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Rammsteinmad

03-12-2010, 01:37 PM

With Charlie Haas now gone from WWE, he's said in interviews (on the front page) that he will end up somewhere, IE TNA or ROH.

Seeing as I'm a huge fan of Charlie Haas, and since WWE can seriously use the kick in the ass, I'd freakin' love it if Charlie Haas turns out to be TNA's version of Steve Austin '96.

Whether you liked Austin or not, I don't think anyone back in '95/'96 had any idea how truly big he'd become. Imagine Charlie Haas, leaving WWE no different than Austin did WCW, and going to TNA, somehow finding his niche and becoming a megastar like Austin, and therefore properly putting TNA on the map.

It'd be pretty cool coz it seems unlikely, and I like Haas.

PS. This isn't a 'WWE sucks' or a 'How can TNA beat WWE' thread, this is simply me supporting Charlie Haas in his future endevours. :wave:

Inadequacy

03-12-2010, 01:48 PM

That would be hilarious and I would love it

CSL

03-12-2010, 01:53 PM

It could be entertaining but even as far back as 1991/92, it was clear Austin was destined for big things, he was pretty much great from day one (although obviously like you say, nobody could have predicted how big those things would be) Charlie Haas has never really shown anything other than being a solid hand in the ring.

CSL

03-12-2010, 01:54 PM

That said, he did alright/showed a bit of personality when ripping off other guys. Stranger things have happened.

Anybody Thrilla

03-12-2010, 02:03 PM

Sorry, TNA already has a Stone Cold.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/26/10061-sharkboy_large.jpg

Swiss Ultimate

03-12-2010, 02:23 PM

I think that Charlies Haas could put on some amazing matches in ROH...

To parallel the Austin transformation we'd need to see him experiment with a new character while in ROH while working on a contract with TNA.

Inadequacy

03-12-2010, 02:23 PM

I'm still confident Shark Boy will usher in the modern era of professional wrestling

Swiss Ultimate

03-12-2010, 02:28 PM

How confident?

03-12-2010, 03:01 PM

After what all he has been through, I still have faith in Charlie.

wwe2222

03-12-2010, 03:09 PM

They should call him Charlie Payne and his finishing move could be the House of Payne.

oh yeah

jskinnyg

03-12-2010, 03:25 PM

Fuck yeah the Haas of Pain was an INCREDIBLE move... And this would be cool if Rammsteinmad was right...

Fignuts

03-12-2010, 03:35 PM

I would like to see charlie haas in ROH.

Mr. Nerfect

03-13-2010, 01:37 AM

Charlie Haas has got all the ability in the world to be a credible threat in whatever promotion he works for. People seem to think that the only thing holding Charlie Haas back is charisma. I think Haas has plenty. Charisma does not need to be loud. And Haas isn't even bad on the mic. Every time I have heard him speak, he sounds confident enough. It's just not the "thing" he is known for. When he does speak, the crowd actually seems to get pretty into him.

TNA could bring him in as "Kurt Angle's friend," and Haas could work some matches with Angle against some heel tag teams. Mr. Anderson & Desmond Wolfe? Eventually, a match between Kurt Angle and Charlie Haas could become a modern classic. Meanwhile, Eric Bischoff can be telling Charlie that a guy with his personality isn't going to draw a drime, and Haas can just tell him stuff like "I AM wrestling." Have him start doing the Haas of Pain and Total Haastility (his version of an Angle Slam), and I think he could get pretty over.

Wishbone

03-13-2010, 01:38 AM

Mr. Nerfect

03-13-2010, 01:39 AM

Something that works in Haas' favour (in my opinion). He is so damn likeable. He's a hard worker who has kept his mouth shut for years doing what he is told. He's got a wife who was both a Diva and a Knockout, has got one or two kids, runs multiple businesses, has his shit together, but has lost his brother and many great friends. The dude just has this natural sympathy about him that makes you want him to succeed while he is getting a push, in my opinion.

thecc

03-13-2010, 03:34 AM

I'd like to see Haas in Evolve. He'll probably end up back in JAPW and no one will care.

Swiss Ultimate

03-13-2010, 07:45 AM

it'd be a very interesting thing to see Haas become the next steve austing (thow deep inside I know it won't happen) none the less I think he'll make a great addition to either roster althow at the moment TNA is a bit flooded so mabe he should wait on that

It might not happen, though the guy's a good worker and seems to have his head on straight. I doubt it's lack of motivation that kept him from getting bigger although, it might be that the writers just couldn't think of anything for him to do.

My issue with the wwe's storyline system is that they constantly have a good portion of their roster with nothing to do at all. I'm not saying cut more wrestling time and add more promos, I'm just saying they need to better utilize their talent and their time. An aside comment from Cole about how a character not on-screen is doing such and such could make a real difference in someone's career.

The WWE also over-utilizes their top-guys. Instead of having them in matches every week, they should just build-up their matches at PPVs while giving lower-card guys more chance to improve in the ring and get the fans to like them.

Haas (http://www.haasofpain.com/) seems like a stand-up guy. If I was a writer for the WWE I'd of had stuff for him to do.

Gertner

03-13-2010, 11:13 AM

Haas has been pretty much jobbed out to be a threat anywhere. If TNA tries to bring him in and make him a top guy then they are dumber than I thought.

roach21

03-13-2010, 11:56 AM

He could get a decent rub if TNA allies him with angle in the beginning and plays out their history in WWE. Maybe eventually have Haas try to overtake the teacher and set up a great match between the two.

Swiss Ultimate

03-13-2010, 12:34 PM

Haas would really need to be built up or given a gimmick change for it to work. It wouldn't be the first time someone who got jobbed out a bunch in one company got a tremendous push in another. Jericho's WWE push was tremendous compared to his time in WCW (though admittedly I might have enjoyed him in WCW more). Austin's push in WWE. Jarrett's pushes in WCW. There's a good deal of guys who've had amazing kayfabe changes in luck.

Rammsteinmad

03-13-2010, 02:03 PM

Personally, being jobbed out in a company doesn't take away any of the potential to be a threat. Mainly because wrestling is scripted to begin with.

If Charlie Haas was in MMA and kept losing, obviously you wouldn't consider himself a threat, but in this case we know the only reason he's been losing is because of writers pulling his strings.

With the right gimmick, build, time and care, anyone in the world of pro wrestling can become a superstar.

Swiss Ultimate

03-13-2010, 02:21 PM

Unless they're a dentist.

Gertner

03-13-2010, 02:38 PM

I could see him as a tag champ in TNA,that's about it. You bring up Jericho, Austin in WCW. Jericho was a multi time cruiserweight and tv champ, Austin a former TV champ, Jarrett a multi time IC champ. Haas has never even been close to being a success in singles action, and you know TNA fans would piss all over Haas having singles success except maybe the smarks. He's been nothing but a jobber as a singles wrestler.

Mr. Nerfect

03-13-2010, 04:40 PM

Swiss Ultimate

03-13-2010, 04:48 PM

It's going to be funny when he eventually goes to TNA and completely forgotten amidst the sea of "talent".

Gertner

03-13-2010, 05:04 PM

Jericho going from Cruiserweight Champ and Television Champ to rival of The Rock is still a pretty big leap, though. They could just put Haas over for his amateur credentials alone and he'd be credible.

Dan Severn and Brad Rheigians were outstanding amateur wrestlers whose accolades were well known. Being good in amateur means squat in pro wrestling. Who was the last star to come out with a great amateur background? Lesnar?

Heyman

03-13-2010, 05:06 PM

Gertner

03-13-2010, 05:07 PM

My point was, Jericho and Austin had accomplished things as a singles wrestler when they made the leap. Haas has been around for about 7 years and hasn't come close to any singles title. The closet was when he returned and fought Benjamin for the IC title and that ended quick. They've tried to get Haas over as a singles wrestler and it has failed miserably besides a run as a comedy guy where he had no chance of getting a singles title.

FourFifty

03-13-2010, 06:58 PM

Hassamania in ROH [/thread]

The Pope

03-14-2010, 11:48 AM

I'd like to see him end up in TNA someday, he is a really good wrestler.

Rammsteinmad

03-14-2010, 05:45 PM

A Haas/Angle rivalry would be awesome. Similar to the one Angle had with Benoit in 2003 based on the whole 'the name of the game is wrestling' thing.

Fignuts

03-14-2010, 06:56 PM

When it comes to guys like haas and benjamin, I don't really need to see them hold the title. I just want to see them in a good 20+ minute match, with no restrictions on what they can do in the ring.

Nark Order

03-14-2010, 09:09 PM

Never understood why Charlie Haas became such an "internet sensation" like he did. He isn't very charismatic and doesn't stand out to me in any way really.

Damian Rey

03-14-2010, 09:26 PM

Never understood why Charlie Haas became such an "internet sensation" like he did. He isn't very charismatic and doesn't stand out to me in any way really.

I think Fignuts' reasoning for lkking Haas may be the consensus for his popularity here. I personally don't think he will ever be anything more than a mid card wrestler at best. But I appreciate his in ring abilites and would like to have seen him utilized in a better role. Good ring workers like Haas have a proper place in the business.

Mr. Nerfect

03-14-2010, 10:39 PM

I still wouldn't blame Haas' lack of success on himself and more on the climate. While Paul Heyman was booking, for example, Haas looked like a fucking machine paired up with Shelton Benjamin. But when other guys got put in charge, they had no clue what to do with Haas, and it almost seemed like they were afraid because Vince personally didn't like the guy. It's not like the dude got put in a position to really succeed and failed.

Charlie Haas, to me, is the executive producer of a critically acclaimed show which got picked up by a mainstream network like NBC. Because of the timeslot he was put in, he never got the ratings to make the network execs happy, but everyone knew that it was such a good show that they kept it around for eight years, despite a hiatus somewhere there. Now the show is cancelled, the executive producer is pissed off, and it's time for him to shop around to HBO.

I'm not saying that a World Heavyweight Championship is neccessarily in the future for Haas, but I don't see why he can't get a few Emmy nods here and there -- and hell, maybe even win a few.

Rammsteinmad

03-15-2010, 07:21 AM

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o54/Prog_Metal_Head/CharlieHaas-1.png

You know it makes sense.

Rammsteinmad

03-15-2010, 07:36 AM

Swiss Ultimate

03-15-2010, 01:20 PM

I stole this from another forum I found via google.

Monday Night Mayhem radio with Charlie Haas
Hosts: Big Mosh, Blade, Todd Vincent
Available at MondayNightMayhem.com.

Interview highlights courtesy of The Mayhem's official correspondent, Paterson From New Jersey:

How much of his second stint with World Wrestling Entertainment was a "life experience" after the first time being there: "It was definitely a life experience. It was just an ongoing nightmare for me. They promise they're gonna do this with you, and they don't do it. They tell me they are gonna bring me in to feud with Shelton (Benjamin), and they don't do it. As out lives went on we had our first child & then our second child, you wanna quit, but you have to support your family. Then you'll like 'Alright if I gonna eat crap to help support my family and give my wife & kids a better life, better than I ever had, then that's what I'll do.' But eventually, you could only handle so much before you gotta walk away because you bring that misery home, and it's unhealthy. It's a unhealthy work environment, but then when you bring it home, you make it a unhealthy home environment for your family, and you can't do that. It just really feels good to be away from that. No one understands unless you've been there."

Becoming a great fit within the confines of Ring Of Honor: "I agree with you 100%. I've been watching the product, I know Jim Cornette personally, and I just love what they're doing down there. I've worked with Cornette; I like the formulation of what he's done in the past in OVW and what he's doing now. I think I'll be a great fit. Those kids could go, and they wrestle. These men wrestle, and that's what it's about. I have so much left in my tank. My body's healthy. I'm determined. I'm not gonna sit back and be upset & retire, I wanna go out and prove myself. I wanna prove myself to all the skeptics & all the creative that they didn't know what they had."

What is more appealing to Charlie when he makes his return to the ring on television: TNA or Ring Of Honor: "I will end up at one or the other I promise you that. I just wanna go out & wrestle. I wanna be given the opportunity I never had, and that's it. I wanna have fun: that passion is back, and I feel like a weight has been lifted off my chest. The odds are good I will end up somewhere, and the whole new destiny for Charlie Haas will definitely take a turn, and it'll be a turn for the best. Not just for the fans, but for me & my family as well."

Some of the superstars/performers that Charlie would want to face in TNA that he never had the opportunity to face in his career: "There's another Elijah Burke ('The Pope' D'Angelo Dinero), never did anything with him. Look what's happened. It's the same thing; the WWE didn't see anything in him or he's not entertaining enough. It's their loss, and that's just one of them. Shannon Moore was another one who was never given the opportunity. Jeff Hardy is the most popular wrestler there is in the world today. Kurt (Angle) is one of my best friends, we talk all the time, and I would love to run with him or Jeff or any of those wrestlers: AJ (Styles), Samoa Joe."

Charlie's thoughts on the passing of his close friend & business partner Eddie "Umaga" Fatu several few months ago: "He was my best friend and was my best friend since we started in the developmental territories together. He was with me when we found my brother dead. He was my best friend & my business partner, and his family is my family. It's just heartbreaking just to watch him and watch what happened, and to have to bury another one of your friends just really sucks."

Why Shelton Benjamin, like himself, has not been used to the best of his ability during his time in the WWE: "It's either someone doesn't like him in creative or he's just too good of a wrestler, or he just makes things look too good & too easy, or it's just very political. Someone at the time doesn't want him to succeed. They have who they want to push, and he's just not one of them. And it's unfortunate, because he is probably the most God-gifted athlete in sports (pro wrestling & the WWE), but they don't want to utilize that, so it's their loss. That's why I'm begging him not to sign back. He'll probably stay for the money, but he could utilized a lot better elsewhere I'll tell you that."

More is contained in Charlie's interview with the Monday Night Mayhem Radio Network, including his candid thoughts & comments on the real story behind his impersonations of past & present WWE Superstars, Legends, & Divas (including whose idea it was for the gimmick & which member of the WWE Creative Team that Charlie confided in the most during his return to the company), why the WWE almost pulled Shelton Benjamin from the forthcoming Money In The Bank Match at WrestleMania XXVI, & so much more! Log onto Charlie's official website & Facebook pages & , and be sure to check out the official online portal of Custom Muscle, presented by Charlie, along with his wife (Jackie Gayda Haas) & former WWE Champion, John Bradshaw Layfield (located at http://www.NutritionMarket.com).

Mr. Nerfect

03-16-2010, 01:48 PM

I really want to see Kurt Angle and Charlie Haas feud. Please make it happen, TNA.

Gertner

03-16-2010, 02:15 PM

Ffs, nobody has ever cared about Haas in a singles role in the past, present or future. Why you people think that all of a sudden he'll catch fire is beyond me. Nobody cares about Charlie Haas!

Mr. Nerfect

03-17-2010, 09:29 AM

People were about to care in 2004 when he completely served Dawn Marie and Miss Jackie their ho papers. But the WWE never followed up on it. Charlie the Pimp would have equated to ratings.

Gertner

03-17-2010, 09:47 AM

Just like Dean Malenko the pimp did.

NoRoolz

03-17-2010, 09:49 AM

People didn't care about Bradshaw either.

If done right he could do so well. He needs to start at the bottom, maybe pick up a winning streak, and eventually catch the eye of Kurt Angle who says he's glad to see him doing so well. They could team up for a few months, being best buddies etc, Haas's streak still in tact. Then, I dunno, Angle could lose one week to someone credible like Joe, then next week Haas could beat Joe clean and hints of Angle's jealousy could begin. Then in some sort of cluster match for a title shot including both Haas and Angle, Haas wins and there's more signs of frustration from Angle. The next week on iMPACT (don't wanna rush him into headlining PPVs) Haas gets double crossed by an interfering Kurt Angle, igniting a lengthy feud that'd really put Haas on the map.

NoRoolz

03-17-2010, 09:53 AM

I'm not even saying put a world title on Haas. Just use him properly, give him a push and see what happens.

A fresh gimmick maybe would be needed though unless the perfect slow build was done. Cos like Gertner said, plenty of casual fans would not take Haas credible as a main-eventer, some still even struggle taking Edge seriously!

Rammsteinmad

03-17-2010, 10:06 AM

Mr. Nerfect

03-17-2010, 01:51 PM

Just like Dean Malenko the pimp did.

They're not really the same thing. Dean Malenko was a sleazy guy meant to get embarrassed and such. He jobbed to Lita (with Matt Hardy's aid, but still). Charlie Haas looked awesome.

Besides, Dean Malenko still has a job with the WWE to this day, does he not?

Mr. Nerfect

03-17-2010, 01:53 PM

I can't find it anywhere, but does anyone remember when The World's Greatest Tag Team sung "APA is Crap?" I don't care what anyone says, I find Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas entertaining. You gotta love that "Haas = Pimp" sign at Armageddon, too.