitude Era because it was crash TV. It's no longer crash TV, so, again, it wouldn't fit.
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I'd prefer to have a version of the FCW 15-minute Title that would be defended mostly on Superstars and NXT, and occasionally on Raw & Smackdown.....
Not a bad idea. It should be exclusive to Superstars though. You could have the champion appear on different shows to keep feuds going, but the title should only be defended on Superstars. It would give some legitimacy to Superstars. Otherwise, it's a waste of time.

Adding a Hardcore title would create more opportunities for people, if done the right way. It could replace the Divas Championship.
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As much as the Divas division/title is hated, getting rid of it would be a huge mistake. The divas are a draw for the female population. Could they get better workers? Abso-fucking-lutely. But the division (and title) deserves a permanet spot.
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Always enjoyed how the women were used in 1998 right before they brought back the title. No reason why they can't do now what they did with Jacqueline and Sable then.
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The divas are a draw for the female population.
This is not true at all. The women that I hang out with, they don't watch for the divas. Hell, to most girls, they are considered whores. Which probably isn't far from the truth. But to say the divas draw from the female population is plain wrong.
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This is not true at all. The women that I hang out with, they don't watch for the divas. Hell, to most girls, they are considered whores. Which probably isn't far from the truth. But to say the divas draw from the female population is plain wrong.
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Rather see the Cruiserweight title return or maybe the TV title from WCW for the smaller or lesser used guys to fight over it. FCW has a tv title although the WCW 10 minute limit would work better than the FCW 15 minute limit for a quick match.

They could even make the TV title exclusive to NXT since its now becoming the new "Superstars" show even though it doesn't show on TV in the US.

Cruiserweight title at least lets most of the smaller or non-big men wrestlers have something to do since the WWE has plenty of these types of wrestlers.
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like the 10 gimmick themed ppv's arent bad enough now you want a gimmick title...ugh
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No. WWE does not need to go to the past to move forward. Also, HC may not fit in well with the current climate and direction which is great.
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There is no way the Hardcore Division would ever work in this PG-13 era..... there's no more blood or any kind of weapon shots to the head.....
And they actually protect their assets some these days.
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like the 10 gimmick themed ppv's arent bad enough now you want a gimmick title...ugh
To be fair, between the gimmick PPVs and the gimmick title, I'd take the gimmick title. At least that would be forgotten in six months.
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No. WWE does not need to go to the past to move forward. Also, HC may not fit in well with the current climate and direction which is great.
Are many more things going to be coming from this direction?
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Nah, no specific reason. Just wouldn't really be interested in seeing it to be honest.

Plus, to be fair, most PPV's usually have one or two titles bumped from the show anyway, the last thing they'd need is another title.
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As much as the Divas division/title is hated, getting rid of it would be a huge mistake. The divas are a draw for the female population. Could they get better workers? Abso-fucking-lutely. But the division (and title) deserves a permanet spot.
Yup... And the hardcore title brought back? If it is done right, but I don't see that happening... They would probably give it to Hornswoggle or someone of that caliber... Ugh...
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Yup... And the hardcore title brought back? If it is done right, but I don't see that happening... They would probably give it to Hornswoggle or someone of that caliber... Ugh...
Hornswoggle holding the Hardcore title is perfect for that division.
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I would not like to see the Hardcore Title back. If they did have to introduce another title, I'd suggest something like the FCW 15 Title -- whoever scores the most falls in fifteen minutes wins the match and the title. Have it defended on both shows.
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Not a bad idea. It should be exclusive to Superstars though. You could have the champion appear on different shows to keep feuds going, but the title should only be defended on Superstars. It would give some legitimacy to Superstars. Otherwise, it's a waste of time
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