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Old 10-04-2012, 11:21 AM   #1
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What was wrong with the Bill Watts Era in WCW?


So watching this DVD, and looking at some matches from 1992, what was soo bad about the "Bill Watts Era" in WCW? It seemed like they still had solid high flyers like Pillman, Liger, Muta and Steamboat. The company seemed to be built around quality matches, not really "sports entertainment" based. 6:50 as a Tuner exectutive, that's all I'd have to hear about to support the head of a product. Outside of the racial issues he was accused of, what was so bad about the Watts Era in WCW?



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Old 10-04-2012, 12:26 PM   #2
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Wrestling was in a "down period" to begin with and "pure wrestling" has never drawn on a national scale. WCW in the early 90s had good wrestling, but the storylines were generally shit. Was he before or after the Robocop and Scorpion incidents?
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:36 PM   #3
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I think that Bill just clashed with the execs at Turner, and in turn, created an out of date product.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:19 PM   #4
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Wrestling was in a "down period" to begin with and "pure wrestling" has never drawn on a national scale. WCW in the early 90s had good wrestling, but the storylines were generally shit. Was he before or after the Robocop and Scorpion incidents?
Bill came after those incidents.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:39 PM   #5
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He made Ron Simmons the champ, love the guy but he's not really a main eventer
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:38 PM   #6
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Sports entertainment draws on a world-wide scale, pure wrestling does not. Bill Watts's ideas did not have mass appeal.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:18 AM   #7
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He made Ron Simmons the champ, love the guy but he's not really a main eventer

I thought that was Dusty's doing
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:06 AM   #8
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Didn't he enforce a rule during his tenure by which you would be disqualified for throwing an opponent over the top rope?
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:27 AM   #9
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Didn't he enforce a rule during his tenure by which you would be disqualified for throwing an opponent over the top rope?
That rule actually predated Watts. He was anti-Jump off the top rope. A pandora's box that was opened long ago.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:43 AM   #10
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I thought that was Dusty's doing
I remember reading that Bill Watts did it in Foley's first book and a quick wiki search tells me it was Bill Watts too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Wa...ship_Wrestling
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:54 AM   #11
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Mick Foley referred to Watts' history of "creating a black babyface and building the company around him", while talking about his match with Simmons.
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I want to see an African American win the WWE title.

Unnrelated question: Is there more WWE champions from Mexico than from Canada? Its 3 to 2 right?
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I want to see an African American win the WWE title.

Unnrelated question: Is there more WWE champions from Mexico than from Canada? Its 3 to 2 right?
Bret Hart, Edge, Jericho, Ben Wah
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:07 PM   #14
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Didn't he enforce a rule during his tenure by which you would be disqualified for throwing an opponent over the top rope?
That rule was an NWA rule that WCW kept until 1998, five years after breaking away from the NWA, due to many heel champions using that excessively to retain their titles.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:17 AM   #16
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That rule was an NWA rule that WCW kept until 1998, five years after breaking away from the NWA, due to many heel champions using that excessively to retain their titles.
Bullshit. They cut that rule way before that.
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heard plenty of times he was just a bit shit to work for, a bit of a bully, liked to throw his weight around etc
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:20 PM   #18
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heard plenty of times he was just a bit shit to work for, a bit of a bully, liked to throw his weight around etc
Yeah, the only one I recall who stood up to Bill Watts was Brian Pillman.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:12 AM   #19
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Pillman? You're kidding me, right? I was under the impression he *respected* anyone who was the bookerman!
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Pillman? You're kidding me, right? I was under the impression he *respected* anyone who was the bookerman!
Well, Watts wanted Pillman to break his contract or risked being jobbed forever. Brian said something along the lines of "Fine, I'll be the highest-paid jobber in the company."
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But that fourth guy you just named never existed :/
and only held the WHC if he did exist.
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