Lance Storm is NOT a fan!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lance Storm sent the following in to Wrestling Observer:

Just listening to WOR and have to say this.

I think Ken Anderson has been so GOD AWFUL on promos it's a channel changer for me.

His promo last week with angle actually made me turn the show off after Angle's awesome promo, and this week he talked forever in his first promo and I could not have possibly cared less.

He is doing the flippant Too Cool for School goof ball character, which in my opinion is the worst possible character. He makes light of absolutely everything as if it doesn't matter than ultimately it ends up not mattering.

Last week after Kurt was so hot at him for spitting on the USA and Dead Soldiers, Anderson came out with this goofy who cares flippant personality. HOW does that draw money? He treated it like a joke and thus it became one.

This week his promo with Christy went on forever and I ended up not having a clue what he was talking about, but when you go back and look he actually talked about laying out Kurt, spitting on America and going after a title tonight (TWO MAJOR ISSUES) yet finished off flippantly talking about fighting gorillas to the point we forgot his issue with Kurt and his title match with Rob. Almost a textbook example of a BAD promo.

Then they bury the Kurt program even deeper by having Anderson cut another fucking promo while Kurt stands behind him for over a minute with a chair. If Kurt gave a flying fuck about Anderson laying him out or spitting on America why didn't he hit him right away rather than waiting for a minute for the comedy pop of watching Kurt stand behind him while Anderson was unaware.

This show was horrible and Anderson's character and promo work are ATROCIOUS. Yes he talks well but he buries the entire program with the way in which his talks and carries himself. He is my least favourite character on the show and that covers a lot of ground because this entire show SUCKS.

Also I can't believe no one pointed out that Anderson was KILLED by one chair shot (yes Bryan pointed this out) BUT Abyss was hit with 3 or 4 and was still on his feet later in the show. I could book a better show with a WEEGEE board.

Lance

[jerichoholicninja]

I want to like Anderson since we're from the same town but he doesn't always do it for me. He's got confidence when he cuts a promo but they just really don't go anywhere. He seems like he's trying to play a sort of Rock-esque cocky heel but it doesn't work.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I love how Lance Storm always decides to give TNA a chance...then gives up. Then gives it another chance...then gives up. Rinse, lather, repeat.

Plus it's usually accompanied by awesome rants.</font> :cool:

[Jeritron]

Big Vito, everyone knows you lather before you rinse. Get it right

[kareru]

if he could be serious for a minute

[Anybody Thrilla]

Too many people around here ride Lance Storm's dick. I'm not even saying that he's wrong about anything he's saying here (I didn't even watch it myself), but it's nothing amazing. He seems to bash the industry every time someone posts something about him here, but what's the last thing of note that he's done? What's anything of note that he did, really? He sort of comes off as a disgruntled has been at this point.

Just saying.

[FourFifty]

Lance Storm's rants are the third best thing to come out of TNA.

And it's a real tight third with Robert Roode and James Storm.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love Lance Storm, but I don't think he's entirely right about Anderson. I think being an obnoxious twat is the whole point of Anderson's character -- including making jokes about getting a DQ win over six gorillas. Pretty sure the dude could be banging Christy Hemme if he wanted, too.

[Wishbone]

truthfully I never cared for Lance myself and his bashing of Anderson just makes me not care more(I may be bias here and people may hate me for it but in the end I will always have to side with Anderson............ Anderson)

[Anybody Thrilla]

Can it, Dickbone. Nobody's going to hate you for liking Ken Anderson.

[The Pope]

People like Ken Anderson, its just his "injury prone" status that pisses people off.

[screech]

I usually like reading Lance's rants, but this one was pretty silly to me (partly because I disagree). He really could have just said that he doesn't like Anderson in TNA.

[screech]

Also I can't believe no one pointed out that Anderson was KILLED by one chair shot (yes Bryan pointed this out) BUT Abyss was hit with 3 or 4 and was still on his feet later in the show. I could book a better show with a WEEGEE board.

Is he serious with this? Abyss, normally booked as a monster (still his damn nickname), should take a handful of chair shots before falling. It's expected that both of these will happen.

Sure I'm just nit picking, but it bugged me.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You aren't nitpicking any more than Lance Storm was.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, I'm pretty sure it's spelled Ouija board.

[ron the dial]

WEEGEE

[Wishbone]

Can it, Dickbone. Nobody's going to hate you for liking Ken Anderson.

actually I meant more for not liking Lance Storm not the liking anderson part but anyway I digress
oh and I like the little insult name you came up with 'real original' you get a gold star:roll:

[ron the dial]

Wishboner

[The Show Off]

Lance Storm critiquing someone's promos is like Andy Dick trying to help someone kick their drug habit.

[Fignuts]

actually I meant more for not liking Lance Storm not the liking anderson part but anyway I digress
oh and I like the little insult name you came up with 'real original' you get a gold star:roll:

Nah, it's all good. We call eachother names and shit on here all the time, but it's not serious like it is on other gay ass forums.

Like for instance, just the other day, I had sexual intercourse with Weapon X's mother.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Too many people around here ride Lance Storm's dick. I'm not even saying that he's wrong about anything he's saying here (I didn't even watch it myself), but it's nothing amazing. He seems to bash the industry every time someone posts something about him here, but what's the last thing of note that he's done? What's anything of note that he did, really? He sort of comes off as a disgruntled has been at this point.

Just saying.
That's not really fair, because he was writing this same stuff on his website while he was in ECW and while he was successful.

[ron the dial]

at least it wasn't St. Jimmy having sex with my mother.

[ron the dial]

Lance Storm critiquing someone's promos is like Andy Dick trying to help someone kick their drug habit.
should all movie critics be expected to create citizen kane?

[Jeritron]

Not to mention he's just a guy who watches wrestling and likes to voice his opinion about it. I read his blogs from time to time and he says just as much positive stuff as he does negative.
He's retired and watches wrestling and posts what he thinks about it, and answers questions from fans.

What's any different about him giving his opinion on the product from any other fan doing it?
If his accomplishments in wrestling are a factor in how worthy his fan criticisms are, then what does that say about everyone on here?

What he's done in wrestling as far as promos are concerned, or "the last thing of note he's done" are all non-factors when it comes to how knowledgable he is as a viewer.

[Jeritron]

Lance Storm critiquing someone's promos is like Andy Dick trying to help someone kick their drug habit.

I think everyone in this thread should cut a promo and post the video on here so we can see it.

[ron the dial]

WHEN I GET YOU IN THE EYE OF THE HURRICANE I WILL TURN YOU INSIDE OUT AND SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE

[St. Jimmy]

at least it wasn't St. Jimmy having sex with my mother.

Wasn't it?

http://memegenerator.net/File/ImageMacro/268982.jpg

[Jeritron]

If you read the critique, he explains exactly what the issue is. He's not insulting Anderson's talking skills. He's criticizing content, not delivery.
This is obviously something he understands.

He doesn't have to be a great promo guy to have opinions anyways. But it's especially ridiculous to say he can't offer his opinion because of his own skills, since that's not what he's attacking at all.

[ron the dial]

no st. jimmy it was not. it was clearly fignuts. and your images are still fucking stupid but at least you added words this time.

[St. Jimmy]

no st. jimmy it was not. it was clearly fignuts. and your images are still fucking stupid but at least you added words this time.

http://www.blakeneymanor.com/images/carryon/shock.jpg

[Destor]

what's the last thing of note that he's done? What's anything of note that he did, really?this to me is insane. to say something like this you need to either a) have no clue what lance storm did b) beleive that if vince didnt say it it wasnt worth remembering it as awesome c) have a very limited and confused perspective on the industry or d) take bdc way too seriously.

[Fignuts]

Wasn't it?

http://memegenerator.net/File/ImageMacro/268982.jpg

Actually I kinda do, out of curiosity.

[Fignuts]

Not to mention he's just a guy who watches wrestling and likes to voice his opinion about it. I read his blogs from time to time and he says just as much positive stuff as he does negative.
He's retired and watches wrestling and posts what he thinks about it, and answers questions from fans.

What's any different about him giving his opinion on the product from any other fan doing it?
If his accomplishments in wrestling are a factor in how worthy his fan criticisms are, then what does that say about everyone on here?

What he's done in wrestling as far as promos are concerned, or "the last thing of note he's done" are all non-factors when it comes to how knowledgable he is as a viewer.


This.

[Jeritron]

I'm curious to see how much of Lance Storms mic work people have actually seen too. It's not bad just because it's not funny and full of catch phrases.

What he did on the stick in ECW, and even WCW was much different than what he did in WWE, which was very limited.
No, he's not Flair or Foley. But that doesn't make him incompetent.

Even in WWE his whole "If I can be serious for a moment... Splendid" thing worked, and he obviously knew what he was doing with it.
Just because they sent Stone Cold out there to chant boring at him, doesn't mean it has to be true.

[Destor]

jeritron has won the internet

[Destor]

the prize is unlimited porn

[Jeritron]

Plus he did incredible things of note all the time in the ring. Last thing he did of note...probably his last match. And the one before that, and the one before that.

For those who only watch WWE and aren't familiar with his part-time work since retiring, his last mainstream WWE match was at ONS against Chris Jericho.
Fucking love that match. I'd say it's of note.

Lance Storm is the man.

[ron the dial]

lance storm vs. bryan danielson was a pretty solid match. think it was in 2006.

[Jeritron]

Going to watch this awesome opener between the Thrillseekers right now. I encourage people to join me


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[Jeritron]

LIONHEARTTTT CHRIS JERICHO

[Jeritron]

cradle piledriver in the house

[theexample]

Lance writes a pretty good column in Fighting Spirit Magazine here in the UK.

[Jeritron]

omg drop toe hold rolled into a half crab

[Destor]

his wcw run was crazzzzzzzy good too. sucks the crowd didnt get the "boring" gimmick though. that was the worst thing to happen to mat wrestling...well ever tbh. instead of the crowd taking it as his promos were boring (which was the gimmick) they just started chanting boring at chain...and wwe trolls have stuck to that tradition for some time. WORST. THING. EVER.

...thank you jerry lawler, if the guy would actually attended production meetings he would have to put that over. instead he slammed the boring bit during the work...*sigh* and now bdc`s of the world exist...

[Jeritron]

great finish. great match. way to go Thrillseekers!

[Jeritron]

Lance Storm had so many great opener PPVs for the WWE. He was a master of the art of wrestling a great opener and getting the crowd hot. I'm a huge mark for solid openers that are all about hot wrestling and no bells and whistles.

[Jeritron]

Lance Storms WCW run was so awesome

[Destor]

i wouldn`t tout lance as "a great opener." yeah he had tons of great opners but lance knew his role on the card and played it well. lance wasnt a mark forhimself never tried to put himself over when it was about the show and not him. lance was "a good hand." which used to be a major position on any bookers roster. the guy you will always get exactly what you need from. if you a great match to put this green kid over, go to lance, solid 7 min opner? go to lnace. credible ic champ? go to lance.

...sort of thing used to matter...now it`s t-shirts sales...and its the MARKS thats are talkin about it...ugh...the world has gone backward.

[Jeritron]

Destor wants to roll the BDCs of the world up into a half crab. The Calgary Crab

[Skippord]

The Straight Shooter

[Mr. Nerfect]

For the record, I love Lance Storm. The dude is entertaining and was a great wrestler; I just disagree with him on Anderson.

[Destor]

Destor wants to roll the BDCs of the world up into a half crab. The Calgary Crab

lol and how

[Anybody Thrilla]

That's not really fair, because he was writing this same stuff on his website while he was in ECW and while he was successful.

I said 'at this point'.

[Londoner]

Haven't seen the latest promo he's on about and don't think i want to, but i agree with him 100% on his feelings about 'Anderson'.

[RVDmark]

Also, I'm pretty sure it's spelled Ouija board.

Is it wrong that this annoyed me more than anything Lance actually said?

[DAMN iNATOR]

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[redoneja]

Ken Anderson is terrible. Doesn't really matter if it's said by Lance Storm, Ric Flair, or Barry Horowitz. I'd rather watch a Great Khali/Hornswoggle segment than a Ken Anderson segment.

[The Show Off]

should all movie critics be expected to create citizen kane?

Of course not. People can be critics all the want. You can be a critic as long as you have something critical to say, as evidence by this wonderful board. It's just I don't have to lend creedence to said critisism. This is especially true when the person critiquing person wasn't very good at what he critiquing. And certianly wasn't as good as Mr. Anderson.

[The Show Off]

I think everyone in this thread should cut a promo and post the video on here so we can see it.

That's a stupid statement. You don't have to lend creedence to my opinion, if you think I;m wrong, then you think I'm wrong nothing I can do about that.

Cutting a promo isn't very hard, I've done stand up comedy and I write, I think I would do pretty good cutting a promo, but that's not the issue. Who cares if I can or can't cut a promo in my opinion Mr. Anderson can cut a promo, and Lance Storm can't cut one as good.

[The Show Off]

I'm curious to see how much of Lance Storms mic work people have actually seen too. It's not bad just because it's not funny and full of catch phrases.

What he did on the stick in ECW, and even WCW was much different than what he did in WWE, which was very limited.
No, he's not Flair or Foley. But that doesn't make him incompetent.

Even in WWE his whole "If I can be serious for a moment... Splendid" thing worked, and he obviously knew what he was doing with it.
Just because they sent Stone Cold out there to chant boring at him, doesn't mean it has to be true.

I've watched much of Lance Storms career, ECW, WCW (mainly), WWE, and even a couple of matches in ROH. Lance Storm is a great wrestler, between the ropes he was great. When he got on the mic... not so much. He was on the level of Chris Benoit or Dean Malenko, which is to say sure he was passable, he got his message across, but he wasn't good.

Mr. Anderson's promos are very good, he comes across and an annoying arrogan prick, and that's actually how you feel when he talks. His promos are heat machines.

[Destor]

I dont see how Lance's ,ic comes into play here tbh, but I agree Kennedy is the better talker.

[AngryMidjit]

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I'm so glad i took a break from watching wrestling at this point. This would have made me too angry to ever come back

[jskinnyg]

Well, I kinda have to agree with Mr Storm... Especially since he was such a MASTER on the Mic skills and selling a promo himself... I think Lance is just jealous that Anderson might be on the way to beating his record of us changing the channel faster than we did with his promos...

If I can just be serious for a ZZZZzzzzz... But he did kick ass in the ring..
BTW GO USA HOCKEY!!!

[jskinnyg]

Ken Anderson is terrible. Doesn't really matter if it's said by Lance Storm, Ric Flair, or Barry Horowitz. I'd rather watch a Great Khali/Hornswoggle segment than a Ken Anderson segment.

Oooohhh... But Anderson Did give the Green Bay Plunge to Hornswoggle in the MITB match off the ladder... That's ALWAYS points in my F'in book!

[screech]

For the record, I love Lance Storm. The dude is entertaining and was a great wrestler; I just disagree with him on Anderson.

[Stickman]

I 100% agree with Lance Storm and that's not "riding his dick."

[Swiss Ultimate]

Lance Storm's opinion matters to me.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Too many people around here ride Lance Storm's dick. I'm not even saying that he's wrong about anything he's saying here (I didn't even watch it myself), but it's nothing amazing. He seems to bash the industry every time someone posts something about him here, but what's the last thing of note that he's done? What's anything of note that he did, really? He sort of comes off as a disgruntled has been at this point.

Just saying.

Nah lance is a nice guy. He did really well for himself considering he was a smaller guy who never touched steroids. He's a fan of the business and he doesn't like seeing how shitty it is. And he did stuff of note, he was part of that hot team canada angle in WCW til he was buried, and he got buried in the WWE. He drew great heel heat and was a definite staple for great matches in ECW.

Was he ever a big time superstar? No. But was he experienced guy, with great skills and and an understanding for waht works and what doesn't, hell yes.

[Jeritron]

Who cares if I can or can't cut a promo in my opinion Mr. Anderson can cut a promo, and Lance Storm can't cut one as good.

This is exactly what I'm saying. If whether or not you can cut a promo or not has no bearing on how valid your opinion is, then why does it have any bearing on how valid Lance Storm's opinion is?

I agree 100%. It doesn't matter if you can or not. It also doesn't matter if Lance Storm can or not, because regardless of his skills on the mic he can still recognize what's good or bad as a viewer, and former worker in the industry. That's why I took exception to the comment

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't actively follow Lance's blog, but it seems that whenever anybody post anything from those blogs here, he's bitching about something.

[Jeritron]

True. Isn't that what the internet is for though? I'm just saying, I don't think he should be held to a higher standard of behavior than us just because he used to wrestle.
He's a red blooded guy with a computer, free time, and interest in wrestling.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Would he be saying all this stuff if he was still employed somewhere though? I mean, I'm not going to pretend like I know much of anything about Lance Storm, but from what I see through this site alone (which obviously doesn't encompass very much of anything), he seems bitter.

[Jeritron]

He wouldn't be blogging that stuff if he was still employed somewhere because that would be unprofessional, and he wouldn't have the time.

You can assume shit without knowing anything about the guy. Or you can know the facts:
He still can, and does get work if he wants to. ROH will have him at any time, and has.
He still could work for the WWE. He had a job as a trainer or road agent, and he stopped working because he wanted to be at home with his wife and kids.
He was responsible with his money and is in a position to be retired at 40.

There's no reason for him to be bitter. I think you're assuming that he was fired from WWE, and can't get a job when both things aren't true at all.

[Destor]

lance storm has always been notroious in locker rooms for having a sharp toungue. sayin exactly what he thought of an angle or worker for directly or very blunty. the only difference between then and now is he`s telling the interwebs and the boys in the back.

[Destor]

and for the record out of everyon{ i`ve seen in the buisness lance storm is the most content with what he did out of everyone i`ve seen.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Well good for him. I'm glad I've learned so much about Lance Storm from this thread.

[Jeritron]

yea I agree Destor

[The Show Off]

This is exactly what I'm saying. If whether or not you can cut a promo or not has no bearing on how valid your opinion is, then why does it have any bearing on how valid Lance Storm's opinion is?

I agree 100%. It doesn't matter if you can or not. It also doesn't matter if Lance Storm can or not, because regardless of his skills on the mic he can still recognize what's good or bad as a viewer, and former worker in the industry. That's why I took exception to the comment

It was just a joke comment, it wasn't meant to be serious in any way.

[Londoner]

Well good for him. I'm glad I've learned so much about Lance Storm from this thread.

Indeed.

[Fignuts]

Would he be saying all this stuff if he was still employed somewhere though? I mean, I'm not going to pretend like I know much of anything about Lance Storm, but from what I see through this site alone (which obviously doesn't encompass very much of anything), he seems bitter.


Yeah, I read his blog quite a bit, and it's not all negative at all. People on this site just like to post the negative stuff, because it's just more interesting.

[James Steele]

“I will give you a show that you have never ever seen before…why?…Because I can.”

[Kane Knight]

I'm not sure Anderson sucks, but his promos in TNA have been torture. It probably doesn't hurt that I dislike the character at this point, and think it's hella bad.

In other news, Lance Storm is the man because he's telling me what I want to hear. :shifty:

[McLegend]

I think Anderson is pretty bad now. Injuries killed him... He lost it.