12-23-2003, 11:53 AM | #1 |
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WWF/WWE Fifty Greatest Wrestlers
I was looking at this pic (which is a bit too small) and I was wondering who are the wrestlers on the bottom row? I only recognize Iron Sheik, Flair, Kane and if I'm not wrong the second person on the right is Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndoff. |
12-23-2003, 12:47 PM | #2 |
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On the bottom is JYD and Orndoff.
I believe the wrestler next to flair MIGHT be, or looks like Bruno Samurtino. |
12-23-2003, 01:29 PM | #3 |
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The guy next to Flair would be Gorrila Moonson.
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12-23-2003, 01:50 PM | #4 |
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bret hart is #1 what were they thinking
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12-23-2003, 02:22 PM | #5 |
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Does anybody actually have this magazine who would be willing to post the entire list? I don't want to buy it myself, but I'm curious who's in it.
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12-23-2003, 03:24 PM | #6 |
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I think that's Bam Bam Bigelow in the bottom corner, and Pedro Morales is on the bottom row too.
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12-23-2003, 03:47 PM | #7 | |
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12-23-2003, 04:23 PM | #8 |
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It may be just because I have bad eyesight, but is that Kane on the bottom row, forth from right?
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12-23-2003, 04:30 PM | #9 |
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interesting to say the least. Lord knows why Brock Lesner is on that list.
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12-23-2003, 04:31 PM | #10 | |
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12-23-2003, 04:32 PM | #11 |
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Thats some bullshit.
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12-23-2003, 04:32 PM | #12 |
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Yeah that looks like kane. And if he is on this list then thats really screwed up.
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12-23-2003, 04:37 PM | #13 | |
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12-23-2003, 04:37 PM | #14 |
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Here's what I got...
ROW 1: Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, Andre The Giant, Honky Tonk Man, Ultimate Warrior, ??????, Bob Backlund, Sgt. Slaughter, Roddy Piper, ?????? ROW 2: Kurt Angle, ???????, Chris Jericho, ???????, ??????, Mick Foley, ??????, Jimmy Snuka, Scott Hall, ??????? ROW 3: Jake Roberts, ??????, ??????, ??????, Triple H, Stone Cold, Ted Dibiase, ????????, Yokozuna, ??????? ROW 4: ???????, The Undertaker, Jesse Ventura, Shawn Michaels, The Rock, Moolah, Macho Man, Brock Lesnar, Rick Rude ROW 5: Shiek, Haku, ???????, ???????, ???????, Ric Flair, Kane, JYD, Paul Orndorf, ?????? WHERE THE F*CK IS CHRIS BENOIT?!?!?! |
12-23-2003, 04:38 PM | #15 |
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WHY THE **** WOULD HAKU BE ON THERE?
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12-23-2003, 04:39 PM | #16 |
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Good list besides that though.
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12-23-2003, 04:40 PM | #17 |
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That can't be Haku. JYD WTF. Why is he on there
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12-23-2003, 04:42 PM | #18 |
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I think next to Jericho is Bobo Brazil
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12-23-2003, 04:43 PM | #19 |
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Nah, it really looks like Haku. Can't think of anybody else it would be.
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12-23-2003, 05:11 PM | #20 |
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I got this list from another site:
1. Bret Hart 2. Hulk Hogan 3. Andre the Giant 4. the Honky Tonk Man 5. Ultimate Warrior 6. Killer Kowolski 7. Bob Backlund 8. Sgt Slaughter 9. Roddy Piper 10. Don Muraco 11. Kurt Angle 12. Jay Strongbow 13. Chris Jericho 14. Bobo Brazil 15. Bruno Sammartino 16. Mick Foley 17. Ivan Putski 18. Jimmy Snuka 19. Scott Hall 20. Antonio Rocca 21. Jake Roberts 22. Pat Patterson 23. George Steele 24. Billy Graham 25. HHH 26. Steve Austin 27. Ted DiBiasse 28. Wendi Richter 29. Yokozuna 30. King Kong Bundy 31. Buddy Rogers 32. Undertaker 33. Jesse Ventura 34. HBK 35. Ricky Steamboat 36. The Rock 37. Fabulous Moolah 38. Randy Savage 39. Brock Lesnar 40. Rick Rude 41. Iron Shiek 42. Ernie Ladd 43. Pedro Morales 44. Ken Patera 45. Gorilla Monsoon 46. Ric Flair 47. Kane 48. Junkyard Dog 49. Paul Orndorf 50. Haystacks Calhoun Couple of things: I dont think the intention was to make Bret Hart #1, I think its just a list of the top 50, but in particular order. I mean how the heck would the Warrior or Honkytonk Man crack the top 5???? As for people on the list, I think the only really wierd ones are JYD and Kane, in my opinion neither of those guys belong on the lsit, but whatever. Brock I would have put on the list because he was the youngest WWE champion, and he's caught on to the business faster than very few people in the history of the business. Mr Perfect should have made the list and probably the British Bulldog, but there will always be omissions in a list like this. I'm suprised Nash didn't get on, not from a skill standpoint but from a "I kiss Hunter's ass" standpoint. |
12-23-2003, 05:19 PM | #21 | |
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12-23-2003, 06:11 PM | #22 |
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Btw, that's a horrible pic of Warrior, he looks like an ugly 60 year old with paint on his face
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12-23-2003, 06:14 PM | #23 | |
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12-23-2003, 06:48 PM | #24 |
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wheres bastion booger when you need him?
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12-23-2003, 10:01 PM | #25 |
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Why is Shawn Michaels so far down??.He should of made the top 10 easy but they have him at #34
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12-23-2003, 10:56 PM | #26 |
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OMG WHERE'S NASH?!!
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12-23-2003, 10:57 PM | #27 |
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jk, but Owen Hart should be on there.
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12-23-2003, 11:16 PM | #28 |
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Whomever wrote this was an idiot. There are so many people on there that shouldn't be, and so many that should be on there that aren't. British Bulldog, Dynamite Kid, Owen Hart, Chris Benoit are just a few.
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12-23-2003, 11:40 PM | #29 | |
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12-24-2003, 12:32 AM | #30 |
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1. Bret Hart - No question about it....
2. Hulk Hogan - Duh,he was the WWF.... 3. Andre the Giant - Obviously.... 4. Honky Tonk Man - This guy has NO business on here.... 5. Ultimate Warrior - Made the WWF a good amount of $$.... 6. Killer Kowolski - Definitely was a team player for WWF.... 7. Bob Backlund - Nutjob,but he helped WWF alot.... 8. Sgt Slaughter - I think they did it because he's got the in.... 9. Roddy Piper - One of the greatest heels ever.... 10. Don Muraco 11. Kurt Angle 12. Jay Strongbow - Great worker.... 13. Chris Jericho - Most underrated in recent history 14. Bobo Brazil - Was a good worker,but there were better.... 15. Bruno Sammartino - He (along with Hulk) built it.... 16. Mick Foley Did more than what anyone thought he could... 17. Ivan Putski 18. Jimmy Snuka 19. Scott Hall - OK,a great IC champ,but there were alot better 20. Antonio Rocca - Changed the style of wrestling.... 21. Jake Roberts - Very underrated; too bad he can't change 22. Pat Patterson 23. George Steele - Awesome guy,great worker 24. Billy Graham - Great personality... 25. HHH 26. Steve Austin - Carried WWE for the time he was needed... 27. Ted DiBiase - Should have been Champ; **** HTM 28. Wendi Richter - It asks: "why did you screw me over?" 29. Yokozuna - Definitely deserves his spot.... 30. King Kong Bundy - Not the best wrestler,but a legendary heel 31. Buddy Rogers - This guy is WAY overrated... 32. Undertaker - Worked like a dog for WWE; deserves it... 33. Jesse Ventura - In the top 5 greatest heels of all-time.... 34. HBK 35. Ricky Steamboat 36. The Rock 37. Fabulous Moolah 38. Randy Savage - Ooooh Yeaaah!! (he stole it,but it works) 39. Brock Lesnar - One of these things does not belong.... 40. Rick Rude - Awesome worker 41. Iron Shiek - Team player all the way through.... 42. Ernie Ladd - Paved the way for AA's in wrestling.... 43. Pedro Morales - Great great wrestler 44. Ken Patera 45. Gorilla Monsoon - Awesome guy; did so so much... 46. Ric Flair - Not any better... 47. Kane 48. Junkyard Dog - Could have been the top face; politics... 49. Paul Orndorff Awesome heel; great worker.... 50. Haystacks Calhoun Others that I think should have been on there: Curt Hennig; Owen Hart; British Bulldog; Kerry Von Erich & Greg Valentine (it's also sad looking at my choices for additions that 4 of 5 of them have passed on,and at young ages).... It's also great that Vince has messed over 1/2 the people on that list.He mentions them as people who are the 50 greatest in WWF ever,yet he has ****ed em' over Most notably,a TRUE legend in Bruno Sammartino,Women's Champion Wendi Richter,and George Steele. |
12-24-2003, 12:38 AM | #31 |
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Keep in mind a guy like Kerry Von Erich didn't really do all that much in the WWE. He had a pretty short run, and never really had any memorable matches (save maybe one against Perfect that comes to mind). So guys like him or even LOD who didn't make the list really didn't have a big impact on the WWE, which is what the list is about; the WWE.
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12-24-2003, 02:44 AM | #32 |
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the reason benoit is not on that list is because I believe it's the wwf/wwe's 50 greatest wrestler's and Benoit hasn't been in the wwe all that long.But again Lesner and angle haven't been in the wwe that long either.Angle still deserves to be there but I don't think Lesner does.
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12-24-2003, 05:40 AM | #33 | |
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And what happened to Richter and Steele? |
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12-24-2003, 06:06 AM | #34 | |
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"Spider Lady" back in the mid-80's at MSG..At that point,she was Women's Champion,but was working without a contract. Vince wanted her to sign a contract to assure that his title- holder would remain with him,and she refused to do so before this show (due to her being promised a certain amount of $$ and then according to the contract getting less). Vince got pissed and had Moolah wear the Spider-Lady mask and outfit,and she rolled up Wendi with an extremely fast 3 by the referee,becoming the new Women's Champion; and in the process,ending Richter's active wrestling career with all major promotions.Some say that this was an angle,but it has been said by various people "in the know" that it is definitely not. *** Sammartino - Sammartino worked hard for Vince for many years.He decided he wanted out of the business around the time that his son David decided that he wanted to get in. Vince told Bruno to come back and work with them,as he (Vince) "wanted to maintain the old-school ways",yet af- ter Bruno signed on,they went off in the completely new direction,and left Bruno working in a situation he did not want to be in. They then had Bruno come back and wrestle on several occasions to "get David over",but obviously it was just for the $$ that Bruno working got in,because after Bruno tagging with David on several occasions,etc.. David was put right back into dark matches,and was never pushed as was promised. He also messed Bruno out of some money,and when it came time for A&E to do their history of wrestling spe- cial,they needed WWF footage.Vince told them (A&E) that they could not show footage of Bruno,or even do an interview with him to air on the show (esentially th- ey couldn't mention him at all - which was the case),or he wouldn't give them the rights to use the footage & interview his wrestlers. He also tried to block Bruno from being inducted into the MSG Hall of Fame.Very spiteful and disrespectful to a guy who carried your company for many years... |
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12-24-2003, 07:31 AM | #36 |
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Indeed.
Bruno had 2 title reigns with WWWF/WWF; the first one for nearly 8 years,and then the second one (done again,as a favor for Vince) for 4 years (where it was only supposed to be a one year deal). |
12-24-2003, 10:38 AM | #37 | |
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Yeah and Von Erich wasn't with the WWF for that long and he only had a couple of decent matches. Although his I.C. feud with Perfect was my favorite I.C. feud of all-time. But I really don't understand why they didn't include OWEN or Perfect when guys like Ken Patera, JYD, and Kane are on there. Those two were some of the best workers the WWE has ever had. I consider Perfect to be the greatest I.C. champ of all-time. And Owen I consider to be very underated and could of easily been Heavyweight Champ. |
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12-24-2003, 02:46 PM | #38 |
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I'm just curious, guys, but who would you put on your Top 50 list? I'll have to do a little research first, but I think I'll post mine today.
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12-24-2003, 03:04 PM | #39 | |
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12-24-2003, 04:28 PM | #40 |
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Scott Hall and Kane make the list Chris Benoit doesn't weird.
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