Fallout: New Vegas

[FearedSanctity]

Could've sworn there was a thread for this before, but search found nothing.

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[D Mac]

I thought this was gonna be Fallout 3 DLC. But it's a standalone game.

[dronepool]

I can't wait.

[The Destroyer]

The text on the bottom of that flag at the end looks an awful lot like "California Republic" - could be the NCR from Fallout 2. Would be nice if it follows up on some of the stuff from that game.

[LuigiD]

The text on the bottom of that flag at the end looks an awful lot like "California Republic" - could be the NCR from Fallout 2. Would be nice if it follows up on some of the stuff from that game.

That is what some people at other sites are already pointing out.
I think IGN or The fallout wikia did a full analysis of the trailer somewhere out there.

[Ogen]

Whens this out then? Fallout 2 was quality

[Vietnamese Crippler]

That is what some people at other sites are already pointing out.
I think IGN or The fallout wikia did a full analysis of the trailer somewhere out there.

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[FourFifty]

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[Kane Knight]

Any word on whether or not NV will feature VATS?

The third person option of F3 is pretty pathetic, but VATS kind of saves it for me.

[Fignuts]

Not yet, but there is virtually no chance of Fallout NV coming out without VATS.

VATS is to Fallout, as Jumping is to Mario.

[D Mac]

KK I know you hate first person shooters but F3 is a lot better in 1st person then 3rd.

[Kane Knight]

KK I know you hate first person shooters but F3 is a lot better in 1st person then 3rd.

Yeah, and since I don't like the mechanics, that's TOTALLY going to make a difference.

Thank God you're not retarded, son. Otherwise, you might try and tell me that first person was better after I just panned the system in general. :y:

[The Destroyer]

Any word on whether or not NV will feature VATS?

The third person option of F3 is pretty pathetic, but VATS kind of saves it for me.
It will definitely have VATS. It was mentioned in the preview article in PC Gamer that they're adding new stuff for melee weapons to it.

[Requiem]

If they don't use a new engine, I will continue to not care about this piece of shit.

[The Destroyer]

What exactly was wrong with the Fallout 3 engine, pray tell?

[Requiem]

It was the Oblivion engine with a new skin and a couple new features. It is an outdated, clunky piece of crap with terrible animations that doesn't look visually impressive at all, even maxed out, yet runs like CRAP.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

...and yet, gloriously fun and addictive.

[Requiem]

My PC handled Crysis on high (not maxed) smoothly, and it looked incredible.

Fallout 3 on max doesn't come anywhere near the visual impressiveness of Crysis, and graphically lags to shit, even with some settings turned down.

The game wasn't fun at all to me. After the newness wore off, the faults were too distracting for me to enjoy myself. Just the feel of the game made me dislike it completely. It felt cheap, and I would rather not encourage laziness in developers.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

And you don't feel you're missing the point of gaming? It had flaws, yes. A couple of them might even force you to reload a save but you seriously couldn't let them slide and enjoy it?

[Requiem]

Using the same engine twice is one thing. They tried it, and it 'worked', but it could be far better. Using the same engine a third time is just pushing it. It is roughly 4 years old, not including the time it took to develop Oblivion. With as much as technology has advanced, and with what developers have been able to push with consoles, there is no valid reason that you could give me that would justify them using the same engine in a 3rd game. It's not like they don't have the money to develop a new one, or to completely overhaul the current one.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Strikes me as a bit of a joyless way to look at things, but each to his own. I won't say you're wrong, because you're not. But the engine didn't ruin the game, the way, say the Yukes engine does the Smackdown series.

[Requiem]

And you don't feel you're missing the point of gaming? It had flaws, yes. A couple of them might even force you to reload a save but you seriously couldn't let them slide and enjoy it?


And what is the 'point' of gaming, according to you?

I want to enjoy the games I play. I spent money and built a decent PC for gaming. It's not state of the art by any means, but it can handle games on mid-high settings and still look nice. That's not even the main reason for my disliking it though.

I can't enjoy a game that feels like crap. Oblivion, I can give a break. For when it came out, it was pretty impressive. The engine worked for that game because it was designed for that game. It had its faults, but I could deal with that because it was still up to par with, or better than other games of its time. It was new.

Fallout 3, is not new. I felt like I was playing a game that was made 5 years earlier. It didn't have anything to do with the game's features. It had to do with how the game played. If the game plays badly, why would I enjoy it? You're looking at it from the point of view of 'things to do', and yeah.. there were a lot of things to do. Places to go.. people to talk to. But I absolutely hated the way it played.

[Hanso Amore]

SO basically Req is saying its ok to Bang a Good Looking chick once, but if you do it twice you should fuck off.

[Hanso Amore]

I just dont see the "CRAP" Req. The game was a game of the year, critcally acclaimed and loved by a vast majority of fans. Because you didnt like it doesnt make it crap.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

And what is the 'point' of gaming, according to you?



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[Requiem]

SO basically Req is saying its ok to Bang a Good Looking chick once, but if you do it twice you should fuck off.

It's more like.. you banged that MILF/cougar because she was hot at the time. But 5 years later, her age has caught up to her and she's not looking so attractive anymore.

[Hanso Amore]

It's more like.. you banged that MILF/cougar because she was hot at the time. But 5 years later, her age has caught up to her and she's not looking so attractive anymore.

I would still see the true inner beauty inside of her.

[Requiem]

I just dont see the "CRAP" Req. The game was a game of the year, critcally acclaimed and loved by a vast majority of fans. Because you didnt like it doesnt make it crap.

McDonald's is easily the most popular fast food chain in the US, but that doesn't mean it's the best.

[Requiem]

And come on... you would not think the developers were being lazy if they used the same engine in a THIRD game? That is what started this whole discussion... saying if they use the same engine again, I will not give a shit about their crappy game.

[Hanso Amore]

Honestly I dont care what engine they are using if the end product is fun, entertaining and polished.

I would rather they crank out another good game with the same engine than a shitty one with a new engine.

[Buzzkill]

I kind of agree with Req here. I didn't let it ruin the experience for me and I enjoyed it thoroughly, but it did feel pretty cheap. The animations were close to awful and the character models nothing special.

It wasn't soul crushing, but it was definitely frustrating considering the potential of the game.

[Bad Company]

req, you probably should have installed some mod packs, including the hd texture pack and the fallout 3 overhaul kit. Fallout 3 with those packs, at 1920x1080 with full AA and Anso filtering, was absolutely stunning. And fucking awesome, as you get a shitload more guns, game is a lot more realistic. Absolutely loved that game.

[Purgatory]

Any word on whether or not NV will feature VATS?

The third person option of F3 is pretty pathetic, but VATS kind of saves it for me.

A friend of mine brought his right back to the store after "dumping loads of ammo" into a Mutated Ant and couldn't bring it down. I suggested the VATS mode, but he didn't know what I was talking about...But went straight out and rebought the game again.

I love the slo-mo kills in that mode. :D

[D Mac]

Thank God you're not retarded, son.

That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. :D

[D Mac]

Req is entitled to his opinion. Even though it's WRONG

[D Mac]

IGN:

February 16, 2010 - The USA Today is running a little story on Fallout: New Vegas which contains some new extra snippets of info on the upcoming role-playing game. From the little information given, it doesn't sound like Fallout: New Vegas will break the mold and be a drastically different game from Fallout 3, but that doesn't mean changes are not in store.

Rather than beginning with a nameless survivor in a vault, New Vegas begins with a bang. According to USA Today, it starts with your character being shot and left for dead in the middle of the desert, forever unable to complete his delivery mission. Thankfully, a robot (seen in the teaser trailer) digs you out and takes you to Doc Mitchell to be patched up. There you'll be able to customize your character in a way that sounds similar to Fallout 3.

Once ready, you'll be able to explore the area around New Vegas. The game takes place several years after the events of Fallout 3, but that storyline does not continue in New Vegas. Pete Hines, VP of Marketing for Bethesda, told USA Today, "Vegas is up and running. It is not a ghost town. It still exists and thrives. There are casinos, and you can go down onto the Strip. It will have a very different feel from that standpoint."

The area to explore is roughly the same size as what you got in Fallout 3 and Bethesda is promising that it will take hundreds of hours to explore.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Sounds incredible so far.

[Indifferent Clox]

:drool:

[DaBrasko]

Must..... Get.... Game.....

[FearedSanctity]

First screens are out: http://blastmagazine.com/the-magazine/gaming/gaming-news/2010/03/first-fallout-new-vegas-screens-trickle-out/

Yes, it looks exactly like FO3, but what do you expect when they hand it off to another studio AND say it won't be a sequel, but a spin-off?

Bethesda obviously want to make the true FO4 themselves

[dronepool]

I HIGHLY look forward to playing and exploring this game. I put over 120 hours into FO3 and still don't it boring.


When is this coming out?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Sometime this fall. I don't believe a specific release date has been set yet.

[D Mac]

Can't fucking wait. I still have yet to finish The Pitt and the Broken Steel storylines in FO3.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Bump: First Look from IGN

http://pc.ign.com/articles/108/1087125p1.html

[dronepool]

Can't wait. Fallout 3 is probably one of the best games ever.

[DAMN iNATOR]

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[YoungFlyFlashy]

Any new information?

[Joe Kerr]

Really hope they put some kinda Mad max type vehicle in the game kinda like Borderlands.

[whiteyford]

I've noticed alot of the UK retailers are giving you different preorder DLC, dunno if thats the same elsewhere.

[Kris P Lettus]

I am patiently waiting on this..

And Rage which will be out in the spring'..

[The Phenom]

I heard the demo is out on the 360.

[The Phenom]

I'm most certainly getting this when this hits store shelves. Fallout 3 was awesome, i'v got all the dlc which just adds so much more hours of play, i never beat it 100 percent.

[D Mac]

I heard the demo is out on the 360.

Well you heard wrong. It's not there.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Loving this so far... Bar the bugs, the goddamn bugs. The framerate keeps jerking every 2 minutes or so and it's installed, so it's not a disc read issue. And this: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/hollywoodh/e32b43fe.jpg and I'm only on the first frigging quest!

Other than that, it's Fallout 3 :)

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Also, with a rifle equipped, my arms go above my head sometimes while sneaking, making it a bitch to aim :|

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oooo, towns have an attitude towards you. Following the main quest a bit instead of taking a sidequest that can skip a lot of the main quest. Never did get dogmeat on FO3 :'(

[D Mac]

Lucky mother fucker.

[D Mac]

Sure the bugs will be fixed when we HAVE TO BUY THE GODDAMN GAME ON RELEASE DAY. :mad:

[LoDownM]

I haven't seen too many framerate drops, maybe I'm just not noticing them all. I have seen a bunch of radscorpions getting stuck in rocks, then when I'm fighting another one, the one stuck magically gets unstuck.

[D Mac]

How did you get the shit. :mad:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I haven't seen too many framerate drops, maybe I'm just not noticing them all. I have seen a bunch of radscorpions getting stuck in rocks, then when I'm fighting another one, the one stuck magically gets unstuck.

It's gone now, was just when I was following that first bitch seemingly.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just noticed there's no XP bonus for difficulty. Gonna play on Very Easy until I finish it an explore everything, then do the main quest only on Hardcore mode.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Theres a brilliant Super Mutant radio station

Very minor spoiler.

[D Mac]

Aint that the one with the cross dressing mutant?

[PorkSoda]

I bought Fallout 3 about a month ago...and seriously, I played it and got frusterated AS SHIT about it. I thought it was the worst game ever besides Kid Chameleon.

Then, after 5 hours, I finally found Galaxy News Radio and that got the ball rolling. It's fun as shit. I doubt I'll buy New Vegas though........maybe I will after I buy Smackdown

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Saying Kid Chameleon is he worst game ever ruins any opinion you have about anything.

God that games awesome.

[Kris P Lettus]

I CAN NOT FUCKING WAIT

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Aint that the one with the cross dressing mutant?

Not sure, avoided previews for little spoilers like that. Can't get up there either since the mutant rape me.

Another little spoiler There's a perk you can select from the start calle Weird Wasteland that apparently makes some ordinary events odd. Not sure of I've seen it in action yet though

Also found a story bug in a side-quest where someone called me a monster because I helped him sabotage something when I persuaded him into believing the truth :|

[Kris P Lettus]

Not sure, avoided previews for little spoilers like that. Can't get up there either since the mutant rape me.

Another little spoiler There's a perk you can select from the start calle Weird Wasteland that apparently makes some ordinary events odd. Not sure of I've seen it in action yet though

Also found a story bug in a side-quest where someone called me a monster because I helped him sabotage something when I persuaded him into believing the truth :|

I would wait and go that route on the second play-through due to not know what it was effecting..

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I would wait and go that route on the second play-through due to not know what it was effecting..

I'm doing it the other way around, purely because my second playthrough will be in hardcore mode where it's more realistic anyway (Have to eat or get hungry, stimpacks heal gradually and don't heal limbs, need to keep hydrated and sleep as well). There's also apparently a special reward for staying in hardcore mode for an entire playthrough...

[Kris P Lettus]

:y:

[dronepool]

Can't wait.

[D Mac]

Midnight tomorrow (technically Tuesday), I will be getting this.

[Kris P Lettus]

I actually have to work tomorrow until like midnight so I might pick it up after work..

[Bad Company]

Dunno if I'll be able to find a copy to buy in Chile. Gutted.
Is it available on Steam?

[Kris P Lettus]

You are a world traveler who shouldn't worry about petty things like this..

[Bad Company]

This is true, I should be worrying about chasing some tail.

[LoDownM]

1 ending done. Don't know if i'll ever do hardcore mode, sounds rough.

[The Destroyer]

Dunno if I'll be able to find a copy to buy in Chile. Gutted.
Is it available on Steam?
Yes, yes it is.

[The Phenom]

I can't wait till tommorow, i'm probably going to be playing this all day tommorow. I still have not beat fallout 3 100 percent.

[D Mac]

IGN:

Bethesda has announced that it's to bring the first batch of Fallout: New Vegas downloadable content exclusively to Xbox Live.

In a move that echoes the post-launch plans of Fallout 3, Microsoft's Xbox 360 will be getting new content first – although what that content is and exactly when it arrives still remains a mystery.



"We're excited to continue the partnership between Bethesda and Microsoft, and build on the success of the game add-ons released for Fallout 3 on Xbox Live," said Bethesda's Pete Hines. "Fans will once again be able to continue their experience in the Fallout universe with the add-on packs planned for after the launch of the game."

[dronepool]

Assholes.

[D Mac]

Glad I have both systems :cool:

[LoDownM]

Meh. I only enjoyed 2 of the DLC for Fallout 3 anyway, no big deal, not getting my hopes up for the DLC for NV.

[Fignuts]

Do your stats and everything carry over from fallout 3? If not, I'm just going to get this for 360.

[LoDownM]

Don't think so. Different character and all.

[D Mac]

No it's like a few years past Fallout 3.

[Fignuts]

Good, then I can buy it for 360. PS3 hard drive is pretty full, and it will be nice to get the dlc early.

[D Mac]

Upgrading your PS3 HDD is easy, you know. I still have 290 Gig left on my 500 gig.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

FUCKING BUGS. Can't complete a side-quest for one of my party members, even though I know who to talk to :'(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Also, some doctor treated me like I was female...

[G]

Upgrading your PS3 HDD is easy, you know. I still have 290 Gig left on my 500 gig.


How is your mass movie storage journey going. Are you ripping the blu's yourself, or downloading them?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Save game, hack terminal, load game and the terminals already hacked but you lose the XP :mad:

EDIT: I know what's causing this. There's a massive memory leak happening. If you play for a long time, the load times start getting huge before eventually locking up. If you go to the dashboard and start the game again, the problems go away.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

On the plus side, just got to a point in the main quest where there's about 4 paths. Sweet deal.

[D Mac]

Played till 6 AM last night. This is awesome. A little tougher then Fallout 3, and the new ammo types and crafting stuff will take some getting used to. Sure there will be a patch for some of the bugs.

[D Mac]

How is your mass movie storage journey going. Are you ripping the blu's yourself, or downloading them?

Downloading. And they seem to be pretty much the same quality as the originals. Still buying discs from time to time, adding to my "action" collection.

[Ermaximus]

Not sure, avoided previews for little spoilers like that. Can't get up there either since the mutant rape me.

Another little spoiler There's a perk you can select from the start calle Weird Wasteland that apparently makes some ordinary events odd. Not sure of I've seen it in action yet though

Also found a story bug in a side-quest where someone called me a monster because I helped him sabotage something when I persuaded him into believing the truth :|

I would wait and go that route on the second play-through due to not know what it was effecting..

I'm doing it the other way around, purely because my second playthrough will be in hardcore mode where it's more realistic anyway (Have to eat or get hungry, stimpacks heal gradually and don't heal limbs, need to keep hydrated and sleep as well). There's also apparently a special reward for staying in hardcore mode for an entire playthrough...

It more or less makes weird shit happen to you in the Mojave. So far I've seen an alien space ship land and killed three aliens, found what's supposed to be Indiana Jones inside a refridgerator, and was mugged by a gang of grannies. Epic perk to say the least.

[D Mac]

It's awesome when you go to the cemetery and you can hear faint voices. Creepy

[D Mac]

LOL just found out the guy who shoots you in the beginning and leaves you for dead is none other then Matthew Perry AKA Chandler Bing from Friends.

[dronepool]

Love it.

[D Mac]

Sure takes a long time to get to New Vegas. Got about 9 hours playing time in and still have a ways to go before I get there.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So many bugs happened to me at once last night that I'm going to have to wait for the patch. It's unplayable right now and I'm betting it will be like Oblivion where you have to start a new game for all the fixes to take effect.

Luckily, there's enough new games to keep me occupied until the patch is out.

[D Mac]

Installed the game and haven't come across any bugs at all.

[Ermaximus]

Installed the game and haven't come across any bugs at all.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Game is completely installed. It's just gotten silky since doing a few quests on the strip.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

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This just cracks me up for some reason.

[D Mac]

lol

[D Mac]

Game is completely installed. It's just gotten silky since doing a few quests on the strip.

You downloaded it right? Maybe it's an early one that got fixed before the actual release.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

No, it's from a retail disk. They don't actually put the security sectors on which allows the game to boot even on a modded console until the game goes gold.

If it wasn't for reviews telling me how bugged it is, you guys would be freaking me out telling me you've not had any bugs, making me think I did something wrong in a past life or something.

[D Mac]

Fallout: New Vegas patches incoming

* By Tor Thorsen, GameSpot
* Posted Oct 20, 2010 10:01 am PT

Bethesda says it is aware of issues affecting highly rated postapocalyptic role-playing game; patches incoming.

So far, reviews for Fallout: New Vegas have been mostly positive, with the game currently boasting an 85/100 score on Metacritic. However, critics are united in one complaint--well, many complaints, actually, since virtually every reviewer says the game suffers from an array of bugs. One player posted a humorous example from the game's introduction (see below), in which the head of the first character that players meet spins around like a windmill.

Bethesda is readying a series of patches to both eradicate bugs and fix technical issues in Fallout: New Vegas.

Now the game's publisher is assuring the public that fixes are on the way. Speaking with GameSpot, Bethesda Softworks' vice president of marketing and PR said, "We are currently working on releasing patches and updates as quickly as possible for Fallout: New Vegas for all platforms." He did not elaborate but did say that "announcements regarding the patches are forthcoming."

[FearedSanctity]

Haven't installed it and I've come across no bugs

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fuck you all. If I have to start a new game because of my bugs, that's effectively 25 hours of my life wasted. WASTED.

[Fignuts]

Only a few hours in, but I'm liking it so far. More of the same, pretty much, but considering how great fallout 3 is, that's not such a big deal.

I like the homages to the old games. Including the Khans and Jackals was pretty neat. Also saw a screenshot of a super mutant decked out like Lou Tenant.

[Fignuts]

One thing I don't like is that you STILL get bad karma for stealing from evil characters. Even ones that are trying to kill you. Dumb.

[DAMN iNATOR]

For anyone who actually gives a fuck...
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[Ermaximus]

One thing I don't like is that you STILL get bad karma for stealing from evil characters. Even ones that are trying to kill you. Dumb.

Yea, I'm a "bad" character now because I keep pickpocketing from Raiders and Convicts. :roll:

[Fignuts]

OMG sooooooo musch more nostalgia in this than Fallout 3.

Fucking Kahns, Jackals, and Vipers, as well as the Nightkin. The supermutant radio station even makes mention of the Master.

So awesome.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yea, I'm a "bad" character now because I keep pickpocketing from Raiders and Convicts. :roll:

So you should be. Stealing from anyone is bad ;)

[Ermaximus]

So you should be. Stealing from anyone is bad ;)

I'm Vilified now by the Powder Gangers. Oops. I hope they didn't have any quests for me. I also love that fact that now whenever I kill a Powder Ganger I get good karma.

[Fignuts]

If you are trying to be a good guy, then being vilified by the powder gangers is pretty inevitable. They are evil characters.

[D Mac]

Only a 7.5 from Gamespot mainly because of the bugs.

[Johnny McNasty]

Going through as a good character now, so I have to be careful about what I'm doing at all times. Really this is just build up until I feel brave enough to try hardcore mode with my tweener character Trash can Man.

[LoDownM]

I hate being a good guy in these games :( 3rd playthrough I'm going with Caesars Legion just to be completely evil.

[LoDownM]

SHIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I think I got my companions killed :( I told them to go wait at the Lucky 38 while inside the Boomer's place and I think they blew them up :(


edit: whew, nevermind they showed up at the 38, except for Rex, had to go to the kings place to get him to go back.

[Fignuts]

Damn, Boone is nasty. Way better than any of the companions I had in Fallout 3, Fawkes excluded. He one shot kills legion members like nothing, and more importantly, he doesn't die within 5 minutes of getting them. Seemed like most companions in Fallout 3 were mad weak.

[dronepool]

I played Fallout 3 like 4 or 5 times and was always a bad guy... this is no different. I'll hold out and be 'neutral' but I will kill and steal as much as I want.

[Johnny McNasty]

Did anybody select the Wild Wasteland perk when starting out? If so have you noticed any weird things happening yet?

[Fignuts]

Nope.

[LoDownM]

Did anybody select the Wild Wasteland perk when starting out? If so have you noticed any weird things happening yet?

I did my first playthrough, haven't noticed any difference on my second.

[stultiloquy]

Well, bugs aren't necessarily anything new when it comes to Bethesda's games, so I'm hopeful the bugs are limited to minor issues.
However, I'm still a tad worried about all the bugs; I couldn't play Fallout 3 when I first bought it because of a bug that made it incompatible with my previous video card (8600gt).
Basically that bug would always make my comp blue screen after 5 minutes of play time.

I think I'll probably wait for the GOTY edition - that way I can get the game and expansions in one go, and hopefully everything will be patched up by then.

[Fignuts]

Did anybody select the Wild Wasteland perk when starting out? If so have you noticed any weird things happening yet?

Just had one. Trio of old ladys in pink dresses attacked me with rolling pins. Pretty sure it's a monty python reference.

[Johnny McNasty]

Haha that is awesome. Were you anywhere specific or just out wandering about? Still haven't seen anything weird.(well anything weirder than normal for this game)

Was just looking over at the Fallout Wiki and was blown away by the comparison chart between this game and fallout 3. Most impressive was the number of locations in this game compared to fallout 3. Something like 400 to 200! My jaw actually dropped at that, as there is still locations in Fallout 3 that I've never even been to.

[Fignuts]

I was in freeside. Happened when I reentered an area. Don't think it's area specific. Also, when it happens, a notifier pops up on the left, but it doesn't say anything. Just the fallout guy with a spaced out look on his face.

[Fignuts]

Probably never going to be able to get the soundtrack for this, just like Fallout 3. So fucking stupid that there is nothing but a sample disc. Has one of the best soundtracks, and no one has even ripped it. Nothing on Shadowhaxor or galbadia.

[D Mac]

Probably never going to be able to get the soundtrack for this, just like Fallout 3. So fucking stupid that there is nothing but a sample disc. Has one of the best soundtracks, and no one has even ripped it. Nothing on Shadowhaxor or galbadia.

If you download the PC version of Fallout 3 and probably this, there's a way to get the songs. I got Butcher Pete from it.

[Fignuts]

How, just in a folder after installing or something?

[D Mac]

There's a program that opens the files up. You'll just have to google it.

[D Mac]

There was an update. Didn't see any glitches for about 3 hours, then it locked up on me.

[Fignuts]

Just a warning for you guys. Make sure you make multiple saves, because like fallout 3, you can't keep playing after you beat it. Probably so they can release DLC allowing you to.

[Ermaximus]

Caravan is the greatest way to scam people out of their money ever.

[The Fugitive]

Caravan is the quickest way to lose your cool and put a .38 special into the winner's head.

FTFY

[Ermaximus]

FTFY

:lol: Dude, the easiest way to win is by just setting your deck to have four 10's, four 9's, and four 7's. The rest of your deck doesn't matter as long as you have the other cards. When the game starts, just discard everything from your hand that is NOT a 10, 9, or 7. You are able to discard one 10, 9, and 7 and still be ok. Now just lay down either a 7 or 10 in each row and then go up or down accordingly in each row to reach 26. 7, 9, 10, or 10, 9, 7. You'll never lose. If the opponent wins a row, just go after the other two and the game will end and you'll win. I have yet to lose this way.

[Gonzo]

I enjoy the roulette table. I found one at a casino in Freeside. The Atomic something or other. Pretty fun. It's across the street from the Van Graff laser gun store.

[Kris P Lettus]

I had to restart after getting to New Vegas cause if you fuck around in the casinos, you eliminate potential side quests and what not.. I played for about 20 hours and had no problems with bugs.. I don't like how sometimes it'll divide multiple option quests into different quest threads and sometimes it keeps them together..

It's a sweet game though..

P.s. Why don't you get perks everytime you level up???

[LoDownM]

Because there's 30 levels this time instead of 20.

[Fignuts]

I enjoy the roulette table. I found one at a casino in Freeside. The Atomic something or other. Pretty fun. It's across the street from the Van Graff laser gun store.

lol van graff. I went in, and they said I'd have to wait because they're in a meeting. Kept going anyway, and they attcked me. Killed them all and raided their store, and now I'm entering the strip a rich man.

[Kris P Lettus]

Because there's 30 levels this time instead of 20.

There was 30 on FO3 with Broken Steel..

[LoDownM]

I know, but we aren't talking DLC... A perk every level with 30 levels in the game before any DLC would make it easier then it already is.

[Gonzo]

lol van graff. I went in, and they said I'd have to wait because they're in a meeting. Kept going anyway, and they attcked me. Killed them all and raided their store, and now I'm entering the strip a rich man.

Yeah I ended up slaughtering the place to complete a side quest involving Cass.

[Purgatory]

Probably never going to be able to get the soundtrack for this, just like Fallout 3. So fucking stupid that there is nothing but a sample disc. Has one of the best soundtracks, and no one has even ripped it. Nothing on Shadowhaxor or galbadia.

I actually did find an Unofficial soundtrack for New Vegas at Demonoid, so it is out there.

[The Phenom]

Have any you tried the bottlecap glitch at vicky and vances' casino in primm. I got over a million caps in like 5 minutes. There is also a XP glitch in vault 11 where you can rank up to top level in like 5 minutes. To do it make sure you didn't do the recent update, it removes the glitch.

[Ermaximus]

Have any you tried the bottlecap glitch at vicky and vances' casino in primm. I got over a million caps in like 5 minutes. There is also a XP glitch in vault 11 where you can rank up to top level in like 5 minutes. To do it make sure you didn't do the recent update, it removes the glitch.

What cap glitch?

[LoDownM]

If you got the patch, it doesn't work anymore. But he means this one


"Infinite Caps (Pre-Patch)First, you must go to the town of Primm. Complete the "My Kind Of Town" quest for them by getting a sheriff for the town. After you get them a sheriff, or the NCR's troops, you have to wait 3-7 in game days, and the Vikki and Vance Casino will open again in Primm. Go there, and exchange some Caps for some of the casino's chips. Then, turn in the casino's chips for caps. You will notice that when you turn the chips in, you don't have them removed from your inventory, however you get the payout. You can exploit this for as long as you want."

[Ermaximus]

Oh. Had no idea about that. Well I haven't played this in a hot minute so maybe I haven't downloaded the patch. I'll just unhook my network adaptor and give it a try today after work. Granted money isn't a huge issue for me atm, mostly because my caravan strategy netting me tons of money, but still, every bit helps in this game. Especially if you play on the hardest difficulty. Fucking go through stimpaks like a mother fucker.

[Kris P Lettus]

I don't have live so I will def rock this.. What is the vault 11 one??

[dronepool]

Who else robbed and killed everybody at Silver Rush and sold everything? I got about 14,000 caps from that.

[The Phenom]

The vault 11 is a XP glitch. Just go to the mainframe computer terminal and choose the 3rd option just keep clicking it but do not close out otherwise the option will dissappear.

[illmatic]

Who else robbed and killed everybody at Silver Rush and sold everything? I got about 14,000 caps from that.

You have to, to become a member of the BoS. So it was like a double bonus. I got to kill the Van Graffs and rob them blind and also became a Paladin of the BoS and got trained to use power armor and a free pair.

[Verbose Minch]

You have to, to become a member of the BoS. So it was like a double bonus. I got to kill the Van Graffs and rob them blind and also became a Paladin of the BoS and got trained to use power armor and a free pair.

You don't have to do it. You can leave McNamara in power and you get a different quest from the BoS.

[Fignuts]

How do you get black ranger armor? Without killing them, I mean.

[The Fugitive]

Hmm... what about the Antagonist and Mechanist armor switch trick?

I can't see on the Fallout Wikia what this black ranger armor is, but if you can find it there, find a similar piece of armor with a higher value, you should be able to sneak, place the higher valued armor into their inventory, then reload the cell so they equip it, removing the black ranger armor, allowing you to pickpocket it.

[Fignuts]

Black Ranger armor is the outfit the guy on the case, and in all the promo pics is wearing.

[LoDownM]

Did you patch your game Fignuts? Pre patch theres a way to kill people, rangers included, without them attacking you or losing reputation, and then take their armor.

[Fignuts]

Yeah it's patched. Gotta be a way to get it without exploits though, come on.

[LoDownM]

There isn't I don't think, believe me I looked. The only 2 options I know of, is if you are working for the NCR towards the end of the game, or right at the end of the game if you do Mr. House's ending, won't be able to use it till DLC comes out but atleast you'd have it.

Edit: Oh and I guess if you aren't working for the NCR you can find rangers at camps when you are around level 15.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Just got a 360 w/X-Mas funds (yeah, we celebrated early this year...) and this was my first game purchase. Fucking <3 this game so much.

[alvarado52]

You got live Damni?

[RoXer]

Damninator, what is your gamertag?

[D Mac]

Got the Dead Money DLC.

[The Fugitive]

And...?

[D Mac]

It's one of those like the Pit. You get into it, you can't go back until you beat it.

[illmatic]

meh, the dlc is ok. def not like broken steel so that was a disappointment!

[D Mac]

Uh ok. Broken Steel raised your level cap and let you move on past the main quest.

Yeah, big disappointment. :wtf:

[FearedSanctity]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1576856763.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Who else robbed and killed everybody at Silver Rush and sold everything? I got about 14,000 caps from that.

Oh hells yeah.

Not sold all of it though, I use plasma rifles so it's good to have a few spares for repairs.

Love the PC version. Got a mod to create my own bottlecaps at workbenches (1 hammer, 1 paintgun, 1 scrap metal for 50) and a level 100 cap. Just need a new GFX card so it looks alright.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I wiped out the Van Graffs because they wanted to kill Cass and the BoS asked me to in return for joining them. It was a happy coincidence. I planted C4 everywhere around the shop, nicked the Plasma Caster and made a run for it to the bathroom and detonated the C4 to cripple everyone, then annihilated them with the gun. It made pretty short work of everyone. I did this relatively early on in my character, so I had to be a bit sneaky to not get destroyed.

The Anti-Materiel rifle is a monstrous weapon.

[Verbose Minch]

I really wish I could finish the DLC.

It glitches and won't recognize that I've recruited all the characters. :(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I wiped out the Van Graffs because they wanted to kill Cass and the BoS asked me to in return for joining them. It was a happy coincidence. I planted C4 everywhere around the shop, nicked the Plasma Caster and made a run for it to the bathroom and detonated the C4 to cripple everyone, then annihilated them with the gun. It made pretty short work of everyone. I did this relatively early on in my character, so I had to be a bit sneaky to not get destroyed.

The Anti-Materiel rifle is a monstrous weapon.

Same. Unfortunatly, Cass hated me for being an evil bastard and then left after I talked to her.

At least it let me use Power Armor.

[illmatic]

And...?

Uh ok. Broken Steel raised your level cap and let you move on past the main quest.

Yeah, big disappointment. :wtf:

I think you misunderstood what I said. Either that or I mispoke.

I was stating that Dead Money wasn't as good as Broken Steel so I was disappointed. Broken Steel is my favorite DLC on the Box.

[D Mac]

Yeah I realized that when I saw Feared Sanctity's rude post.

Broncos blow. :foc:

[DAMN iNATOR]

*NOTE TO SELF*: NEVER kill a companion and then save immediately after to preserve any chance of the "The Gang's All Here" achievement.

FML. Got into some damn spat with Cass cause she didn't like that my character was "evil", so it devolved into a fucking deathmatch between us. :'( Bitches, man... (yep, even in motherfucking video games...):nono:

[illmatic]

I really wish I could finish the DLC.

It glitches and won't recognize that I've recruited all the characters. :(

Ever finish it? I made major clitch at the end when I had to go down into the safe. I needed the mute bitch but she kept trying to kill me. Figure it out after a couple days....

[dronepool]

So when this DLC comes out for PS3... I like that it raises cap level... but how buggy can it be? Is it like freezing every 10 minutes?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Ever finish it? I made major clitch at the end when I had to go down into the safe. I needed the mute bitch but she kept trying to kill me. Figure it out after a couple days....

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout:_New_Vegas has all kinds of info., don't know about any DLC info for sure, but it's worth a shot.

[RoXer]

Damninator, what is your gamertag?

[Verbose Minch]

Ever finish it? I made major clitch at the end when I had to go down into the safe. I needed the mute bitch but she kept trying to kill me. Figure it out after a couple days....

Nope, I still haven't. Hoping for a patch to come out and fix it.

[illmatic]

Ever finish it? I made major clitch at the end when I had to go down into the safe. I needed the mute bitch but she kept trying to kill me. Figure it out after a couple days....

I should proof read my posts in the future. What I meant to say was. I had a majot clitch at the end when I had to go down into the safe. I needed the mute bitch but she kept trying to kill me. I figured it out after a couple days.

There we go. I did finish it. It was decent, but really not what I expected. I really hope the next dlc is much better.

[DAMN iNATOR]

It's a moot point, RoXer. I have no way of accessing XBox Live, which blows. :mad::nono::(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Decided to stop playing until I get my new PC.

I'll be able to enjoy thenrest of the game with amazing details like "textures" and "stereoscopic 3D".

[James Diesel]

I really wish I could finish the DLC.

It glitches and won't recognize that I've recruited all the characters. :(

I'm not sure if this was your issue but when you recruit the super mutant make sure you're recruiting Dog and not God.

[Verbose Minch]

I'm not sure if this was your issue but when you recruit the super mutant make sure you're recruiting Dog and not God.

Shit, really? That might be it.

I noticed when I have recruited all three, it doesn't register me recruiting Dean Domino either. However, I'll try that Dog/God trick. Thanks bro. :)

[D Mac]

Having a problem. I was doing Ed - E my Love quest and left Ed e with April of the Followers. Then eventually it said Ed e's upgrades are complete, so I went back to Primm and Ed e was not there. Went back to Old Mormon Fort and he and April were not there either. All there is on the map is a marker pointing to Knight Lorenzo and when I talk to him, he says nothing about Ed E. So WTF.

[illmatic]

Shit, really? That might be it.

I noticed when I have recruited all three, it doesn't register me recruiting Dean Domino either. However, I'll try that Dog/God trick. Thanks bro. :)

Actually this shouldn't be the issue. I recruited God on my play through. It actually paid off later on down the line.

I would go back to an early save and go from there. The patches that were released should have fixed your problem.

[illmatic]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Find_Collar_8:_%22Dog%22

[illmatic]

Having a problem. I was doing Ed - E my Love quest and left Ed e with April of the Followers. Then eventually it said Ed e's upgrades are complete, so I went back to Primm and Ed e was not there. Went back to Old Mormon Fort and he and April were not there either. All there is on the map is a marker pointing to Knight Lorenzo and when I talk to him, he says nothing about Ed E. So WTF.

If you dropped him off with the FoA, then you shouldn't have to deal with the BoS. You have to wait 3-4 days after your dropped him off and then pick him up at Primm. It is kinda the same as if you lose one of your companions.

[D Mac]

So it's been about a week and still no Ed-E in Primm. :n:

[G]

:n:

[Ultra Mantis]

Have you got the patch that lets companions fast travel home? If not he might have died on the way :-\

I would check the Lucky 38 too, he's not meant to go there but since this game is riddled with glitches it's a possibility.

[illmatic]

Sooo has anyone else picked up honest hearts? I bought the DLC on Tuesday when it came out. I haven't had a chance to sit down and finish it but have been a little bit of time into it. I enjoy it more than Dead Money. I think this appeals to a much broader group of people than DM did. I love the story about the Burned Man as well. The desert ranger armor is pretty sweet.

[D Mac]

Haven't played this in forever. I haven't even gotten into the last DLC yet. (Sierra Madre or whatever it's called) Will eventually though.

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1768/fallout-new-vegas-ultimate-edition-news.jpg
Includes original game and all DLC (Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, Lonesome Road, Gun Runner's Arsenal and Courier's Stash)

Release: Feb. 7, 2012 (PC, XBOX 360, PS3 [U.S.A.]), Feb. 10 (Europe).

Didn't see any of this info in the VG News thread (surprisingly, since it was announced on Nov. 3rd), so I decided to post it here, just to "get the word out" to people who didn't know of this yet. Also, according to GS website, the Ultimate Edition of the game will retail for $49.99 in the U.S., so sounds like a pretty sweet deal. Definitely getting this.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The DLC is utter shit so I doubt anyone cared enough to post it until now.

[DAMN iNATOR]

The DLC is utter shit so I doubt anyone cared enough to post it until now.

Well, I know a lot of people if not everyone who downloaded Dead Money had trouble with it during the very first part, which was infuriating, but they should have that all fixed by now. Even so, I'm probably one of the very few who haven't experienced all the DLC the game has to offer, so I shall be purchasing a copy.

To each their own, though.

[DaveBrawl]

Yeah I'll be getting it as well. I kept putting it off since I wanted to finish Fallout 3 first before moving on to New Vegas, still haven't finished 3 though, plus I tend to wait for the GOTY edition of Bethesda's games so everything is included.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah I'll be getting it as well. I kept putting it off since I wanted to finish Fallout 3 first before moving on to New Vegas, still haven't finished 3 though, plus I tend to wait for the GOTY edition of Bethesda's games so everything is included.

Yeah, same here pretty much. Skyrim was an exception for me though just because of how epic it is. Dunno if they have any DLC planned for it or not, but time will tell.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well, I know a lot of people if not everyone who downloaded Dead Money had trouble with it during the very first part, which was infuriating, but they should have that all fixed by now. Even so, I'm probably one of the very few who haven't experienced all the DLC the game has to offer, so I shall be purchasing a copy.

To each their own, though.

It's not the crashing, it's the quality. It was all wank.

Yeah, same here pretty much. Skyrim was an exception for me though just because of how epic it is. Dunno if they have any DLC planned for it or not, but time will tell.

Skyrim has already had DLC announced.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I know what you meant about the Fallout DLC all being terrible, at least from your personal perspective. I only made that statement because all I have played of the DLC so far is that little tiny bit of the beginning of Dead Money.

And thanks for the update on the Skyrim DLC situation. I did not know they had already announced anything in that regard, hence why I said as much.

[Kris P Lettus]

Problem

I am playing this again and I was doing very well.. Around level 13ish I made it to New Vegas being vilified by by the Legion and the Powder Gangers and idolized/liked by Goodsprings, Primm, No Vac, and the NCR.. I completed all the Van Graffs quests but then when I went back and to Camp McCarren, the NCR troops are shooting at me.. I don't understand this because the last part of the Van Graff storyline is Gloria fucking over Ceasar's Legion and helping the NCR.. It says they are neutral now..

The only other thing I did during this time was, I was doing the Vault 22 mission fot the doctor at Camp McCarren but my lockpick wasn't high enough (75) to open the door to download the data, so I left and started the Van Graff shit, thinking when I leveled up again I could go back and complete it, which I did (but going back, I found the Overseers Office and found you could unlock the door from there).. Once I got the info, I went back to McCarren and that's when they attacked..

Any reason for this??

Why are they still label as "neutral" if they attack on site??

Anyway to fix this??

This is why I never beat this shit when it first came out..

:wavesad:

[Verbose Minch]

Problem

I am playing this again and I was doing very well.. Around level 13ish I made it to New Vegas being vilified by by the Legion and the Powder Gangers and idolized/liked by Goodsprings, Primm, No Vac, and the NCR.. I completed all the Van Graffs quests but then when I went back and to Camp McCarren, the NCR troops are shooting at me.. I don't understand this because the last part of the Van Graff storyline is Gloria fucking over Ceasar's Legion and helping the NCR.. It says they are neutral now..

The only other thing I did during this time was, I was doing the Vault 22 mission fot the doctor at Camp McCarren but my lockpick wasn't high enough (75) to open the door to download the data, so I left and started the Van Graff shit, thinking when I leveled up again I could go back and complete it, which I did (but going back, I found the Overseers Office and found you could unlock the door from there).. Once I got the info, I went back to McCarren and that's when they attacked..

Any reason for this??

Why are they still label as "neutral" if they attack on site??

Anyway to fix this??

This is why I never beat this shit when it first came out..

:wavesad:

Are you wearing Legion armor?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I know what you meant about the Fallout DLC all being terrible, at least from your personal perspective. I only made that statement because all I have played of the DLC so far is that little tiny bit of the beginning of Dead Money.

And thanks for the update on the Skyrim DLC situation. I did not know they had already announced anything in that regard, hence why I said as much.

Have they discounted any of the Fallout DLC for the 360? It seems a bit much for 800 for such old DLC.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

DLC rarely gets discounted on Live. It might appear in sales, but rarely reduced.

[Kris P Lettus]

Are you wearing Legion armor?

no, reinforced leather or van graff combat armor

[Tom Guycott]

Doesn't the Van Graff armor count as faction armor against NCR?

I don't remember, haven't played it in awhile... but I think while the regular armor is neutral, the Van Graff variant is flagged. Hopefully, you keep a seondary save or two. You could go back and try that spot again in different armor.

Also, what is your relationship with Cass at this juncture?

[Kris P Lettus]

I tried switching to the leather armor and they continued to attack.. My last save was an hour and a half before..

[Verbose Minch]

Have you tried waiting three in game days?

[Kris P Lettus]

No

Does that lessen the raised hatred??

[Verbose Minch]

No

Does that lessen the raised hatred??

Usually that resets their anger unless you've done something storyline related to fuck it up. It doesn't sound like you've done that though, so I would imagine it would fix it.

I'll do some looking online to see if I can find anything related to your problem, just in case that doesn't fix it.

[Kris P Lettus]

Im guessing I killed an NCR troop during that raid with Ceaser's Legion and the Van Graffs..

[Purgatory]

that might do it too. Try going in with NCR armor after waiting 3 in-game days.

I had tried do something neutral with the Legion. I knew where they were gathered, but I had forgotten to change out of my NCR armor. Screwed all that up. lol

[Kris P Lettus]

thanks

[Kris P Lettus]

They still attacked after 3 days.. Do you think setting up Cass might have cause it?? Went back and lost an hour and a half but I think I'll stay away from the Van Graffs till later this time..

[Purgatory]

That could have. For whatever reason, I could never get Cass to follow me. Someone had told me to get her help, and I just couldn't get the option in my dialog with her to follow me, or anything. Gotta be something else I either didn't do, or did, but shouldn't have. Dunno

[Kris P Lettus]

That could have. For whatever reason, I could never get Cass to follow me. Someone had told me to get her help, and I just couldn't get the option in my dialog with her to follow me, or anything. Gotta be something else I either didn't do, or did, but shouldn't have. Dunno

She is kind of a bitch.. I think yr karma has to be neutral to good and you have to have high speech.. After you finish "Heartache by the Numbers" (which never moves into the completed section for whatever reason :mad: ) you can ask her what's she gonna do next, then tell her she shouldn't rot in that place drinking herself to death, then tell her to follow you..

If that didn't work it's prolly a karma/speech issue.. Also think you need good standings with all the Crimson Caravan which you should have if you beat the Heartache quest..

[DAMN iNATOR]

Have they discounted any of the Fallout DLC for the 360? It seems a bit much for 800 for such old DLC.

DLC rarely gets discounted on Live. It might appear in sales, but rarely reduced.

Yeah. @STD: I’d highly recommend you just pick up a copy of the ultimate edition on-disc. It’ll cost you way less (like $20 or less) that way.

[Kris P Lettus]

New glitch:

Now when Boone is following me, anytime I look remotely towards his direction he prompts the conversation.. I sent him back to the Lucky 38, restarted game and went and got him and he still does it.. Sucks cause I had him pimped out in badass combat armor and he was a beast.. Now I'm stuck with Veronica..

:foc:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Did anybody else just side with House because he's Odo like I did?

[Kris P Lettus]

I have never had Raul as a companion and he is hilarious.. Boone was a straight up killer but I like Raul even more..

Like when you are sneaking and he's like "all this crawling around is killing my back, boss" or if you get yr shots off and kill the threat before he has time to get involved he's like "sorry, boss, my glaucoma is acting up"..

lol

[MVP]

I always had trouble getting Veronica to say her dialogue prompts to activate her side quests.

Love having Boone as a companion, especially paired with Rex. Pretty much unstoppable.

[Kris P Lettus]

I have Raul and Rex.. Might try to get Boone one more time but that glitch was driving me bonkers..

[Shadow]

I do EDE and...whoever else is around at the time. Usually Boone or Raul. What can I say, I like long ranged sniper stuff.

[Tom Guycott]

Boone is the freakin' man... UNLESS you're trying to sneak around some Legion (say, doing some side-mission stuff where killing them makes things go sideways). I've barely ever been a spotter, and he takes care of targets I didn't even know were there since they're out of my radar range, unless I have EDE. Between him and Cass (my fav... even outside of the fact that she's one huge nod to Fallout 2), I made a lot of things dead in the Mojave.

Also, I like rocking that beret he gives out. I'd wear that IRL, like my Jayne hat.

[Kris P Lettus]

ok

THIS WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS

I am to the point now where I can tell yes man about the factions or go to Ceasar..

I'm loved by the NCR, Boomers, and accepted by the BoS, and liked by the Legion.. I've done all the sidequests I can find up to this point.. I want the BoS to say they will back me in the battle but even after becoming one that still wasnt an option..

Does my next move have to be either go to Yes Man or Ceaser??

Can you get the BoS to back you like the Boomers did??

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm gonna go fuck around and wait on that doctor to finish with Lilly cause that is the only sidequest thing I have left..

[Verbose Minch]

ok

THIS WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS

I am to the point now where I can tell yes man about the factions or go to Ceasar..

I'm loved by the NCR, Boomers, and accepted by the BoS, and liked by the Legion.. I've done all the sidequests I can find up to this point.. I want the BoS to say they will back me in the battle but even after becoming one that still wasnt an option..

Does my next move have to be either go to Yes Man or Ceaser??

Can you get the BoS to back you like the Boomers did??

If I remember correctly, the only way you can get the BoS side with you is when you're with the NCR. Other than that, they're ignored or killed.

[Kris P Lettus]

Can you be NCR, Boomers, and BoS??

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, how long does the testing the doc at Jacobstown does on Lilly last?? It's been like two weeks game time and he is still working..

[Verbose Minch]

Can you be NCR, Boomers, and BoS??

I believe so. I only did one NCR playthrough, but that sounds right.

As for the Lily quest, I just looked it up and it shouldn't take more than 30 real life minutes. Try talking to the doctor again and getting him to start the experiment.

[Shadow]

BoS will only help you during Anarchy(Yes Man) or an NCR run. Legion and Mr. House don't like them.

[Kris P Lettus]

Well yeah..

Good guys: NCR, Boomers, BoS, Kings

Bad guys: Legion, Fiends, Jakals, Mr. House, Yes Man, Powder Gangers, Van Graffs

[Shadow]

Yes Man isn't a bad guy. He just leads to an ending in a game I've been hoping for all my life.

[Kris P Lettus]

So I beat it but wanted to go back to explore more/etc.. I go back to the last save before going to Hoover Dam, which is right before the conversation with Yes Man that took me there.. When I go back to Hoover Dam, it's already on fire, there are Legion everywhere, with NCR killing them, and the quest is already on No Gods, No Master or whatever.. Even though it was a permanent save BEFORE ever going to Hoover Dam (pre-Presidential visit, meeting the Major, adding the chip, etc.) it is acting like all that is already done.. Pretty fucked up..

:(

I can go back like 2 hours and it's not affected..

These games would be GOAT if they didn't have so many fucking bugs..

[Verbose Minch]

Don't see how Mr.House is a bad guy.

[Kris P Lettus]

That's the thing about it, it's alot of "gray area".. I considered him a "bad guy" cause he was against the NCR and the BoS..

[Kris P Lettus]

Are there mods for every weapon??

[Shadow]

Not every weapon but damn few of them get away without any mods. Mostly melee and energy weapons.

As for House being a bad guy....eh. The only true villains in this game are the Legion. And that's only because there had to be something to take the place of the Enclave in pants on head retarded way of living. House only wants what's best for New Vegas and he thinks he knows what's best. I don't agree with killing the BoS even if they are a threat. They're bottled up in Happy Valley. They're not coming out. And they've got access to very advanced tech. Haul 'em out of there and use them. I mean he's willing to use the Boomers why not BoS?

[Tom Guycott]

Would have been interesting to see how the Legion were to have played out if they weren't pegged as so evil from jump. Something besides "safety in ruthlessness" that a few travelling merchants may enjoy to make you actually think twice about how they do things and if you're down with it... and if Ulyssess had remained a Legion loyal recruitable companion like originally intended.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Don't see how Mr.House is a bad guy.

I considered him a bad guy because of he was similar to the President in Fallout 3.

Although the best bad guys around think they are actually doing good acts.

I only sided with him because he's Odo.

Killing him is ubsurdly easy so I guess he can't be all that evil using video game logic. If he was really evil it would be hard to kill him. Emotionally hard maybe because it's basically just killing an old dude.

[Kris P Lettus]

You have to get through all his defenses first and gain his trust to get close enough to him to kill him though.. You would never even know he was a feeble old man if he didn't let you know..

Anyway, I went back to do some more exploring and I found The Thorn for the first time.. I did all the fetch 'em quests for Red Lucy and then we went to her room to bang.. It was pretty funny having Raul standing there watching and Rex barking the whole time.. I wish Raul would have commented though..

[Shadow]

Yeah....the companions watching you have sex is kinda funny. It's even funnier when your main companion watches you get kidnapped from your very own home.

*glares at Lydia*

SWORD AND SHIELD MY ASS!

[DAMN iNATOR]

You have to get through all his defenses first and gain his trust to get close enough to him to kill him though.. You would never even know he was a feeble old man if he didn't let you know..

Anyway, I went back to do some more exploring and I found The Thorn for the first time.. I did all the fetch 'em quests for Red Lucy and then we went to her room to bang.. It was pretty funny having Raul standing there watching and Rex barking the whole time.. I wish Raul would have commented though..

LOL, pfft that’s child’s play man. Just do one or two of The House Always Wins parts (it breaks up into VIII parts), and have high enough rep on The Strip, also absurdly easy, and then just hack a couple terminals, kill a couple bots, enter the ante-chamber, open the seal to his life support thing and kill his ass.