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Old 12-17-2003, 06:17 AM   #1
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Old 12-17-2003, 06:21 AM   #2
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Old 12-17-2003, 06:24 AM   #3
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Old 12-17-2003, 06:26 AM   #4
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whoa what happen to my poll. ah well. good choice though.
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Old 12-17-2003, 06:43 AM   #5
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"The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase,hands down.

He had it all: the charisma,the gimmick,the ability,the skill,and more
importantly,he was a wrestler.Thanks to political maneuvering by a
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Old 12-17-2003, 06:48 AM   #6
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Old 12-17-2003, 06:48 AM   #7
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who will be the first dick to say RVD?
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:33 AM   #8
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who will be the first dick to say RVD?

RVD
Chris Benoit and Owen Hart
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:35 AM   #9
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Million Dollar Man, Owen Hart, Davey Boy Smith, Jake Roberts, Curt Henning, Ricky Steamboat (probably was an NWA champ or somthing, but I never got that so I dunno) are the obvious ones.

I would say a lotta current guys, but should probably give em a few more years, and they will be champs.
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:35 AM   #10
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Chris Benoit and Owen Hart
benoit has been wcw champ
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:38 AM   #11
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benoit has been wcw champ
Hardly counts, since he held it for like, a day.
(correct me if i'm wrong, I never really followed wCw)
I presumed we were talking WWE...
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:40 AM   #12
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Hardly counts, since he held it for like, a day.
(correct me if i'm wrong, I never really followed wCw)
I presumed we were talking WWE...
using that logic you could say STING
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:42 AM   #13
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using that logic you could say STING
Nah, since he never wrestled for the WWE.
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:44 AM   #14
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Nah, since he never wrestled for the WWE.
Exactly what I was gonna say...
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:52 AM   #15
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try looking at the title of this post

and then tell me where it says wwe
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:23 AM   #16
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Definately Mr. Perfect as that is why I consider him the greatest I.C. Champion of all-time. If there ever was an individual that defined the I.C. division, it would be him because he never held the World Title. If not for HOGAN being in the WWF, who knows, he might have won the darn thing.
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:27 AM   #17
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Definately Mr. Perfect as that is why I consider him the greatest I.C. Champion of all-time. If there ever was an individual that defined the I.C. division, it would be him because he never held the World Title. If not for HOGAN being in the WWF, who knows, he might have won the darn thing.
Bret Hart v Mr Perfect

Summerslam 91

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Old 12-17-2003, 10:42 AM   #18
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I pretty much agree with what has been stated above, but I'll throw in the Dynamite Kid, Brian Pillman, and Tully Blanchard as a few other greats who never held the World Title.
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Old 12-17-2003, 11:02 AM   #19
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I would have to say, MENG (a.k.a. Haku). He ALMOST won the damned thing against GOLDBERG on WCW NITRO, he even locked in the DOUBLE GOOZLE. But the referee sort of "forgot" to count to 3 or whatever. Meng started celebrating his victory, then got speared, etc. Sigh...those were the days...
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Old 12-17-2003, 01:18 PM   #20
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Old 12-17-2003, 01:30 PM   #21
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Old 12-17-2003, 02:25 PM   #22
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Million Dollar Man, Owen Hart, Davey Boy Smith, Jake Roberts, Curt Henning, Ricky Steamboat (probably was an NWA champ or somthing, but I never got that so I dunno) are the obious ones.

I would say a lotta current guys, but should probably give em a few more years, and they will be champs.
Ricky had a short run with the NWA World Heavyweight Title (and
despite the fact that Sabu and Chris Candido have held that title,
it's still the most prestigious belt ever).He also had 2 short stints w/
the US Title; 2 short runs with with the Television Title and 2 NICE
Tag Title runs with Dustin Rhodes & Shane Douglas (in addition to
being a 4-time NWA Tag Team Champion and a WWF IC Champion).

I don't think he really needed a belt to be over (just like some of
the other greats),but a little longer run would have been nice for
his career....

I think Jake never got the shot because he didn't fit WWF's "mold"
for a typical champion (not to mention backstage politics and the
"personal demons" he battled). Bulldog I think would have made a
fine WCW Champion while he spent some time there in the earlier
1990's; he had some GREAT matches with Sting,Vader,Sid,Harlem
Heat and Dustin Rhodes (among others).

Owen Hart (May He Rest In Peace),if he would have lived would
have held the World Title @ some point.I think instead of smaller
runs,Owen should've had a longer run with the IC Title.He could
have done so much more for that title.Owen was a wrestler's wr-
restler,as was Bret Hart,and was amazing to watch in the ring...

Curt Hennig (yes,Hennig) was another guy who had some good
runs (WWF IC titles,WCW US Title,AWA Tag Titles,and was a fi-
ne AWA Champion (I'm sure he's held other belts,but those are
the ones I can remember right now - besides his short run with
the WCW Tags in late 90's).

Ted DiBiase is still the man
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Old 12-17-2003, 03:43 PM   #23
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It's a tie for me between Ted DiBiase and Owen Hart. In the end I'm tempted to say DiBiase, mostly because I think that if Owen hadn't died he'd have gotten it eventually.
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Old 12-17-2003, 03:45 PM   #24
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I think if hall got over his problems he was world champion material. i mean, there have worse. Diesel, Pyscho Sid, HHH, many others.
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Old 12-17-2003, 03:50 PM   #25
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I would have to say, MENG (a.k.a. Haku). He ALMOST won the damned thing against GOLDBERG on WCW NITRO, he even locked in the DOUBLE GOOZLE. But the referee sort of "forgot" to count to 3 or whatever. Meng started celebrating his victory, then got speared, etc. Sigh...those were the days...
The togan (sp) death grip.

I remember his match with Goldberg. It was a kind of lumberjack match. Meng had nWo black and Goldberg had the Wolfpac.

I remember when Meng got the death grip on Berg, but I think Meng got him down and just went away to deal with the lumberjacks or something. Cant quite remember exactly. Anyway Berg ended up winning. I was glad
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Old 12-17-2003, 03:51 PM   #26
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I pretty much agree with what has been stated above, but I'll throw in the Dynamite Kid, Brian Pillman, and Tully Blanchard as a few other greats who never held the World Title.
Oh man Pillman as champ would of ruled. Although his wrestling skills took a tumble after the many injuries recieved, he could cut a fk'n awesome promo and his "Loose Canon" character was one of the best character's of all-time. It's too bad he couldn't have feuded with Austin over the World Title. That would of been one hell of a feud.
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Old 12-17-2003, 04:01 PM   #27
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Old 12-17-2003, 04:15 PM   #28
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Old 12-17-2003, 04:22 PM   #29
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Old 12-22-2003, 11:00 PM   #31
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i think without shadow of a doubt RVD(HE SUCKS)and he didnt want to come back to the wwe b/c he contract ran out and he was not going to sign another one but the wwe offered him a very big money sum to come back and so he did
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Nathan Jones.

Seriously, think about it. I think he would make a great champ if he didn't quit WWE. He really did had a huge future ahead of him. But I'm hoping WWE will get him back.


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Old 12-23-2003, 12:04 AM   #33
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Old 12-23-2003, 12:27 AM   #34
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Boo at you Nathan Jones haters

After Jones returned from his injury, he was improving and you could immediately see that he was having a huge future ahead until he decide to leave.
I hope that was sarcasm

To even put Nathan Jones' name in the same category with
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Old 12-23-2003, 02:20 AM   #35
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In no particular order

Ric Rude
Curt Hennig
Ted Debiase
HHH

And probably not as deserving as the rest but still unlucky

Arn Anderson ( i think he never won the big one)
Tully Blanchard
Scott Hall

I know some will argue with me about Hall but if you consider how long he spent at the top and some of the crappy champions they had both in WCW and the WWF such as Sid and a various assortment of others he was extremely unlucky in never snagging the big one even as a transition champion.
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Seriously, think about it. I think he would make a great champ if he didn't quit WWE. He really did had a huge future ahead of him. But I'm hoping WWE will get him back.
Yeah and you say you're not a troll.
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Old 12-23-2003, 10:15 AM   #37
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