Rock Band 3 (Keyboards!!!! And other "pro" instruments)

[#BROKEN Hasney]

There's enough info coming out of this now and it's going to be detailed at E3 in less than a month, so here it goes.

When you exit the demo of Green Day: Rock Band, you get this logo:

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/174510-rockband3.jpg

(From http://www.destructoid.com/keyboards-teased-for-rock-band-3-in-green-day-demo-174510.phtml )

I'm a little pumped to see this now. Especially with all the new song oppertunities if it is true.

[Kalyx triaD]

A new toy? Oh boy...

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You don't even need to get it though, I'm more happy that there will be more potential for bands/songs as they tend to avoid the songs with a large keyboard presence, even if the other parts are still good.

Probably get a keyboard when they go down in price as well....

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The three mic logo thing will probably confirm harmonies in it like Beatles as well.

[Kane Knight]

You don't even need to get it though, I'm more happy that there will be more potential for bands/songs as they tend to avoid the songs with a large keyboard presence, even if the other parts are still good.

Probably get a keyboard when they go down in price as well....

Depends on how it works. If they managed to make it like a real keyboard, it would motivate me to actually practice. If it's just another fake instrument, I doubt I'd buy it. Still, it doesn't take anything away, so....

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Depends on how it works. If they managed to make it like a real keyboard, it would motivate me to actually practice. If it's just another fake instrument, I doubt I'd buy it. Still, it doesn't take anything away, so....

I'm thinking the same. An actual keyboard (even if it's only a two octave one or something) would make the keyboard a day one purchase.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well there's been a lot of talk of more authentic displays of music so... hopefully 2 octaves?

[Kane Knight]

I'm thinking the same. An actual keyboard (even if it's only a two octave one or something) would make the keyboard a day one purchase.

Agreed. My only concern is with the viability of an OSD for keyboards. Drums are fine, but adding one more note in Rock Rebellion helped to make things terrible (though admittedly, that was only one flaw in the game). They'll have to start limiting number of instruments as it is, and even a one octave display could get cramped fast. Though admittedly, a piano roll like the vocal track could work.

[G]

Guys. Let's be real. Obviously it's going to be keytar.


http://komplettie.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/heroes-of-the-keytar-jpg.jpeg

[RoXer]

If you didn't look like nerds before

[Fignuts]

The guitars already technically are keytars.

[G]

Given that Harmonix already teased (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/25/keyboards-teased-for-rock-band-3-in-green-day-demo/) the inclusion of a new instrument in Rock Band 3 (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/rock-band-3) -- the keyboard -- we almost feel like we've been taken for a ride. That is, if today's report from Ars Technica's mole (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/05/exclusive-rock-band-3-brings-keytar-new-pro-mode.ars) on the game is correct and the keyboard is actually a keytar. "What?!" you cry. Much like Frankie, we must say, "Relax!" because, well, we're totally on board with the concept. Just think about the possibilities (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjQSF1bFMsk)!

The Ars report also alleges the addition of a "Pro" mode "that will require proper technique, and may lead to actual skills on guitar and bass." Perhaps that mode will have some tie to the peripherals, which will all be assembled by Mad Catz, apparently, (as hinted at (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/23/mad-catz-now-principal-peripherals-partner-for-rock-band-franc/) earlier this year); meaning EA would only handle the distribution of game discs.

Though Ars' mole has been accurate with rumors in the past, without confirmation from MTV Games, Harmonix, EA, or Mad Catz (yes, we tried -- only MTV Games responded, saying, "We do not comment on rumors or speculation"), this report is still, unfortunately, unconfirmed.


Wow, I wasn't serious when I said it's a keytar. :-\

[Kane Knight]

I'm going to kill you, G.

[Kalyx triaD]

Freezepop is gonna be sweet on keytar.

[FearedSanctity]

I'm probably one of the few that think keytars are awesome, but how would one for Rock Band be any different than a RB guitar?

[FearedSanctity]

Also, knowing Acti, how long until Guitar Hero announce they've added keyboard as well?

[Kane Knight]

I'm probably one of the few that think keytars are awesome, but how would one for Rock Band be any different than a RB guitar?

If it has keys, it would be different by default?

Also, knowing Acti, how long until Guitar Hero announce they've added keyboard as well?

They did yesterday. Granted, it looked like they duct taped a keyboard to a GH controller, but....

:shifty:

[D Mac]

If this is the official thread Hasney then change the title to such.

[Kalyx triaD]

The official thread's already up.

[D Mac]

where

[Kane Knight]

Here.

[D Mac]

Then change the title.

[D Mac]

Or at least take the (Keyboards?) off.

[Kane Knight]

No wait, sorry, over there.

[RoXer]

I don't see it.

Behind that thing?

[DaveWadding]

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http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126498

- drums, lead and bass guitar, keyboards, lead vocals and two harmony vocals
- "With the introduction of keyboards, we get to bring a ton of amazing new music onto the platform, which will help feed the appetite for music for years to come." - Alex Rigopulos, CEO of Harmonix
- 83 new songs
- "it's hard to pick a favorite, but for The Doors to be making an appearance on Rock Band finally with their classic Break On Through, I love that one. And Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody is endlessly fun." - Alex Rigopulos, CEO of Harmonix
- green, red, blue, yellow or orange notes to match with 5 corresponding keyboard keys
- authentic Pro mode : all 25 keys are used
- note highway shifts left and right to cover the correct keys
- keyboard also works as a MIDI keyboard
- two advanced guitar controllers that take advantage of the Pro mode
- one a full-sized, fully functional Fender guitar
- improved animations
- refined gameplay features
- drop in and out of games
- change instruments and difficulty settings without stopping songs
- easier-to-use song menu
- "Our ambition for Rock Band 3 was really to re-energize and reinvigorate the (music game) category and advance it and move it forward." - Alex Rigopulos, CEO of Harmonix

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...nced-so-far-/1

Announced songs, out of the total 83 on disc:

2000s
Combat Baby -- Metric
Dead End Friends -- Them Crooked Vultures
Get Free -- The Vines
Lasso -- Phoenix
Me Enamora -- Juanes
Oh My God -- Ida Maria
Portions of Foxes -- Rilo Kiley
The Hardest Button to Button -- The White Stripes

1990s
Been Caught Stealing -- Jane's Addiction
In the Meantime -- Spacehog
Plush -- Stone Temple Pilots
Walkin' on the Sun -- Smash Mouth

1980s
Crazy Train -- Ozzy Osbourne
Here I Go Again -- Whitesnake
I Love Rock and Roll -- Joan Jett
Just Like Heaven -- The Cure
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
The Power of Love -- Huey Lewis and the News
Sister Christian -- Night Ranger

1960s-1970s
Bohemian Rhapsody -- Queen
Break On Through -- The Doors
Crosstown Traffic -- Jimi Hendrix

[Kalyx triaD]

RAINBOW IN THE DARK

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[Kalyx triaD]

I'm thinking RB3 will have a setting and controller that does what the new games does, rendering it moot.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

25 key MIDI keyboard, better tracklist than GH6 already.

SOLD.

[Kane Knight]

25 key MIDI keyboard, better tracklist than GH6 already.

SOLD.

What Hasney said.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Even pro-mode guitar/drums sounds incredible. Fully functioning 6 string Fender Squier Strat guitar that knows where your fingers are with no buttons?

one is a full-sized, fully functional six-string Squier Stratocaster from Fender. "It can tell where your fingers are based on technology in the neck and the bridge of the guitar. No buttons," Drake says. "While you're playing it, it feels exactly like playing a real guitar," because that's what you're doingThe other pro-guitar is from Mad Katz and sounds like a good "Teach me guitar" way of playing:

The other is a Fender Mustang Pro controller from accessory maker Mad Catz with a field of buttons in each fret. As your fingers compress the smaller non-colored buttons on that guitar's neck, your finger positions are represented in the game's display. "You can go from plucking single notes to power chords and bar chords, we have crazy stuff like tapping and slides," Dubrofsky says. "If you ever had any aspirations of connecting with the music in a deeper way ... you are really going to like Rock Band 3."And drums with 3 cymbals as well as the 4 drum pads. Kinda hoped for a hi-hat pedal, but this is cool too.

Also: For drums, three new cymbals are added to the standard four drum pads, and you are forced to play the correct cymbal at the right time. "It really immerses you more. You feel more like a drummerHere's hoping for a pro bass.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

And for that easier to use menu system, sounds good for those of us with large libraries:

Revamped song-filtering system. With the Rock Band library expected to grow to about 2,000 songs by year's end, it has grown too big for simply scrolling. With the new system, "you can say, 'only show me songs in Rock Band 3' or 'only songs under three minutes' or 'Eighties metal songs from my (downloadable) collection,' " Teasdale says. "It's a really cool way to take your full library down to a manageable list of songs."

[Kalyx triaD]

My fucking God.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just wanna remind a few of you that when I suggested the addition of a mere one extra fret set, "I'd never rest until there were six strum bars" and shit like that. Kalyx was crazy wanting a slightly more authentic experience...

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/176055-/rb3_screen_wlogo118-noscale.jpg

Designed for use exclusively with Rock Band 3, the MIDI PRO-Adapter allows musicians to use their real MIDI keyboards or MIDI drum sets to play Rock Band 3. Plugging directly into the console via USB, the MIDI PRO-Adapter works as an interface between the console and MIDI instrument, converting the MIDI messages into console controller data which the game translates into on screen action. The MIDI PRO-Adapter features a velocity sensitive adjustment for MIDI drums designed to reduce cross-talk during play. A full D-Pad and standard gaming controller buttons are located on the PRO-Adapter to deliver seamless console integration and navigation of the game menus. Ships with a removable clip, allowing MIDI PRO-Adapter to be attached to a belt, or rest on a table top or similar flat surface.

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I love being on the right side of history.

[FearedSanctity]

Sweet Jesus

[Kalyx triaD]

Sussman pointed out that you don't need to own this standalone peripheral to play the keyboard parts in songs. If you already have a guitar controller, the standard game will support that. On the flip side, guitar and bass tracks can also be played using the keyboard controller...

- SEVEN PLAYER MAX

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Special Note:

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/176055-/rb3_screen_x360_3-noscale.jpg

The Mad Katz Pro has fret buttons, a lot of them. The strum area does have strings. While...

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/176056-/Squire_Strat_HMX_Perspective_6_8%20water-noscale.jpg

...The Squire Strat will use strings completely (with special sensors to find your fingers).

[DAMN iNATOR]

Holy shit, looks like they're not holding anything back. I know Dhani Harrison, George's son was doing some consulting and helping with the early phases of RB3. Makes me wonder if the keyboard was one of his ideas that he pitched to them. If so, kudos to him.

[mitchables]

jesus christ. this game looks awesome. wonder if it will even be released here. had to go to some obscure store in a giant shopping mall to get rock band 2. has still not officially been released here.

[DAMN iNATOR]

jesus christ. this game looks awesome. wonder if it will even be released here. had to go to some obscure store in a giant shopping mall to get rock band 2. has still not officially been released here.

WHAT?! Sounds like a fucking outrage to me...sorry to hear of your plight. :(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

We didn't officially get the Rock Band 2 controllers, only the Rock Band 1 stuff.
We did get The Beatles though so we better get this stuff.

[Requiem]

Wow, this looks incredible.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The keyboard is $79.99
Game + Keyboard bundle: $129.99
MadKatz Wireless Fender Mustang: $149.99
Drum Cymbals which are "Compatible with all wireless Rock Band drum kits" (fuck you then): $39.99
The MIDI Adaptor: $39.99

[D Mac]

Wonder how strong the strings on those new guitars will be? When I get one I will be playing the fucking shit out of this and I hope they don't fucking break. That would really piss me off.

[Kalyx triaD]

I assume they'll be durable, as most guitars are expected to be played the "fucking shit out of". In any case, I suspect you'll be able to change the strings if necessary.

[D Mac]

Hope it don't hurt my sensitive fingers. I need those for masturbating.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Hope it don't hurt my sensitive fingers. I need those for masturbating.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/300/N70GK.jpg

Your left hand might get fucked still with sliding across the strings, but you wouldn't need that for masturbating.

[D Mac]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/107/1075750p1.html

Some game called Powergig, Rise of the Six String coming this fall.

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/107/1075693/gdc-10-power-gig-guitar-photos-20100308034720984_640w.jpg

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/109/1094613/power-gig-rise-of-the-sixstring--20100603015406812_640w.jpg

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, it's in the Videogame News thread.

Drums and the display in the game kill it for me.

Finding it funny how some people are accusing RB3 of copying Powergig, despite this only being announced 3 days before RB3.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/109/1094613/power-gig-rise-of-the-sixstring--20100603015313986.jpg

*shudder*

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Joystiq had an interview with one of the Harmonix guys. The main interesting point that wasn't already known is this one:

Older songs that had keyboards -- Freezepop's "Brain Power," for example -- are those being revamped for the keyboard?

We're sort of thinking through the legacy songs now in terms of how we support them in Rock Band 3. We know that all DLC and most of the disc songs will be able to be imported into the RB3 library. But in terms of how we augment tracks for Pro and also for keyboards, expect information forthcoming about that stuff. It's complicated.

Sounds like it will be added for some tracks but not all.

[Kane Knight]

I love being on the right side of history.
A shame you're not....

[Kane Knight]

I assume they'll be durable, as most guitars are expected to be played the "fucking shit out of". In any case, I suspect you'll be able to change the strings if necessary.

The latter part is likely true, Mac, but considering how often actual guitarists go through strings....I'd count on these breaking.


http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/300/N70GK.jpg

Your left hand might get fucked still with sliding across the strings, but you wouldn't need that for masturbating.

But I'm a left handed masturbator and a right handed guitarist!

Yeah, it's in the Videogame News thread.

Drums and the display in the game kill it for me.

Finding it funny how some people are accusing RB3 of copying Powergig, despite this only being announced 3 days before RB3.

Except Powergig's been known for a while, so it's not like it just dropped off the turnip truck.

Still, this is something I doubt Harmonix just slapped together over a couple of months, but this isn't exactly new.

[Boomer]

I agree with Jeff Gerstmann's thoughts on RB3:

"There's a sort of "all or nothing" vibe to the game, and I was left with the distinct impression that the next Rock Band will either reinvigorate the genre or completely obliterate it."

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I agree with Jeff Gerstmann's thoughts on RB3:

"There's a sort of "all or nothing" vibe to the game, and I was left with the distinct impression that the next Rock Band will either reinvigorate the genre or completely obliterate it."

Definatly. There is a mix of people who are saying either "yay" or "meh". They've just got to hope that the majority of the "yay" people have the cash for this thing.

There was nothing else they could do in my eyes though, unless they were just going to stale it up GH style.

[Penner]

holy shit does this look good.

:y:

[Kane Knight]

I agree with Jeff Gerstmann's thoughts on RB3:

"There's a sort of "all or nothing" vibe to the game, and I was left with the distinct impression that the next Rock Band will either reinvigorate the genre or completely obliterate it."

Seems kinda overdramatic.

[Kane Knight]

Has there been any detail on how the midi adapter will work out in terms of keys and the like? I have a decent keyboard with midi functioanlity, and if I can just use that, awesome. But how do we tell what the range is?

[BigDaddyCool]

Rock Band 3: Piano Lessons with Ms. Armstrong?

[Boomer]

Seems kinda overdramatic.

Maybe so, but I don't think its a completely unrealistic view either. Without convincing consumers to buy more peripherals (mostly to upgrade their old ones), the music game genre probably won't survive much longer. I know I'm still playing with two GH3 guitars, a RB1 drumset, and a headset for a microphone until I feel like its worth upgrading.

And as for how the MIDI box will work, I don't think its actually officially announced. Gerstmann mentioned in his article that the keytar centers on middle C, so I would presume that all connected keyboards would do the same.

[Kane Knight]

Centered on middle C...At least we got the obvious out of the way....

[Kane Knight]

Maybe so, but I don't think its a completely unrealistic view either. Without convincing consumers to buy more peripherals (mostly to upgrade their old ones), the music game genre probably won't survive much longer. I know I'm still playing with two GH3 guitars, a RB1 drumset, and a headset for a microphone until I feel like its worth upgrading.

Why is the genre contingent on sales of peripherals? DLC's an awesome model for them and expansion of gameplay modes is still possible. Not to mention there's a reason Harmonix has been pushing away from even making the instruments.

[Boomer]

Just for you, KK.

I'm sure they make a whole hell of a lot more selling us plastic instruments than DLC. Most people probably don't buy more than a few songs, if any.

Which is still a lot of money on DLC. Don't get me wrong. But the margin from profit from instruments has to be higher, especially at the price they sell them at.

[Boomer]

And admittedly, I could be wrong about those profits. But its obvious that overall sales figures in the genre haven't been up to snuff recently, and the DLC model isn't going to sustain the continued financial success of any game at this point. Rock Band has probably generated the best sales figures for DLC anyway, and I'm not sure that bringing out a disc-only game with some new gameplay modes and releasing more DLC is going to make the difference to change the minds of consumers.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/12/10/rock-band-dlc-exceeds-28-million-downloads/

28 million DLC downloads. And that was back in Dec '08

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://m.kotaku.com/5185283/one-billion-dollars-worth-of-rock-band-sold

40 million in March '09. Also, $1 billion worth of revenue.

[G]

A press release from Mad Catz (http://joystiq.com/tag/mad-catz) has revealed pricing on several of the new Rock Band 3 (http://joystiq.com/tag/rock-band-3) peripherals (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/11/your-new-rock-band-3-instruments-revealed/) -- and also revealed an interesting gameplay quirk about the highest-profile new instrument, the keyboard. The keyboard ($79.99 by itself, $129.99 with a copy of the game) can be used not just to play piano or keyboard tracks, but can also be used to play lead guitar or bass. That adds even more variation to Rock Band 3!

The Fender Mustang Pro-Guitar Controller (the one with all the buttons, not the real electric guitar) will retail for $149.99, which means that the Squier Stratocaster is likely to be ... pretty expensive. The Pro Cymbals Expansion Kit, which adds three newly-designed cymbals to the existing drum kit, will be $39.99, as will the MIDI Pro-Adapter for connecting any MIDI keyboard or drum set to your game console. In addition, Mad Catz will announce revised versions of the existing Rock Band instruments soon. Essentially, not only will Rock Band 3 have more options than ever, it'll also have more ways for you to spend a lot of money.

[Boomer]

Like I said, still a lot of money. but just because they've made a billion dollars doesn't mean they haven't spent a whole lot more on ridiculous amounts of instrument bundles people didn't want, or royalties for all the music they use.

This is probably the best article I've seen on the situation:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27206/Viacom_Profits_Up_But_Sales_Down_As_Rock_Band_Weakens.php

[Kane Knight]

Just for you, KK.

I'm sure they make a whole hell of a lot more selling us plastic instruments than DLC. Most people probably don't buy more than a few songs, if any.

Which is still a lot of money on DLC. Don't get me wrong. But the margin from profit from instruments has to be higher, especially at the price they sell them at.
Except they weren't making much money on the hardware to begin with. I know the common logic is to assume that since it costs so much, it must be profitable, but that rarely plays out.

As far as sales slowing, with the lack of a new main platform is likely to blame. Rock Band 2 specifically was down compared to the newest Guitar Hero, and while expansions weren't up to snuff on the GH side, they are expansions and nothing more.

Meanwhile, despite all that, DLC is still going strong by all accounts, even if the title has slowed dramatically. Without new innovations, game modes, etc. even announced.

The a la carte nature of the DLC makes it appealing. Platform expansions will continue to make it so. The new instruments themselves likely won't be sold for major profit. The most stripped down 25 key MIDI keyboard runs for more than the keyboard for the game by far. Even if you strip out all the features for a controller and the Xbox interface only, I doubt they're doing much better than breaking even.

Maybe with the other instruments, but considering the costs versus features, I don't know how anyone could reasonably assume so.

[Kane Knight]

Like I said, still a lot of money. but just because they've made a billion dollars doesn't mean they haven't spent a whole lot more on ridiculous amounts of instrument bundles people didn't want, or royalties for all the music they use.

This is probably the best article I've seen on the situation:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27206/Viacom_Profits_Up_But_Sales_Down_As_Rock_Band_Weakens.php
Ongoing sales of downloadable content and song packs for music games continue to sustain the genre, too, DeGooyer has argued. Dauman says digital revenue streams will continue to be an important part of the company's business models.

God Damn, even your counterargument supports me!

[Boomer]

I was well aware of that comment when I posted it, and will admit that Rock Band sustains now mainly on DLC and software sales. I said I could be wrong about the profits, and I was. Originally, however, Rock Band made a good portion of their profits on peripheral and software sales. And its obvious they are still trying to see if they can sell these stupid plastic instruments to us. I'll be interested to see how much they scale back on the amount of bundles they ship with the original shipment of RB3.

And its pretty interesting that Rock Band still hasn't made Viacom money.

[Disturbed316]

Any word on compatibility with RB1&2/Lego RB songs and dlc?

[Kalyx triaD]

All DLC works.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

All DLC works.

But it seems only some will have pro mode/keyboard/hamonies added.

[Kane Knight]

Originally, however, Rock Band made a good portion of their profits on peripheral and software sales.

False. Well, the peripheral part.

[Kalyx triaD]

But it seems only some will have pro mode/keyboard/hamonies added.

An incredibly small price to pay. Once upon a time we were happy to have DLC exported period, now they have to magically get updated? Give Harmonix a break! Nothing but great news so far.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

An incredibly small price to pay. Once upon a time we were happy to have DLC exported period, now they have to magically get updated? Give Harmonix a break! Nothing but great news so far.

I wasn't saying that as bad news at all. Just informing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Keep on keeping on, mate. 'Pologies.

[Kane Knight]

An incredibly small price to pay. Once upon a time we were happy to have DLC exported period, now they have to magically get updated? Give Harmonix a break! Nothing but great news so far.
:lol:

It doesn't take much to make Kal spazz.

[Kane Knight]

Though, serious question: Would you pay to have upgraded versions of DLC you already downloaded? Like, assuming it was a minor difference, relatively speaking.

If I could get the Queen DLC or Cars DLC with 3 part harmonies, keys, and possibly pro modes, I'd cream myself.

[D Mac]

Considering I have over 200 downloaded songs, probably not.

[Disturbed316]

All DLC works.

Thats me sold.

[Kane Knight]

Considering I have over 200 downloaded songs, probably not.

Don't worry, there wouldn't be a "pro" mode for Metallica. Also, I wasn't talking about upgrading ALL of them.

[Funky Fly]

K, gonna get this for sure, but probably way down the line. Want that Madcatz ish and the keyboard, but fuck is my closet too full of plastic shit already.

4 guitars (2 360, 2 PS2), a drum set and 3 microphones.

[Kane Knight]

K, gonna get this for sure, but probably way down the line. Want that Madcatz ish and the keyboard, but fuck is my closet too full of plastic shit already.

4 guitars (2 360, 2 PS2), a drum set and 3 microphones.

you know you don't need to buy anything new, right?

[Loose Cannon]

I play piano, so this will be cool just to have other instruments play around the piano. I am assuming it will take some time to get used to the Rock Band piano though

[Funky Fly]

you know you don't need to buy anything new, right?

I know, BUT I WANT

[Kane Knight]

I'm going to probably get the game and the MIDI adapter, depending on the final keyboard and details surrounding the adapter.

I might get a single one of the pro guitars, but that should be all I need. None of my friends even play expert, so I doubt they'll need an authentic experience. And if they do? They can get their own fucking guitar.

[D Mac]

It would be cool if this was compatible with Natal.

AIR GUITAR!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It would be cool if this was compatible with Natal.

AIR GUITAR!

Oh god. STFU before you give people ideas you freak of nature.

[D Mac]

Also air drums.

[Kane Knight]

D Mac is now stealing Kalyx's ideas. That is sad on an epic level.

[D Mac]

I was just kidding.


Really :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

I'm going to choose to ignore the shifty and instead take that as true.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Rock Band 3 Squier Stratocaster plays both real and virtual guitar... at the same time (video) (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/rock-band-3-squier-stratocaster-plays-both-real-and-virtual-guit/)

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As unfair as it is, what initially gave us hesitation about Mad Catz and Squier's Stratocaster Pro guitar controller (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/rock-band-3s-gear-priced-keytar-and-pro-guitar-sport-midi-out/) was that, well, it's Fender's second-tier brand. Despite these prejudices from our youth, Harmonix pretty much sold us on it with one pretty badass trick: the ability to simultaneously play Rock Band 3 (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/rock-band-3-gets-pro-mode-real-guitar-hybrid-controller-and-k/) on Pro Expert and rock the same tune through an amplifier. Bonus: in the presentation we saw, extra notes and added fills didn't seem to affect score. So, that just about turns the uncanny valley of plastic peripherals on its head. Just make sure you crank your TV's sound system to 11 to not be drowned out from what's likely an even worse screw-up sound. See for yourself in the video after the break (caution: a few naughty words contained within).

:heart:

[Kane Knight]

nice.

[D Mac]

<object width="400" height="225"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=12578646&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=&amp;fu llscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=12578646&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=&amp;fu llscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="225"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/12578646">E3 2010 Booth Walkthru</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/harmonix">Harmonix</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

[Kalyx triaD]

With all these instruments and how authentic they are, GH's studio mode would be better served in this game. Nice tracks have been made with that system so I'd love to be able to mess around with these instruments in a similar music studio mode. At best we'll probably get a free play, though (not complaining).

[Requiem]

This thread has been brought to you by pizza.

[Kalyx triaD]

ION's Back:

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/177974-/DrumRockerPro_media_3x5-noscale.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Gamestop preorder DLC:

* Talking Heads - "Burning Down The House"
* Deftones - "My Own Summer"
* New Order - "Blue Monday"

Of course, all DLC post RB3's release will have keyboard, harmonies, and pro-mode support (wonder if the price will raise).

[Kane Knight]

I doubt they'll increase the price.

WOO! ION!

Though now that you can use any MIDI drum kit....

[Kane Knight]

Is there any link to the pre-order DLC? I just looked up RB3 on Gamestop and saw nothing. not that I would expect Kal to actually post useful information like a source, but still.

[DaveWadding]

was posted on Gamestop Canadia

http://www.gamestop.ca/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=295924

[Kane Knight]

Ah. Cool.

[D Mac]

Gamestop preorder DLC:

* Talking Heads - "Burning Down The House"
* Deftones - "My Own Summer"
* New Order - "Blue Monday"



MEH!

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, I'm a Talking Heads fan and I still can't be arsed.

[D Mac]

Release Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010

[Kalyx triaD]

October 26, that's the day you should take off from work if you want to rock out in your pajamas (or underwear) while playing Rock Band 3 all day long. Harmonix and MTV Games have announced the late-October date as the day the game will hit shelves for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Wii, and Nintendo DS.

In addition, they've confirmed a whole slew of pre-order details. Reserve at GameStop get three free song downloads, as previously reported ("Burning Down The House" by Talking Heads; "My Own Summer" by Deftones; and "Blue Monday" by New Order). Pre-order from Amazon, get access to an exclusive in-game guitar. Hit up Walmart.com for your pre-order, get a $10 eGift card.

So there you have it. It's likely that the three songs will hit the Rock Band Music Store at some point, and will run you about $1.99 a piece. The $10 gift card you can use to buy cat food or something, and the in-game guitar might be a hot commodity as I can't think of any other way Harmonix and MTV would make that available.

[Kane Knight]

Is it really that hard to cite your sources?

Also, how retarded does the guy have to be to not think of any other way HMX and MTV would release in-game additional content? I mean, it's not like they don't already have a music store....So...

[D Mac]

Hopefully they will be revealing more of the setlist soon.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah they're usually early about it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

B-52's just confirmed via Twitter.

[D Mac]

Oh Goodie! :|

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Now just confirmed Def Leppard. 2 more confirmed tonight.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Forigner and Filter were the last two.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They also announced Maralyn Manson and Tears for Fears while I wasn't looking.

[Kane Knight]

Oh Goodie! :|

Normally I'd mock you, but...The B-52s...Annoying as fuck.

[D Mac]

lol thanks

[D Mac]

IGN:

Rock Band 3 tracks:

* Marilyn Manson – "The Beautiful People"

* Filter – "Hey Man, Nice Shot"

* Foreigner – "Cold As Ice"

* Def Leppard – "Foolin'"

* The B-52s – "Rock Lobster"

* Tears For Fears – "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"


(All tracks are original master recordings)

[Kane Knight]

So half the list is repeats from the GH series.

Hey, if I'm gonna mock GH for stealing from RB, might as well do it the other way too.

[Funky Fly]

I hear that.

[Kane Knight]

Word.

[Funky Fly]

Yes, but not to your mother.

[DaveWadding]

HUGE confirmed/ rumoured on-disc DLC list (spoilered for length):

Confirmed

1. Dio – Rainbow in the Dark
2. Huey Lewis and the News – The Power of Love
3. Ida Maria – Oh My God
4. Jane’s Addiction – Been Caught Stealing
5. Jimi Hendrix – Crosstown Traffic
6. Joan Jett – I Love Rock and Roll
7. Juanes – Me Enamora
8. Metric – Combat Baby
9. Night Ranger – Sister Christian
10. Ozzy Osbourne – Crazy Train
11. Phoenix – Lasso
12. Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody
13. Rilo Kiley – Portions for Foxes
14. Smash Mouth – Walkin’ on the Sun
15. Spacehog – In the Meantime
16. Stone Temple Pilots – Plush
17. The Cure – Just Like Heaven
18. The Doors – Break On Through
19. The Vines – Get Free
20. The White Stripes – The Hardest Button to Button
21. Them Crooked Vultures – Dead End Friends
22. Whitesnake – Here I Go Again
23. Yes – Roundabout
24. Tears for Fears – Everybody Wants to Rule the World
25. Marilyn Manson – The Beautiful People
26. B-52′s – Rock Lobster
27. Def Leppard – Foolin'
28. Filter – Hey Man, Nice Shot
29. Foreigner – Cold as Ice

Rumored

30. Blood, Sweat, & Tears – Spinning Wheel
31. Chicago – 25 or 6 to 4
32. Faith No More – Midlife Crisis
33. INXS – Need You Tonight
34. T.Rex – 20th Century Boy
35. Ministry – Jesus Built My Hotrod
36. Rush – TBD
37. Avenged Sevenfold – Beast and the Harlot (?)
38. Amy Winehouse – Rehab
39. Anthrax – Caught In A Mosh
40. Bob Marley and The Wailers – Get Up, Stand Up
41. David Bowie – Space Oddity
42. Devo – Whip It
43. HIM – Killing Loneliness
44. Queens Of The Stone Age – No One Knows
45. Rammstein – Du Hast
46. Slipknot – Before I Forget
47. Steve Miller Band – Fly Like An Eagle
48. Tegan and Sara – The Con
49. The Beach Boys – Good Vibrations
50. The Police – Don’t Stand So Close To Me
51. The Ramones – I Wanna Be Sedated
52. The Smiths – Stop Me If You’ve Heard This One Before
53. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers – I Need To Know
54. Warren Zevon – Werewolves Of London

55. Allman Brothers - “Whipping Post”
56. Black Sabbath “Children of the Grave”
57. Bon Jovi - "Bad Medicine"
58. Creedence Clearwater Revival - “Have You Ever Seen the Rain”
59. Deep Purple - “Child in Time”
60. Elton John - “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road”
61. Foo Fighters - “Big Me”
62. Grateful Dead - “Golden Road to Unlimited Devotion”
63. Jefferson Airplane - “Somebody to Love”
64. Jethro Tull - “Locomotive Breath”
65. John Lennon - “Imagine”
66. Pearl Jam - “Yellow Ledbetter”
67. Pixies - "Where Is My Mind?"
68. Miley Cyrus - “Party In The U.S.A.”
69. Rage Against the Machine - “Renegades of Funk”
70. Soundgarden - “Rusty Cage”
71. Styx – “Come Sail Away”
72. The Fratellis - “Chelsea Dagger”
73. The Stooges - “Search and Destroy”
74. The Who - “Bargain”
75. The Zombies - “Time of the Season”
76. Violent Femmes - “Add It Up”
77. Weezer - “Island in the Sun”

Rumored DLC:

BLACK SABBATH PACK 02
Black Sabbath - “Supernaut”
Black Sabbath - “Hole in the Sky”
Black Sabbath - “Iron Man”

BLUE OCTOBER PACK 01
Blue October - “Hate Me”
Blue October - “Dirt Room”
Blue October - “Say It”

Cage the Elephant - “Ain't No Rest For the Wicked”

ELTON JOHN PACK 01
Elton John - “Rocket Man”
Elton John - “Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters”
Elton John - “Susie (Dramas)”
Elton John - “Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting”
Elton John - “Bennie and the Jets”

JOHN LENNON PACK 01
John Lennon with the Plastic Ono Band - “Mother”
John Lennon with the Plastic Ono Band - “Working Class Hero”
John Lennon with the Plastic Ono Band - “Jealous Guy”
John Lennon with the Plastic Ono Band - “How Do You Sleep?”
John Lennon with the Plastic Ono Band - “Cold Turkey”
John Lennon - “(Just Like) Starting Over”
John Lennon with the Plastic Ono Band - "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)"

KISS PACK 02
KISS - “Cold Gin”
KISS - “God of Thunder”
KISS - “Rock and Roll All Nite”

SUBLIME PACK 01
Sublime - “What I Got”
Sublime - “Santeria”
Sublime - “Wrong Way”
Sublime - “Paddle Out”

THE BEACH BOYS PACK 01
The Beach Boys – “God Only Knows”
The Beach Boys – “Surfin' USA”
The Beach Boys – “I Get Around”
The Beach Boys – “California Girls”
The Beach Boys – “Wouldn't It Be Nice”

THE DOORS PACK 01
The Doors - “Riders on the Storm”
The Doors - “Light My Fire”
The Doors - “Roadhouse Blues”

The Jimi Hendrix Experience - “Electric Ladyland” (FULL ALBUM)(Crosstown Traffic on RB3)
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - “Are You Experienced?” (FULL ALBUM)(Fire on L:RB)

Violent Femmes - “Blister in the Sun”

Yes - “Owner of A Lonely Heart”

[D Mac]

IRON MAN.

Probably false then. :(

[Disturbed316]

Hot list, I just hope its true, but it probably wont be :(

[RoXer]

Can't find the Squier Strat on amazon " :mad: "

[RoXer]

Wait is it even out for preorder yet? I guess not

[Fignuts]

Some real standout tracks, but most of it doesnt excite me. Also, will we ever get Neil Young? Want Like a Hurricane so bad.

[D Mac]

Noticed that Ministry: Jesus Built My Hod Rod is on the rumored on disc list but it is DLC this week. So that says the other rumored songs might be coming but not neccisarily on RB 3.

[V]

Also air drums.
Funny thing is, the Wii version of band hero actually has this option.

Also, hate that this is going to be released while I'm stuck in England (studyign overseas).... ugh.

[V]

So half the list is repeats from the GH series.
which sucks, because if you have it on wii, (and I'm sure it'll eventually work with RB3) with rawksd you can just get all the guitar hero songs onto rock band :o

[G]

A video coming out of Germany's Gamescom (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/gamescom-2010) convention yesterday may have accidentally revealed a whole mess of unannounced tracks for upcoming rhythm/music title Rock Band 3 (http://www.joystiq.com/game/rock-band-3). During an interview shot by YouTube user GottGamesShow (http://www.youtube.com/user/GottGameShows) (since taken down), an RB3 rep could be seen scrolling through the entire setlist for the game, apparently revealing tracks from John Lennon's "Imagine" to Devo's "Whip It."

RockBandAide (http://rockbandaide.com/7488/huge-rock-band-3-setlist-leak/) grabbed the whole list before the video went down, which we've dropped for you after the break. And though we've reached out to Harmonix and MTV Games for confirmation, we'd like to point out that, for now, the songs could potentially be future Rock Band Network tracks or simply placeholder. That said, we're hoping they're not -- we're pretty psyched about the two songs we already mentioned, and frankly, it's all about James Brown.

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in!]


The Bronx – False Alarm
Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird
Beach Boys – Good Vibrations (Live)
Tegan and Sara – The Con
Riverboat Gamblers – Don't Bury Me... I'm Still Not Dead
The Police – Don't Stand So Close to Me
Steve Miller Band – Fly Like an Eagle
Blondie – Heart of Glass
The Who – I Can See For Miles
James Brown – I Got You (I Feel Good)
Ramones – I Wanna Be Sedated
John Lennon – Imagine
Big Country – In a Big Country
Primus – Jerry Was a Race Car Driver
Echo and the Bunnymen – Killing Moon
Dover – King George
Raveonettes – Last Dance
The Sounds – Living in America
Phish – Llama
Faith No More – Midlife Crisis
Paramore – Misery Business
Queens of the Stone Age – No One Knows
At the Drive-In – One Armed Scissor
The Muffs – Outer Space
Golden Earring – Radar Love
Amy Winehouse – Rehab
Elton John – Saturday Night's Alright (For Fighting)
Deep Purple – Smoke on the Water
The Smiths – Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
Hypernova – Viva La Resistance
Pretty Girls Make Graves – Something Bigger, Something Brighter
Swingin' Utters – This Bastard's Life
Dire Straits – Walk of Life
Devo – Whip It
Warren Zevon – Werewolves of London
Flaming Lips – Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Pt. 1

[Funky Fly]

Some of these songs have already been DLC or early GH songs. Still, it works. Lots of songs I like there.

[Verbose Minch]

FREEBIRD

[Fryza]

I might be the only person on Earth that is happy when they bring GH songs over on RB. Mainly cause I just don't care for the GH games.

[D Mac]

Hey gang,

Sorry for not posting this response sooner, but nearly the entire Community / PR team is showing off RB3 and Dance Central at Gamescom in Cologne, Germany.

So in the last day or two there's been a lot of speculation about a supposedly "leaked" Rock Band 3 set list. As with all rumors, it's all worth taking with a grain of salt, and I think for the most part you guys in the community know not to believe anything until you see it officially confirmed by us.

Here is our video response, the OFFICIAL reaction, to this "leak" that surfaced the other day. Please check it out and let us know what you think.

To help stem the continued flow of misinformation please spread the news by cross posting the above link to Twitter and Facebook. We're just a few fans away from hitting 500,000 followers on Facebook, at which point we'll release an exclusive RB3 trailer. Thanks in advance for helping to spread CORRECT info about Rock Band 3.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Here is the full list, confirmed.

1. Amy Winehouse – Rehab
2. Anthrax – Caught in a Mosh
3. At the Drive-In – One Armed Scissor
4. Avenged Sevenfold – Beast and the Harlot
5. The B-52s – Rock Lobster
6. The Beach Boys – Good Vibrations (Live)
7. Big Country – In a Big Country
8. Blondie – Heart of Glass
9. Bob Marley & The Wailers – Get Up, Stand Up
10. The Bronx – False Alarm
11. Chicago – 25 or 6 to 4
12. The Cure – Just Like Heaven
13. David Bowie – Space Oddity
14. Deep Purple – Smoke on the Water
15. Def Leppard – Foolin'
16. Devo – Whip It
17. Dio – Rainbow in the Dark
18. Dire Straits – Walk of Life
19. The Doobie Brothers – China Grove
20. The Doors – Break on Through (To the Other Side)
21. Dover – King George
22. Echo & the Bunnymen – The Killing Moon
23. Elton John – Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting
24. Faith No More – MidLife Crisis
25. Filter – Hey Man, Nice Shot
26. The Flaming Lips – Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Pt. 1
27. Foreigner – Cold as Ice
28. Golden Earring – Radar Love
29. HIM – Killing Loneliness
30. Huey Lewis and the News – The Power of Love
31. Hypernova – Viva la Resistance
32. Ida Maria – Oh My God
33. INXS – Need You Tonight
34. The J. Geils Band – Centerfold
35. James Brown – I Got You (I Feel Good)
36. Jane's Addiction – Been Caught Stealing
37. The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Crosstown Traffic
38. Joan Jett – I Love Rock N' Roll
39. John Lennon – Imagine
40. Juanes – Me Enamora
41. Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird
42. Maná – Oye Mi Amor
43. Marilyn Manson – The Beautiful People
44. Metric – Combat Baby
45. The Muffs – Outer Space
46. Night Ranger – Sister Christian
47. Ozzy Osbourne – Crazy Train
48. Paramore – Misery Business
49. Phish – Llama
50. Phoenix – Lasso
51. The Police – Don't Stand So Close to Me
52. Poni Hoax – Antibodies
53. Pretty Girls Make Graves – Something Bigger, Something Brighter
54. Primus – Jerry Was a Race Car Driver
55. Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody
56. Queens of the Stone Age – No One Knows
57. Rammstein – Du Hast
58. The Ramones – I Wanna Be Sedated
59. Raveonettes – Last Dance
60. Rilo Kiley – Portions of Foxes
61. Riverboat Gamblers – Don't Bury Me… I'm Still Not Dead
62. Roxette – The Look
63. Slipknot – Before I Forget
64. Smash Mouth – Walkin' on the Sun
65. The Smiths – Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
66. The Sounds – Living in America
67. Spacehog – In the Meantime
68. Steve Miller Band – Fly Like An Eagle
69. Stone Temple Pilots – Plush
70. Swingin' Utters – This Bastard's Life
71. T.Rex – 20th Century Boy
72. Tears for Fears – Everybody Wants to Rule the World
73. Tegan and Sara – The Con
74. Them Crooked Vultures – Dead End Friends
75. Tokio Hotel – Humanoid
76. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers – I Need to Know
77. The Vines – Get Free
78. War – Low Rider
79. Warren Zevon – Werewolves of London
80. The White Stripes – The Hardest Button to Button
81. Whitesnake – Here I Go Again
82. The Who – I Can See for Miles
83. Yes – Roundabout

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Oh, and if anyone has any doubts, watch the "official leak video announcement." It's tongue in cheek, and they scroll through the entire set list while doing the video.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Greatest tracklist ever. At The Drive-In <3

[Kane Knight]

That is a pretty good setlist.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I think we can all agree it's way better than the new Guitar Hero setlist.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I think we can all agree it's way better than the new Guitar Hero setlist.

GH5 and 6 have been pretty poor, but there are 2 songs on each that I would murder people to have on RB.

[Kane Knight]

Everyone but Kalyx.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

GH5 and 6 have been pretty poor, but there are 2 songs on each that I would murder people to have on RB.

Which songs?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Brand New and Sunny Day Real Estate on GH5 & Atreyu and AFI on 6

[RoXer]

Beast and the Harlot and Freebird on GH2

[RoXer]

Smoke on the Water and No One Knows and I Wanna Be Sedated on GH1

[Kane Knight]

Brand New and Sunny Day Real Estate on GH5 & Atreyu and AFI on 6
Usually, I don't hate you. That one got me redy to kill you just to make sure it never happens.

[Funky Fly]

Beast and the Harlot and Freebird on GH2

Smoke on the Water and No One Knows and I Wanna Be Sedated on GH1

Some of these songs have already been DLC or early GH songs. Still, it works. Lots of songs I like there.

Beat you to it. But it's a good thing because I doubt too many people gave a shit about GH Smash Hits, so you can play the old songs on other instruments, plus some of this shit is perfect for Keyboard.

[Kane Knight]

Beat you to it. But it's a good thing because I doubt too many people gave a shit about GH Smash Hits, so you can play the old songs on other instruments, plus some of this shit is perfect for Keyboard.

I think he was riffing on this:

GH5 and 6 have been pretty poor, but there are 2 songs on each that I would murder people to have on RB.

[Kane Knight]

Though I could totally go for old songs with Keyboards added.

[Kane Knight]

And possibly pro mode.

[Fignuts]

9. Bob Marley & The Wailers – Get Up, Stand Up
13. David Bowie – Space Oddity
17. Dio – Rainbow in the Dark
18. Dire Straits – Walk of Life
27. Foreigner – Cold as Ice
37. The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Crosstown Traffic
39. John Lennon – Imagine
41. Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird
44. Metric – Combat Baby
47. Ozzy Osbourne – Crazy Train
50. Phoenix – Lasso
53. Pretty Girls Make Graves – Something Bigger, Something Brighter
55. Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody
56. Queens of the Stone Age – No One Knows
58. The Ramones – I Wanna Be Sedated
65. The Smiths – Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
66. The Sounds – Living in America
67. Spacehog – In the Meantime
68. Steve Miller Band – Fly Like An Eagle
69. Stone Temple Pilots – Plush
72. Tears for Fears – Everybody Wants to Rule the World
74. Them Crooked Vultures – Dead End Friends
76. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers – I Need to Know
82. The Who – I Can See for Miles


NICE

[Fignuts]

Wish Band of Skulls was in this, and not GH though.

[Fignuts]

And possibly pro mode.

Yeah, tbh, that's reinvigorated my interest in the genre. Might not of even gotten this if they didn't throw that in there.

[Fryza]

Wish Band of Skulls was in this, and not GH though.

I wish tons of songs in GH were in RB, and not GH.

[D Mac]

This and Smackdown vs Raw 2011 come out on the exact same day.

[Kane Knight]

I know which I'm getting.

Which ever has more Metallica.

[Fryza]

So neither or both?

[Ermaximus]

Rock Band will be strummin', drummin' and erm...piannin' on October 26th, 2010. Check out the full setlist:

2000s:

Amy Winehouse - “Rehab”
At the Drive-In - “One Armed Scissor”
Avenged Sevenfold - “The Beast & the Harlot”
Dover - “King George”
The Bronx - “False Alarm”
The Flaming Lips - “Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Pt. 1”
HIM (His Infernal Majesty) - “Killing Loneliness”
Hypernova - “Viva La Resistance”
Ida Maria - “Oh My God”
Juanes - “Me Enamora”
Metric - “Combat Baby”
Paramore - “Misery Business”
Phoenix - “Lasso”
Poni Hoax - “Antibodies”
Pretty Girls Make Graves - “Something Bigger, Something Brighter”
Queens of the Stone Age - “No One Knows”
The Ravonettes - “Last Dance”
Rilo Kiley - “Portions for Foxes”
Riverboat Gamblers - “Don't Bury Me...I'm Still Not Dead”
Slipknot - “Before I Forget”
The Sounds - “Living in America”
Tegan & Sara - “The Con”
Them Crooked Vultures - “Dead End Friends”
Tokio Hotel - “Humanoid”
The Vines - “Get Free”
The White Stripes - “The Hardest Button to Button”
1990s:

Faith No More - “Midlife Crisis”
Filter - “Hey Man, Nice Shot”
Jane’s Addiction - “Been Caught Stealing”
Maná - “Oye Mi Amor”
Marilyn Manson - “The Beautiful People”
The Muffs - “Outer Space”
Phish - “Llama”
Primus - “Jerry Was a Racecar Driver”
Rammstein - “Du Hast”
Smash Mouth - “Walkin’ On The Sun”
Spacehog - “In the Meantime”
Stone Temple Pilots - “Plush”
Swingin’ Utters - “This Bastard’s Life”
1980s:

Anthrax - “Caught in a Mosh”
Big Country - “In a Big Country”
The Cure - “Just Like Heaven”
Def Leppard - “Foolin’”
Devo - “Whip It”
Dio - “Rainbow in the Dark”
Dire Straits - “Walk of Life”
Echo & the Bunnymen - “The Killing Moon”
Huey Lewis and the News - “The Power of Love”
INXS - “Need You Tonight”
J. Geils Band - “Centerfold”
Joan Jett - “I Love Rock N’ Roll”
Night Ranger - “Sister Christian”
Ozzy Osbourne - “Crazy Train”
The Police - “Don’t Stand So Close to Me”
Roxette - “The Look”
The Smiths - “Stop Me if You Think You’ve Heard This One Before”
Tears for Fears - “Everybody Wants to Rule the World”
Whitesnake - “Here I Go Again”
1970s:

The B-52’s - “Rock Lobster”
Blondie - “Heart of Glass”
Bob Marley - “Get Up, Stand Up”
Chicago - “25 or 6 to 4”
Deep Purple - “Smoke on the Water”
Doobie Brothers - “China Grove”
Elton John - “Saturday Night’s Alright for Fighting”
Foreigner - “Cold As Ice”
Golden Earring - “Radar Love”
John Lennon - “Imagine”
Lynyrd Skynyrd - “Free Bird”
Queen - “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Ramones - “I Wanna Be Sedated”
Steve Miller Band - “Fly Like an Eagle”
T. Rex - “20th Century Boy”
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - “I Need to Know”
War - “Low Rider”
Warren Zevon - “Werewolves of London”
Yes - “Roundabout”
1960s:

Beach Boys - “Good Vibrations (Live)”
David Bowie - “Space Oddity”
The Doors - “Break on Through (To the Other Side)”
James Brown - “I Got You" (I Feel Good) – Alternate Studio Version
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - “Crosstown Traffic”
The Who - “I Can See for Miles”

[G]

Oh cool, so it's like post #140, but separated into decades. :p

[Kane Knight]

And official, but still.

[Fryza]

And strumming!

[Ermaximus]

And piannin'.

[D Mac]

Which pro guitar to get? The Mustang or the Squire?

[Kane Knight]

Don't forget drummin'

[RoXer]

The one with the strings. Is it available for preorder yet?

[D Mac]

The one with the strings. Is it available for preorder yet?

Um, the Mustang and the Squire will both have strings.

[RoXer]

try again

[Requiem]

Mustang doesn't have strings. It has 6 strum bars.

[D Mac]

Special Note:

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/176055-/rb3_screen_x360_3-noscale.jpg

The Mad Katz Pro has fret buttons, a lot of them. The strum area does have strings. While...

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/176056-/Squire_Strat_HMX_Perspective_6_8%20water-noscale.jpg

...The Squire Strat will use strings completely (with special sensors to find your fingers).

[Kane Knight]

I think I want one of those two. I have trouble upstrumming in time on a guitar controller, something I don't have trouble doing with a real guitar and a pick.

I'm just trying to decide if I want the one with buttons, or what will doubtless be an incredibly shitty Strat.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, that was a concern of mine too. I already have a pretty great fender strat. Too bad I can't plug that into the 360.

[Kane Knight]

I have a decent Epiphone SG. I wish I could jack that in and use a controller to navigate or some shit.

[DaveWadding]

Yeah, I'd be really happy if I could just use my LP Standard.

[Requiem]

Also would love if I could just plug my guitar in and rock out.

[Kane Knight]

Weird to see TPWW in agreement.

RAWK ON!

[Fignuts]

Music brings even the most egotistical of us together. Huzzah.

[D Mac]

Creed rules!

[Kane Knight]

Music brings even the most egotistical of us together. Huzzah.

Creed rules!
Of course, there are exceptions.

[Fignuts]

Mustang doesn't have strings. It has 6 strum bars.

No the Mustang has 6 strings.

Has the price of the squire been announced yet?

[D Mac]

$150?

[Fignuts]

That's the mustang. Squire is the real guitar.

[D Mac]

Well if it's over 200 then I'll be getting the Mustang.

[Fignuts]

I would guess it is between 175-200. Leaning more towards 200.

[Fignuts]

Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but will pro mode have any kind of in depth tutorials for learning from scratch? Or is it something only for people who are already fairly skilled at playing real guitar?

[Kalyx triaD]

Pretty sure they'll have a tutorial.

I have nothing to support this.

[Fignuts]

THANKS

[Fignuts]

/sarcasm

[Pegasus Crawford]

Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but will pro mode have any kind of in depth tutorials for learning from scratch? Or is it something only for people who are already fairly skilled at playing real guitar?
RockBand 3 Announcement (http://www.rockband.com/zine/rock-band-3-announcements)
All Pro Modes include tutorials and a difficulty progression from Easy through Expert, giving you the chance to learn at your own speed.
Though Harmonix hasn't fleshed everything out with the general public yet.

[Fignuts]

NIIIIIIIICE.

[G]

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[Kalyx triaD]

That shit looks hard.

[G]

So did Expert when first starting out. Now it's a cakewalk for most songs. Can't wait to try out the pro guitar :D


that shit does look hard tho

[Requiem]

looks AWESOME

[Funky Fly]

WANT

[Requiem]

hate the fact that this whole bundle is going to be way expensive. not going to be able to afford it right off probably.. or i'll have to buy like the game and one instrument, and then buy each that i want after that one at a time.

[G]

have bundles or anything been announced? the only one i know of is the game/keyboard combo.

[Requiem]

Dunno. Just assuming it will be ridiculously expensive and that I will not be able to get most of it.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, not gonna go beyond game/keyboard, since I already have a full set of instruments.

[Requiem]

Really just want the keyboard and squire strat most of all. But as I don't own any other Rock Bands, I wouldn't mind having the full set just this one time.

[Funky Fly]

My advice is to pick up the first 2 games on the cheap and import the music over. You'll be missing a ton of songs otherwise.

[D Mac]

I'll probably pass on the keyboard and just get game and pro guitar.

[Pegasus Crawford]

have bundles or anything been announced? the only one i know of is the game/keyboard combo.
A Game/Pro Drum/Pro Guitar bundle won't happen.

[Kane Knight]

Just getting the keyboard for starters. I want to move to a real guitar at some point, but I'm not rushing out for that.

And I already have the Ion kit, so....

[D Mac]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/112/1123373p1.html
DeGooyer: Right now, a typical stand-alone song for us is a buck ninety-nine. If you wanted to buy Pro Mode for guitar on top of that dollar ninety-nine, it would cost a buck. So it's not going to be five bucks or anything. We think it's a really fair price. The alternative would be of course to include it (in the regular download) and up the price for everybody, which I don't think is really fair.

I should note that not all tracks will have pro guitar mode. (Many bands') guitar parts wouldn't rise to the level that they would need to have pro mode authoring associated with them.


So, 3 bucks per song if you want Pro Guitar.

[Kalyx triaD]

I can dig it.

[D Mac]

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[D Mac]

lol pause it at the 5:07 mark and read the message at the bottom.

[Kalyx triaD]

Bungie did that, too. Cool, though I wouldn't have minded somebody hitting the leaderboards first.

[Kalyx triaD]

How long does Activision have rights to GH: Met's songs?

[D Mac]

Dunno if the Mustang Pro Guitar has been delayed or what. Amazon has preorder shipping date at Nov. 16. Mad Catz site has these dates.

Xbox 360 is 11/16/2010
Wii is 11/22/2010
PS3 is 11/24/2010

Wonder if they will be in stores on release day. Getting this at Wal Mart at Midnight the 26th so I hope so.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

OK, got this but no pro instruments yet, obvz. But the upgraded career would be worth it for the money alone :heart:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just realised how early this came out on the net. Holy fuck.

Turns out Amazon shipped some pre-orders early by mistake.

Oh, and if you bought the stage kit, it doesn't work at all...

[CSL]

Yeah, saw this on one of the usual d/l sites last night and was surprised. You dirty thieving downloading bastard.

[CSL]

I'm only calling you that because I'm far too lazy to 'sort' it all out and download games for myself.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well, if I get my way, they'll be getting at least £200 off me in accessories, so I doubt they'll starve :'(

Gotta wait for the RB2 update to come out so I can export my RB2 disc now.

[D Mac]

IGN:

So who was announced as first week DLC for Rock Band 3?

When the game releases in North America on October 26th (and October 29th for the rest of the world), Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Wii owners will be able to download music from The Doors. Included in the DLC will be 12 tracks, including three that use Pro Mode for bass and guitar.

People who purchase Rock Band 3 in the first week and play online will also get free access to the three Doors tracks that feature Pro Mode. The free tracks will be "Light My Fire," "Riders in the Storm," and "Touch me."

Here's a full breakdown from the press release about which songs will be available, and whether or not they're free:

"Light My Fire" (Free from Oct. 26 - Nov. 1, features Pro Guitar and Pro Bass)
"Riders on the Storm" (Free from Oct. 26 - Nov. 1, features Pro Guitar and Pro Bass)
"Touch Me" (Free from Oct. 26 - Nov. 1, features Pro Guitar and Pro Bass)
"Hello, I Love You"
"L.A. Woman"
"Love Her Madly"
"Love Me Two Times"
"Peace Frog"
"People Are Strange"
"Roadhouse Blues"
"Soul Kitchen"
"The Crystal Ship"

Just remember: to get the free songs you have to play the game online in the first week. As of November 2nd the only way to get any of the songs, including the free ones, will be to buy a 12 song bundle or purchase each track individually.

[D Mac]

Hey Hasney. Since you have been playing this, tell us about Career mode.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's very goal orientated. Like "complete these warmup songs for bonus fans" bu the main part is going from place to place, starting on the subway and playing 2-3 songs from a choice of 3 setlists at 3-5 venues and your performance gets you more fans to get up the ranks.

As well as earning stars in these songs, you can also earn spades by doing certain things like have a certain streak or deploying overdrive a number of times.

Theres also little cutscenes showing you arriving, setting up or fans queuing outside. It's pretty awesome.

[RoXer]

So what the fuck, are they going to release the Squire when this drops or not?

[D Mac]

No, I think the Squire has been delayed. I read it will probably cost about 300 bucks. Fuck that, I'll buy one used later maybe, but for now I'll just get the Mustang.

[D Mac]

People still are unsure whether the Mustang will be available at launch. I won't get my hopes up.

[Kane Knight]

No, I think the Squire has been delayed. I read it will probably cost about 300 bucks. Fuck that, I'll buy one used later maybe, but for now I'll just get the Mustang.

300 bucks? Fuck, that's annoying. It had better be at least decent in terms of playability. I don't want to buy the Mustang, but I'm not going to pay 300 bucks for a shitty, unplayable Squire.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/10/christmas.jpg

[Requiem]

looks almost like she has a dong

[DaveWadding]

Apparently there's going to be a Billy Joel pack as well. another dozen songs to add to my library.

One more new project has Joel venturing into virtual competition. A dozen of his hits will be downloadable for the video game Rock Band 3, out Tuesday. "I've never allowed my music to be used in a game before," but an Entertainment Weekly review of NBC's The Office changed his mind.

Alluding to an episode in which characters mention a Rock Band featuring Billy Joel, "the critic wrote something like, 'God forbid that ever should happen.' So I called my people and said, 'Get me (on) that Rock Band game.' Then I wrote the critic, saying that every time I get a check, I'll give him a little nod."

Nov. 9 will bring another reminder of Joel's selling power with the release of The Hits, a 19-track compilation acknowledging next year's 40th anniversary of his debut solo album, Cold Spring Harbor. Included is Only the Good Die Young, recently covered on Fox's Glee.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-10-20-billyjoel20_ST_N.htm

[Fignuts]

Is that the chick from freezepop or something?

Hot.

[Kalyx triaD]

New member.

[Fignuts]

New member of what?

[Kalyx triaD]

Feezepop.

[D Mac]

About an hour and a a half away! Just read Dani California and Black Hole Sun from RB1 don't show up in 3. That kinda sucks.

[D Mac]

8.5 from IGN. RB2 had a 9.0 I think?

[Kane Knight]

8.5 from IGN. RB2 had a 9.0 I think?

Yeah, a 9. Some of IGN's criticism comes from Pro Guitar being "Dumb" and this either being a new experience or just a track pack.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Everyone else seems to love it, guitar included. Silly IGN.

[D Mac]

Well, no pro guitar at Wal Mart. :(

Guess I'll have to wait.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's been delayed until November 26th over here :'(

[Tornado]

WHAT?! Lame.

My shopto Pre-Order still says it's out in 3 days.

Bugger, as I have a halloween party on Sat, and this was the so-called "main event"

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They might be fulfilling pre-orders and not have enough stock for general release, so keep your eye on it.

[Kane Knight]

Everyone else seems to love it, guitar included. Silly IGN.

I think they meant the mode. They said something about how at that point you should get a real guitar instead if a plastic one, etc. etc. It's the same stupid "You're not a real musician" argument, only now that there's a pro option, they're bitching about how there shouldn't be or something.

Shrodinger's argument, I guess. Until observed, it's both good and bad.

It's been delayed until November 26th over here :'(

Amazon lists it as either the 16th or the 26th in the States, too.

No release date on the Squier, either.

I didn't know the Mustang could operate as a MIDI controller.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, the MIDI thing is what convinced memto drop the cash on it, considering the Squier that I really wanted is likely to be much more expensive.

[Fignuts]

What is the deal with that midi device that allowed you to plug in a real keyboard? Is that out? I play piano, and I'm not going to get the keyboard controller when I have a real keyboard I could use.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00409SOD2/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1288132336&sr=8-1

Nov 28th as well :|

[Fignuts]

Won't be getting it til then, in that case.

[Kapoutman]

Got it. I'm just thinking of getting the ION drums so I can try pro drums mode. Not a fan of keyboard and I don't really want to learn real guitar.

[RoXer]

Dear Amazon.com Customer,

The Amazon Video Games team thanks you for your pre-order of Rock Band 3. Now it's time to get you your bonus code.

Here is your bonus code: BLUE-ORANGE-ORANGE-BLUE-ORANGE-ORANGE-BLUE-BLUE This code will give you access to the Rock Band 3 pre-order bonus guitar.

How to Use Your Code:
Step 1: Insert Rock Band 3 software into your console.
Step 2: From the main menu, enter the code using your Rock Band 3 controls.

Thank you for your continued support of Amazon.com/games. ~Amazon.com Video Games Editors
:|:|:|:|:|

[D Mac]

lol thanks