Official Raw Thread For 10/31/11 - It's Time To Play The Music, It's Time To Light The Lights

[Lock Jaw]

It's Time To Play The Game, On Monday RAW Tonight!

Sup?

TPWW Chat: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=109788





SCREW ANYONE WHO SAYS "TOO EARLY". I wanted to make the thread, and I am heading out now.

I will be back in time to view RAW though. I am incredibly hyped for it.

[Lock Jaw]

Hope we get some Sheamus/Beaker interactions.

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[XL]

Stupidly excited for this. Not even a fan of the Muppets. Just think it'll make for some funny stuff.

I'm expecting a Sheamus/Beaker interaction. And something with Miss Piggy/Kelly Kelly/Vickie G.

[Testicle]

Sweet, another 2 hours of HHH...

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Nah, Gonzo's rumoured to not be there.

[Xero]

Stupidly excited for this. Not even a fan of the Muppets. Just think it'll make for some funny stuff.

Yeah, last few weeks I've been indifferent to it, and even to the point of "ugh, that's stupid", but with news of some of the segments planned, I'm looking forward to it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Really been enjoying Raw, hopefully they continue advancing things and not just have this as a throwaway show.

[Xero]

I hope we don't have any wrong-sounding Muppets.

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[Blakeamus]

Might miss the opening segment. Got Daddy duty with the kids for Halloween from 6-8. I'm expecting hilarious segments and good wrestling. Can't wait to hear my daughter say "Are you serious?" when she sees the muppets on tonight. Might teach her to say "Are you serious BRO?" for laughs.

[Jordan]

Sweet, another 2 hours of HHH...

Listen Testicle, Hunter was hurt really badly last week at the hands of Big Diesel and his own sledgehammer, if you think he's gonna be on Raw, well you better think again.

[Xero]

Magical heeling powers ACTIVATE!

[Jordan]

Might miss the opening segment. Got Daddy duty with the kids for Halloween from 6-8. I'm expecting hilarious segments and good wrestling. Can't wait to hear my daughter say "Are you serious?" when she sees the muppets on tonight. Might teach her to say "Are you serious BRO?" for laughs.

You should teach you daughter to talk like a wrestling promo, her life could be great.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I hope we don't have any wrong-sounding Muppets.

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Maybe we'll even get some Kermit/R-Truth interaction
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Which would of course lead to Kermit "gettin' got!"

[Blakeamus]

She calls wrestlers, "fakers". She is too smart for her own good.

[Xero]

Are there any spider Muppets?

[Rock Bottom]

Should be a "loaded" show. I'd like to see Truth and Oscar.

[Blakeamus]

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[DAMN iNATOR]

Should be a "loaded" show. I'd like to see Truth and Oscar.

I know the term "Muppets" is loosely used, but come on. Anyone in their right mind knows that they're probably referring to characters exclusively from Jim Henson's shows and not Sesame Street, with the exception of Kermit, who has made quite a few cameos on SS.

[Jordan]

She calls wrestlers, "fakers". She is too smart for her own good.

You better tell her it's real or she's gonna grow up thinking your the faker.

[Shadrick]

Wocka Wocka, who wants to hear a funny ass joke?

[BizarroKing]

Regarding the Rock promo tonight, for some reason I predict he'll say no at first, then Miz and Truth come out of now where during the end and beat him down, which will end up convincing him to participate at SS!

[Blakeamus]

You better tell her it's real or she's gonna grow up thinking your the faker.

She started saying that after watching her first indy show I was booked on taggin with her paran. She thought "the fakers killed me" when she witness the post-match beatdown from our next opponents for a future show. I think her grandmother put that in her head, because she would always tell me that when I was younger that wrestling was fake, haha.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Animal should come out to Batistas music.

[Ermaximus]

Magical heeling powers ACTIVATE!

It's like anime, white tape heals all wounds.

[Xero]

I know the term "Muppets" is loosely used, but come on. Anyone in their right mind knows that they're probably referring to characters exclusively from Jim Henson's shows and not Sesame Street, with the exception of Kermit, who has made quite a few cameos on SS.
The Sesame Street puppets are indeed Muppets, and were under Henson banner until Disney bought the Henson company out.

So they are, technically, Muppets, by any definition. You can argue the post-buyout puppets not being Muppets, but anything pre-buyout is a Muppet. So none of the Sesame Street characters will appear tonight because they're not owned by Disney.

For the record, I only know this because PWInsider's audio revolved heavily around Muppets this past week.

[DAMN iNATOR]

The Sesame Street puppets are indeed Muppets, and were under Henson banner until Disney bought the Henson company out.

So they are, technically, Muppets, by any definition. You can argue the post-buyout puppets not being Muppets, but anything pre-buyout is a Muppet. So none of the Sesame Street characters will appear tonight because they're not owned by Disney.

For the record, I only know this because PWInsider's audio revolved heavily around Muppets this past week.

LOL, talk about your splitting hairs. But obviously you know more about the Muppets than I would ever care to...have a friend who's in his 30's and still likes them. Nothing wrong with that I guess, I just never got into it that much despite plenty of SS watching as a kid.

[Ermaximus]

9 muppets tonight apparently so I'm going with: Kermit, Miss Piggy, Waldorf, Statler, Animal, Swedish Chef, Fozzy, Beaker, and Sam that asshole eagle. I would mark like a little kid for a Rizzo the Rat cameo though.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Heard rumors flying around about possibility of a couple of whichever Muppets are there tonight showing up ringside for J.R. vs. Cole in the "Michael Cole Challenge Match"...just remembered how basically Statler and Waldorf were the 2 guys I did like because they always criticized everything, play-by-play style from their little balcony or whatever. Probably won't happen, but w/e.

[Xero]

Morrison should job to Miss Piggy, who is dressed as Melina.

[Innovator]

Morrison will lose to a gauntlet of Muppets, then get blown up by Dr. Honeydew.

[Xero]

So are we going to get ANY in-ring segments with Muppets? Kind of doubt that, unless there's a table involved. lol if they cut holes in the ring for the puppeteers.

[Ermaximus]

All that remains of Morrison is his fuzzy pants? Like when MacGruber blew up Truth?

[Rock Bottom]

I know the term "Muppets" is loosely used, but come on. Anyone in their right mind knows that they're probably referring to characters exclusively from Jim Henson's shows and not Sesame Street, with the exception of Kermit, who has made quite a few cameos on SS.

Truth and Oscar or no deal.

[Rock Bottom]

So are we going to get ANY in-ring segments with Muppets? Kind of doubt that, unless there's a table involved. lol if they cut holes in the ring for the puppeteers.

Could be done with strings, if they were dead set on it. Not sure how good it'd look.

[Nicky Fives]

Santino & Sweetums would make quite the segment together.....

[Xero]

Hornswoggle will obviously be heavily featured. Apparently over the last week or so he got three new Muppet-related tattoos. He has like five or six characters on him now. Huge Muppets mark.

Have a feeling I won't mind Swog's segments.

[Xero]

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[Xero]

Guessing Gonzo's there, since Vickie Tweeted this:

ExcuseMeWWE I'm officially in love with Fozzy Bear and Gonzo!!!!

[DAMN iNATOR]

Guessing Gonzo's there, since Vickie Tweeted this:

ExcuseMeWWE I'm officially in love with Fozzy Bear and Gonzo!!!!

UGH. There's a "freaky 3-way" image I didn't need... :$

[ClockShot]

As I said in last week's thread, Statler and Waldorf better be chillin in a skybox tonight and just taking shots and shitting on everyone.

[Rock Bottom]

Wonder if muppets made it into Rock's vid. Doubt it, but it'd be gold.

[Corndad]

Pumped for this. I'm looking forward to a Beaker/Sheamus meeting that has to happen if there is a God.

Also curious to see if they bring HHH out tonight even though they said he would be out for a while after last week.

[Droford]

They should say Fozzy is gonna be there and then have Jericho show up.

[Xero]

Moongoose McQueen makes his return to the wrestling - and rock - world.

[Triple Naitch]

Can anybody hook a brother up with a stream? I just moved and there's no way I am missing this shit.

[Rock Bottom]

It would be awesome if a muppet was cutting a promo and then a giant glob of spit just lands on his chin like sup dood

[Droford]

I imagine a "If you smell....what the...swedish chef is cooking" line from the Rock.

[Shadrick]

Backstage at RAW right now. Crowd is hot. Yoshi got a pop when he came out for the taping of Superstars. So did Morrison. Drew did too surprisingly. More later if my batter doesn't die...

[Droford]

Obviously Jack Swagger comes out with Sam the Eagle

[Shadrick]

And Battery too.

[Xero]

What about the fucking Muppets?

[Droford]

that wouldnt be pg

[Droford]

Odds of a Gonzo/HHH nose comparison line?

[Emperor Smeat]

So is it guaranteed Miss Piggy and Vickie Guerrero will be involved in at least one shouting or "excuse me" segment?

[Xero]

Muppets XXX

I bet there's a porn out there with muppets or puppets. It's not a fetish I've heard of, but I guarantee it's out there. Rule 34, man.

[Shadrick]

Morrison and Drew taping for Superstars. Pretty good match. Morrison jobs again to the Future Shock.

[ClockShot]

Either that or one of the Divas makes a pass at Kermit.

[Lock Jaw]

Backstage at RAW right now.

Why are you backstage?


ALSO.


Almost time!


So freaking hyped up! Haven't looked forward to RAW this much in a looong time. Not even with Punk Shenanigans of MitB/Summerslam.

[Corndad]

Hell no!!

[ClockShot]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!

[Triple Naitch]

Rock's beard is weird.

[Triple Naitch]

His facial hair has him in a rocking chair.

[Corndad]

Thank you Wocky!!!

[Corndad]

ITS CLOBBERIN TIME!

[KIRA]

Yea that vengence clip was cool when Brock did it back in 03

[Blakeamus]

Got the end of th Rock's segment, so hes teaming with Cena or not?

[ClockShot]

That's lame.

[Corndad]

You're a sly one Mr. Del Rio.

[Immortal Moose]

Got the end of th Rock's segment, so hes teaming with Cena or not?

yea, he is

[ClockShot]

I think we're due another Old School Raw.

[Rock Bottom]

Shame that match was so short, but it was done and booked very well.

[Blakeamus]

haha wow

[Corndad]

Kermit FTW!

[Shadrick]

Why are you backstage?


I'm cool with someone on the roster so whenever they're in Atlanta, I hang backstage when I can.

[Blakeamus]

hahahaha

[Corndad]

HHAHAHAA

[el bobbo]

This is messed up.

[Triple Naitch]

I want that as my minitron in WWE 12.

[Immortal Moose]

lmfao WAKA WAKA

[Blakeamus]

Santino + Muppets= GOLD

[KIRA]

how the hell is swagger keeping a straight face

[Skippord]

Santino here to ruin this for me

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Kermit "I don't want any trouble from you and your mother" to Swagger and Vickie

[Skippord]

it's funny because he mispronounces things

[KIRA]

can it frog! LOL

[Corndad]

WOOO WOO WOO!

[Skippord]

is this really happening?

[Corndad]

Cowboy or Pirate hahahaha This is everything I've wanted and more.

[KIRA]

Saints Row the third:we've stopped caring


and its AWESOME Gonna make a roving pirate gang

[Corndad]

Kaitlyn is hot even when shes Dog the Bounty Hunter lol

[KIRA]

Rosa dressed as a shemale tonight

[Corndad]

SO what was the point of Alicia Fox's clean victory last week?

[Corndad]

YES!

[ClockShot]

Budson and Beaker!

[Blakeamus]

awesome!

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Sheamus and Beaker

:rofl: they are actually related

[Corndad]

YES OMG YES!

[Corndad]

Family Reunion!!

[Shadrick]

Vince is fucking LOVING this Sheamus segment lol

[Immortal Moose]

hahahaha

[el bobbo]

Did Airboom get a new theme? It works pretty well.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This is already one of my favorite Raws of 2011.</font>

[Shadrick]

Haaaa Cody told me he was hoping to get booed when he came out, despite being from "Marietta, GA". As soon as they said it, crowd cheered a bit. He's gonna be livid when he comes back.

[ClockShot]

Wade & Cawdy.

Bit of an odd pairing.

[Shadrick]

Dolph is getting geared up, looks like he's out next after this match. Or maybe after the segment after this match.

[ClockShot]

So Shad, Cole getting fired tonight?

[ClockShot]

Bourne just got snapped in half.

[Corndad]

Do it for Beaker!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Why is Shad backstage?</font>

[ClockShot]

YES!

[Shadrick]

Vince fucking loves Sheamus lol.

[el bobbo]

Ha. It's the two old fucks.

[ClockShot]

Why is Shad backstage?

Shad got a friend on the crew whenever they're in Atlanta is what he said.

[el bobbo]

WWERawGM John Laurinaitis
by WWE

Just wanted the @WWEUniverse to know that I have signed @RealKevinNash. #Raw

[ClockShot]

Hey, Brodus is back next week.

[ClockShot]

It ain't the same without Ricky. :(

[Shadrick]

Broadus Clay got almost zero reaction from his vignette. Sucks, cuz he's gonna beast.

[ClockShot]

441 lbs.

Crazy as it sounds, Show looks good.

[Shadrick]

Shad got a friend on the crew whenever they're in Atlanta is what he said.

Not really the crew, the roster actually

[Dukelorange]

Ha. It's the two old fucks.

I was watching the Sing Off and missed it... I'm a singer so it is what it is...

What happened in this segment?

[Corndad]

HAHAHA that kid dressed as Sheamus in like the 3rd row

[Shadrick]

Vince is now saying they need to wrap this Del Rio/Show match up right now.

[Shadrick]

And there it is.

[Corndad]

This has been a long match.

[Rock Bottom]

...

[Rock Bottom]

Why the hell would you have the Big Show beat ADR clean on raw before a big title match at a PPV?

[Rock Bottom]

Who gives a fuck if CM Punk beats ADR now

[ClockShot]

About time he goes back to the Vice.

[Rock Bottom]

so stupid

[Corndad]

Swagger is anti Muppet

[Rock Bottom]

Animal as timekeeper is pretty good.

[ClockShot]

Animal is the timekeeper.

Better grab some ear plugs.

[Blakeamus]

haha animal

[Blakeamus]

we want Ryder chants

[Shadrick]

I'm guessing its Ziggles/Ryder tonight, they're both in Gorilla right now.

[Corndad]

BEAKER MADE IT!

[Emperor Smeat]

LOL Beaker again with the "special" juice (aka roids)

[Triple Naitch]

Kinda wanna see Beeker and Hornswoggle have a convo.

[ClockShot]

THE MIST!

Oh wait, Taijiri ain't around anymore.

[Immortal Moose]

I'm guessing its Ziggles/Ryder tonight, they're both in Gorilla right now.

yep

[Blakeamus]

Pretty good matches tonight.

[ClockShot]

Probably this, JR/Cole, then the Main Event to wrap this up.

[Shadrick]

I haven't seen Orton yet. Surprising.

[Corndad]

It's looking like no Orton or HHH tonight.

[Immortal Moose]

No HHH isn't that surprising, no Nash is, to me at least

[Blakeamus]

uh oh

[Blakeamus]

YeS! Ryder with the win!

[el bobbo]

Woo Woo Woo

[ClockShot]

Oooooookay.

[Shadrick]

Ryder with the second biggest pop of the night, right next to Morrisons entrance for Superstars.

[Blakeamus]

and the fact hes done it before Cole...

[ClockShot]

Triple H/Nash recap. Better be quick.

[Blakeamus]

They gonna run that before and after JR and Coles match, then before and after the Main Event...:shifty:

[Corndad]

Somethings gonna be short. Either the Main Event or the Cole/JR stuff

[Immortal Moose]

...

[Blakeamus]

here we go...now that's going to fucking trend on Twitter

[Blakeamus]

haha

[Immortal Moose]

lol

[Triple Naitch]

Meanwhile, Melina is currently getting fucked by Sweetums.

[Blakeamus]

Oh lord...now my daughter wants to put a paperbag on my head. Thanks WWE.

[ClockShot]

:rofl:

[Providence Peep]

I was looking forward to seeing Cole/JR tonight.

[taker707]

I was looking forward to seeing Cole/JR tonight.

me to . we probably will get it at SS maybe ?

[Blakeamus]

Might play it up til SS...I could see a JR Team v.s. Cole Team

[Dukelorange]

I might be late, but was that Chili from TLC in the front row dressed as a cowgirl?

[ClockShot]

Haven't heard from Shad. I wonder if Vince caught him leaking info and kicked his ass out?

[Triple Naitch]

Did Cena's shorts shrink in the wash?

[Blakeamus]

Guess he is trying to wear tights again.

[ClockShot]

Truth has been MIA tonight. Post match run-in?

[Blakeamus]

that was SICK!

[Immortal Moose]

well, near end-match run-in

[Skippord]

PROFESSOR HYDE WHITE!!?

[ClockShot]

Meh.

[Blakeamus]

weak ending but everything else was great

[Immortal Moose]

Enjoyed that raw

[Shadrick]

Are we off-air? CM Punk and Cena vs Miz and Truth, it all took about 5 seconds. Punk came out in a dracula mask. They both nailed their finishers to end it. Now Punk is taunting by doing the Hogan ear thing to the crowd. GTS. Now Justin Roberts said "Here is your winner. Dracula!". Punk is hyping up the crowd before leaving. Just walked past me and gave me a fist bump. Great Raw.

[Shadrick]

Punk ran back out to bow to the crowd and slap a few high-fives. Very cool. Cena just ran by me and said to everyone "I had six moves today, did you see?!?!"

[PapaGeorgio]

Not enough muppets.

[XCaliber]

Dunno about anyone else but this immediately popped into my head when The Bellas were eliminated from the Diva Battle Royale:

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[Lock Jaw]

This wrestling show needed less wrestling and more Muppets.









.... For real. That Del Rio/Big Show match was excruciatingly long.

[Corndad]

Punk ran back out to bow to the crowd and slap a few high-fives. Very cool. Cena just ran by me and said to everyone "I had six moves today, did you see?!?!"

:lol:

[XCaliber]

Also liked the Wimpbusters reference from Lawler heh WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

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[James Steele]

:lol:

Jerry Lawler could do whatever the fuck he wanted and could get it over in Memphis.

[Captain of Fun]

Statler and Waldorf should be the full time commentators for raw.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Boogie Woogie Man!

[FourFifty]

am I the only one who was annoyed with the camera work tonight? They missed the worlds strongest slam, the big show knocking del rio down when they were on their knees, and a few other spots. The show was awesome, but the camera work was really bad.

[Lock Jaw]

Not the camera work. The direction/cutting. The camera work is always top notch.

[teamXtremist]

from what i saw raw was solid especially loved the sheamus/beaker segment

[MIZantine Empire]

how has no one pointed out santino calling good ol johnny "larengitis", or however u spell it..lol that had me cracking up..and shad, ryder had one of the biggest pops, u didnt mention punks, idk how it was live, but on tv it sounded like he got one hell of a pop..not quite as big as his smackdown pop last week, but still good.

[MIZantine Empire]

also want to point out that i loved the "lets go ryder...WOO WOO WOO" chant...

[Autobahn]

Great raw. Amazing how well they made that worked.

Sheamus has been so good as a face lately. Seems very natural, and not forced.

[Shadrick]

how has no one pointed out santino calling good ol johnny "larengitis", or however u spell it..lol that had me cracking up..and shad, ryder had one of the biggest pops, u didnt mention punks, idk how it was live, but on tv it sounded like he got one hell of a pop..not quite as big as his smackdown pop last week, but still good.

Punks pop(s) were huge, don't get me wrong. Atlanta is definitely an anti-Cena pro Punk city, but Ryder's was bigger in the arena. Honestly, this crowd loved Drew, Jomo, Ryder, Rock, and Punk.

[Next Big Thing]

I can't believe that Raw was that enjoyable. Good matches and the muppets segments fit seamlessly with the show and it didn't come off corny at all. Hate the Cole and J.R. feud though. Leave Jim Ross on t.v. or keep him off. Stop with the announcer centered storylines.

[Cuse8]

Statler and Waldorf should be the full time commentators for raw.

:y:!!!!!

[wwe2222]

Besides a small lag in the middle, I thought Ryder-Ziggler was a very good match. The two have good chemistry together (though Ziggler seemingly does with everyone).

[Lock Jaw]

Cena can clearly handle Miz and Truth just fine on his own.

Why does he even need a partner?

Already got his "revenge" tonight anyways.

Might as well cancel the Survivor Series match.

[MIZantine Empire]

Punks pop(s) were huge, don't get me wrong. Atlanta is definitely an anti-Cena pro Punk city, but Ryder's was bigger in the arena. Honestly, this crowd loved Drew, Jomo, Ryder, Rock, and Punk.
im such a fan of the cities that go against the grain. i loved the MITB ppv this year..as much as i hate boston anything, they really know how to make a wwe show entertaining

[BizarroKing]

So apparently the JR/Cole match is next week due to time constraints...

They better not hold it off until Survivor Series.

[XL]

im such a fan of the cities that go against the grain. i loved the MITB ppv this year..as much as i hate boston anything, they really know how to make a wwe show entertaining
MitB was in Chicago. Raw was in Atlanta. Unless you're talking about the pre-MitB Raw? That was in Boston.

[MIZantine Empire]

MitB was in Chicago. Raw was in Atlanta. Unless you're talking about the pre-MitB Raw? That was in Boston.
yes, i did mean chicago..im an idiot..chicago/boston/msg crowds are my fav to watch wwe. after MITB chicago became my fav..they just had soooo much energy and seemingly turned sheamus face..his pop he got when he entered the MITB match was insane.

[CSL]

just checked out the Muppets parts, they were great fun

[Triple Naitch]

Loved Raw, but wish we got to see Swedish Chef. :(

[Rock Bottom]

Still trying to figure out why the hell they had a short, well-booked match with Mark Henry and CM Punk and a long, horribly booked match with Big Show and ADR.

Just seemed really stupid to have the big show beat the WWE champion clean on Raw. Took a lot of steam out of this ADR/Punk confrontation for me.

[Rock Bottom]

Non-title matches are starting to get silly.

[Blakeamus]

Maybe by Show taking the pin with the WMD in WWE's booking was so CM Punk can come and do that promo of slipping the anaconda vice to make Del Rio give him the title shot. They could of done another DQ, with CM Punk attacking Del Rio from there. But I don't see it causing Del Rio losing any steam at all. They got three weeks of build-up. If Del Rio continues to get booked poorly and somehow drop it to Punk at SS, then I can totally understand your opinion.

[James Steele]

I hope they don't blow their wad with CM Punk this soon. They could make WrestleMania white-hot if they don't waste the WWE Championship in the Rock/Cena match and have Punk chase for the belt until WM. I know it's cliche, but having Johnny Ace just go all-out evil boss eventually and "stack the deck" against Punk for months and screw him over and over only for him to finally overcome it at the Elimination Chamber to get a clean one-on-one WWE Championship match at WrestleMania. 2 huge main events that the people would be foaming at the mouth to see. Add another epic Undertaker match, the aura of being in a massive outdoor stadium, and a solid undercard, and you would have an amazing WrestleMania that might be untouchable for years.

[Rock Bottom]

WWE champions shouldn't be jobbing clean on weekly TV all the time. They're doing it to virtually all of them right now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Come on, everything here made perfect sense on paper. Henry is a beast right now, and shouldn't be losing much. The DQ made perfect sense, because it shows that Del Rio is being a worm and trying to duck Punk, and it makes people want to see Punk get his hands on Del Rio more. It's called build. It payed off later in the evening when Punk helped SmackDown!'s World Title's #1 Contender get a victory over the WWE Champion, which makes him look like a star worth watching. Punk then got to look like a bad-ass and got his match confirmed.

People will bitch about anything.

[Lock Jaw]

Punk did not help Big Show win at all.

[Blakeamus]

:rofl:

[Xero]

Was an okay show. Some good matches, liked most of the Muppet stuff.

Only really big gripe I have is that Cena can clearly take on Truth and Miz single-handedly and at a disadvantage with a sneak attack. Why does he need The Rock? It's the equivalent of a guy with a nerf gun going against two guys in state-of-the-art tanks. They're not even pretending that Cena doesn't have a chance, let alone Cena AND Rock.

[Shadrick]

After being in the arena, then watching a torrent of Raw, as if it wasn't obvious already, they are CLEARLY manipulating the audio to make some guys reactions sound smaller and amping other ones. If you listen to Punks pop on TV and Zack Ryders pop, they seem completely different. In the actual arena, Ryders pop was hugeeeee and was a close second behind Punks.

[Londoner]

Can't believe King expects us to accept that the ring collapse hasn't happened before when they've mentioned the lesnar/big show thing god knows how many times now.

[Londoner]

Oh Punk opening the show v Mark Henry....PUNKS GON' GET BURIED!!!!!!!!!!!

[Londoner]

The Muppets are just fucking awesome.

[Volare]

Anyone else mark a little bit when Ryder hit the Rough Ryder?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Besides a small lag in the middle, I thought Ryder-Ziggler was a very good match. The two have good chemistry together (though Ziggler seemingly does with everyone).

All the more reason for a United States Championship rematch at Survivor Series, preferably with some kind of twist where Ryder wins via roll-up or leg on the rope w/o the ref noticing. I still say he'd be an excellent choice (probably the best right now, IMHO) to take the gold off Ziggy. Ziggy's held it for something like 4 months, and has had a solid run (2010 I think) on SD! with the IC belt, as well as a 5-day stint between RR '10 and the end of SD! the following week, as WHC, so it's not like he really needs to hold onto it any longer. Have him pass the US title on and have him and Swagger eventually defeat Air Boom for the WWE Tag titles.

[XL]

Was he recognised as WHC that long? I was under the impression he was awarded the belt on SmackDown and lost it later that episode.

[Xero]

Yeah, he dropped it the same day.

Dolph as WHC was a fucking joke.