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Testicle
03-30-2010, 11:25 PM
Are you fucking kidding me? Lets see the blind TNA marks defend this?
Before the Hogan/Bischoff era they were getting 1.1-1.2. Now they are spending twice the money and getting half the result.
The WWE doesn't even try and they still squash the competition. Just wait til Orton hits his full potential, good luck TNA.
Honestly, I don't know where to go with this, it just pisses me off that TNA was actually making improvements with the booking and story lines in 2009 and it seems as if they've pissed it away.
Edit: The actual rating was 0.56
The Franchise
03-30-2010, 11:27 PM
I think they have a bit of an excuse this time. RAW after Mania, HBK retirement etc
RAW score a fair bit higher than usual (3.7) so next week should be a better indicator. But realistically it will probably still be like 3.4 vs 0.73
Testicle
03-30-2010, 11:29 PM
It seems like there is an excuse every week.
Next week they'll improve because of them running unopposed in the first hour.
However, lol, ouch. They now have a pretty steady decline going. Wouldn't be surprised if this rating is what makes Spike think twice about them being on Mondays at all.
HeartBreakMan2k
03-30-2010, 11:32 PM
That's because they picked the worst possible time to go to Mondays. Mania season is always when WWE uptakes in ratings. Not saying I think TNA is going to do much better in the long run, but it is valid that they're going up against what is traditionally WWE's strongest rating period.
The Franchise
03-30-2010, 11:32 PM
Mostly because they picked the worst time to go head-to-head with RAW. Lets see how next week goes. Dont get me wrong, they will get their ass kicked but thats to be expected. If they start improving gradually then that is all good. Thing is, I dont see that happening.
If they don't pull out at least a .9 (rounded up, of course) next week I think they're done on Mondays.
The Franchise
03-30-2010, 11:35 PM
I watched some of last nights iMPACT..... Other than Kurt Angle their entire roster looks like complete shit to me. Sorry.
Testicle
03-30-2010, 11:37 PM
Moving to 8-10pm will help in the ratings, but that doesn't mean that any of their issues are being solved.
Testicle
03-30-2010, 11:38 PM
I watched some of last nights iMPACT..... Other than Kurt Angle their entire roster looks like complete shit to me. Sorry.
Pope is over. Thats about it.
kareru
03-30-2010, 11:45 PM
mondays show was great
with the nasty boys being fired everyone on the roster is great maybe with a couple of exeptions.
Just wait til Orton hits his full potential
this isn't dragonball z you know
Droford
03-30-2010, 11:46 PM
David Otunga is gonna kill TNA
Dark One
03-30-2010, 11:46 PM
Honestly, I don't know where to go with this, it just pisses me off that TNA was actually making improvements with the booking and story lines in 2009 and it seems as if they've pissed it away.
A thousand times THIS.
I came back to TNA and started watching again towards the tail end of last year. I was impressed with how things were improving... and then they rebooted in the middle of what I'd consider an upswing. It's been kind of a nightmare since then.
The problem with TNA is that they aren't focusing or pushing the guys that need to be pushed. The arrival of Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff and Ric Flair is great and everything, but if TNA wants to compete with the WWE, they need to show the fans that they are offering something new and exciting. Hulk Hogan and Abyss vs. Ric Flair and AJ Styles isn't exactly what I had in mind; nor is this feud between Foley and Bischoff. Those angles would've flown back in 2004 or 05, but this is a new decade.
What makes it worse is that they HAVE the talent needed to make themselves stand out as a new brand. I am all for the push AJ Styles is receiving as World Champion. I think he should continue to work the main event with guys like Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, Jeff Hardy, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley, Mr. Anderson and The Pope.
Featuring guys like The Nasty Boys, Eric Young, Jeff Jarrett, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Eric Bischoff, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Mick Foley and even Team 3D and Sting makes the company look bland and old. These guys are either all way past their primes or are just guys who can't "make it happen" for TNA.
The company needs to go in a new direction. Hulk Hogan's TNA is not the direction.
kareru
03-31-2010, 12:38 AM
the only old guys that wrestled monday was hall and nash
i suppose you could call jarrett an old guy but damnit the guy can still stick and move
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south776
03-31-2010, 12:39 AM
TNA and WWE will both be down next week. The NCAA Championship games is monday night. Thats gonna cause a huge dip in their ratings. It's gonna be tough to tell until the next time TNA is live I think.
lol "Hopefully".
Like she wouldn't love to have him on TNA.
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 12:44 AM
I'm taking credit for that entire 0.6 rating. Look at the TNA thread. If it wasn't for my blind support for their product they'd have been 0.4 or worse.
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 12:45 AM
lol "Hopefully".
Like she wouldn't love to have him on TNA.
Even her glasses aren't that rosey.
owenbrown
03-31-2010, 12:51 AM
somewhere....Bryan Alvarez is laughing his ass off or getting ready for another rant
screech
03-31-2010, 12:54 AM
I'm taking credit for that entire 0.6 rating. Look at the TNA thread. If it wasn't for my blind support for their product they'd have been 0.4 or worse.
:y:
Mr. Nerfect
03-31-2010, 12:56 AM
There are ways to explain the bad rating, as others have already put forward. I don't think individual ratings really count for much. I mean, yes, they do matter, but it's all about the trends over a period of time. This is a great time of year for the WWE, and they have a lot going on. On paper, this WrestleMania could have been one of the strongest in history.
TNA is not yet going under, and we'll see how they are doing in a few weeks when their long-term booking plans come to fruition. And yes, I do believe they have plans. AJ Styles has been distracted with this ridiculous Abyss stuff, but I am faithful that the main event of Lockdown will offer something fresh and new to people. If The Pope wins the World Title, for example, I think interest in TNA could steadily increase.
Also, looking over the TNA report, it seems that young guys are being put over. Eric Young got the pin in the main event, AJ Styles got to deflect Jarrett as a potential challenger, Samoa Joe is doing...something, Desmond Wolfe got to pin the #1 contender (bad move or not, it is great for Wolfe) and while he's still a bit of a joke, Jay Lethal got a chance to shine.
I'm still willing to give TNA time. So their rating is not great right now? It's not going to go up to 2.0 overnight. During the summer period (save for SummerSlam), which is the WWE's weakest, in my opinion, we'll see how TNA is doing.
And just look at what the Lockdown card is shaping up to be:
TNA World Heavyweight Championship
AJ Styles (c) (w/Ric Flair and Chelsea) vs. "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero
Lethal Lockdown -- Team Hogan vs. Team Flair
Abyss, Jeff Jarrett and more TBA vs. Sting and more TBA
Steel Cage Match
Kurt Angle vs. Mr. Anderson
If I had more disposal funds, I'd definitely order that PPV if it continues its current trend of being awesome.
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 12:58 AM
And by the way Monday's Impact was a pretty good show. Since they've been going head to head with Raw their shows have been better than Raw's (with the notable exceptions of the Steve Austin guest host and Shawn's farewell speech segment).
The ratings disappoint me but I'm liking TNA a lot. Their ratings are getting lower and lower based on a bunch of things. The fact that this is WWE's best time of year for ratings hurts. The fact that Michaels retired last night is a huge reason.
Possibly the biggest reason is because their first show (when a bunch of people tuned in) didn't capture people's imagination and they're paying for it. the 0.6 rating isn't for what they did last night its for what they did sevral weeks ago.
TNA has to be patient and continue to put on good shows. The last two shows were good, they gotta keep going doing the best they can and don't panic. If the consistantly put on good shows and allow time for word of moth to get around. Word of mouth not that the show is on but the show is on and it isn't the train wreck they remember. That is going to take a lot of time. They gotta put forth resonable goals. Right now TNA has to focus on getting a 1.0. Then after they get a 1.0 they have to focus on doing it two weeks in a row. Then they have to focus on maintaining it for a month. Then they can think of 1.5 ect.
If TNA were relaistic their goal should be to have consistant 1.5 shows by year end.
Unfortunatly, I think Dixie is dillusional enough to think that if only they sign (insert big name here) the can beat Raw in the ratings by summer.
0.6 is bad. Now they got to work on not getting worse.
See, the problem is that, save for one single week (and it was literally a .02 jump) TNA has seen a decline since debuting on Mondays.
Spike TV will see that and say "why are we keeping this around? Ratings have been declining over the last month".
I honestly believe next week is their last chance.
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 01:03 AM
See, the problem is that, save for one single week (and it was literally a .02 jump) TNA has seen a decline since debuting on Mondays.
Spike TV will see that and say "why are we keeping this around? Ratings have been declining over the last month".
I honestly believe next week is their last chance.
That may very well be true.
Though I like the idea of a "Monday Night War" Impact on Thursday night is much more convienent for me so I can watch both shows in full without poitentially missing something huge on Raw.
Kane Knight
03-31-2010, 01:46 AM
Seriously, anyone who didn't see their ratings going down this week is a moron. I'm not going to make excuses for TNA, but this was utterly predictable.
...Except for the magnitude of the drop.
The Mackem
03-31-2010, 02:55 AM
What else was on Monday night, beside wrestling?
What else was on Monday night, beside wrestling?
Law & Order
The Franchise
03-31-2010, 03:03 AM
Monday Night LAW
and Order
Emperor Smeat
03-31-2010, 03:20 AM
The timing of going head-to-head on the Mondays leading to Wrestlemania and the post-Mania RAW defiantly didn't end up as a smart move but the gap between each decline means its also something about the shows that is making people not bother to tune in.
If Spike or TNA begins to panic without thinking of the long term, its possible the quick fixes could hurt the company in the long run similar to WCW and their multiple reboots and feuds just to get some sort of temporary ratings boost.
Jeritron
03-31-2010, 03:24 AM
The taped shows definitely do much worse. I think it's safe to say that most of the wrestling fans that care about TNA in any way are familiar with how to read spoilers on the internet
None of this is an excuse. They need to move to 8-10, and if that doesn't work cut their losess.
Rammsteinmad
03-31-2010, 03:59 AM
Not gonna lie, I thought TNA was awesome until Hogan and Bischoff turned up.
Mostly Hogan.
The Gold Standard
03-31-2010, 08:27 AM
I have been saying this from the beginning, they moved to Monday too early. They should have stayed on Thursday for at least a year or 2 more, built their guys up and done monday specials maybe once a month. Ease everyone into the new "Monday Night Wars."
Right now it is not a "War" at all, it is a beat down. TNA was not ready and they are showing it.
I'm taking credit for that entire 0.6 rating. Look at the TNA thread. If it wasn't for my blind support for their product they'd have been 0.4 or worse.
If you spent time actually watching it on tv rather than posting it here, it might have gone upto to 0.65 :lol:
Innovator
03-31-2010, 09:38 AM
Hogan is off the show when its taped running against the RAW after Mania...hmmm
Mr. Nerfect
03-31-2010, 10:16 AM
TNA are wisely adjusting themselves -- if only minorly. I don't want to see them move away from Mondays, but they are moving the time down and that sort of thing. They just need a small victory here and there. If next week doesn't work, they can use Lockdown to shake things up, etc.
It's just a shame that TNA has an uphill battle with internet fans, because of their reputation for wacky shit. They're not really that bad anymore. The stuff sounds like a mess in spoilers and such, but when you actually watch it, it's quite easy to follow, and dare I say it -- riddled with development and character progression.
When TNA does do something stupid, though, it tends to be what is highlighted. Abyss with the Hall of Fame ring, for example. It doesn't matter how great AJ Styles, The Pope or Desmond Wolfe worked that week. TNA still has to pull its head in a fair bit, but long-term, I have (perhaps misplaced) faith they can do it.
Skippord
03-31-2010, 10:48 AM
Hogan is off the show when its taped running against the RAW after Mania...hmmm
bet he's off next week for the NCAA finals
Innovator
03-31-2010, 10:51 AM
Then every week after 830 when Football comes back
Skippord
03-31-2010, 10:55 AM
Hulk Hogan to return in January 2011!?
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 12:29 PM
If you spent time actually watching it on tv rather than posting it here, it might have gone upto to 0.65 :lol:
Oh I watched it alright...
So you're saying I'm a failure because it didn't go to 0.65?
I'll go now in shame.
Loose Cannon
03-31-2010, 12:42 PM
I think this summer and fall will tell the tale of what TNA can do on Monday's. That's usually when the WWE starts to suck it up and get boring. TNA would of been on for a couple of months then. So I am curious to see what they will do around those months.
I made it into a sig. My posting career is complete.
tjmidnight420
03-31-2010, 12:57 PM
Oh I watched it alright...
So you're saying I'm a failure because it didn't go to 0.65?
I'll go now in shame.
She definitely watched it... go check the impact thread. For her to say she was probably the only person that watched the whole show isn't much of an overstatement either. Everyone else can say what they want, but this chick is the athority on TNA on this board. Period.
Kane Knight
03-31-2010, 01:13 PM
She definitely watched it... go check the impact thread. For her to say she was probably the only person that watched the whole show isn't much of an overstatement either. Everyone else can say what they want, but this chick is the athority on TNA on this board. Period.
Having Amy Wong in your avatar doesn't make you a chick.
Well, no more than having Leela in your avatar would make you a cyclops.
He's no more an authority on TNA than a groupie is an authority on the band they fuck. He may desperately want TNA inside him, bu he's nothing more than a batshit fan.
The Mackem
03-31-2010, 01:22 PM
There have been some extremely bizarre people around here lately.
Innovator
03-31-2010, 01:28 PM
Mania influx of retardation
tjmidnight420
03-31-2010, 01:38 PM
Having Amy Wong in your avatar doesn't make you a chick.
Well, no more than having Leela in your avatar would make you a cyclops.
He's no more an authority on TNA than a groupie is an authority on the band they fuck. He may desperately want TNA inside him, bu he's nothing more than a batshit fan.
For such a smart person, how could you just assume that's why I figured it was a chick?
After all, you have a female in your avatar and I already know you aren't. I don't just assume things, especially on this board where everyone will rip you a new ass for not knowing your shit.
In some cases literally.
tjmidnight420
bostonbill41
YoungFlyFlashy
roach21
sa
TheAdamEvansFan
Wishbone
This guy and thread 'authors' from page 1. Who are these people and where are they coming from?
She definitely watched it... go check the impact thread. For her to say she was probably the only person that watched the whole show isn't much of an overstatement either. Everyone else can say what they want, but this chick is the athority on TNA on this board. Period.
To clear up the massive doubt here, how exactly do you know its a "she"?
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 03:15 PM
She definitely watched it... go check the impact thread. For her to say she was probably the only person that watched the whole show isn't much of an overstatement either. Everyone else can say what they want, but this chick is the athority on TNA on this board. Period.
Having Amy Wong in your avatar doesn't make you a chick.
Well, no more than having Leela in your avatar would make you a cyclops.
He's no more an authority on TNA than a groupie is an authority on the band they fuck. He may desperately want TNA inside him, bu he's nothing more than a batshit fan.
Yeah I'm a guy. I have a Y chromosome and everything.
I'm not a bat shit fan either. I'm just a fan and I was watching TNA and thought it might be humorous to be the only one posting on the thread.
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 03:16 PM
Funny how I've been on these boards for almost a decade and people think I'm a chick.
I must not have made an impact.
I thought you were a chick for a while.
:$
I take it this means you are renouncing your candidacy for the position of 'Chick that is the authority on TNA on this board' then?
(for the record, I never thought you had a vagina)
Londoner
03-31-2010, 03:25 PM
Funny how I've been on these boards for almost a decade and people think I'm a chick.
I must not have made an impact.
never thought that myself.
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 04:42 PM
I thought you were a chick for a while.
:$
It's cool, I find it kinda funny actually.
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 04:43 PM
I take it this means you are renouncing your candidacy for the position of 'Chick that is the authority on TNA on this board' then?
I'd like to be the authority on TNA on this board. Do I have to be nominated?
That is how democracy works. So no. But the only position available I believe is Authority on TNA [Female] :-\
The Show Off
03-31-2010, 04:48 PM
That is how democracy works. So no. But the only position available I believe is Authority on TNA [Female] :-\
Oh well.
Who's the male authority?
Vince Russo. He definitely posts here.
I assumed he just lurked.
Nah, far too many new spastics in the wrestling forum for him not to have something to do with it. It's all Russo all the time.
moonface
03-31-2010, 05:27 PM
this isn't dragonball z you know
Lol
SOCCER LEGS
03-31-2010, 06:33 PM
TNA sucks and the rating reflects it. do everyone a favor and close down the shop while angle isn't too old to return to the WWE.
FearedSanctity
03-31-2010, 07:36 PM
After reading the ratings breakdown, RAW did its best in the 18-34 demo since January 4th and before that the RAW after WM25, while Impact did its lowest in that demo
(for the record, I never thought you had a vagina)
I dont believe you need a vagina to be a chick anymore :shifty:
There's a Lara Emily joke there somewhere
Volare
03-31-2010, 08:22 PM
I watch for the theme song not the team....though they're ok.
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Kane Knight
03-31-2010, 08:38 PM
For such a smart person, how could you just assume that's why I figured it was a chick?
After all, you have a female in your avatar and I already know you aren't. I don't just assume things, especially on this board where everyone will rip you a new ass for not knowing your shit.
In some cases literally.
But you clearly don't know your shit, since he's an admitted dude.
QED.
Indifferent Clox
03-31-2010, 08:51 PM
They picked the fucking best time, their ratings will start out low and steadily increase due to exposure and due to waning interest in WWE following mania, there is now way the ratings could go down so while they may have a rocky start, it's been like fuckiing two months.
The Pope
03-31-2010, 09:06 PM
The Pope
They picked the fucking best time, their ratings will start out low and steadily increase due to exposure and due to waning interest in WWE following mania, there is now way the ratings could go down so while they may have a rocky start, it's been like fuckiing two months.
In that one month (not two) they dropped their years-long established and recurring 1.0 by almost half.
You'd have a point if they started out a .6, but they started out at a 1.2 on Mondays.
treyace
03-31-2010, 11:41 PM
i can't even lie i watched more of raw this week then i have for a while
still thought impact had the better show "jay lethal is a funny guy" but
when i heard orton "the best wrestler today" was teaming with cena i had to see that
and of course HBK's farewell i've been watching wrasslin lol too long to miss that one
FearedSanctity
04-01-2010, 02:58 AM
The Pope
Hate to tell you, but Pope's segment, as well as Samoa Joe and Orlano Jordan, was the lowest rated part of the show, dropping down to a .43. :(
AKin3D
04-01-2010, 05:43 AM
Then every week after 830 when Football comes back
I was just thinking about the effect "other" sports were going to have on Impact's ratings.
FearedSanctity
04-01-2010, 06:43 AM
Yeah, next week they officially run out of excuses for WWE, but they'll have to deal with NCAA basketball then. Though isn't their reason for starting an hour earlier to avoid that?
Kane Knight
04-01-2010, 09:01 AM
They picked the fucking best time, their ratings will start out low and steadily increase due to exposure and due to waning interest in WWE following mania, there is now way the ratings could go down so while they may have a rocky start, it's been like fuckiing two months.
Wanting something to be true does not make it true.
I was just thinking about the effect "other" sports were going to have on Impact's ratings.
Probably a minimal impact. No pun intended. The bigger shows are the ones most "hit," and since they're big enough, they can afford to lose a decent chunk to the millions who will watch college and major league sports.
Hence, "probably" and "minimal."
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