View Full Version : MNW Round 1 ratings are in...
FearedSanctity
03-09-2010, 06:14 PM
RAW - 3.4
Impact! - 1.0
http://pwinsider.com/article/45767/monday-night-ratings.html?p=1
ImpactPlayer365
03-09-2010, 06:15 PM
Not a surprise at all. Unless TNA promoted Velvet Sky and Lacey Von Erich lesbian shower scene
Not going to say it's a bad number for TNA, but it's not good. They lost viewers on this, and it was built as a huge thing. Ratings are going to only go down without "OMG TUNE IN FOR THIS SURPRISE".
And next week they're going to be demolished by Austin and the fact that the way it's being promoted, it's set up to be the Mania go-home show despite there being one more week. I'm saying no more than a .8 for TNA next week.
The question now is does Spike wait until April to see how ratings go or do they drop them back to Thursdays if they continue to bomb? Because they have three important weeks coming up against WWE (Austin, Mania go-home, night after Mania). That's enough for Spike to say "you're not getting the job done".
It's been said before by many, but it's fucking stupid for them to start just before Mania.
Also, it's technically a .93 for TNA rounded up, so they didn't even break 1.
ImpactPlayer365
03-09-2010, 06:29 PM
Fucking stupid is correct sir. Why they are so full of themselves to think that they can go head to head with them in their peak time of the year is extremely nieve. Business wise Spike dropped the ball also, why would you allow them to? Just look at the product.
Nicky Fives
03-09-2010, 06:30 PM
not surprised at all....
KayfabeMan
03-09-2010, 06:37 PM
Numbers aren't everything - BUT next week's TNA show looks weak. It will certainly do worse than yesterdays.
ClockShot
03-09-2010, 06:40 PM
Impact may get an teeny tiny increase next week in rating.
Pretty much a given we're getting "Diet" Stone Cold Steve Austin as a host next week. No beers or birds are gonna be flying so the older audience might get bummed out. Kids will go crazy regardless.
Still, I'll tune in next week.
HBPunk
03-09-2010, 06:41 PM
Overall its 4.4 so thats up from last weeks raw and raw's rating was down from recent weeks so thats not all bad
I'm surprised they didn't atleast match 1.2, it'll be interesting to see how they react.
The Franchise
03-09-2010, 06:44 PM
No birds probably but why no beer bash? Beer drinking is fine for "PG"
Not surprised at all by this. TNA picked the worst time and this is not even a Monday Night War. It's so uneven it's not even funny. WWE is about to have an event with 65,000 people in the audience and TNA has like what, 800 in the iMPACT Zone? It's like david vs Goliath on roids.
The only reason the rating surprises me is that they got a 1.5 on the January 4th edition of Impact, what was done differently then to gain viewers? More buildup? More hype?
PullMyFinger
03-09-2010, 06:50 PM
It's going to take time end of story. I wouldn't panic unless TNA stays consistant at .7 for weeks. but Monday from 8-10 was the smarter idea, idk who decided 9-11. Whatever though.
Things won't change overnight.
The Franchise
03-09-2010, 06:50 PM
Hmm I guess better build? Also Hogan debuting probably helped
PullMyFinger
03-09-2010, 06:50 PM
The only reason the rating surprises me is that they got a 1.5 on the January 4th edition of Impact, what was done differently then to gain viewers? More buildup? More hype?
More build up, more hype, and that first hour gave them a huge major boost. They netted like a 1.8 during that hour.
Oh yeah, I forgot they had a three hour show that night.
The only reason the rating surprises me is that they got a 1.5 on the January 4th edition of Impact, what was done differently then to gain viewers? More buildup? More hype?
Those are factors but the huge ones were a huge name being brought in to lure old fans (Hogan) and the extra hour lead-in.
FourFifty
03-09-2010, 06:53 PM
Numbers aren't everything - BUT next week's TNA show looks weak. It will certainly do worse than yesterdays.
To the hardcore fans and to the casual fans that is correct. Numbers aren't everything.... However you try to sell ad time on cable show with low ratings. I'm fairly sure in a few weeks TNA's numbers will cause them to promote one of their PPVs sponsored by the Wunder Boner.
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Innovator
03-09-2010, 06:57 PM
HA
I can just imagine Don West pushing it.
"DON WEST HERE! AND I WANT YOU TO BUY MY WUNDER BONER!"
PullMyFinger
03-09-2010, 07:01 PM
I think the rating is pretty weak. But people just need to relax. WWE's rating was down too. Give it time, I'm confident in a few weeks TNA's monday rating standard will go back to 1.3, and then it's up to them to increase it.
The only problem like I said was starting this right before Wrestlemania, doing live every other week as opposed to every week, and not going from 8-10. Their rating would have easily been a 1.5 if they started at 8.
jskinnyg
03-09-2010, 07:02 PM
Impact may get an teeny tiny increase next week in rating.
Pretty much a given we're getting "Diet" Stone Cold Steve Austin as a host next week. No beers or birds are gonna be flying so the older audience might get bummed out. Kids will go crazy regardless.
Still, I'll tune in next week.
Man , I hope the PG BS doesn't limit the beer bashing, that would be F' in stupid... Maybe he'll bash some pespsi together and join up with Punk... Doesn't need to shave... Kidding of course...
jskinnyg
03-09-2010, 07:03 PM
I think the rating is pretty weak. But people just need to relax. WWE's rating was down too. Give it time, I'm confident in a few weeks TNA's monday rating standard will go back to 1.3, and then it's up to them to increase it.
The only problem like I said was starting this right before Wrestlemania, doing live every other week as opposed to every week, and not going from 8-10. Their rating would have easily been a 1.5 if they started at 8.
And I would agree with that... Start at 8 kids... Give the egos a rest...
roach21
03-09-2010, 07:10 PM
While I agree that going against WWE during the weeks building up to the biggest wrestling PPV of the year is incredibly stupid, in TNA's defense they had to capitalize off of the initial excitement and buzz that the first Monday night provided so they were kind of damned if they do damned if they don't. Starting at 8 is also a goo idea.
The Pope
03-09-2010, 07:11 PM
I love Xero's avatar
Here are the quarterhours for Impact :
0.99, 0.98, 1.00, 1.07, 1.07, 1.03, 0.95, and 0.76
It appears most people switched over for Cena vs Mcmahon near the end, that probably brought the overall rating down a bit.
Innovator
03-09-2010, 07:48 PM
So the ratings went down when two fat old guys were bleeding all over each other? you don't say
The Pope
03-09-2010, 07:50 PM
Why does Vince always think he equals ratings?
HBPunk
03-09-2010, 07:52 PM
Why does Vince always think he equals ratings?
cos he does
I wonder if people will still call this the "monday night wars" after this.
FourFifty
03-09-2010, 08:27 PM
Why does Vince always think he equals ratings?
Once again the space time continuum has been ripped apart by fate, for this question has already been answered.
However you try to sell ad time on cable show with low ratings. I'm fairly sure in a few weeks TNA's numbers will cause them to promote one of their PPVs sponsored by the Wunder Boner.
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The Pope
03-09-2010, 08:31 PM
Once again the space time continuum has been ripped apart by fate, for this question has already been answered.
The ratings stayed the same, they didn't go up with him "wrestling" on RAW.
Emperor Smeat
03-09-2010, 08:33 PM
Shouldn't this technically be Round 2 since they already faced off a few weeks ago?
At least TNA was able to keep the rating at 1.0 but Spike should really move them back to 8-10pm for a few months to help build up a Monday audience and improve the show (promos/booking/wrestling).
TNA won't get any better in ratings so they should use the next 3 weeks to build up for the post-Wrestlemania weeks where WWE begins to drop in show quality.
The ratings stayed the same, they didn't go up with him "wrestling" on RAW.
Actually you don't know that, at least for that segment. No RAW quarter hours are up.
Dr. Perfect knows everything though.
RGWhat316
03-09-2010, 08:45 PM
Wow, Flair and Hogan's return to wrestling only get them that? I'm really not that surprised, but I still do think TNA would be better off going from 8-10.
From PWInsider:
On his twitter page, Ted Linhart, the Vice President of the USA Network of Program Research commented on Monday's ratings, commenting "Not much of a Monday Night "War". RAW trounced TNA by 275% w/ total viewers. Also Impact much lower than the test Monday ep in early Jan."
For what it is worth, SpikeTV sources indicate they are fine with TNA's rating, in that the demographics for 18-34 were well and the series brought its Thursday audience over to Monday. It was seen as the first step in a larger goal for the Impact show.
So the ratings went down when two fat old guys were bleeding all over each other? you don't say
Well, hopefully if they work on a better main event from now on, they can average out with a better rating. The quarterhour ratings didn't look too bad, just not much of a main event to look forward too.
So the ratings went down when two fat old guys were bleeding all over each other? you don't say
lol
To be fair, I didn't expect much more out of Cena vs Mcmahon either, Vince isn't exactly a great performer himself either.
Well, hopefully if they work on a better main event from now on, they can average out with a better rating. The quarterhour ratings didn't look too bad, just not much of a main event to look forward too.
This is the main event they were showcasing as their biggest thing.
That's a problem in and of itself.
KayfabeMan
03-09-2010, 08:56 PM
Oy.
I just thought, when Vince dies - we're gonna be stuck with Stephanie's saggy, wrinkly face on TV week after week doing the imitation Vince schtick.
I don't think anyone was expecting John Cena and Vince to have a classic encounter. What they were expecting was WrestleMania build-up and that's exactly what it was.
This is the main event they were showcasing as their biggest thing.
That's a problem in and of itself.
That's their problem, they have better main events than that, especially now with RVD and Jeff Hardy, they just need to advertise and utillize these wrestlers and they will gain viewers over time.
The potential has always been there for TNA. It's the execution that needs tons of work.
That's their problem, they have better main events than that, especially now with RVD and Jeff Hardy, they just need to advertise and utillize these wrestlers and they will gain viewers over time.
But it's clear that Bischoff and Hogan are the center of attention. And will be until they're gone. And without Bischoff and Hogan, who knows, maybe Spike will cry foul and push them back to Thursday for lack of names.
But it's clear that Bischoff and Hogan are the center of attention. And will be until they're gone. And without Bischoff and Hogan, who knows, maybe Spike will cry foul and push them back to Thursday for lack of names.
I dunno, I feel that way about Hogan, but I personally like Bischoff and think TNA can benefit from his experience.
I do agree, though, Hogan and other wrestlers that are over the hill (Flair) really need to take a backseat or get off screen completely.
I dunno, I feel that way about Hogan, but I personally like Bischoff and think TNA can benefit from his experience.
His experience in letting people like Hogan run the show?
Bischoff is fine in a strictly business and production sense, but letting him have any reign over the company storyline wise is a bad idea. I have no doubt that Bischoff is pulling most strings and is at least on par with Hogan, which is bad.
Hogan being in power should never have happened, though.
Hogan needs to get out, I agree, last night has proven that he's not really drawing any new viewers in, if anything he's pushing them away. But I think TNA can benefit from the input of someone who was involved with a company that was once dominating WWE, having Bischoff involved with the company in some form can only help them, even if it's just business and production like you said.
FourFifty
03-09-2010, 10:29 PM
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FourFifty
03-09-2010, 10:33 PM
Seriously. At this state calling TNA vs WWE a "Monday Night War" is like putting uninspired gas station coffee toe to toe with a Starbucks.
HBPunk put $50 on TNA doing a 2.x. Pay up, champ.
Of course, he never says anything sensible anyway.
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