Random Comic Book Thoughts

[Kalyx triaD]

She should be a Titan as well.

[Lock Jaw]

I'm pretty surprised that Stephanie Brown hasn't already been on some sort of teen team.

She made like one or two appearances in Young Justice, and that's it.

[KIRA]

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If the villans only knew how many members of the bat family there are they'd probably shit bricks

[Kalyx triaD]

Arkham Asylum 2 should have everyone in that pic available.

[The Destroyer]

Speaking of sentry, WHEN THE FUCK DOES SEIGE #4 COME OUT?

Feels like it's been forever since 3 came out.
It came out this week.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[LuigiD]

:shifty:

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[Fignuts]

If there is on DC vs Marvel crossover I'd like to see, it's deadpool and batman.

[Lock Jaw]

There was a Superman/Batman annual awhile ago where they were fighting Deathstroke, and some "Deathstroke from an alternate universe" who was running around doing shenanigans.

[Lock Jaw]

And by "awhile ago" I mean back in the days of 2006.

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[LuigiD]

As much as Batman and Deadpool would interest me..Iron Man vs Batman would interest me even more.

[Kalyx triaD]

EMP grenade with anti-EMP shield piercing radial output. Left third pouch utility belt. Batman wins.

[LuigiD]

i don't buy Batman wins so easily. I think Stark's intellect is often not represented well.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh I know Stark's a smart dude. He had a handmade nuclear reactor for a heart. I'm just saying Bruce is scary smart.

[Jeritron]

Nobody wins. They have an interesting fight and then become friends, and it's crossed of the list of cash cow crossovers

[Kalyx triaD]

One of them regularly owns a Kryptonian demi-god and the other is a man in a metal suit.

[LuigiD]

The reason why I would love to see them go at it is because of how close the fight would be. I am leaning towards Batman usually, but then ill read or look up something about Iron Man and completely change my mind. Hand to hand combat Batman would win hands down for sure tho.

[Kalyx triaD]

I had a concept story for a Batman/Crow crossover with some cool themes that aren't the typical 'fan service crossover' tropes. Don't think I'll ever write it out but someone should.

[Kalyx triaD]

The reason why I would love to see them go at it is because of how close the fight would be. I am leaning towards Batman usually, but then ill read or look up something about Iron Man and completely change my mind. Hand to hand combat Batman would win hands down for sure tho.

I don't know, Batman beat a lot of guys he couldn't have if it was a physical contest. A lot of his own rogues are stronger than him.

[Jeritron]

Iron Man was snubbed in the Marvel vs DC run

[Jeritron]

I don't know, Batman beat a lot of guys he couldn't have if it was a physical contest. A lot of his own rogues are stronger than him.

Yes but what he's saying is, Tony is not superpowered either. He is a product of intelligence, will power and a great suit as well. In Stark's world, he is as strong as Bruce Wayne.
In reality, Batman is the more popular and iconic character, so he has the edge. On the grounds of their characters though, they're "booked" similarly. I think if you approach it with that fairness, it's pretty evenly matched. Same with Spiderman.

Everyone always says, Batman will always win because he's the smartest and most determined. Well, yea, he's fucking Batman. That's why.
For all intents and purposes, other characters can have those qualities too once preference, popularity and legacy are checked.

[LuigiD]

I don't know, Batman beat a lot of guys he couldn't have if it was a physical contest. A lot of his own rogues are stronger than him.
I am not saying that is why he wins, just that if the fight came down to that..I can see Batman winning.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't consider 'pro-wrestling' style booking, and Batman isn't anywhere near my favorite comic book character. I find Bruce and Tony equally compelling for different reasons, though I understand that they are their respective universe's top 'reactive inventors'. You might beat Bruce or Tony once, but it will never happen again. Many villains and even heroes learned this the hard way.

Why I give this bout to the Bat is that between the two, Bruce is the one impaired by his duty. Bruce plays the playboy, Tony actually enjoys his riches. I say Batman will win not to solidify his badassery or popularity, but because he's insanely dedicated to beating you. Every opponent becomes the face of his parent's killers for that battle. You can't beat that craziness with Thor's hammer.

[dronepool]

There was a Superman/Batman annual awhile ago where they were fighting Deathstroke, and some "Deathstroke from an alternate universe" who was running around doing shenanigans.

That's a great issue. I ordered it from ebay last year.

[LuigiD]

While I greatly agree with Batman's obsessive behavior, I do not agree with Iron Man's will to fight. When Iron Man started out, Iron Man seemed to be greatly obsessed with stopping communism from spreading. Thus, all the famous clashes with all the Soviet influenced heroes. Originally, Stark followed the playboy persona as a way to cover his identity.
Iron Man seems pretty dedicated about what he does. I really can't think of the last time in years that he was shown just hanging out. He showed some real commitment during the last couple of years. I think the character also has the disadvantage that it has faced terrible writing at times. I mean, Whiplash has defeated Iron Man. I think Hawkeye has as well.
At the same time tho..I have seen Iron Man go toe to toe with some heavyweights like Thanos...then there is the fact that Tony has even changed his biological code over the years to make himself more "meta-human."

[Jeritron]

I don't consider 'pro-wrestling' style booking, and Batman isn't anywhere near my favorite comic book character. I find Bruce and Tony equally compelling for different reasons, though I understand that they are their respective universe's top 'reactive inventors'. You might beat Bruce or Tony once, but it will never happen again. Many villains and even heroes learned this the hard way.

Why I give this bout to the Bat is that between the two, Bruce is the one impaired by his duty. Bruce plays the playboy, Tony actually enjoys his riches. I say Batman will win not to solidify his badassery or popularity, but because he's insanely dedicated to beating you. Every opponent becomes the face of his parent's killers for that battle. You can't beat that craziness with Thor's hammer.

I was just using the term "booked". Would "written" be more comfortable, since it serves to make the exact same point without implying that I view this as 'pro wrestling'

[Kalyx triaD]

Either/or, I wasn't attacking the usage.

[Jeritron]

I think Tony Stark and Batman should develop a tech exchange in any potential crossover. I think a Stark Tech Batsuit, if only for just one night of use, would kick all kinds of ass.

[LuigiD]

I agree with Jeritron's idea.
I remember a few years back there was a Spawn/Batman crossover. At the end Spawn asked if they can work together and Batman pretty much told him to fuck off haha

[Jeritron]

Similar deal with Spidey. That's just a convenient way of moving on from a crossover that has no future anyways. If Batman can work with Robin, and in JLA, he can be buddies with Marvel characters. It just doesn't have any longterm endgame, so it's avoided.

It would be great if Stark and Wayne built eachother special suits that they DIDN'T use in the crossover. This way, both companies could use them once down the road, and it would be a nice suprise.

[LuigiD]

Similar deal with Spidey. That's just a convenient way of moving on from a crossover that has no future anyways. If Batman can work with Robin, and in JLA, he can be buddies with Marvel characters. It just doesn't have any longterm endgame, so it's avoided.

It would be great if Stark and Wayne built eachother special suits that they DIDN'T use in the crossover. This way, both companies could use them once down the road, and it would be a nice suprise.

It would be like playing Secret Friend. You build me a suit, ill build you one too.
I would imagine Stark and Wayne would be extremely paranoid of one another. Stark would think that Bruce is a guy that is always on the edge and Wayne would think Stark is too reckless to have so much power.
Totally would keep giant files, analysis', etc on one another.

[Jeritron]

Having Stark and Waynes corporate interests inter-twined with their hero personas would be the appropriate storytelling device for such a crossover.

[Jeritron]

I'd so much rather see Batman, years later, dust off a gift Stark suit in a pinch, rather than just use it to fight against or alongside Iron Man in a few panels.

[LuigiD]

Absolutely.
Stark-Wayne merger. Would be interesting if they were to compete financially. Then again, Wayne does not look like a destructive businessman. I doubt much would come of it. Inter-wined enterprises is probably more realistic.

[Fignuts]

EMP grenade with anti-EMP shield piercing radial output. Left third pouch utility belt. Batman wins.

Don't care how good the eMP grenade is. Stark's Iron man suit is one of the most advanced pieces of technology on the planet. It wouldn't work.


Iron Man said something recently, I don't remember where, but it was "If I could be taken out by an emp, then I wouldn't been doing this for so long."

[Kalyx triaD]

Comic group updated with shots of heroes in their movie versions. Holla.

[Vastardikai]

Don't care how good the eMP grenade is. Stark's Iron man suit is one of the most advanced pieces of technology on the planet. It wouldn't work.


Iron Man said something recently, I don't remember where, but it was "If I could be taken out by an emp, then I wouldn't been doing this for so long."

Fifth of Whiskey, 1st pouch on the left of the Utility Belt.

Batman wins.

[Vastardikai]

Oh yeah, new random thought:

Nightwing is, bar none, the MOST AWESOME name for a superhero EVER.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gotta admit, though, DC heroes have lame names compared to Marvel. If I was in either universe I'd get nervous the "X-Men" or a "Wolverine" was coming after me rather than hearing about a "Teen Titans" or a "Black Canary" coming after me.

[mitchables]

'doom patrol' is pretty bad-ass

[Kalyx triaD]

It's overly badass, I'd think it was a bunch of kids trying to scare me.

[Jeritron]

Justice League is a lame name too. It sounds like an afterschool activity. It's one step up from Team Discovery Channel.
I'd much rather be called an Avenger

[mitchables]

"extreme justice" sounds a bit frightening to be honest, but not because they're superheroes; because it sounds like they're going to do really fucking weird shit to you once they've caught you.

"legion of super-heroes" is pretty cool but it's also very obvious. i like the word "legion" but it kind of gets a bit weak after that. "legion", however, is badass.

"titans" by itself, as they've been going by lately, is alright too.

"outsiders" isn't particularly awful.

there is, however, no saving "young justice".

the show should be good. terrible group name though.

[mitchables]

on the other side of the coin, for all of marvel's avengers and x-men, there are still things like the "all-winners squad", "teen brigade", and "action pack".

[Reavant]

Horseman of apocalypse... how bad ass is that

[Reavant]

The brotherhood isnt a bad one either

[The Destroyer]

The brotherhood isnt a bad one either
"The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" sounds a bit cheesy though. Ditto Sinister's former goons, the Nasty Boys.

[Reavant]

Alpha flight sounds cool

[Reavant]

horsemen of the apocalypse is hands down the best name for a group of villains

[Jeritron]

Marvel has always involved the whole military aspect in a more distinct way. I think that's a big part of why things like The Avengers, X-Men, SHIELD, etc. seem so badass

[Reavant]

Marvel characters seem like they exist in a world that is relatively self sufficient while the world depends on the heros in the DC universe

[Jeritron]

Marvel heroes are more like action heroes, in a world of science and weapons, whereas DC characters seem more like mythological figures

[BigDaddyCool]

Marvel heroes are more like action heroes, in a world of science and weapons, whereas DC characters seem more like mythological figures

Unless you count Thor...

[Jeritron]

There are exceptions obviously. Batman is an example in the other direction.

[Reavant]

it just seems like in DC, the world and its governments have given up to the heros and relys on them to run the show and keep everyone safe while in marvel, the US is not against marching an army against heros and villains if need be. especially against the mutants.

[KIRA]

Justice League is a lame name too. It sounds like an afterschool activity. It's one step up from Team Discovery Channel.
I'd much rather be called an Avenger Like the Justice Lords better despite the totalitarianism of the name and group and at least they aren't calling them the Super Friends :nono:

[McLegend]

I actually think Justice League is a good name. I pretty much agree with the other ones though.

[LuigiD]

I have always felt the Marvel Universe is meant to reflect the world we live in more than the DC Universe. As others pointed out, I think governments react realistically in the Marvel Universe: stubborn as fuck. For example, I like how despite having no progress at all, armies are always trying to kill the hulk.
In DC, as others have pointed out, it seems like heroes pretty much run the show.

[Lock Jaw]

Marvel also seems to have a better developed world because they DO have like a bajillion more titles a month than DC does.

[Reavant]

batman seems like its the only dc comic where the general public shows regular resistance to him, but its still not anywhere near marvel

[LuigiD]

I feel the Marvel Universe is overall more "mature" and complex since it tries to relate to the real world..which is also a flaw since it can create storyline inconsistencies(something DC deals with much better.) I remember a while watching some documentary on comics some artists and writers said they have always felt like most comic readers start out with DC and when they get older they graduate to Marvel. Now, of course that is a very generalized statement. DC has had some super incredible stories that were def. not meant for children. But I feel since DC has heroes with such an epic legacy such as Super-Man, they feel like they probably can't take as many liberties.

[mitchables]

just read return of bruce wayne #1

bad. ass.

http://users.tpg.com.au/rywa01//robw1.jpg

also, side note, just because he was in it - anybody read booster gold? he honestly became such a good character during and after 52.

[parkmania]

As many of these Marvel vs DC threads are on here, PLEASE tell me you guys have been watching the youtube stuff from It'sjustsomerandomguy...

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[Kalyx triaD]

Those vids are hilarious, particularly when he uses Deadpool.

[LuigiD]

just read return of bruce wayne #1

bad. ass.

http://users.tpg.com.au/rywa01//robw1.jpg

also, side note, just because he was in it - anybody read booster gold? he honestly became such a good character during and after 52.
I have. I was reading the series regularly a while back.
You are right. I think 52 gave many heroes in the DC universe the chance to finally shine.

[Vastardikai]

Those vids are hilarious, particularly when he uses Deadpool.

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You mean like this one? :D

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[mitchables]

lol. batman rules that video.

[dronepool]

I love those videos. I would buy a DVD full of those videos.

[KIRA]

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:rofl:

[Kalyx triaD]

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Wanted to post this in Marvel Movie News but I'm certain somebody take it seriously. Fuckin awesome, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

I have a fun idea for a Batman themed webcomic. Writers/artists holla at me.

[Rammsteinmad]

:rofl: at those videos.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Fignuts]

gay

[Rammsteinmad]

If they come with mini jet thrusters that allow you to fly/hover off the ground, then I'm getting some. :y:

[Kalyx triaD]

They need to release those repulsar gloves people were pimping in the movie.

[Vastardikai]

Poor attempt at comedy alert:

At what point did Clark Kent realize he had powers?

a: Did he see a hot chick at puberty and heat visioned her into ash?
b: Did he jump out of bed one morning and put a hole in the floor?
c: Did he suddenly realize he couldn't use a pencil properly?

[mitchables]

http://thechedda.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Sea-Bear-and-Grizzly-Shark-.jpg

can't wait

[Funky Fly]

lol what? That looks awesome.

[mitchables]

fucking a it does. check out these interiors:

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also

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gonna be epic

[Kalyx triaD]

Wow.

[Reavant]

hahahahahahahahahaghahaha

[Jeritron]

I'm with Shark.

[Nowhere Man]

Holy shit, that looks amazing.

[Lock Jaw]

WHEN DOES THIS GO ON SALE

[mitchables]

june 23 awww yeah

[mitchables]

Wow.

let me in a little here kalyx, wow 'that looks amazing' or wow 'that is the stupidest thing i have ever seen in my life'?

[Kalyx triaD]

Ya know what, I'm gonna leave it open. Ambiguity generates interest.

[mitchables]

moar bear

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totally with bear

[McLegend]

Yeah I am going with Bear as well.

I have feeling that Shark will become more popular though.

[Jeritron]

Shark has a baby in it's mouth in that picture. Come on.

[BigDaddyCool]

Eh...it sounds too, i don't know, forced.

[KIRA]

I approve of this absurdest horror

[mitchables]

Eh...it sounds too, i don't know, forced.

are you kidding me? i understand the concept at face value is a bit shallow but come on, that aspirin sequence in grizzly shark is hilarious. brilliantly done.

[mitchables]

actually the art in general is tremendous. that panel of the bear standing on his hindlegs in the boat before he dives back into the ocean is awesome. i can't put my finger on why though, but i love that panel.

[Jeritron]

Yea I thought that was amazing too

[Kalyx triaD]

FLORIDA SUPERCON: South Florida's Comic Book, Anime, Animation, Video Game, Fantasy and Sci-Fi Convention returns June 18-20, 2010 to the Doubletree Miami Mart Airport Convention Center in Miami, FL.

KALYX IS SO THERE

[mitchables]

you better tweet us updates fucking minutely

[Lock Jaw]

Just finished reading War of the Supermen.

For a story that at its outset promised to forever change the status quo of Superman comics... the War of the Supermen seemed all about getting it back to normal.

Pretty much all the supporting characters introduced are gone. Main villain is dead. Kryptonians all gone. I would have liked to see this have been longer than four issues. Could have been even more epic. Like if they made the war 12 issues, and made that World of New Krypton one 4 issues.

Don't get me wrong... all in all, I'd say it was a good story. The middle of this whole saga just went on too long with far too little of importance happening.

[KIRA]

I realized something yesterday,I really hate Superman I hate everything about him hes a overpowered boyscout and he has the second worst disguise ever.

Somebody change my mind.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nah, you're cool. I love Supes, though. Ultimate superhero in my mind. I'd follow him to Hell (as I would Captain America, but my survival rate is higher with the Kryptonian).

[Lock Jaw]

I realized something yesterday,I really hate Superman I hate everything about him hes a overpowered boyscout and he has the second worst disguise ever.

Somebody change my mind.

Nah. I've learned long ago that it isn't even worth trying to defect a Superman-hater.

Superman is kind of like pro wrestling. You either get it or you don't. And when you don't, it looks ridiculous.

[Nowhere Man]

I always love the whole "I hate Superman because he's a boy scout" line, when that's pretty much how most of the people I know usually act.

[Kalyx triaD]

And wanna be.

[Lock Jaw]

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[KIRA]

And wanna be.

Personally Ive always wanted to be either Batman or the green/white ranger

[BigDaddyCool]

are you kidding me? i understand the concept at face value is a bit shallow but come on, that aspirin sequence in grizzly shark is hilarious. brilliantly done.

meh

[Reavant]

bump

[Kalyx triaD]

So Walking Dead TV should be ready by next year, huh?

[Boondock Saint]

First 6 episodes air in October last I read.

[Nowhere Man]

Heh, now that I'm thinking about it, I realized that I'm a little hypocritical for getting all up-in-arms about Wonder Woman's new costume. Yes, it looks retarded, and it takes away all of her 'iconic' image so now she looks completely out of place standing alongside Superman and Batman. On the other hand, I have to admit, I really never actually gave a shit about Wonder Woman, so at the very least the big shake-up has got me paying attention.

[dronepool]

Batman: Under The Red Hood was amazing. Can't wait to buy it.

[Fignuts]

Black Widow is a pretty awesome book thus far.

[Kalyx triaD]

First 6 episodes air in October last I read.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/07/walking_dead-1.jpg

Woooooo

[McLegend]

How popular is Thor?

[Jeritron]

How popular is Thor?

Have you ever seen Adventures In Babysitting?

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, Thor is pretty god damned popular.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[BigDaddyCool]

I just got Y: The Last Man volume 6 - 8 trades! Yay me.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also side note, there are 3 Y: The Last Man movies in the works rumored to be starring Shia LaBeouf and Alicia Keys.

[Funky Fly]

Not bad choices, actually.

[Funky Fly]

Then again, how are the films going to do with the obvious R rating they'll get?

[Kalyx triaD]

So long as it pleases me they could bomb for all I care.

[BigDaddyCool]

Kalyx, you are retarded on so many levels.

[BigDaddyCool]

Then again, how are the films going to do with the obvious R rating they'll get?

Y The Last Man is intended for Mature Audiences, not 13 year olds.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, but these days the R rating is the new NC-17. It just kills any hope a summer movie has of making money.

[BigDaddyCool]

Sin City and 300 did alright and they had R ratings.

[BigDaddyCool]

Where are you getting that information anyhow?

[Inadequacy]

I'm starting to think Peter Parker and Mary Jane are going to get back together in the near future. Brand New Day was a gamble that paid off in the long run and I'm kind of diasppointed to see this happen.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, it totally revitalized the character. Too bad.

[Majunior]

In a lot of ways, I really hated BND. It just struck me as the most blatant and infuriating retcon ever.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, that was my feeling at the start, but then it won me over and became really really good.

[Jeritron]

Sin City and 300 did alright and they had R ratings.

Some movies with R ratings do very well, but it's no secret that in the past decade or so studios have really tried to stay away from that rating to increase the box office.
Making Alien, Predator and Terminator sequels PG-13 is an example, and even most horror and slasher movies these days aim to stay below R.
Die Hard 4 was shot to be an R, but edited down to be a PG-13 for theaters. I'm glad they at least shot it appropriately so I could enjoy it on DVD. I literally waited to see it on video when I heard that was their plan.


Studios also seem to be wising up a little though. They realize that certain types of franchises and movies are just tailored for an R rating, and going against that and lessening quality/pissing fans off can be just as detrimental to the numbers as the big bad R.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, that was my feeling at the start, but then it won me over and became really really good.

Yeah, the gauntlet has been amazing.

[The Destroyer]

In a lot of ways, I really hated BND. It just struck me as the most blatant and infuriating retcon ever.
The change itself was badly done, but the end result was actually quite good. I've been following ASM completely ever since, something I never really bothered to do with Spidey titles beforehand.

[mitchables]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/07/walking_dead-1.jpg

Woooooo

fucking yesssssssssss

[mitchables]

seriously hope they don't water it down for tv. that book is disturbing and confronting as hell. if they friendly it up i will be fucking livid. characters like the governor cannot be fucked with.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's not on CW or anything.

[mitchables]

yes because that means so much to me as an international viewer.

[Kalyx triaD]

Get better cable.

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/9029/Cable_head.jpg

[thedamndest]

Some movies with R ratings do very well, but it's no secret that in the past decade or so studios have really tried to stay away from that rating to increase the box office.
Making Alien, Predator and Terminator sequels PG-13 is an example, and even most horror and slasher movies these days aim to stay below R.
Die Hard 4 was shot to be an R, but edited down to be a PG-13 for theaters. I'm glad they at least shot it appropriately so I could enjoy it on DVD. I literally waited to see it on video when I heard that was their plan.


Studios also seem to be wising up a little though. They realize that certain types of franchises and movies are just tailored for an R rating, and going against that and lessening quality/pissing fans off can be just as detrimental to the numbers as the big bad R.

With the sequels you mentioned it made sense to get PG-13 ratings because there was no telling what kind of reaction a movie from a franchise that hadn't had a film in so many years would generate. It made sense to make your movie available to as many people as possible.

I saw Die Hard 4 in theaters and then waited for the DVD. There really wasn't that much difference besides some missing language (which is a huge part of the Die Hard universe) but they should really do this with all films that started out with an R rating.

[dronepool]

It's a shame that content gets in the way of making money. Sometimes there might be an exception like with Terminator 3, it was rated R and it did better than Salvation (probably due to the hype of following Judgment Day) I'm not sure if the site counts DVD buys for the worldwide gross, but here it is-

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=terminator3.htm

Domestic Total Gross: $150,371,112

Worldwide Gross: $433,371,112


http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=terminatorsalvation.htm

Domestic Total Gross: $125,322,469

Worldwide Gross: $371,353,001

[thedamndest]

T4 didn't star Arnold and followed an only okay sequel. But most importantly it didn't star Arnold.

[dronepool]

True.

[Fignuts]

Odered the first 5 trades of the recent iron fist series. Definitely one of the best series running atm.

[Lock Jaw]

I agree. Except that it isn't running anymore.

The recent "take" on Iron Fist would be good for churning out another Marvel movie.

[Fignuts]

What? Those bastards. Well at least now I can catch up with my GL trades. Last one I got was Sinestro Corps war part 1,

[Lock Jaw]

So, for some reason I was thinking about this last night as I was trying to sleep. A sure sign of my utterly hopeless NERDAGE.

The Flash has had a messed up few years.

- Wally West and Kid Flash (Bart Allen) run into the speed-force in Infinite Crisis in attempt to stop Superboy-Prime. Bart Allen manages to escape, but is now an adult.
- Adult Bart Allen becomes The Flash. His series lasts something like 12 issues and he is later killed.
- Wally West is brought back into reality by the Legion of Super-Heroes in the present era.
- Wally become The Flash again and the numbering of his old book continues. But it is soon canceled!
- Bart Allen is brought back to life in the 30th century by the Legion of Super-Heroes, and is a teenager again and back to being Kid Flash.
- Barry Allen is brought back to life in the pages of Final Crisis and we have yet another new Flash, and another new Flash series.

[Funky Fly]

Dude, I kinda really want to get into a lot more DC comics, but shit like that is exactly why I don't. I have no idea where to start.

[dronepool]

Dude, I kinda really want to get into a lot more DC comics, but shit like that is exactly why I don't. I have no idea where to start.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6&order=desc

Any specific characters?

[Fignuts]

Yeah, I thought x-men's history was convoluted, but dc is ridiculous. Not to mention the stupid amount of retcons.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, I thought x-men's history was convoluted, but dc is ridiculous. Not to mention the stupid amount of retcons.

Most of X-Men isn't too bad for that. There's a period immediately after Polaris first joins the team where they released a "hidden years" series to flesh it out. It's actually well done. There's a lot of "Days of Future ____" sprinkled throughout the 80s and 90s that gets pretty ridiculous, but if you follow the (Revised) Chronological X-Men torrents, you will be fine all the way up to around Uncanny X-Men 475. Not just X-Men, mind you, but all canon X-teams (X-Factor, X-Terminators, etc) and related X-family books (Cable, Deadpool, etc). They're pretty good shit.

Plan on buying all this shit through trades when I am finally able to do so (gonna cost a fucking fortune tho).

[BigDaddyCool]

What are good non super hero comics? I'm kind of more interesting in that now.

[Nowhere Man]

What are good non super hero comics? I'm kind of more interesting in that now.

The Walking Dead
American Splendor
Y: The Last Man
Sandman (well, it has the occasional superhero in it since it's still in DC continuity, but rarely ever counts as an actual superhero book)
Usagi Yojimbo
100 Bullets

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah, I thought x-men's history was convoluted, but dc is ridiculous. Not to mention the stupid amount of retcons.

As much as I love DC, that right there is the God's honest truth. It's impossible to keep up with the actual makeup of the DC Universe because they completely retcon just about everything about every five years or so. Usually in a sad attempt to "modernize" their characters, which always ends up in embarrassing disasters like Superman Blue.

[BigDaddyCool]

The Walking Dead
American Splendor
Y: The Last Man
Sandman (well, it has the occasional superhero in it since it's still in DC continuity, but rarely ever counts as an actual superhero book)
Usagi Yojimbo
100 Bullets

I've almost finished with Y the last man, that is why I'm into none super hero books.

[Lock Jaw]

I dunno, to me DC is way more straightforward than Marvel.

Also, 100 Bullets was pretty terrible.

As for non-hero books, one of my favorites on the market right now is Fables. About to hit its 10th issue, but TPBs are readily available. Basically follows the lives of various Fables (Snow White, Big Bad Wolf, Boy Blue, Prince Charming etc...) as they have been forced out of their various homelands by an all-conquering "Advesary" and now live in the "mundane" world in New York City.

[DaveBrawl]

I dunno, to me DC is way more straightforward than Marvel.

I think the Spiderman clone saga from years ago almost killed me from reading Marvel books for a long time, it was so convoluted to me. :lol:

I was never a religious reader of any series from either company outside of Knightfall it seems like they both reset everything so often, such as Zero Hour after Knightfall. Stuff like that really turns some people off. I mean going back to Spidey, I never was a big fan of his but I was going through different characters a few months ago since I stopped reading comics for the most part after No Man's Land for DC and Hero's Return in Marvel, and I saw Mysterio reset Spiderman back to before he met Mary Jane, I stopped reading up on him as soon as I saw that.

I was always a fan of the Iron Man, Captain America and Batman books though, anyone know a good point to pick up on any of those?

[Lock Jaw]

Captain America definitely the current volume by Brubaker. I believe they even have massive omnibus out collecting his run.

Batman books, you can start getting all the post Batman: RIP stuff with Dick Grayson as Batman, or you can start getting "The Return of Bruce Wayne". Then there is a new "Batman Inc" series starting up soon by Grant Morrison... but Morrison has been real crap lately, so probably try the bat-books that aren't written by him.

[DaveBrawl]

Sounds good. Didn't think I would like anyone but Bruce as Batman, but I really got into Azreal. Shame he got offed, JP Valley will probably end up being the only character in comic history not brought back from the dead. :lol:

[Lock Jaw]

Apparently there is an Azrael as Batman/Punisher crossover somewhere out there.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080201150426/marvel_dc/images/thumb/5/5b/Batman_Punisher_-_Lake_of_Fire.jpg/300px-Batman_Punisher_-_Lake_of_Fire.jpg

[DaveBrawl]

That just looks awesome.

[dronepool]

If you like Batman, check out Daredevil by Ed Brubaker. Awesome street level crime stuff with a dash of ninja and superheroics.



http://i37.tinypic.com/ojktg0.jpg


Even though I'm trade waiting Shadowland, I read the first 2 issues and liked it. Anybody else?

[Jeritron]

I want a Daredevil/Ninja Turtles crossover so bad

[DaveBrawl]

Daredevil as a character always intrigued me especially when he was living in the street, but for some reason I never started reading the comics. Probably lack of supply as most places around here only carry the mainstream books.

[dronepool]

I want a Daredevil/Ninja Turtles crossover so bad

That would be great because that's what inspired their creation :)

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty much anything Brubaker writes is the goods.

- His Batman stuff
- His run on Catwoman
- Gotham Central
- Captain America
- Criminal
- Incognito
- Daredevil
- Immortal Iron Fist

[Lock Jaw]

Gotham Central is pretty awesome, for anyone who hasn't read it. Basically a CSI-type comic focused around the detectives of Gotham. My only gripe with it is that it was written at a point when Jim Gordon and Harvey Bullock weren't on the force. Biggest names left were Renee Montoya and Crispus Allen, along with Maggie Sawyer (who was a Superman supporting character in the 90s). But there was a larger cast of names that you get to eventually know.

It was still the goods though. Get to see everything from the police perspective. One of my favorite Joker stories is in this series as well.

[Reavant]

I love the artwork that mcfarlane does.... i believe he was the original artist for venom and of course his work on spawn is awesome

[Jeritron]

Yea McFarlane did Spidey during the original Venom stuff.

http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/images/spiderman_amazing/300.jpg

First appearance of Venom is in this issue, I think

[Jeritron]

I always loved the way he drew Spidey. I think it's probably my favorite look for the Spiderman characters. If I recally correctly his Hobgoblin was amazing. Even the webbing always looked amazing

[Funky Fly]

What are good non super hero comics? I'm kind of more interesting in that now.

I just got done reading The Sword tonight actually. Pretty good shit.

[Jeritron]

What are good non super hero comics? I'm kind of more interesting in that now.

Maus

[Jeritron]

I haven't read A History of Violence or Road To Perdition, but I enjoy the film adaptations

[BigDaddyCool]

Those are comic books? Never new that. I don't know...I'm looking for something that is fun.

[Lock Jaw]

You can also check out Jeff Smith's Bone. One of my favorites as well.

[mitchables]

warren ellis' transmetropolitan
brian wood's dmz
garth ennis' preacher
brian k vaughan's ex machina (okay there's kind of a superhero in it but i promise you it is not a superhero book - it's written by the same author as y: the last man so just go with me on this)
alan moore's from hell
" " " " league of extraordinary gentlemen
" " " " v for vendetta

and i second the mentions of fables and the walking dead. 100 bullets is alright, but i never got really excited about it.

[Lock Jaw]

I never really got into DMZ. Using your words, it is alright, but I never got really excited about it.

Ex Machina is good stuff as well. Former superhero decides to become Mayor of New York instead. I think it is ending sometime in the next few months. It isn't as good as Y: The Last Man, but it is still good.

Also by Brian K. Vaughan, but involving superpowers, is Runaways. At least the first volume of it. A bunch of teens find out their parents are super villains and they... well... run away. The first volume is pretty sweet. Tells pretty much a complete story, which is probably why the continuing series has never been as good.

[mitchables]

i like dmz way more than 100 bullets. don't know why.

runaways is awesome - or at least, as you said, the first volume is.

grant morrison's run on doom patrol is another atypical superhero book. yeah, they're superheroes, but they're superheroes you've never heard of and they fight villains like this one guy who is simultaneously convinced he is both jack the ripper and god, and survives on the screams of butterflies pinned to the walls of his hallways.

otherwise, give something like hellblazer a bash. even hellboy or the mask. the dark horse comic is pretty badass.

[Lock Jaw]

So do I, but to me 100 Bullets was pretty terrible.

[mitchables]

i had this motion comic cd-rom of the entire the mask: the origin saga. someone put it on youtube. good stuff.

first part:

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vXbSVjQKalQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vXbSVjQKalQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

so much better than the movie. way more violent and funny and stuff.

[Fignuts]

I disagree about Morrison's run on batman. I am biased though, because I had read all those ridiculous case files stories that were the basis of R.I.P., and I marked out about it. I think Morrison is just a "love him or hate him" kind of guy. Has a lot to do with how experimental he gets with characters. He makes a lot of bold changes, and trys a lot of new things. I like that, but some might not.

I just picked up the HC of the Batman and Robin trade, and I enjoyed it quite a bit.

[Fignuts]

I also picked up the Blackest Night hardcover, and I suggest you all do the same. I know I said in the comic group that it wasn't as good as I thought it would be, but it's still very good.

The main reason you should pick it up is the artwork. Ivan Reis is easily the best penciler in comics today, and this is his swan song. There are several two page spreads in every issue, and all of them are packed with so much detail, that it's hard to even start to take it all in. Some of them have upwards of 50 characters in them, yet every single one is detailed, and isn't just a sillouette, like in a lot of similar pieces by other artists.

Also, after reading this, and Flash: Rebirth, Barry Allen has become another of my favorite DC characters.

[Lock Jaw]

I like some of Morrison's other stuff, but his Batman stuff just never clicked with me. I have found all the other Bat-Titles pretty excellent over the past few years though.

[dronepool]

I LOVE Morrisons Batman and probably look forward to his Batman the most in the month.

[mitchables]

yeah total morrison mark here. have loved everything he's done since he took over writing batman and his other bat-based titles in the wake of winick's fucking trainwreck of a run.

[Lock Jaw]

Everything Paul Dini has written for Batman over the past few years has been gold. :y:

[mitchables]

dini's batman stuff is always gold. he knows that city so well.

[Fignuts]

Thanos Imperative has been great so far. As if a marvel cosmic event would be anything but.

Also, Thanos is an awesome villain.

[Funky Fly]

New event? Is that the big crossover now?

[The Destroyer]

Shame it's by no means certain what's happening with the cosmic titles post-Thanos. :(

[Lock Jaw]

New event? Is that the big crossover now?

Its the latest in the line of "Space Events"

- Annihilation (Which lead to the ongoing Nova series)
- Annihilation: Conquest (Which lead to ongoing Guardians of the Galaxy)
- War of Kings (Which lead to various Realm of Kings aftermath stuff)
- Thanos Imperative


But yeah, Marvel's space stuff has been consistently excellent over the past several years.


DC's R.E.B.E.L.S. is also a great little series for their side of space-adventures.

[dronepool]

http://i38.tinypic.com/v5h5pk.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/f9gr5k.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/9qw8xt.jpg

I like it.

[The Destroyer]

I liked it more in the David Finch image from the DC Movie thread. Not sure about that... ribbing, I guess. Especially in the first one.

[Kalyx triaD]

Update Supes while they're at it.

[Fignuts]

Bah.

Batman didn't need those changes. Even small ones like these.

[DaveBrawl]

I like it, except for the chest emblem. I don't really like how it sets away from the body like it does, but otherwise I like the change.

[Lock Jaw]

Dick Grayson still Batman as well? With big ears?

http://i.newsarama.com/images/bm_and_robin_02.jpg

[BigDaddyCool]

What is up with all the gay piping?

[Fignuts]

Can anyone give me the essential JLA stories to read post-crisis? Want to get into that book. Also JSA, but I have no idea where to even start with that one.

Also going to check out the new gods, as it seems to have an atmosphere about it like early Thor, which is my favorite book ever.

[Lock Jaw]

JLA, you can start picking up the Grant Morrison Deluxe Editions, which collect his stuff on the JLA.

Or if you want to go back further they have several Justice League International TPBs out now.

Honestly, not to familiar with "essential" JLA stories.

JSA, I've read pretty much everything they've been in since the 1940s.

I'd recommend that you start with the 1999 "JSA" series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Society_of_America#Collected_editions

Anything before the 1999 series is pre-crisis. There was briefly a series in 1992 as well, but that isn't collected at all. Which is a shame.

But yeah, if you like the 1999 series, you can either delve backwards, or forwards into the more current stuff.

[mitchables]

Can anyone give me the essential JLA stories to read post-crisis? Want to get into that book. Also JSA, but I have no idea where to even start with that one.

Also going to check out the new gods, as it seems to have an atmosphere about it like early Thor, which is my favorite book ever.

jla (1997 - 2006)

world war III
tower of babel
jla: earth 2
jla/avengers
pain of the gods
identity crisis (crossover)
crisis of conscience
world without a justice league

[52 happens here]

justice league of america (2007 - )

tornado's path
lightning saga
injustice league
sanctuary
second coming
when worlds collide
cry for justice
team history

[mitchables]

i will say though that the current justice league book has been a fucking shambles since meltzer left. they've gone through 3 or 4 writers since and the roster keeps changing and shit. hal was in, switched with john stewart, brought back in, switched out for cry for justice, brought back in following that, and out again after blackest night.

motherfucker.

[Fignuts]

Awesome.

[Fignuts]

Just picked up all those pre 52 books for 40 dollars. Love me some half.com

[Confused]

I haven't really been picking up anything regular by DC or Marvel in a few years but i am badly tempted to go get the trades of Ex Machina seeing as it is coming to an end.

Anybody else read it? I got the first twenty or so, then culled all my comic buying till recently.

Been reading The Boys by Garth Ennis but that can be very hit and miss.

Still have the final trade of 100 Bullets to read so i may get that done this weekend.

[Fignuts]

Some stuff I've been reading:

Avengers #1-3: Don't bother with Avengers: Prime, New Avengers, and Secret Avengers, This is the book to get. This is even better than when New Avengers first started. Plus, John Romita Jr. on the pencils is always good. Issue 4 comes out next week. Get on demonoid and read this shit now.

Avengers and the Infinite Gauntlet #1 of 4: Pretty much a more humorous retelling of the infinte gauntlet from the superheroes perpective. Or at least until thanos kills them all, I'm assuming. This is a good read just for the dialogue alone. Particularly Spider-man's

Hawkeye: We've got things under control spider-man.

Spider-man: Oh, see when there are explosions, I tend to think things are WILDLY out of control. But it's good to know this is avengers sanctioned insanity.
-----
D. Doom: You will know when doom deigns to attack you. No, I merely defended myself from a series of clumsy attacks.

Spider-man: What about the exploding wall, and all that "Behold the grim visage of doom!" stuff, and...and...YOU BLEW UP A WALL!

Dr. Doom: Yes? That is how doom enters a room. How do YOU do it?

Spider-man: Uh, through a door?

Dr. Doom: The door? Like a peasant?
----
Don't really know if this is an alternate universe or what though, because I own Infinity Gaunlet, and there are ridiculously large story inconsistencies.

Brightest Day: Up to issue 7 atm. Not a fan. Dunno, it just has really bad pacing, imo. Story is all over the place, and there is nothing that interesting. Doesn't help that I absolutely hate Deadman, and he's as close as there is to a main character in this story.

Hulk #24 and Incredible Hulk #611: Been following the whole Fall of the Hulks storyline and that concludes in IH 611, with a fight between Skaar and Hulk. Hulk actually reverts back to who he was in World War hulk, making him as powerful as he's ever been. Ending is pretty dumb though. Hulk 24 is waaaaaay better. Hulk has been the better title ever since it started and this is another example. 24 is basically the conclusion of the Red Hulk saga, and is a knockdown drag out fight. Much better than the skaar vs hulk battle. After I catch up on all my DC stuff, I'm definitely going to start picking up the trades of this book.

Only bad thing I have to say about Hulk, is that they waited far too long to reveal the identity of Red Hulk. By the time they got around to it, there was no way the reveal could live up to the build up. Doesn't help that it turned out to be one of the obvious choices either.

[Fignuts]

Also, first issue of the 9 part Avengers: Children's crusade is out, and that's a really good one too. Looks like it is going to be an Avengers vs Young Avengers story, revolving around the Scarlet Witch. I just hope they don't "redeem" the scarlet witch. She has the potential to be a really great, long lasting villain for the avengers.

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah, I really haven't been digging Brightest Day. It's such a complete and utter clusterfuck, much like everything else DC is currently doing.

[dronepool]

Avengers, Secret Avengers and New Avengers are 3 my favorite monthly "must read" Marvel books. And I agree, Hulk #24 was really cool. Despite it being very "Micheal Bay" and over the top- it's been very entertaining.

Brightest Day is indeed mediocre, Generation Lost is actually more interesting at the time.


Anybody saw the preview for UNCANNY X-Force? Looks great!

http://www.deadpoolbugle.com/2010/08/uncanny-x-force-1-preview-art.html


http://www.deadpoolbugle.com/2010/08/uncanny-x-force-1-preview-art.html#

http://www.deadpoolbugle.com/2010/08/uncanny-x-force-1-preview-art.html#

http://www.deadpoolbugle.com/2010/08/uncanny-x-force-1-preview-art.html#

[Fignuts]

Yeah, love all the characters on the new x-force team, but I'm dissapointed that x-23 isn't on the team. Never really cared for the character, but she was written very well in x-force, and I was interested in where they were going to take her, and how her relationship with wolverine would develop.

[Fignuts]

Also, Fantomax's new outfit looks like some dark jack kirby creation. I approve. Great pencils and coloring on this too.

[Fignuts]

And I agree, Hulk #24 was really cool. Despite it being very "Micheal Bay" and over the top- it's been very entertaining.


I honestly think comics these days need more of stuff like that. I love a deeply engrossing story as much as the next guy, but I feel like "fight scenes" have taken too much of a back seat.

I think they've taken a quantity over quality approach for fight scenes these days, just including as many people as possible in a shot, which while impressive from an art standpoint, isn't the same as a great one on one fight. Everyone in the pic is just in some generic fight pose. One on one or two on two fights force you to get more creative.

That's why World War Hulk is my favorite crossover from the last few years. It was just a series of one on one fights between hulk and the illuminati. And it's why I hated siege so much. How long did we wait for Thor vs Sentry? Years. Was probably the most anticipated match up in a very long time. Shit lasted like 3 panels, because they tried to cram the entire story into 4 issues. Thor vs Sentry should have been a whole issue to itself.

[Lock Jaw]

I only just recently began catching up in a Marvel comics backlog. I'm still only somewhere near the beginning of Dark Reign.

[Fignuts]

Dark Reign is all pretty forgettable, as is siege. Heroic Age is looking great so far, however.

[dronepool]

I honestly think comics these days need more of stuff like that. I love a deeply engrossing story as much as the next guy, but I feel like "fight scenes" have taken too much of a back seat.

I think they've taken a quantity over quality approach for fight scenes these days, just including as many people as possible in a shot, which while impressive from an art standpoint, isn't the same as a great one on one fight. Everyone in the pic is just in some generic fight pose. One on one or two on two fights force you to get more creative.

That's why World War Hulk is my favorite crossover from the last few years. It was just a series of one on one fights between hulk and the illuminati. And it's why I hated siege so much. How long did we wait for Thor vs Sentry? Years. Was probably the most anticipated match up in a very long time. Shit lasted like 3 panels, because they tried to cram the entire story into 4 issues. Thor vs Sentry should have been a whole issue to itself.


I agree, as much as I enjoy "quality story telling" ... I love good fight scenes in comics.... besides who could pass this up?

http://i35.tinypic.com/2pzjjvn.jpg


It's not on my hold list, but I'll be getting that,

[Fignuts]

There is an issue of justice league coming up that is basically just Lex Luthor vs Deathstroke.

[dronepool]

I like Deathstroke, I'll have to check that out.

[Lock Jaw]

Luthor is also going to meet Death (From Neil Gaiman's Sandman) in an upcoming issue of Action Comics.

[DaveBrawl]

http://i35.tinypic.com/2pzjjvn.jpg

Stuff like this is why this is my favorite thread on the board.:y:

[Kalyx triaD]

Fucking love Ed Mcguiness(SP).

Still half-n-half on 'bio-tech' Iron Man.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, extremis armor was way cooler. This one isn't bad though.

[mitchables]

all this talk of batmen protecting the globe, and things like the upcoming batman inc title which seems to back that idea up, has me worried about the impending destruction of one of my lifelong favourite characters. :-\

[mitchables]

http://i38.tinypic.com/v5h5pk.jpg


http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01006/Val_Kilmer_1006352a.jpg

i fucking knew i'd seen that belt buckle before.

[McLegend]

That specific Batman Forever batsuit wasn't bad.

[Reavant]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8037/spawn%20teaser.jpg
http://www.flash-screen.com/free-wallpaper/uploads/200811/imgs/1226642132_1024x768_spawn.jpg
http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_182_cl.jpg
http://www.aneyeoni.com/ART/Comics/Spawn/Aleksi_Spawn_dedi-jeff.626_787.jpg
http://photek1944.tripod.com/pictures/spawn.jpg
http://www.aneyeoni.com/NEWS/Aleksi_ClassicalSpawn_bazar_poster.JPG
http://www.3dworldmag.com/resources/3dworld/tdw116-spawn.jpg

[LoDownM]

They still do Spawn? I might be the only person who couldn't get into him.

[Reavant]

how dare u

[Jeritron]

all this talk of batmen protecting the globe, and things like the upcoming batman inc title which seems to back that idea up, has me worried about the impending destruction of one of my lifelong favourite characters. :-\

All of this stuff about multiple Batmen and other people (even Dick Grayson) acting as Batman is shit.
It's just a shitty concept, in my opinion. I admittedly do not read the title currently, but I don't like the concept at all.

Luckily though, I wouldn't worry about the destruction of anything. Batman is bulletproof. Even if the concept fails and wears off, which it will, Batman will always be untouchable and will return to original form and greatness. Strange creative decisions will become dated and fade away, but the core Batman/Bruce Wayne character will not.

I think that suit is pretty shit. Especially in the picture featuring the international skyline.
The lining on the suit looks horrible. Too much going on.

[Jeritron]

I guess it's just that one picture actually. It looks fine in the others where it's not so pronounced. I just can't stand the look of the blue lining and the over-sized/raised chest emblem.
The other two look fine.

[Jeritron]

All of this stuff about multiple Batmen and other people (even Dick Grayson) acting as Batman is shit.
It's just a shitty concept, in my opinion. I admittedly do not read the title currently, but I don't like the concept at all.

Luckily though, I wouldn't worry about the destruction of anything. Batman is bulletproof. Even if the concept fails and wears off, which it will, Batman will always be untouchable and will return to original form and greatness. Strange creative decisions will become dated and fade away, but the core Batman/Bruce Wayne character will not.

I think that suit is pretty shit. Especially in the picture featuring the international skyline.
The lining on the suit looks horrible. Too much going on.

It should also be noted though, that I just don't like other characters taking up the title of classic heroes. 9 times out of 10 I just hate the concept.
Even someone as close to Batman as Dick Grayson irks me. Same with other times it's done, like Azrael Batman (even though the suit is awesome. It's okay in Knightfall, but after that GTFO), or the times it's been done with other heroes.

[Fignuts]

Good writing can make any concept enjoyable. And Batman and Robin has some great fucking writing.

[Jeritron]

I agree that good writing can make just about anything enjoyable, but as far as the concept goes I guess I'd just rather the good writing be used for something else.
I just hate anyone other than Bruce Wayne being Batman.
Maybe I should give it a read just for the sake of it. I don't see myself liking the idea though. I don't want to go out of my way or pay money for it. Someone hook me up.

[dronepool]

^ When it's out, it should be up on torrents in less than a day I bet.

[mitchables]

seriously jeri do yourself a favour and read morrison's batman and robin. it will change your opinion on having other people with the mantle. the grayson/damian team is fucking amazing.

[Jeritron]

Even if I opened up to other people taking over hero personas..Batman? BAT FUCKING MAN?
That is Bruce Wayne to the death!

In all seriousness, I will give it a read eventually.

[mitchables]

i'm not as opposed to the idea of other people taking up the mantle of a previous hero - it's been kind of a dc staple for years (even silk spectre and nite owl in watchmen were successors to the title). i don't like it when its done ingloriously or inappropriately. but it's unrealistic to keep the same people in the same role for 70 years with no sense of aging or replacement because it makes the concept of time in comic books even more convoluted than it already is.

as far as bruce and dick are concerned, nobody in that universe earned a shot at being batman in bruce's absence more than dick. he reinvigorated the character. since pretty much identity crisis, batman hasn't been all that likeable a character. he's been paranoid, shut off from the league, control-obsesssed... he was off the deep end, man. grayson injected a sense of light and and freshness into the character, while damian provides the necessary wayne darkness. it's actually done really well.

[Lock Jaw]

Must... resist urge... to point out that Batman and Robin (along with most Morrison Batman stuff) is pretty bad. I love Dick Grayson and Damien as Batman/Robin as well, just the other non-Morrison books have been so much better.

Well, I guess I didn't resist urge very well.

I know I'm the only one here with that opinion though, so I'll go.

[Jeritron]

i'm not as opposed to the idea of other people taking up the mantle of a previous hero - it's been kind of a dc staple for years (even silk spectre and nite owl in watchmen were successors to the title). i don't like it when its done ingloriously or inappropriately. but it's unrealistic to keep the same people in the same role for 70 years with no sense of aging or replacement because it makes the concept of time in comic books even more convoluted than it already is.

as far as bruce and dick are concerned, nobody in that universe earned a shot at being batman in bruce's absence more than dick. he reinvigorated the character. since pretty much identity crisis, batman hasn't been all that likeable a character. he's been paranoid, shut off from the league, control-obsesssed... he was off the deep end, man. grayson injected a sense of light and and freshness into the character, while damian provides the necessary wayne darkness. it's actually done really well.

I never really thought of Nite Owl that way. I guess because he was originally introduced as the second generation Nite Owl, but since it was the first go around he's "the real" Nite Owl, and Hollis Mason was backstory.

Also, the passage of time doesn't bother me since it's always been that way in comics. It just moves with the times but the characters stay in place.
To me, another taking up mantle of a recognizable hero is something that irks me to the core. Maybe it's because of the way I view comics and mythology in general.

To me, the real life persona is just as important as the hero persona. Bruce Wayne and Peter Parker are as iconic as their crime-fighting personas to me.
I don't mind someone else dawning the costume temporarily, as part of the larger story in a one-off or something, but replacing them? I hate it.
If logic and passage of time is a concern to comic writers now, then they should just create new heroes.

[parkmania]

If logic and passage of time is a concern to comic writers now, then they should just create new heroes.

If they did that, the industry would end up either DOA because noone would ever give the new characters a try, or EVERY new character would be a rehash of something done 10 years ago (not that there isn't a lot of that going on anyway).

[Jeritron]

So if it's not broken don't fix it

[Fignuts]

That expression doesn't work as well when you are talking about art. And in comics, it leads to characters becoming stagnant and boring.

See spider-man, from the late 90's, all the way up to brand new day.

[mitchables]

http://www.spaceavalanche.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/batmanandrobin_english_onblack.jpg

:'(

[Jeritron]

I've finally gotten around to playing Arkham Asylum this week and my god is it incredible in so many ways.
Love it to death.

This probably belongs more in the video games forum, but nobody will care in there and all the VG snobs will be like "old news"

[DaveBrawl]

Yeah, it was my favorite game that I have played in a very long time.

[LoDownM]

I don't even like Batman and thought AA was amazing.