Olympic Thread

[Moonax]

So who's looking forward to it?

Thoughts, opinions and discussions.

I'm looking forward to it because I enjoy seeing different sports. I hate the jingoism of the media. You'd think listening to the British and American media (and I am sure that is the same in Australia) that these were the only countries competing.

The Olympics are totally corrupt. Rife with drug taking cheats and prima-donna's but there are also some good things about it. I like the fact that sports like Archery get a bit of attention.

So anyway, what do people think about the Olympics, what events are people looking forward to?

[BCWWF]

I am really looking forward to the Olympics, because frankly a lot of the events just aren't the same when they are outside the Olympics, like track and swimming for example. I also love the concept of international competition, it would be better IMO if the United States wasn't such a force, but in sports like basketball I think that in 2008 and 2012 international competition will become a lot better. I know the US has a chance of not winning this year, but even if they don't it doesn't really mean anything. Anyway, I am looking forward to it because I like the concept of all the different events and different nations etc. I bought Athens 2004 for PS2, its key.

[Moonax]

Well there is more to the Olympics than sports the US is good in.

The US media focuses in on sports where there are US hopes which gives you a skewed impression.

For example you won't get coverage of the women's marathon if there is no hope for a US medal. But you will get coverage of beach vollyball if there is. It's the same in the UK, some guy who is a fencer who never gets any coverage at all for 4 years because he looks like he's doing well there will suddenly be huge media interest.

Really you ought to watch different media. see if you can get Canadian coverage or something for a different perspective.

[BCWWF]

Thats true but its also true that a lot of the events there aren't very exciting, so some of those Scandanavian guys will clean out the 50k race walk, but I don't really want to see that. But yes, there will be things that would be real interesting/cool to see that will probably not be shown, but NBC has an ungodly amound of coverage this year, so you never know.

What I meant was that it would be really cool if a lot of countries were right around like 70 medals instead of three countries (US, Russia, Chinia) just out of reach. Regardless though, I am reading into some sports I never cared about before a lot lately, like swimming for example, I'm pretty excited for those events. Overall I'm pretty excited.

[Ogen]

Never really been interested in Olympic events. Only events I've ever bothered to activly watch were Sonia O Sullivans races in her prime. I'll probably have it on in the background and check out a few things but all in all I'm pretty indifferent to it all.

[Moonax]

But the reason why you don't find them exciting is because the media doesn't hype them up as exciting. If they were involving US sportsmen I'm sure you'd find them exciting.

You wouldn't watch the Tour if Armstrong was constantly being sucked off by ESPN.

The coverage of the swimming is a joke. Its as if they've never heard of ian Thorpe.

[YOUR Hero]

Canada gives pretty good coverage of the entire games. Sure they are Canuck heavy in content, but they do a fair job of covering as much as possible.

Soccer has already started BTW.

I'm into anything really. Track&Field, swimming especially....Then I forget about them until next Olympics.

[AareDub]

The only thing I'm interested in during these Olympics is Cael Sanderson. I can't wait to see how well he competes against the other countries this year. He is one of the best amateur wrestlers ever, I've been waiting to see him in the Olympics since he finished his 4 years undefeated in the NCAA a few years ago.

Sadly, wrestling barely gets any coverage :(

[Loose Cannon]

jeez, didn't even know they started. I'm off.

[Moonax]

My wife's cousin won a bronze medal at Barcelona :)

anyone else know any medal winners?

[Ogen]

Actually the Olympics last time that guy can't remeber where he was from Ghana or Gambia or something who could barely swim the length of the pool. He'd only learned how to swim in the months prior that was quality. Hes not taking part this year as hes lost his passport or something mad like that.

[BCWWF]

Damnit I just changed pages and when I clicked back my page of writing was gone :mad:


But the reason why you don't find them exciting is because the media doesn't hype them up as exciting. If they were involving US sportsmen I'm sure you'd find them exciting.
I'm not excited about every event that an American is in, and I am very excited about a lot of events that Americans didn't even qualify for. There are Americans competing in table tennis, but I'm not going to pay much attention to that, the men are not competing in soccer, but I am going to pay attention to that. I'm not just some dummy who is being pushed around by NBC, actually.

You wouldn't watch the Tour if Armstrong was constantly being sucked off by ESPN.
You obviously must not watch much ESPN, because the Tour de France got maybe 30 seconds a day on SportsCenter. The coverage was on OLN, a channel that I ordered specially, and a channel that shows the same coverage the rest of North America and UK see. I became a fan of cycling when I started reading about it and became intrigued by the strategy and precision of it, not because Stewart Scott gave a ten word update every night on SportsCenter. Stima is an example of a guy who follows Armstrong on ESPN, I am an example of a guy who follows the Tour de France through OLN, internet news sources, and various magazines. Theres a difference.


The coverage of the swimming is a joke. Its as if they've never heard of ian Thorpe.

I know Thorpe, I know that he could easilly beat Phelps in at least one event. I know that Phelps isn't predicted to win seven and that the relays are hardly a lock. If I just watched ESPN and read Sports Illustrated, then I would think that he was a lock to win eight and that there are no other good swimmers out there, much less American. But I am well read, so I don't think that. Don't get me confused with all the guys crying when he only wins four golds.


It's easy to stereotype Americans as being ignorant on international sport, and for the most part it really is true. That doesn't mean that all Americans are completely ignorant. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I'm not the marionette with ESPN pulling my strings that you think I am. That said its not like the United States is the only country with biased coverage. You, for example, hate Lance Armstrong based on, well, speculation. Either that or else its because he is successful, confident, and American.


Its not a sin for a country to cover its own athletes. Half the guys posting here are saying that they only care about their countrys athletes. I'm sure Argentina will have more coverage of soccer than anything else, and they are predicted to win! You need to lighten up and stop hating everything American based on double-standards and stereotypes.

I don't mind if you're making fun of the stereotypical person, but don't make judgements on me based on them.

[AareDub]

anyone else know any medal winners?

I've met Kurt Angle once, and Brandon Slay several times. That's not exactly "knowing" them, but I figured I'd mention it anyway :p

[Downunder]

I honestly don't give a shit - but I am watching Australia play Tunisia (sp? I'm pissed) in Football, only because I love Football.

I'll probably only watch Football, Weightlifting and Boxing - I'm not interested in anything else.

And the media over here get lost up their own arses with wank about how many medals Australia will win. Actually if you watch the Australian coverage only, you'd think the only sport at the Olympics was swimming.

[ct2k]

Always been a huge athletics nut so i'll enjoy the second week, the basketball and football will probably be quite entertaining

[BCWWF]

Does anybody know where there is a complete schedule? I think I'll have to be staying up late some nights to see a lot of the good stuff :meh:

[Team Sheep]

I just watched Iraq vs portugal in football. 4-2 to Iraq, exciting game :y:

[BCWWF]

Iraq won? I guess Portugal uses amateurs but even so I thought Iraqi atheletes were let in via pity?

[Team Sheep]

Iraq were pretty good. Portugal didn't field a weak team either, they had Ronaldo and Boa Morte on, but they were just outplayed really.

[BCWWF]

I thought UEFA and South American (conembol?) countries didn't use their international players in the Olympics? Which was why African teams fared real well in the past. Did something change or am I just wrong?

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">theres been a big fuss about Premier league teams having to release players for the olympics. I dont know what the rules used to be. But it was a strong Portugal team.</font>

[Team Sheep]

Ye Sir Alex has been really pissed about Heinze and Ronaldo. I guess tonight's result will please him though, so that Ronaldo can come back to Man U quicker.

[BCWWF]

<TABLE width="97%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>Group A</TD><TD> Group B</TD><TD> Group C</TD><TD> Group D</TD></TR><TR><TD> Greece</TD><TD> Paraguay</TD><TD> Argentina</TD><TD> Costa Rica</TD></TR><TR><TD> Rep. of Korea </TD><TD> Japan </TD><TD> Serbia and Montenegro</TD><TD> Morocco</TD></TR><TR><TD> Mali</TD><TD> Ghana</TD><TD> Tunisia</TD><TD> Iraq</TD></TR><TR><TD> Mexico</TD><TD> Italy</TD><TD> Australia</TD><TD> Portugal</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Theres the lineup

[BCWWF]

The Primiership is in its off season right now isn't it?

[Team Sheep]

Oh yeah and Italy vs Ghana was on earlier. Finished 2-2 after Ghana were 2-0 up.

[Team Sheep]

The Primiership is in its off season right now isn't it?

Yeah but it starts again this Saturday and if Portugal reach the final then Ronaldo misses the first 4 Premiership games I think.

[BCWWF]

If I was Ronaldo the Olympics would be more important then missing a few club games, wouldn't it?


Cameroon won in 2000 too, so I think CAF teams send their full international squad

[Team Sheep]

Yeah the olympics would be my first priority asswell.

[BCWWF]

I have a question, maybe somebody knows...

Why, in track, do they have the 10,000 on the track? It seems like it would be more logical as a cross country race, and if im not mistaken the only race not on the track is the marathon. You could make a case for the 5k to be a cross country race aswell.

[Moonax]

Damnit I just changed pages and when I clicked back my page of writing was gone :mad:


I'm not excited about every event that an American is in, and I am very excited about a lot of events that Americans didn't even qualify for. There are Americans competing in table tennis, but I'm not going to pay much attention to that, the men are not competing in soccer, but I am going to pay attention to that. I'm not just some dummy who is being pushed around by NBC, actually.


You obviously must not watch much ESPN, because the Tour de France got maybe 30 seconds a day on SportsCenter. The coverage was on OLN, a channel that I ordered specially, and a channel that shows the same coverage the rest of North America and UK see. I became a fan of cycling when I started reading about it and became intrigued by the strategy and precision of it, not because Stewart Scott gave a ten word update every night on SportsCenter. Stima is an example of a guy who follows Armstrong on ESPN, I am an example of a guy who follows the Tour de France through OLN, internet news sources, and various magazines. Theres a difference.



I know Thorpe, I know that he could easilly beat Phelps in at least one event. I know that Phelps isn't predicted to win seven and that the relays are hardly a lock. If I just watched ESPN and read Sports Illustrated, then I would think that he was a lock to win eight and that there are no other good swimmers out there, much less American. But I am well read, so I don't think that. Don't get me confused with all the guys crying when he only wins four golds.


It's easy to stereotype Americans as being ignorant on international sport, and for the most part it really is true. That doesn't mean that all Americans are completely ignorant. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I'm not the marionette with ESPN pulling my strings that you think I am. That said its not like the United States is the only country with biased coverage. You, for example, hate Lance Armstrong based on, well, speculation. Either that or else its because he is successful, confident, and American.


Its not a sin for a country to cover its own athletes. Half the guys posting here are saying that they only care about their countrys athletes. I'm sure Argentina will have more coverage of soccer than anything else, and they are predicted to win! You need to lighten up and stop hating everything American based on double-standards and stereotypes.

I don't mind if you're making fun of the stereotypical person, but don't make judgements on me based on them.

LOL. You are sometimes just plain ignorant.

I notice that you'va avoided responding to my points to you in the tour thread regarding Armstrong and his cheating. I criticise every drug cheat - whether it is Chinese runners, to Lance Armstrong to Paula Ratcliffe.

I actually watched quite a bit of ESPN when i was in North America and I noted the lack of criticism of Armstrongs conduct. I notice that you have been silent on the maater as well.

The very fact that you were not aware of the Portuguese team nor the discussion concerning the release of players for the tournament simply shows your ignorance.

You are as bad as marion jones lawyer, you have to realise that criticising someone who happens to be american does not make you anti-american. If you noticed I also criticised the media in the UK. I am critical of the media being nationalistic, it's the same everywhere and it annoys me everywhere, whether I am in the UK, US, Canada, Romania or Poland.

[BCWWF]

Lance Armstrong isn't a drug cheat, there is no solid evidence AT ALL. You just overlooked everything I said in the other thread. Lance Armstrong isn't the best time trialist in the world, he is one of the best in the Tour de France, theres a difference. It is not unheard of to be good in both of those areas in the Tour, and my evidence was Jan Ullrich. You act like you know for a fact that Lance Armstrong is doping when really you have no clue other than what the media is telling you, and the media that is telling you information is the same one printing books with non-factual information against him. You can think what you want, but Lance Armstrong has never been caught on even the smallest doping charge, so until he is your opinion really doesn't mean anything.

I actually watched quite a bit of ESPN when i was in North America and I noted the lack of criticism of Armstrongs conduct. I notice that you have been silent on the maater as well.
Cycling isn't big in the United States, for four weeks in the summer ESPN will give an update on the race and thats about it. I have been silent on the matter? Did you even read my post? ESPN isn't where I got my coverage of the Tour and its not where I get my information on Lance. And what do you want them to be criticizing anyway? "Even though nobody is paying attention, Lance chased down a guy who tried to nark on him with no proof of anything."

The very fact that you were not aware of the Portuguese team nor the discussion concerning the release of players for the tournament simply shows your ignorance.
I am at a loss for words as to how rediculous this is. You are calling me ignorant for not knowing that the Portuguese national team is using some of its top players. If I knew everything about every sport in the whole damned world do you think I would be sitting here talking to you? I guess your logic makes this whole place a pretty ignorant group.

[Moonax]

Wrong. Armstrong failed a drugs test in 2000.

You have not dealt with Armstrongs relationship with Ferrari.

You claimed that it was anti-Americanism and ignored the criticism of Greg lemond.

You have not dealt with Armstrongs behaviour on stage 18.

The Portuguese team have been affected by the same club vs country debate that all the countries in the Olympics have been faced with. This is part of a huge debate across the world.

[BCWWF]

Apparantly you are the only one who knows if this crucial drug test then.

His relationship with Ferrari means nothing unless there is factual evidence that he is supplying EPO.

Yes I did. A little douche tried to rat him out without facts or evidence, so Armstrong made him pay for it on a national stage. If I was the number one cyclist in the world and some random guy tried to jump on the bandwagon and accuse me of doping with no proof, then I would make him pay also, teach him a lesson. "Don't nark on me if you have no proof." Thats not completely outrageous, unless of course you are nitpicking little double-standards out like you are.

I'm sure that debate is really big in the country where the foreign players are defecting from, but its really not an issue of great interest on my part and I haven't noticed a big deal on the websites I visit daily. I never claimed to be the god of your continents sports, I remind you.

[Moonax]

Once again you are being ignorant of the facts.

Armstrong failed a test for steriods. he claimed that they were ina cream he had used for Saddle sores and went unbanned. Thus, your claim that he has never failed any tests is simply a lie.

Ferreri has been banned because of his links to drugs in the sport. There is considerable evidence from a number of people who have implicated Ferreri including Simeoni.

Funny how 'lance is a hero and anyone who says otherwise is a lying anti-American'. Actually, Armstrong encouraged Simeone to give evidence and for people to read it. he then read what Simeoni said and started crying. Simeoni is not a 'random cyclist' but a former Giro winner and someone who has more class in this little finger than in the whole US Postal team.

Tell me why is blowing the whistle about drugs cheats 'bandwagon jumping'? What the coach who turned in the syringe that enabled them to test for TGH a bandwagon jumper?

It's funny but Simeoni should be applauded for doing something that no one else has done - especially not Armstrong - and that's take a stand about drugs in the Peleton. I am well aware that everyone in the peleton uses something.

You haven't addressed the issue of Lemond.

You claimed Armstrong was a 'great family man' but ignored the fact that he left his wife (hardly the sign of a good family man).

If you took your head out of your arse you might see Armstrong for what he is: a classless, cheating bully who milks the fact he had cancer to get sympathy from the gullable public.

[ct2k]

There's more going down as far as Greek athletes are concerned, Kenteris and another one both failed to turn up to a drugs test and there's talk of bannings

[Y2C]

In each given country, it's obvious that the sports that are going to be covered the most are going to be the ones that the country has the best chance of winning a gold medal in. Media outlets are interested in ratings & money, and obviously if there are Americans or Australians, or whatever, involved then there are going to be more people who are going to watch it.

The main thing that I'm going to be looking forward to is Roy & HG. During the Sydney Olympics they mostly focussed on the sports that not many people watch (like the Greco Roman Wrestling, for example) and make up piss funny names for all of the moves and interview random athletes asking stupid questions. :)

[The Cerebral Assassin]

I am looking forward to the following:

Wrestling
Weightlifting
Judo
Women's Swimming ;)
Women's Volleyball ;)

[BCWWF]

You guys are all ignorant and stupid, if you lived in England you would be enlightened and watch all the good sports like table tennis, badminton, and race walking. Shame on you.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

God dammit!

I forgot to mention taekwondo. I'll also watch that.

Maybe some football, soccer, as well.

[Quick1]

Ummm. Why did they open it with the theme from Jurassic Park?

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Ummm. Why did they open it with the theme from Jurassic Park?

A better question would be: why is Darth Vader doing the voice overs?

[Quick1]

WTF? This is so corny.

[Loose Cannon]

yeah seriously. Felt like I was watching something while on coak. Did I see Flying blue angles? WTF?

[Quick1]

What!? Huge pop for Afganistan?

[Loose Cannon]

lol, didn't see it.

[Loose Cannon]

NY 2012. WHAT

[Quick1]

WOOOOO go Germany!

[Quick1]

NY 2012. WHAT
Olympics here? In our home state?

[Loose Cannon]

yeah, they said it's NY, Paris and two other cities in the running.

[Quick1]

OOO the red cross has its own team.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

I thought it would be Beijing, China.

-edit- Excuse me, I was thinking of 2008.

[Loose Cannon]

lol. Eritria? That's a new one to me.

[Loose Cannon]

HUGE POP FOR US.

[Loose Cannon]

IVERSON is the shit.

[Quick1]

Wow how many athlets do we have?

[The Cerebral Assassin]

About 537, or somewhere in that area.

[Quick1]

If Iraq gets a pop I'll bite my hand.

Edit: I bit my hand.

[Loose Cannon]

lol, that dude is backing out cause he doesn't want to wrestle an Israeli.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Better start gnawing on that hand.

:)

[Quick1]

To bad they got tortured if they lost.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Oooh Caaaannaaaddaaa!

[Quick1]

Booo Canada

[Loose Cannon]

lol, wtf is a former US coach doing with the Chinese

[Quick1]

and Yao ming?

[Loose Cannon]

yeah, Yao Ming is American now. He can't just go back.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

I'm looking forward to Russia's arrival.

[Quick1]

yeah, Yao Ming is American now. He can't just go back.
Madonna did.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Here comes the UK.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

JBL's least favorite nation is up next.

[Quick1]

^Which was?

[Loose Cannon]

Probably MEXICO.

[Quick1]

Whats with all these boring countries?

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Here comes Russia!

[Quick1]

They are trying to skip Russia.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Motherfuck!

The god damned assholes went to a fucking commercial break!!!!!!

[The Cerebral Assassin]

I hope our wrestling team jobs to the Russians!

[The Cerebral Assassin]

All is right with the world.

:)

[Quick1]

I hope our wrestling team jobs to the Russians!
No HHH signed with the US Olympic team

[Took]

Canada proved once again that they have the hottest women around. Denmark gave them a good run though.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

No HHH signed with the US Olympic team

Yeah, but I heard Hulk Hogan signed a lucrative contract to wrestle for Russia.

[Quick1]

:lol: Mankind(ish) music.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Here comes Greece!

[The Cerebral Assassin]

They have the hottest women!

[Took]

They have the hottest women!

Fuck no! Canada owns this category. We should get a gold medal solely on that basis.

[Quick1]

USA > Canada....................Finally the parade is over.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Oh god!

Here comes that psycho!

[Took]

USA > Canada....................Finally the parade is over.

In terms of numbers of fat ugly chicks yes.

[Quick1]

He pulled an Ultimo

[The Cerebral Assassin]

He meant to do it.

It's symbolic of World War one.

He also stumbled and stopped for World War two.

[Quick1]

I knew that.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Say, how much coverage will the wrestling receive?

[Quick1]

On TPWW? More then this.

[Smitty]

Why does the torch resemble a big flaming penis this year?

[BCWWF]

Whats wrong with Iraq and Afghanistan getting a pop? I say congratulations and good luck. Why is it bad for a recently emancipated country to get a pop from the crowd. I bet thats the happiest moment in their lives. I don't get people.

[BCWWF]

BTW, how lame is this announcer bitch in the opening ceremonies, describing all this shitty symbolism in her monotone voice and fake enthusiasm.

"Oh, I love this one. That pile of shit represents the oppression of Greece during the war of 1812 and shows that all men are created equal aswell. Blah."

[BCWWF]

I guess this makes me ignorant in Moonax's eyes, but I have a random question.

I thought I saw on a map that the track events would be held in the building where the opening ceremonies are, but on the map I saw it aswell as today, the shape of the track appears to be an oval? Is this not the track venue or is the oval wide enough that a normal track is cut out inside it?

[yianni]

I thought the opening ceremony was gold. Really enjoyed it. Pity the fucking Australian media sit there yapping on about Sydney, yada yada yada, comparing Greece's one to the one in 2000. Fucking get over it, who cares. It was so good hearing all the media this morning say how Athens proved them wrong by getting the games ready in time. It's the way we are, we always leave things to the last minute but we always get them done. :)

In terms of actual events at the Games, I think I'm just going to watch the football.

[Moonax]

You guys are all ignorant and stupid, if you lived in England you would be enlightened and watch all the good sports like table tennis, badminton, and race walking. Shame on you.

No, just you.

Travel. Go and see the world. Meet people, learn a foriegn language. Read something other than ESPN for your sports news.

I guess the symbolism was just a bit too hard for you to understand. I enjoyed it.

beach-volleyball first up. China vs Australia.

[BCWWF]

Maybe you should go back to the casual forum and find the "where have you been in the world" topic

[BCWWF]

Is anybody else watching Argentina vs. Tunisia? Theres like nobody there. I'm going for Tunisia though, I like their counter attack

[Moonax]

Maybe you should go back to the casual forum and find the "where have you been in the world" topic

Link please :)

Watched the road race today. Good finish.

[Quick1]

American boating team sucks :(

[Rob]

So who's looking forward to it?

Thoughts, opinions and discussions.

I'm looking forward to it because I enjoy seeing different sports. I hate the jingoism of the media. You'd think listening to the British and American media (and I am sure that is the same in Australia) that these were the only countries competing.

The Olympics are totally corrupt. Rife with drug taking cheats and prima-donna's but there are also some good things about it. I like the fact that sports like Archery get a bit of attention.

So anyway, what do people think about the Olympics, what events are people looking forward to?

You seem like a barrel of joy then :p

Now you know as well as I do that every country is going to put over their own stars and concentrate on their own athletes. Nobody in Britain could give a toss about how many medals China or Russia or Gambia win. British people want to watch British athletes. Same goes for every other country. You think people in Romania want to see the British?

As for the Swimming coverage, don't know about ESPN or any other station but all I saw on the Beeb this morning was Ian Thorpe.

[Rob]

Also have to stress that no matter how ignorant it sounds and how much sh</>it people on these boards will try and put on me, I'm 100% Anti-American in these games. I'm supporting Britain first and anybody not American second.

[Moonax]

Yeah the Romanian's will pretty much watch anything.

I saw Australia-bulgaria in the women's beach volley-ball. Pretty and some other weird stuff.

Although I think after about the 8th time I got the message that the british judo guy got mugged inthe last 5 seconds.

Mind you the cricket was on as well. So it was a good day's sport.

I like the fact they never mention that the torch relay is a Nazi invention along with the 5 Ring symbol.

[Quick1]

They screwed us americans out of winning the diving competition. We did it almost perfectly and they give us 6.5's and 5.0s yet the brits F up and they get 7.0s and 8.0s
:foc:

[HeartBreakMan2k]

They screwed us americans out of winning the diving competition. We did it almost perfectly and they give us 6.5's and 5.0s yet the brits F up and they get 7.0s and 8.0s
:foc:
America wouldn't have won that competition, or meddled even if they did give it what it could have earned. Fact is, momentum means a lot in sports. You don't have it, judges are more critical.

[Apprentice]

Phelps was freakin amazing in the 400. Nobody came even close! I could definitely see him breaking Spitz's record.

[BCWWF]

This is one of his best events though, he's got to take the freestyles and relays to ensure anything.

[Rob]

Thorpe will smash him in their head to head.

[Gertner]

Dj Tiesto spinned during the opening ceremonies= the best opening ceremonies ever.

[BCWWF]

I'm going for Puerto Rico

[VonErich Lives]

So, they had the mens gymnastics on at the bar I was at last night and they said that 2days before the competition the head judge told 2 us gymnists that some moves they do, won't be scored the same as they have been and basicly routines they had been doing for over a year they had to change 2 days before the olympics, one guy got a low score, the other added a new move that he only practiced once and missed it during the competition and injured himself (I didn't stay and watch, so I don't know the full extent, looks like he might have just knock himself silly).

Anyway, I don't know anything about the gymnastics... so, can someone who does help me out, why would they change the way they score something 2 days before the olympics? doesn't that seem like they just targeted these two guys?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL Team USA is gettin smoked by PR right now.

Its too bad guys like Ray Allen, Bibby and Carter turned down the Olympics. They are actaully shooters. Puerto Rico is just sitting back in the zone and forcing 20 foot jumpers and none of the guys from USA can hit shit. Got a bunch of slashers and cutters on the team, no shooters.

[Rob]

I'm really looking forward to Track and Field events. I went to school with Jade Johnson and did training with Denise Lewis and Ashia Hansen (who isn't going due to injury) so definately want to see them do well.

[BCWWF]

Yeah, the track events are going to be the best part

[Loose Cannon]

when are they on. Cause that's the other events besides baseketball that I watch. Especially the sprinting.

[BCWWF]

By the way, Iraq is looking awesome, I'm rooting for them to take it all

[Loose Cannon]

By the way, Iraq is looking awesome, I'm rooting for them to take it all

in what?

[Loose Cannon]

oh soccer/football.

[BCWWF]

Yeah, soccer.

I think the track events start later, like in a week or so. I'll ask again though, does anybody know why they have the 10,000 on the track instead of a cross country race? The only thing I can think of is attendance, but a cross country race would be so much more exciting.

[Moonax]

Nothing like patronising a country.

LOL @ Tim Henman. Hopefully all the fucking Daily Mail reading fish wives will fuck off with all their bullshit.

Cooke rode a terrible race in the road race. Glad to see that the second Aussie didn't get a medal after being a lazy fuck.

[DaveWadding]

Watched the Romanian (as well as the US) women's gymnastics team earlier...they are pretty awesome.

I was amazed by the S. African men's 4x100 relay team, they stomped serious ass.

Watching US/Japan in softball...my Jennie isn't pitching :(

[DaveWadding]

Still watching the softball..and they must think everyone watching is stupid. They were explaining the international tie-breaker rule and the changes. And the announce is like "I know some of you are wondering why the int'l tiebreaker rule comes into effect...it's because the game is tied at the top of the 8th..."

Well no shit the TIE-BREAKER rule comes into effect because the game is TIED.

[DaveWadding]

Wow... just wow. Great game played by both sides. Great pitcher's duel between the Japanese's Yuri... Something (I can't exactly remember) and Cat Osterman (who pitched a GEM of a 1 hitter; she had 11 Ks). I was also impressed by Lovie Jung (the U.S. SS) her patience led to her seeing 35 pitches in 3 ABs, which accounted for 30-ish % of the Japanese pitcher total pitch count...just really impressed with her patience and ability to drive it foul. All 3 US runs came in the tie-breaker 8th..so it was a really even game down to the wire.

[BCWWF]

Yeah, the announcers for the less popular events are real bad.

[Moonax]

Hopefully this time the Romanians will keep their clothes on.

[DaveWadding]

Oana Ban can just as well take hers off :naughty:

[Moonax]

Oana Ban can just as well take hers off :naughty:

She's like 9.

Sick fuck.

[DaveWadding]

she's 18... in fact, she's got like 7 months on me. So, nah, she's right. :D

[Moonax]

You fancy a woman who looks like this:

http://www.gymbox.net/images/Maria_Bitang_und_Oana_Ban_Kopie.jpg

Ban is the one on the left.

I think the police should be informed.

[DaveWadding]

She has a rather nice ass, okay?

[DaveWadding]

I think the police should be informed.

"Uh, police?"

"Yes, sir, what is the problem?"

"This guy I know...over the internet, likes his women of legal age!!! :o"

"Thank you sir, we'll get right on that..."

*click*


*roarous laughter*"

[The Mackem]

Thorpe won Gold today didn't he?

[loopydate]

Team Handball = roolz

[MoRcHeEbA]

Canada finally got it's first Medal today and yeah mackem Thorpe won Gold

[ct2k]

Canada:lol:

[Ogen]

ahahaha Dave she looks about 7 you sick fuck :D

[Moonax]

Dave is the Michael Jackson of TPWW.

[yianni]

Handball is an awesome game. Watched Spain-Iceland last night/early this morning. :y:

[Downunder]

Canada finally got it's first Medal today and yeah mackem Thorpe won Gold
And the media over here is sucking his dick - he'll probably enjoy it due to the fact he's as gay as George Micheal

[yianni]

And the media over here is sucking his dick
Ah the Australian mainstream media, they're brilliant. FUCKING NOT. :n:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

"Uh, police?"

"Yes, sir, what is the problem?"

"This guy I know...over the internet, likes his women of legal age!!! :o"

"Thank you sir, we'll get right on that..."

*click*


*roarous laughter*"
She looks about 12, Dave. At the very most. I don't buy that 18 bullshit.

[ct2k]

Well done to Stephen Parry for his bronze! :y:

[Moonax]

Pedo Dave Wadding

Romania kicks ya ass

http://olympics.reuters.com/newsimages/2004/08/17/fs_2004-08-17T212935Z_01_OLY937D_RTRIDSP_2_OLYMPICS-GYMNASTICS.jpg

[Rob]

Ain't you British?

[Jerichoholic]

Dave even made a site to try and justify her being 18, but it isn't going to fool me.

http://www.shanfan.com/bios/banbio.html

[HeartBreakMan2k]

She's only 4 foot 5 or something like that. :|

[DaveWadding]

Yep, I made this site too:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/athletebios/5030580/detail.html

[Moonax]

Since I spend the majority of my working life dealing with Romania, Poland etc I cheer them on.

To paraphrase Terrell Owens:

If you look like a pedophile

If you talk like a pedophile

If you smell like a pedophile

Then you must be Dave Wadding.

[ct2k]

Good on that Polish chick winning the women's 200 (something) earlier, Jerdrzeczyk i think she was called or something

[Rob]

Since I spend the majority of my working life dealing with Romania, Poland etc I cheer them on.

To paraphrase Terrell Owens:

If you look like a pedophile

If you talk like a pedophile

If you smell like a pedophile

Then you must be Dave Wadding.

Don't you mean Rob Feinstein?

[Quick1]

Every judge hates america

[Rob]

Yeah America are getting screwed out of everything aren't they?

Crybaby bastards.

[YOUR Hero]

They have Trampoline events.

At the Olympics.

:|

Canada won a silver or something in it.

:|

Fuck
Off

[YOUR Hero]

...They are considering getting rid of things like the Heptathalon. (sp?) Track events... Yet they have syncro diving, trampoline, ping pong....

The olympics were founded on track and wretling events. Don't touch those.

[Moonax]

The trampolinist gets her 15 minutes of fame and everyone fucks off and stops caring for the next 4 years.

Its no worse than Curling.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Why do they have both volleyball and beach volleyball? Why do they have baseball, but not cricket or rugby?

I don't understand how they pick the sports to be competed. Does anyone know the process?

Trampolining I can understand since it kind of falls under gymnastics.

[Moonax]

Beach volleyball is there for the armchair perverts like Pedo Wadding to jack off to.

They tend to choose sports by ratings - so stuff like Modern pentathlon was dropped because no one was watching whilst beach volleyball was included because they thought it would draw good ratings.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I didn't even realise the penathlon was dropped. That's a bit shitty.

Did you hear about Sepp Blatter calling for beach volleyball outfits to be brought in for women's football to increase ratings?

Yet he insists on docking 6 WC qualifying points from Cameroon for wearing a kit that will help them play in the weather conditions at the Nations Cup.

[Moonax]

Sepp Blatter is a fucknut.

I am fairly sure that bowls used to be included. I know its still part of the Commonwealth games.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Yeah America are getting screwed out of everything aren't they?

Crybaby bastards.
I remember in 96 at Atlanta when Michelle Smith came from no where to win all those swimming golds, and the big American favourites bitched about her publically and cried about it in interviews, and openly suggested she was on drugs.

She probably was, but still, it was good to see them crying about it.

[YOUR Hero]

Ratings.

I know it's about interest, but bullshit.

The pentathalon, is a very interesting sport. You've got to be good in 5 very different events.

I guess it's just "too long" for todays ADD society.

[ct2k]

We beat your Canadia asses in the rowing :cool:

[BCWWF]

I remember in 96 at Atlanta when Michelle Smith came from no where to win all those swimming golds, and the big American favourites bitched about her publically and cried about it in interviews, and openly suggested she was on drugs.

She probably was, but still, it was good to see them crying about it.


:|

[El Capitano Gatisto]

:|
You are a full scale fucking idiot, aren't you?

[Moonax]

If you look most events are over in 5 minutes. Enough time for the TV to do a short piece about the home competitor and then to finish.

And yet some evnets have survived like the Walk

[YOUR Hero]

We beat your Canadia asses in the rowing :cool:
Did you watch that race?
Was that a good race or what??

Back and forth, shit.

[ct2k]

What ECG said is pretty accurate, people couldn't stand some unknown Irish woman winning all the golds and upstaging the Yanks in their own back yard so they immediately played the drugs card

[YOUR Hero]

Canada was supposed to win it.. they even talked openly about winning. I hate that type of shit. Still pissed they lost, but not as much as I'd be if they were humbler (humbler??) before the race.

[ct2k]

Did you watch that race?
Was that a good race or what??

Back and forth, shit.

Was fuckin great!

And good to see the Canadians graceful in defeat too.

Also, Pinsent has to go for the 5th now to tie it up with Redgrave...And i reckon he will do it:y:

[YOUR Hero]

She was hailed very well in Canada. What's happened to her?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

What ECG said is pretty accurate, people couldn't stand some unknown Irish woman winning all the golds and upstaging the Yanks in their own back yard so they immediately played the drugs card
She didn't fail a test, so what can you say? Her problems with the testing procedure, the whole tampering issue, came much later.

The pouts on the faces of the American swimmers, and watching them cry in the pools afterwards was gold.

[ct2k]

Yup, such ungraceful bastards, unlike the Canadians today

[YOUR Hero]

She was hailed very well in Canada. What's happened to her?
won three gold medals at the 1996 Olympics; accused of using performance-enhancing drugs but passed all tests until she was suspended for 4 years by FINA in 1998 for tampering with a urine sample

http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0109654.html

[BCWWF]

You are a full scale fucking idiot, aren't you?

I'm sorry, I guess when you make completely pointless posts its OK because you hate the United States.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I'm sorry, I guess when you make completely pointless posts its OK because you hate the United States.
I don't hate the United States, I just hated the attitude of the competitors that year in Atlanta. Watching them cry because someone upstaged them in their own country was fucking beautiful.

Pretty hilarious of the US team to accuse someone else of being on the drugs, too.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

won three gold medals at the 1996 Olympics; accused of using performance-enhancing drugs but passed all tests until she was suspended for 4 years by FINA in 1998 for tampering with a urine sample

http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0109654.html
Yeah she got done because a urine sample she produced for a random home visit test seemed to have whiskey poured into it. The alcohol found in it was enough to kill a person, or something.

She maintains her innocence. The whole unsavoury business soured her image in Ireland and basically she can't be held up as an Olympic heroine any longer, even though she didn't test positive for drugs at the Games.

Her husband was banned from weight-lifting, I think, for banned substances, and he became her coach. That was another controversy.

Even taking into account what came later, it still wasn't fair play for the American team and media to accuse her of drug taking at the Games.

[The Mackem]

I'm waiting for the track and field really, rowing and swimming are all good but I like the good old track and field. Is Michael Johnson in the BBC studio this year? The guy is amazing and always talks a great deal of sense.

[The Mackem]

Wait a minute, the modern pentathlon has been dropped?

[YOUR Hero]

LOL, poured whiskey in her piss sample. :rofl:

... but you know what. Being that she's Irish, I dougt the amout they found in it was truly enough to kill her. Non Irish people, sure, but not her.

[The Mackem]

They seriously need to drop Tennis. There are too many tennis events during the year with cash prizes for the "stars" to be bothered about.

[YOUR Hero]

Wait a minute, the modern pentathlon has been dropped?
So says Moonax. I do remember (I think) reading that it was. But, well I just don't follow these things very closely.

Think about it though.
Swimming, Shooting, Horse Back Riding, Fencing and then Running all in the same day.

That's quite the feat right thurrrrrr

[The Mackem]

Yeah but wasn't it like hailed as the event for the complete athlete? Yet they drop it and leave some of the other crap on?

[YOUR Hero]

You're singing to the choir my good man.

Even though, for example, Canada has won medals in trampoline and syncro diving, I think they're bogus olympic events, especially when things like pentathalon are dropped.

[Moonax]

I think that they went back and looked at the 1986 100 metres and all but one of the competitors failed a drugs test at some point in their career.

Seriosuly though - who the hell watchs Greco-Roman wrestling.

Rhythmic gymanstics is also pretty stupid.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Canada should lobby for seal clubbing to be made an Olympic event.

[The Mackem]

LOL

[Rob]

Yup, such ungraceful bastards, unlike the Canadians today

That's why we actually have some respect for Canadians. They present themselves as respectful athletes.

Donovan Bailey was an absolute legend here after Atlanta. Still is.

As for Michelle Smith, I'm sure her husband was a swimmer too. Dutch bloke.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He was a weight-lifter, as far as I can remember.

[Moonax]

I stand corrected on Modern Pentathlon. There were claims that it was going to be dropped. I double checked and its still included.

Although the rules of drugs perhaps show why MLB players will never go to the Olympics.


www.theage.com.au

IOC says no sports will be axed
Lausanne, Switzerland
May 18, 2004


Baseball, softball and modern pentathlon were assured yesterday they will remain on the Olympic program at least through the 2008 Beijing Games.

The International Olympic Committee said that, barring serious ethical violations or failure to uphold anti-doping rules, no sports will be dropped before the games of 2012.

The decision, announced by IOC president Jacques Rogge at the opening of a three-day executive board meeting, gives endangered sports more breathing space as they try to preserve their Olympic status.

Rogge said the IOC will review all the sports after this summer's Athens Olympics and decide on the program for 2012 at its session in Singapore in July 2005. Meantime, the current list of 28 Olympic sports will stay unchanged for Beijing, he said.

Baseball, softball and modern pentathlon had been recommended for exclusion by an IOC panel in 2002. At a meeting in Mexico City, the IOC decided to put off a decision until after Athens, but Rogge said at the time the three sports could still be dropped for Beijing.

Today's news came as a big relief to leaders of the three sports bodies.

''I wish they had done this two years ago,'' said Don Porter, the American president of the international softball federation. ''We've been on pins and needles ever since. This gives us more time to develop our sport.''

Klaus Schormann, head of the international modern pentathlon union, said, ''I feel much better. There was always a doubt in the back of our mind, but IOC members have always supported our sport.''

Said Aldo Notari, the Italian head of the International Baseball Federation: ''I was always optimistic, but there was always the fear that something bad could happen. We'll be sleeping better for the next few nights.''

Rogge cited a rule in the IOC charter stating that no sports can be added to an Olympics less than seven years before the games. It had been unclear whether the rule also applied to the removal of sports.

Rogge said sports could only be eliminated for Beijing in the case of serious ethical breaches or failure to sign the World Anti-Doping Code.

Soccer and cycling are the only summer sports yet to sign the code, which sets out uniform drug-testing rules and sanctions, but have promised to do so before the Athens Games in August.

Removal of a sport would require a vote of the full IOC membership, Rogge said.

The last sport dropped from the Summer Olympics was polo in 1936.

Baseball has been a medal sport since 1992.

Softball, a women-only event, was added in 1996. Modern pentathlon, a five-sport discipline created by modern Olympics founder Pierre de Coubertin, was introduced in 1912.

In 2002, a panel appointed by Rogge proposed that the three sports be dropped because of lack of global popularity, high venue costs and, in the case of baseball, the absence of top major league players.

Unlike basketball and hockey, baseball does not send its top US-based professionals to the Olympics. The Olympics are played during the major league season, and commissioner Bud Selig said it is impossible to stop the season to allow players to join Olympic teams.

''If the best players don't go to Beijing, then comes the danger,'' Notari said. ''Major League Baseball understands the problem and is working together with us.''

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Interesting to note there that FIFA haven't signed up to the IOC rules on drugs testing. You wouldn't have guys like Stam and Davids getting 3 months bans for Nandrolone if they did. You have to think that FIFA are perhaps worried about what would happen if there was stricter drugs testing.

Same for cycling.

[BCWWF]

Whats in the modern pentathalon again? I looked at it once and it just looked like 5 rediculously different events, like swimming, shooting, wiping your ass, typing, and checkers or something.

[The Mackem]

From a business sense you would want people representing a country from your team at Beijing. Tapping into the Chinese market can lead to a bit of extra cash.

[BCWWF]

Leave Davids alone :love:

[BCWWF]

apparantly the Chinease are set on winning the most medals in 2008

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Leave Davids alone :love:He is a drugs cheat and he beats his wife and kid. Great guy.

Also utterly overrated, due to sponsorship. Roy Keane slapped his bag any time they stepped out on the same pitch.

[The Mackem]

Yeah, they're not doing too bad this year either. I like it when the smaller countries get medals though. You know those countries where only twenty people live.

[Moonax]

The was the point about Ferdinand. Although man U bitched about how hars the penalty was - the fact of the matter is that if he had been in any other sport he would have been banned for 2 years.

Cycling? Funny how lance Armstrong didn't make it to Athens and that the race was wide open for most of the race. Draw your own conclusions...

[Rob]

Football has different rules though. I'd have no problem with Ferdinand having a 2 year ban if that was the standard. A Man City player no showed a test a month earlier and got off with a fine.

In athletics, you can't go anywhere if you are picked for a random test. An IAAF official is on your shoulder until you pass urine.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

That was the Man City player, and he no-showed a full year or so before Ferdinand, under a different FA administration.

Ferdinand was unlucky in that Palios made an example of him. I felt it was unfair on Ferdinand in that regard, that he may have been punished more because of who he was.

[BCWWF]

Lance raced in Sydney 2000, but I guess that doesn't count because he passed the drug tests, whereas it is just pure speculation, and he had legitimate reason to skip it. You can have your opinion though.

[The Mackem]

I've heard they are like that after football matches. You hear a lot of stories from footballers who want to celebrate with the rest of the team but can't because they have to give a sample and they don't need a piss.

[Moonax]

The general move is to have a standard drugs policy across all sports.

[Rob]

Yeah, his legit reason was he would have failed the GH tests now.

[BCWWF]

I would think that drugs are being banned in most sports due to body harm more than performance enhancement. Yeah something like long distance cycling a drug could make a lot of difference, but if you're good at soccer you're good at soccer. So it would be hard to determine an overall standard for all sports.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've heard they are like that after football matches. You hear a lot of stories from footballers who want to celebrate with the rest of the team but can't because they have to give a sample and they don't need a piss.
Robbie Keane after his last minute equaliser against Germany at WC 2002. Had to give a piss sample, but he was dehydrated.

[Rob]

Any drug that helps build muscle or endurance should be banned and most are.

Any illegal substances found on athletes should be treated in the same way. And they are.

[BCWWF]

If it doesn't hurt your body, why shouldn't a soccer player be allowed to take it? If everybody is allowed to take it, its not a problem.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I would think that drugs are being banned in most sports due to body harm more than performance enhancement. Yeah something like long distance cycling a drug could make a lot of difference, but if you're good at soccer you're good at soccer. So it would be hard to determine an overall standard for all sports.
Considering strength, endurance and speed are a huge part of soccer, performance enhancing drugs can make a huge difference.

[The Mackem]

Especially at the Olympics. In my view it's celebrating what "man" can do at sports through hard work and determination not what some twat in a lab can conjure up.

[Moonax]

Sports should be about skill and natural ability - not about who has the best pharmacist.

[Rob]

Sports should be about skill and natural ability - not about who has the best pharmacist.

Exactly.

[BCWWF]

What about shit like Whey Protien? Do you think that should be illegal?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

What about shit like Whey Protien? Do you think that should be illegal?
Why would it be? Are you trying to be stupid in the vain hope of making some kind of point?

[Loose Cannon]

I'm convinced most these Athletes are all on some shit. I mean every fk'n event there seems to be a record broken. That swimmer Phelps. He's on something, I just know it. I wish there was some kind of machine that everybody has to step through right before the event, and I mean like 10 seconds before and it will go off if you have any kind of drug in your system.

[The Mackem]

Exactly.
I said pretty much the same thing

The whole damn thing is a popularity contest, fuck you all :rant:

[BCWWF]

If you try to take away any performance inhancing substance, you are just fighting a battle you can't win because people are forever going to be able to find shit thats better than the last and that is less and less detectable. I too would rather see who is the best naturally, but the only simple way to deal with it is to allow everybody to use the same things, because obviously any athlete takes things to restore their muscles, or else they wouldn't be able to do what they do.

[The Mackem]

I'm convinced most these Athletes are all on some shit. I mean every fk'n event there seems to be a record broken. That swimmer Phelps. He's on something, I just know it. I wish there was some kind of machine that everybody has to step through right before the event, and I mean like 10 seconds before and it will go off if you have any kind of drug in your system.
Better training methods, better equipment etc.

You've got to remember that these Olympics are held four years apart, that's quite a long time in terms of progress that can be made.

[The Mackem]

If you try to take away any performance inhancing substance, you are just fighting a battle you can't win because people are forever going to be able to find shit thats better than the last and that is less and less detectable. I too would rather see who is the best naturally, but the only simple way to deal with it is to allow everybody to use the same things, because obviously any athlete takes things to restore their muscles, or else they wouldn't be able to do what they do.
Cheaters always get found out, the Olympic games is famous for it.

[BCWWF]

Why would it be? Are you trying to be stupid in the vain hope of making some kind of point?

Do you even know what Whey Protien is or does? Apparantly not, because it enhances muscle production and recovery with no negative side effects. So yes, its giving an advantage to the guys who take it, do you think it should be illegal for enhancing performance?

[YOUR Hero]

Whats in the modern pentathalon again? I looked at it once and it just looked like 5 rediculously different events, like swimming, shooting, wiping your ass, typing, and checkers or something.
Swimming, Shooting, Horse Back Riding, Fencing and then Running all in the same day.

[BCWWF]

Phelps has an incredible body for swimming, which going along with natural talent makes him good. Swimmers break world records all the time, with his body I wouldn't think he would need to dope to break records.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

If you try to take away any performance inhancing substance, you are just fighting a battle you can't win because people are forever going to be able to find shit thats better than the last and that is less and less detectable. I too would rather see who is the best naturally, but the only simple way to deal with it is to allow everybody to use the same things, because obviously any athlete takes things to restore their muscles, or else they wouldn't be able to do what they do.
That's bullshit. That's giving in to drug cheats. It shouldn't happen. People wouldn't get to use the same things, only the athletes who train in countries with effective scientific R and D who can keep them ahead of the competition. Then it becomes a race to see who has the best pharmacologist, not the best athletes.

There is a difference between performance enhancers and food supplements, also. Protein is not a drug. A drug is something which artificially alters your physiology, either acting to by-pass biochemical control or to suppress normal physiological processes.

[Loose Cannon]

Everything that enhances anything should be banned. Just go with what you got, that's all. I played competitive sports for 17 years and never once did I take any kind of kind of supplement. I didn't even drink any of those protein shakes, that so many people love to drink over here.

[The Mackem]

One of the main things, females wouldn't resemble females. Beach volleyball would be totally shit to watch, leading to lower ratings.

We all remember those Russian girls now don't we.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Do you even know what Whey Protien is or does? Apparantly not, because it enhances muscle production and recovery with no negative side effects. So yes, its giving an advantage to the guys who take it, do you think it should be illegal for enhancing performance?It's protein, you dickhead, not a fucking drug. It's something people consume every day, only in a concentrated form.

[Moonax]

Phelps has an incredible body for swimming, which going along with natural talent makes him good. Swimmers break world records all the time, with his body I wouldn't think he would need to dope to break records.

They said the same about Ben Johnson.

[The Mackem]

Swimming, Shooting, Horse Back Riding, Fencing and then Running all in the same day.
For fuck's sake Hero, you're like a broken record.

*Olympic pun*

*God Save the Queen plays as Mackem gets the Gold*

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Do you even know what Whey Protien is or does? Apparantly not, because it enhances muscle production and recovery with no negative side effects. So yes, its giving an advantage to the guys who take it, do you think it should be illegal for enhancing performance?It's protein, you dickhead, not a fucking drug. It's something people consume every day, only in a concentrated form.

[Rob]

If you try to take away any performance inhancing substance, you are just fighting a battle you can't win because people are forever going to be able to find shit thats better than the last and that is less and less detectable. I too would rather see who is the best naturally, but the only simple way to deal with it is to allow everybody to use the same things, because obviously any athlete takes things to restore their muscles, or else they wouldn't be able to do what they do.

So if I decide I don't want to abuse my body with drugs, if my own fault if I can't win gold medals?

Stupid statement dude.

[Rob]

Cheaters always get found out, the Olympic games is famous for it.

How come they never found Carl Lewis out?

[The Mackem]

Because he's American.

[Rob]

Because he's American.

Man talks sense.

[BCWWF]

They said the same about Ben Johnson.


Being incredibly buff and ripped is quite different from height and wingspan, but nice try.

[BCWWF]

So if I decide I don't want to abuse my body with drugs, if my own fault if I can't win gold medals?

Stupid statement dude.

Thats not what I said, I said that if it doesn't hurt your body in anyway then it is just extra work to keep it illegal. I never said anything about keeping harmful drugs legal.

[Moonax]

Johnson had the right physique for sprinting and enhanced it with drugs.

[Bad Company]

Whoo! NZ won their first medal today, go us. :|

[Rob]

Thats not what I said, I said that if it doesn't hurt your body in anyway then it is just extra work to keep it illegal. I never said anything about keeping harmful drugs legal.

What? Reread what you wrote man. The only thing you said you would get out were muscle relaxants.

[BCWWF]

<img>http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/relrpt/images/ben.jpg</img>

[BCWWF]

What? Reread what you wrote man. The only thing you said you would get out were muscle relaxants.

That post was a followup to something earlier, what I was saying was that if you try to get rid of all drugs, harmful or not, you are fighting a losing battle, because there are always new innovative ways to get around the tests. I think that if you focus on the harmful drugs and be more lax on the drugs that don't harm you, it would be a much more effective battle. I probably wrote something poorly up there, but that is what I mean. If it doesn't hurt the body, let it be.

[Rob]

What could be harmful for one person, might not be for another. And they don't even know all the effects of steroids and HGH yet so how so you call those?

Ban the lot. If it ain't natural then it's wrong.

[The Mackem]

Whoo! NZ won their first medal today, go us. :|
It was a fix, they only put Sheep shearing in the Olympics so that you guys wouldn't cry about not winning any medals.

[BCWWF]

If there was an easy way to do it then I would be all up for it, but it doesn't look like there is a strong line in where to draw this line. I say that just because there is a lot of supplemental shit out there that inhances performance too, and I don't think all of that shit should be banned.

[Rob]

Spend money finding better drug testing methods. Simple as.

[Bad Company]

It was a fix, they only put Sheep shearing in the Olympics so that you guys wouldn't cry about not winning any medals.
It was rowing :mad:

[Moonax]

NZ won another medal in the cycling.

Paula Radcliffe. What a fucking waste of space she is. She always fucking bottles it. All the hype and all the bullshit but when it matters she always fucks it up.

Whoever it is who isn't Steve Cram and is commentating can fuck off. Northern cock.

[The Outlaw]

Also have to stress that no matter how ignorant it sounds and how much sh</>it people on these boards will try and put on me, I'm 100% Anti-American in these games. I'm supporting Britain first and anybody not American second.LOL yeah sounds pretty ignorant to me. Then again I guess that isn't rare for everyone to go against us? http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/meh.gif

I'm convinced most these Athletes are all on some shit. I mean every fk'n event there seems to be a record broken. That swimmer Phelps. He's on something, I just know it. I wish there was some kind of machine that everybody has to step through right before the event, and I mean like 10 seconds before and it will go off if you have any kind of drug in your system.
Seriously, can a guy not be good at what he does anymore? Not stabbing at you, but all I ever hear is this guy is on the stuff. Or that guy is on some drugs. I mean when you look at guys that are huge (such as those 6 or so weightlifters who were busted) it's not hard to recognize drugs are involved...but Michael Phelps?! http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/meh.gif

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for getting the cheaters out (whether they be American, British, Australian, or what have you), but until they fail the test,
I'm not going to accuse them of it.

[BCWWF]

Thank you Outlaw, I too am sick of people *cough* moonax accusing people of shit with no proof

[Moonax]

QWhat do the following names have in common?

Tim Montgomery, Kelli White, Tori Edwards, C.J.Hunter, Lance Armstrong, Carl Lewis, Christie Gaines, Dennis Mitchell, Calvin Harrison, Regina Jacobs.

That's right. They've all failed drugs tests.

Plenty of evidence to accuse people with.