TNA Changing Forver....Yeah, Right...

[BigCrippyZ]

Source: Marc Middleton

We've pretty much heard this one before, but TNA President Dixie Carter is hyping more "big" changes to happen in TNA. Dixie also wrote that she has a nice surprise planned for Slammiversary this weekend.

Here's what she wrote early this morning:

"It's 6:30 am. Been up for hours. So excited I can't sleep. TNA's about to change forever. Can't wait to share it w/you, my staff, the talent"


I doubt I'll be shocked. Although, I'd love to be wrong.

[Purgatory]

Nah, you're right. Noone will be shocked.

Even less will care.

[Loose Cannon]

I am going to change your thread title if you do not mind. I was abou to make this same thread as I couldn't tell what yours was about. But I had just clicked on yours just to make sure

yea, we've heard this 10 times over this year. Not really excited

[Volare]

I wanna watch this, just to see another ultimate FAIL.

[KIRA]

TNA "changes forever" every other week:nono:

[Xero]

ROH will invade and destroy the ring, lead by Christopher Daniels.

Wouldn't hate it, to be honest. Complete nXtWo rip off but if that were it I'd let it slide.

[Wolfpack423]

The only thing to me that could be truly shocking for TNA is if Batista defected from the WWE and joined them at Slammiversary. That literally could be the only thing that would shock me.

[BigCrippyZ]

I am going to change your thread title if you do not mind. I was abou to make this same thread as I couldn't tell what yours was about. But I had just clicked on yours just to make sure

yea, we've heard this 10 times over this year. Not really excited

It's all good man. I'd love to be wrong, but I doubt and care so little that I'm not going to tune in or even read the spoilers. Unless it get's some major press from the IWC, non-TNA marks.

[south776]

Jim Ross

[Xero]

TNA needs to do something so big that it gets non-fans and former fans (the most important fans at this point) talking. Not Monday Night Wars 2 big (before it happened), but even bigger.

Something that would turn the wrestling world upside down.

Short of bringing Vince McMahon himself on-screen with a stable of The Rock, Triple H, Steve Austin, John Cena and The Undertaker, and booked by the WWE creative team lead by Paul Heyman, it ain't happening.

[Droford]

Vince McMahon buys TNA and TNA allies with NXT in a fued with WWE.

TNXTA

WWE Squashes the alliance and then TNA ends up on SyFy Tuesday Nights.

Tuesday Night Action, only on SyFy

[KIRA]

Hmm lets see who's no compete clause is expired?

[Xero]

Can't be Ross because he signed with WWE. He can do anything but wrestling - MMA (probably not UFC though), football, etc.

I think Batista's contract runs through July or August.

[BigCrippyZ]

Has Dixie thought that by building it up like this, she's setting herself up for a major disappointment for the fans? Shock value comes from not knowing something big is coming at all, that's what makes something truly shocking IMO.

[Nicky Fives]

Moving to Monday nights..... oh wait... they already did that......

[Xero]

Has Dixie thought that by building it up like this, she's setting herself up for a major disappointment for the fans? Shock value comes from not knowing something big is coming at all, that's what makes something truly shocking IMO.

They think "shock value" is hotshotting the title to someone everyone loves and then dropping the ball in terms of momentum after the event.

[Xero]

WE'RE MOVING TO TUESDAY NIGHTS! WE'RE GONNA START A TUESDAY NIGHT WAR!

NXT! WE'RE COMIN' FOR YOU, NIGGA!

[Rollermacka]

The only thing to me that could be truly shocking for TNA is if Batista defected from the WWE and joined them at Slammiversary. That literally could be the only thing that would shock me.

Noo, they have stolen an even bigger star...
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[Volare]

Here's your big fuckin surpise.


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[VSG]

Definitely will have to be an ex-WWE guy/gal but even the Mickie James/Shelton Benjamin crew are within their 90 day no-compete period.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

It's a goldberg heel turn!

[Xero]

lol Vol

[tjmidnight420]

Russo publicly humiliated and shot out of a cannon, and Shane O Mac named the new head writer. That'd get my attention, to say the least.

[Loose Cannon]

no way it's some mid card WWE guy/gal. TNA is pretty dumb, but I don't think they would be that dumb with an annoucement like this. got to be some kind of other thing that's not a particular wrestler

[Xero]

no way it's some mid card WWE guy/gal. TNA is pretty dumb, but I don't think they would be that dumb with an annoucement like this. got to be some kind of other thing that's not a particular wrestler

So are you being sarcastic or just finding out about TNA?

[BigCrippyZ]

So are you being sarcastic or just finding out about TNA?

:lol: I don't know why but that made me laugh.

[Loose Cannon]

So are you being sarcastic or just finding out about TNA?

lol I know they are idiots, but no way she sends this text out and they deliver fucking Shelton Benjamin.

[Razzamajazz]

remember way back in early 2001 to the announcement that would CHANGE ECW FOREVER!!!11!1!!

it was rvd returning

[Jeritron]

I'm going to make my prediction here and say that it's going to be something regarding format, or the actual nature of their product that will be the absolute nail in the coffin for them.
It will be some ridiculous concept like not having a ring, or having it be in a cage like UFC or something.

Kind of going out on a limb, but I can see TNA being desperate enough to fuck with the product this badly. They seem to be crazy enough to do something like that, and move completely away from wrestling.
I think I've even heard Bischoff throw around ideas like that somewhere before.

[Vastardikai]

They're either:

A. bringing back the 6-sided ring
B. Debuting the 8-sided ring
C. Bringing back Awesome Kong for a One-Night Bra and Panties match with Rosie Lottalove.

[Jeritron]

It would actually be hilarious to see them start throwing shit against the wall hoping it will stick, in a last blaze of trainwreck glory before the end.
Doing away with the ring, getting rid of all titles, etc.

[Jeritron]

Allowing fans to vote on who is champion, rather than who gets a title shot, would be wonderful

[Xero]

They should do a contest where a group of 10 people from the IWC get to book a month's worth of TNA shows. The best script gets put on TV, untouched.

[Xero]

I've actually considered a promotion booked entirely by the IWC. Like fans write in whatever direction they should take with a character or who should win a match. The entire show being a community effort. I don't think it could work legit, but it would be fun.

[Kane Knight]

Has Dixie thought that by building it up like this, she's setting herself up for a major disappointment for the fans? Shock value comes from not knowing something big is coming at all, that's what makes something truly shocking IMO.
Hype can work, too, but even if it's a big surprise, it'll probably be diminished by the use of the same trick for everything TNA's ever done.

[Razzamajazz]

going the way of wcw: starting over from scratch

[BigCrippyZ]

As funny and crazy as all of those ideas are, sadly, I wouldn't put any of it past them. I wonder if they actually realized how bad they've fucked themselves over lately, or if they're in denial.

[Ultra Mantis]

I expect this is a 3 Count reunion, with Mike Knox playing the role of Tank Abbott and Jeff Hardy replacing Evan Karagias. They will perform Jeff's new song and announce they will be doing so after every match on every episode of TNA Impact, changing the company forever or something.

[BigCrippyZ]

I've actually considered a promotion booked entirely by the IWC. Like fans write in whatever direction they should take with a character or who should win a match. The entire show being a community effort. I don't think it could work legit, but it would be fun.

It would be fun. Hell, I'd participate most likely.

[Jeritron]

At this point they just want anyone to tune in. I don't think they are thinking far enough ahead to worry about whether they piss them off or not.
They should promise free Ice Cream if it means getting people to watch Impact now. Honestly, interest was never very high, but ever since the move back to thursdays with their tail between their legs, it just seems like they've crawled under the porch to die.

[Xero]

It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.

[BigCrippyZ]

At this point they just want anyone to tune in. I don't think they are thinking far enough ahead to worry about whether they piss them off or not.
They should promise free Ice Cream if it means getting people to watch Impact now. Honestly, interest was never very high, but ever since the move back to thursdays with their tail between their legs, it just seems like they've crawled under the porch to die.

Agreed. I watched a majority of the first Monday night in Jan when Bret/Orton weren't on RAW. I would occasionally tune in when they were ORIGINALLY on Thursdays and Mondays and every so often would be entertained/interested by something. Slowly though, the Monday night shows went down hill and I stopped watching altogther. I know I haven't watched AT ALL since they moved BACK to Thursdays.

[Xero]

Honestly, I was watching it more on Mondays than I am now. Though that was more because I was in chat and it was something to talk about than the show being good.

[BigCrippyZ]

It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.

I believe they call that panicking. :eek:

[Droford]

TNA Survivor - every week someone gets fired off the show until either they start making money or they fire everyone.

[Xero]

They call it "we're going to try to compete with WWE for no real reason".

Let's face it, for at least the past four years they've been trying to compete with WWE. Instead of worrying about what WWE is doing they should look at themselves and try to better their own product.

The biggest mistake was when they shifted from the more indy-style wrestling to more full-on Sports Entertainment. That's the mistake that's the root of all of TNA's problems. Not Hogan, not Bischoff, not Russo, but the direction of the company as a whole.

[BigDaddyCool]

It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.

If I may expand apon this thought. Also, you know what a real surprise is? Not even telling me there is going to be a surprise.

Hearing "WAIT TILL YOU SEE THIS SHOCKING TURN OF EVENTS AT SLAMFEST 2010, IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND," sets up a sense of this needs to be huge and game changing, and by this point, nothing they can do short of the immossible like bringing out HHH and Shane McMahon would do that, or killing a guy.

They need to learn from nWo, instead of trying to copy nWo. You know what made nWo great? One day Scott Hall just shows up and says "You know who I am, but you don't know why I'm here," then declares war on WCW. That is a real surprise.

[BigDaddyCool]

Hell TNA debuted Angle right. He just came out and head butted Samoa Joe. That is a debut. When you hype a debut, it is almost always lack luster.

[Xero]

Well, technically they did that video package before Angle debuted...

[BigDaddyCool]

Oh yeah.

But anyhow my point is TNA has mastered the art of ruining their own surprises.

[BigDaddyCool]

It is bad when I don't even need to watch TNA and still know everything they are doing wrong.

[Xero]

Yes they have.

The internet is ruining TNA. But not in a "the IWC ruined wrestling" way but in a "TNA is ruining themselves by being online" way.

TNA is an example in how you DON'T take a company online and integrate the community into the business.

WWE got it right. TNA are fucking idiots.

[VSG]

I would probably die from laughter if it turns out to be Lex Luger/Macho Man.

[BigDaddyCool]

I still don't really understand how TNA is making money.

[Xero]

Honestly, TNA has to learn how to keep kayfabe properly. WWE has done it when it comes to the internet. Kayfabe is alive and well in the WWE Universe. There's enough "just inside the circle" integration to make it seem like they're open about everything when in reality it's like it's a natural modern day extension of kayfabe.

TNA needs to learn to shut the fuck up and that sometimes fan involvement and social media are bad for your company. They're too transparent and rely on word of mouth in the wrong way.

[BigDaddyCool]

Why would they bring Macho Man back again?

[BigDaddyCool]

Honestly, TNA has to learn how to keep kayfabe properly. WWE has done it when it comes to the internet. Kayfabe is alive and well in the WWE Universe. There's enough "just inside the circle" integration to make it seem like they're open about everything when in reality it's like it's a natural moder day extension of kayfabe.

TNA needs to learn to shut the fuck up and that sometimes fan involvement and social media are bad for your company. They're too transparent and rely on word of mouth in the wrong way.

Surprised TNA doesn't just post the results for the next few weeks of tapes on the website.

[Loose Cannon]

TNA should just make a reality/comedy show about TNA. I would be more interested in watching the booking team trying to prepare for the next show then the show itself

[Xero]

lol a recap show where they have random non-TNA-employed guests shit on the show.

Wait, no, they should do every show MST3K style!

[Jeritron]

an MST3K wrestling show would be fantastic. I'd love to be one of the commentators

[BollywoodSingh]

TNA usually delivers when they have tease a big announcement except the few times where the surprise was the announcement of a timeslot change. I doubt this will be any sort of surprise that will change TNA forever, but it still has the potential of at least being a major announcement/surprise. I doubt it's Benjamin or Mickie James or anyone like that because they can't really tease that as changing TNA forever.

[parkmania]

The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.

[owenbrown]

so Hogan's gonna win the title on Sunday huh? that's probably the big surprise

[Xero]

But that's not a surprise.

That's not a surprise at all.

[BigDaddyCool]

The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.

Yeah, I understand TNA is to busy scrambling to make a dollar now and passing up chances to make much more down the line.

[Savio]

Ken Shamrock is returning

[Savio]

Is Paul Heyman free?

[KIRA]

Is Paul Heyman free?

Yep hoping for that or shane but its a looooooonnng shot

[Swiss Ultimate]

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[TheZman]

TNA "changes forever" every other week:nono:

[Kane Knight]

The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.

They're not thinking period. Crying wolf every week just means nobody's going to be tuned in when they finally offer something.

[The Pope]

It might be that ECW stable they've been wanting to do for a while now. (Rhino, Dreamer, Raven, etc)

[taker707]

Dixie Carter President of TNA Wrestling Just hung up with Spike TV President, Kevin Kay. He is all in and agrees this will change TNA on every level.

From Dixie's facebook

[Londoner]

They'll just copy wwe's nxt invasion in some way.

[Volare]

It might be that ECW stable they've been wanting to do for a while now. (Rhino, Dreamer, Raven, etc)

I can see that happening, since this is their version of Wrestlemania even though it can't even come par to a "In Your House" PPV this is the perfect time when every TNA fan is watching....so they can rejoice with their mark friends.

[Loose Cannon]

please no more ECW stables. that's played out now

[Xero]

It's either a new show, new timeslot or something else network related. Otherwise she wouldn't be teasing with Spike TV's President.

[Droford]

WWE Group and they can insinuate that Vince is trying to mess with TNA just like WCW did with the NWO before Vince sued them.

[McLegend]

Six sided Ring

[Jordan]

I would give TNA yet ANOTHER chance if the surprise was Heyman has joined and is writing the show. So I hope that is the announcement.

I could see it being Booker T or Scott Steiner or both back in TNA, but that wouldn't be something a Spike TV executive would cream over.

Also, I could see it being a rip off of WWE's Guest Host feature, you know the one we all love so much.

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

The word we are getting is that the big change that Dixie Carter is tweeting on her Twitter account is not something related to Slammiversary but something that is much bigger for the company as a whole.

There has been a lot of talk that the company has reached out to people to enhance and/or overhaul the creative end of the company and we can confirm that the two most prominent names discussed internally are Kevin Sullivan and Paul Heyman.

As we have mentioned previously on the site, Heyman has been on the TNA radar for a while now. The story we have gotten is that for Heyman to come in, he would need complete control of the creatiove process (or at least as much as a booker can have in 2010). We can also confirm that they have spoken with Sullivan as well.

We will have more on this story as soon as we can confirm it.
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Hmmmm...

[Xero]

From Piper's Twitter:

I am getting ready to come and entertain yo all round world..Think I will take the week off.go to rhe gym..hug my kids..help somone if I can

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HMMMMMM...

[Xero]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/c-m-punk-comes-out-in-the-jeff-hard.jpg

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

After our report earlier tonight concerning TNA's surprise, we heard from a number of people in the company stating that whatever they have planned it's bigger than a change in the creative process. As always, we will continue to follow this story moving forward.

[Tazz Dan]

Shawn Michaels is coming in to feud with Ric Flair. I'm calling it now.

[Xero]

Good idea, Tazz Todd.

[Tazz Dan]

TD Fact: James is my middle name. Because it's not cool enough to be a first name. ;)

[Xero]

James technically isn't my first name. :p

[Rev. Hallowell]

Former WWE Star shows up, gets monster push, wins title in first two weeks, loses to next former WWE star who shows up, gets monster push, wins title in first two week, loses to next former WWE star who shows up...

[Tazz Dan]

James technically isn't my first name. :p

FUCK YOU. :mad:


:shifty:

:naughty:

:drool:

;)

[FearedSanctity]

From PWInsider:

After our report earlier tonight concerning TNA's surprise, we heard from a number of people in the company stating that whatever they have planned it's bigger than a change in the creative process. As always, we will continue to follow this story moving forward.

Oh god, Bischoff didn't buy the company, did he?

[Tazz Dan]

Also, I'm calling Bryan Danielson debuting now too.

[PullMyFinger]

Maybe an Ultimate Fighter type show?>

[FearedSanctity]

Also, I'm calling Bryan Danielson debuting now too.

Even if he did get released:

1. 90 day no-compete clause
2. Danielson doesn't effect TNA "on every level"

[Stealth-Icon]

Hogan is going to be ranked number one on the viewers poll for the World Title.

[Tazz Dan]

Even if he did get released:

1. 90 day no-compete clause
2. Danielson doesn't effect TNA "on every level"

1. It was a joke.
2. See number 1

[FearedSanctity]

Riiiiight :shifty:

[Lock Jaw]

NXT will invade TNA

[Tazz Dan]

:eek:

[Tazz Dan]

Maybe they signed Steve Blackman?

[Kane Knight]

I would give TNA yet ANOTHER chance if the surprise was Heyman has joined and is writing the show.

You'd give TNA yet another chance if they debut Stevie Richards' new crossdressing gimmick.

[Londoner]

Former WWE Star shows up, gets monster push, wins title in first two weeks, loses to next former WWE star who shows up, gets monster push, wins title in first two week, loses to next former WWE star who shows up...

:D

[leaping lanny]

maybe impact is going live on thursday nights.

[erickman]

NXT will invade TNA

yeah atleast bryan

[Schlomey]

Shane McMahon is the reason for Vince's black eyes. He is still mad that the WCW Invasion angle blew ass so he is going to TNA to try again.

[Kane Knight]

Shane McMahon is the reason for Vince's black eyes. He is still mad that the WCW Invasion angle blew ass so he is going to TNA to try again.
:rofl:

[Savio]

You'd give TNA yet another chance if they debut Stevie Richards' new crossdressing gimmick.
Hey but that is a HUGE angle.

[Kane Knight]

Hey but that is a HUGE angle.
Only if he doesn't tuck properly.

[theexample]

The Warrior is coming back to feud with Hogan.....

[Stickman]

I still don't really understand how TNA is making money.

Same here.

[Volare]

Whatever the hell it is, I'll be in chat tonight laughing my ass off at another failure.

[The Pope]

Les Thatcher noted on his Wrestling Weekly audio show that he is under the impression that Tommy Dreamer will be showing up at tonight's TNA Slammiversary pay-per-view in some form or fashion but has not signed a contract with them yet. An appearance by Dreamer isn't considered to be part of the big changes that Dixie Carter has been teasing.

[teamXtremist]

i will watch to see and hopefully theres a heyman appearance

[FearedSanctity]

Dixie Carter appeared at TNA's anniversary party at NASCAR Restaurant at Universal Orlando's Citywalk last night and commented on the "changes" coming to TNA. She said there would be a "nice surprise" on the PPV tonight but that the larger changes she has been talking about won't take place for a few weeks. She confirmed that the changes are not a sale of the company to a new owner or a network TV deal.

Credit: PWInsider

[Swiss Ultimate]

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td>More On TNA’s Major Changes & Tonight’s Slammiversary Surprise
By Michael Bluth (sescoops@gmail.com)
Jun 13, 2010 - 5:51:19 PM

</td> </tr> </tbody></table> - TNA President Dixie Carter posted some messages on Twitter on Sunday morning clarifying that the “nice surprise” she promised for tonight’s Slammiversary pay-per-view is NOT part of the “major changes” that she says will change TNA . Regarding when we’ll know what the major changes are, Carter wrote, “You will just see for yourselves in the coming weeks.”

- As part of TNA’s Slammiversary weekend, the company held an 8th anniversary party in Orlando on Saturday night at the Universal Orlando’s Citywalk NASCAR restaurant. Many of TNA’s top stars were in attendance and both Jeff Jarrett and Dixie Carter addressed the crowd and shared their thoughts on the past, present and future of TNA. Dixie Carter shot down some rumors about the “major changes” coming to TNA – stating that TNA has not been sold and the changes do not involve a new television deal.

(http://www.sescoops.com/)

[Swiss Ultimate]

PWTorch has confirmed with TNA sources that former WWE and ECW wrestler Tommy Dreamer is the "nice surprise" for tonight's TNA Slammiversary PPV (http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_41922.shtml#).

Dreamer is not scheduled for a match tonight, but is scheduled to make his TNA debut as part of an angle on tonight's PPV.
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_41922.shtml

[Londoner]

:lol:

[Xero]

Maybe she's changing the name or they're taking Impact on tour.

And if she is, it would be a step in the right direction, though the latter would be dumb business-wise.

But my guess is that it's something insanely stupid, like a circular ring with no turnbuckles.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It has to be something format related, as Xero suggested. I would love them to sign Paul Heyman, and I actually think giving him full creative control is the best thing TNA can do for themselves right now -- but you don't publically announce that Paul Heyman is the new head writer for TNA, you know? It's a behind the scenes change. Although Dixie seems to get herself wet and talks about every aspect of the business.

To be honest, I'm thinking Spike TV will give them a second show so they can pace themselves a bit better.

[TheZman]

The Warrior is coming back to feud with Hogan.....


:lol:

[Favre4Ever]

new title?

[FearedSanctity]

It'll be them bringing in either Heyman or Sullivan.

Of all the rumors that Dixie has shot down, she hasn't said anything about the one being mentioned the most.

[MoFo]

It'll be them bringing in either Heyman or Sullivan.

Of all the rumors that Dixie has shot down, she hasn't said anything about the one being mentioned the most.



She said the 'big surprise' isnt a part of creative. Which presumably would be what Heyman would be brought in for.

[FearedSanctity]

Forgot about that. Well then, can't see this "surprise" being anything I'll give a shit about really

[Kane Knight]

Forgot about that. Well then, can't see this "surprise" being anything I'll give a shit about really

One of us...One of us....

[Lock Jaw]

Soooo... Unless I missed something, the big surprise was Tommy Dreamer showing up and doing nothing?

[Volare]

The PPV was pretty meh.

[Rev. Hallowell]

Found the big surprise...

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[Rammsteinmad]

TNA's gonna use old WCW Music?

[Juan]

I think the Thunder theme would be more appropriate

[taker707]

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[Juan]

that's the one

[FearedSanctity]

Soooo... Unless I missed something, the big surprise was Tommy Dreamer showing up and doing nothing?

The PPV surprise and "big" surprise are two different things

[Rammsteinmad]

The big surprise, is that there will be a big surprise.

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

The word going around at the PPV last night was that Dixie Carter has not told anyone what the surprise that will change the company is. She is playing it very close to the vest. No one in the company has any idea what it is.

I got an anonymous email today (which I obviously can't confirm but found interesting enough to comment on) that said that the change would be that TNA would be dropping their PPVs and instead doing live specials on SpikeTV instead. I want to make it clear that I can not confirm that but do think that it would be an interesting and good move for the company to make, as long as Spike paid them appropriately for the shows. If TNA aired monthly three hour pure wrestling shows, it could be the thing they need to appeal to new viewers and could help them sell more house show tickets and merchandise.

Again, there is no factual basis to this at this time, I just think it would be a bold an interesting move if TNA were to decide to make it.

[BigCrippyZ]

From PWInsider:

The word going around at the PPV last night was that Dixie Carter has not told anyone what the surprise that will change the company is. She is playing it very close to the vest. No one in the company has any idea what it is.

I got an anonymous email today (which I obviously can't confirm but found interesting enough to comment on) that said that the change would be that TNA would be dropping their PPVs and instead doing live specials on SpikeTV instead. I want to make it clear that I can not confirm that but do think that it would be an interesting and good move for the company to make, as long as Spike paid them appropriately for the shows. If TNA aired monthly three hour pure wrestling shows, it could be the thing they need to appeal to new viewers and could help them sell more house show tickets and merchandise.

Again, there is no factual basis to this at this time, I just think it would be a bold an interesting move if TNA were to decide to make it.

Interesting idea. Although, I'm not sure how beneficial this will be to the organization as a whole.

[Xero]

I can't imagine that TNA does anywhere near good PPV numbers. And if that's the case, then it makes complete sense.

Though I think they should adopt the old WWF PPV model of 4 PPVs a year.

[The Ravishing One]

Though I think they should adopt the old WWF PPV model of 4 PPVs a year.
:y:

[BigCrippyZ]

I can't imagine that TNA does anywhere near good PPV numbers. And if that's the case, then it makes complete sense.

Though I think they should adopt the old WWF PPV model of 4 PPVs a year.

Oh I agree, and doubt they get very little in the way of PPV buys. I just don't see Spike wanting or agreeing to pay them for their "new" free PPV's on the network. In the short term it won't help them financially but in the long term it may be a great idea. I think the 4 PPV/year model could also work.

[erickman]

I can't imagine that TNA does anywhere near good PPV numbers. And if that's the case, then it makes complete sense.

Though I think they should adopt the old WWF PPV model of 4 PPVs a year.

yeah that would be the way to do it keep summerslam the october one the cage one and have one in jan. wwe needs to cut half of there ppvs too that way people would be more likely to order them.

[blak23]

id watch if that rumor were true

[Jonathan KoЯn]

Free PPVs? Sign me up mayne

[Verbose Minch]

The free PPV idea would actually draw in viewers. Hell, I would watch it every month, or however often they would air them.

It'd definitely be awesome.

[The Pope]

Awesome!

[taker707]

Perfect idea

[Kane Knight]

Has TNA changed forever yet?

[Londoner]

probably

[Londoner]

lol

[Kane Knight]

This just in: TNA has changed forever.

[VSG]

Vintage change for forever!

[Juan]

Has TNA changed forever yet?

http://wwecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ecw-tommy-dreamer.jpg

[VSG]

Funny how every time someone big in WWE goes to TNA and everyone starts to make fun of him/her and complains how pathetic they are now. With the exception of Angle, I think Dreamer deserves our respect no matter how TNA handles him.

[Juan]

That's not a soap box I see, is it?

[VSG]

http://lastprice.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/soapbox.jpg ??

[Rev. Hallowell]

A free PPV each year may be the first good idea taken from WCW (Clash of the Champions)

[Kane Knight]

Funny how every time someone big in WWE goes to TNA and everyone starts to make fun of him/her and complains how pathetic they are now. With the exception of Angle, I think Dreamer deserves our respect no matter how TNA handles him.

Blind support is idiotic.

[VSG]

Blind support is idiotic.

If you are against it, then I must be right. Or is this blind justification?

[PullMyFinger]

Saw this somewhere else.

According to two representatives, one of General Nutrition Centers (GNC) and one of Sirius XM Satellite Radio who works with the health and nutrition juggernaut, GNC may be looking to invest and perhaps, buy out Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA Entertainment).

TNA is currently owned by Panda Energy, which is ran by Bob Carter, father of TNA President Dixie Carter.

Over the last few weeks, Dixie Carter has "tweeted" and "Facebooked" about major changes coming for TNA within the next month or so. PWInsider.com has reported the rumor of TNA ditching most, if not all of the company's pay-per-view events in favor of monthly televised specials on Spike TV, home of current flagship program, "Impact."

Carter has hinted that the major changes she has the Internet buzzing about are gradual ones that will be noticeable as time goes by. With the amount of money the company has lost via low buyrates, marketing on a failed move to Monday nights, as well as an excess of talent that are questionable at best in terms of drawing power, cutting the operating costs of running pay-per-view events every month would partially heal the wounds of TNA's mistakes.

A new investor or majority owner could completely heal TNA, at least financially. It is not that Bob Carter is broke. It is the fact that he may not want a company that loses money, specifically his, any longer on his portfolio.

TNA superstar Kurt Angle commented on his Facebook fanpage the following on Monday afternoon:

"Tom Dowd sighting. The CEO of GNC was reported to be hanging backstage with tna wrestlers. Could be promising for tna and Angefoods(wink, wink)."

Angle Foods, LLC is Angle's food company that distributes meals that improve people's intake of carbs, key fibers, and overall health.

The Sports Courier.

[Lock Jaw]

There is an Angle Foods and I am not aware of it?

From now on I will only eat Kurt Angle Approved Meals.

[The Pope]

Taz: That's gonna be off the chain"

[PullMyFinger]

MUSCLE MILK!!!!!!!! HGH!!!!!!!!!!!!! PROTEIN!!!!!!!!! TNA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vastardikai]

I would like to state that one thing they could do is, I dunno, Tour.

The Impact Tapings make them no money, except for Merchandise, maybe.

All I can see them doing from dropping PPV is losing the little bit of revenue the PPVs does in fact garner them.

[CSL]

Funny how every time someone big in WWE goes to TNA and everyone starts to make fun of him/her and complains how pathetic they are now. With the exception of Angle, I think Dreamer deserves our respect no matter how TNA handles him.

The laughable part isn't Dreamer himself, it's TNA hiring him. If they're planning on using him regularly, the spot they've given to him could easily have gone to a young guy with some potential who actually has a chance of progressing and maybe helping TNA out down the line, instead of Dreamer, who doesn't have anything notable to offer on-screen in professional wrestling in 2010. I'm guessing he'll have a few meaningless matches in a forgettable program and then they'll lose interest. But I guess anything else just wouldn't be TNA.

[CSL]

I like Tommy Dreamer and have all the respect in the world for him, he probably has a lot to offer 'behind the scenes'. But nobody has really cared about him since before the millenium and he's not about to start making anybody any money.

[The Show Off]

TNA is so much more entertaining atm. Agree or disagree? Impact is the only wrestling show I actually look forward to watch on a weekly basis. Not trying to say they are wrong but jeeez....WWE are stupid.

I like Impact more than Raw. I'm probably the only poster on here that's not a rookie that thinks so.

Most people here hate TNA. Their hate has reason to it, I just disagee. That's not to say I think TNA is without flaws, TNA has many flaws. The way I look at it though is when WWE is at its best it's better than TNA at its best. When WWE is at it's worst it's boring, when TNA is at its worst it's at least a vaguely interesting cluster fuck.

Most people that dislike TNA is because cluster fucks frustrate them more them that WWE's dull booking. Which is another thing I understand I diagree.

I just think that WWE is boring more time per show than TNA is a cluster fuck per show. That is why I like TNA better than WWE.

In saying all that I like all WWE and TNA shows very much, if I didn't I wouldn't watch them. I still get enjoyment out of WWE and TNA.

Most people here like to bitch about TNA more than they like to watch it.

Come to think of it most people here bitch about TNA more than they watch it.

[The Show Off]

The laughable part isn't Dreamer himself, it's TNA hiring him. If they're planning on using him regularly, the spot they've given to him could easily have gone to a young guy with some potential who actually has a chance of progressing and maybe helping TNA out down the line, instead of Dreamer, who doesn't have anything notable to offer on-screen in professional wrestling in 2010. I'm guessing he'll have a few meaningless matches in a forgettable program and then they'll lose interest. But I guess anything else just wouldn't be TNA.

I'm a big TNA fan and I agree with this post 100%.

[Kane Knight]

If you are against it, then I must be right. Or is this blind justification?

I hope it's you intentionally being ironic. Point still stands.

[Londoner]

The laughable part isn't Dreamer himself, it's TNA hiring him. If they're planning on using him regularly, the spot they've given to him could easily have gone to a young guy with some potential who actually has a chance of progressing and maybe helping TNA out down the line, instead of Dreamer, who doesn't have anything notable to offer on-screen in professional wrestling in 2010. I'm guessing he'll have a few meaningless matches in a forgettable program and then they'll lose interest. But I guess anything else just wouldn't be TNA.

Its even more funny due to the fact they're going on about 'tna changing forever' atm, i know Dreamer isn't part of that 'plan' but its still laughable. If they really want to change forever they need to stop signing old wrestlers that wont make a difference.

[Kane Knight]

This just in: Dixie Carter announces she has changed the face of TNA forever by switching her car insurance to Geico.

Geico: Fifteen minutes talking with our sales reps is less painful than a night of Impact.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Signing Tommy Dreamer is pretty...meh. And I like Dreamer. I think he can still go in the ring, and that he can cut a promo better than most. But, other than bringing him in as a road agent, I just can't think of anything for Dreamer to do that isn't hard work to really get over in today's day and age. I'd rather see them get D'Lo Brown out from behind the scenes.

As for TNA allegedly dropping PPVs -- I think this is a good move. Apparently TNA's PPV buyrates are pretty terrible. Going forward with PPVs is probably not making them enough money to really justify the venture at this point in time. And if they do the same sort of stuff for free on Spike TV, then I can see even the most sceptic person checking out TNA. I mean, it doesn't cost them anything, right? Good will shall come if TNA gives us matches like Kurt Angle vs. Kazarian on free television.

This could also be the biggest way to dent the WWE. I'm not sure how much the WWE relies on PPVs -- but if TNA aired their free live specials on the same day as a PPV like Bragging Rights -- I can imagine a lot of people going for the free special.

I do agree that TNA should keep a few PPVs a year, though. They need to make money somehow, right? I'd keep Bound For Glory, Slammiversary and Lockdown as PPV concepts. Maybe a fourth, but that might feel forced. Build up each PPV like something that *MUST* be bought. That alone isn't enough for TNA to get out of the gutter, but if you pair that with new creative direction and business plan, than it might be a stepping stone for TNA.

[parkmania]

Stolen form a poster on another site:

They're debuting a brand new, 20 feet off the ground, 2 sided ring. Technically there are still 4 sides, but 2 of those sides have no ropes. so if you throw your opponent in the right direction, they will fly out of the ring and into a large tub of rabid capybara.

[tjmidnight420]

Stolen form a poster on another site:

They're debuting a brand new, 20 feet off the ground, 2 sided ring. Technically there are still 4 sides, but 2 of those sides have no ropes. so if you throw your opponent in the right direction, they will fly out of the ring and into a large tub of rabid capybara.

Totally removes any sense of psychology, but I'd probably watch.

[The Pope]

Me too

[BigDaddyCool]

Totally removes any sense of psychology, but I'd probably watch.

Cause TNA has a sense of psychology now.

[tjmidnight420]

Cause TNA has a sense of psychology now.

You got a point BDC.

[BigDaddyCool]

The sad part is I know what is going on to this day without even watching. TNA pisses me off because of all the potnetial it has. Like your brother or friend who alway did well in school and you know is smart and could go on to do anything. But all they do is sit around eating hotpockets and bitching about how the establishment sucks while conforming to the establishment. TNA you can truly be better than this, maybe it is time you crossed the line and start being awesome.

[tjmidnight420]

The sad part is I know what is going on to this day without even watching. TNA pisses me off because of all the potnetial it has. Like your brother or friend who alway did well in school and you know is smart and could go on to do anything. But all they do is sit around eating hotpockets and bitching about how the establishment sucks while conforming to the establishment. TNA you can truly be better than this, maybe it is time you crossed the line and start being awesome.

My thoughts exactly.

[Londoner]

The sad part is I know what is going on to this day without even watching. TNA pisses me off because of all the potnetial it has. Like your brother or friend who alway did well in school and you know is smart and could go on to do anything. But all they do is sit around eating hotpockets and bitching about how the establishment sucks while conforming to the establishment. TNA you can truly be better than this, maybe it is time you crossed the line and start being awesome.

Don't worry, they're changing forever i heard.

[BigDaddyCool]

Going out of business?

[Blind-Rage]

The sad part is I know what is going on to this day without even watching. TNA pisses me off because of all the potnetial it has. Like your brother or friend who alway did well in school and you know is smart and could go on to do anything. But all they do is sit around eating hotpockets and bitching about how the establishment sucks while conforming to the establishment. TNA you can truly be better than this, maybe it is time you crossed the line and start being awesome.

Very Very true!

[tjmidnight420]

Very Very true!

Weren't you pimping TNA like it was the greatest thing ever earlier today? :wtf:

[Blind-Rage]

Weren't you pimping TNA like it was the greatest thing ever earlier today? :wtf:

Pay attention I stated earlier it needed to be tweeked. Let me explain again TNA needs some work it will come in time but they are a hell of alot better than boring old wwe right now. My opinion, no one else influences me. I don't bash because evryone else is doing it. That is why I watch TNA and dvr Raw. It does nothing for me now. Understand? :nono:

[Razzamajazz]

Pay attention I stated earlier it needed to be tweeked. Let me explain again TNA needs some work it will come in time but they are a hell of alot better than boring old wwe right now. My opinion, no one else influences me. I don't bash because evryone else is doing it. That is why I watch TNA and dvr Raw. It does nothing for me now. Understand? :nono:

my head asplode



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[tjmidnight420]

Pay attention I stated earlier it needed to be tweeked. Let me explain again TNA needs some work it will come in time but they are a hell of alot better than boring old wwe right now. My opinion, no one else influences me. I don't bash because evryone else is doing it. That is why I watch TNA and dvr Raw. It does nothing for me now. Understand? :nono:

So why do you feel the need to knock the fine people here that think otherwise? Aren't they entitled to their opinion? So then why do you bash? Just cause you're a troll? Yeah I'll say it again, that gimmick is taken around here.

[Blind-Rage]

who is bashing who. No gimmicks here pal just opinions

[Londoner]

So why do you feel the need to knock the fine people here that think otherwise? Aren't they entitled to their opinion? So then why do you bash? Just cause you're a troll? Yeah I'll say it again, that gimmick is taken around here.

Good work, troll hunter.

[tjmidnight420]

who is bashing who. No gimmicks here pal just opinions

Why do people continue to berate TNA? It is the best out of the big 2! I have been watching wrestling for over 30yrs and seen alot. The WWE lost it just before it went pg-13. So people would rather see stupid skits,like the A-Team segment,and stupid dance offs? The NXT storyline is just a updated NWO(boring!!!)WWE is pure garbage right now. I watch the WWE by fast fowarding my dvr. Stop being sheeple to the WWE. TNA needs some tweaks before you fickle fans will watch:foc:

But you don't bash, RIGHT?? :mad:

[owenbrown]

This just in: Dixie Carter announces she has changed the face of TNA forever by switching her car insurance to Geico.

Geico: Fifteen minutes talking with our sales reps is less painful than a night of Impact.

This just in: The Geico Gecko has been named the new TNA Global Champion

[Blind-Rage]

But you don't bash, RIGHT?? :mad:

Still no bashing here. Just opinions

[Jonathan KoЯn]

My opinion is that Rob Terry sucks but is better than Cena

[Kane Knight]

Going out of business?

They didn't say changing for the better, BDC. :roll:

[The Pope]

I like Impact more than Raw. I'm probably the only poster on here that's not a rookie that thinks so.

Nope, you forgot me

[CSL]

My opinion is that Rob Terry sucks but is better than Cena

It's hard work making the most ridiculous statement on any given day on TPWW.net/forums but you may have had it locked down before 11am.

[erickman]

i think alot of people on here like impact better then raw, it is just cool to bash tna, we go off on the crap wwe puts out, but it is more fun to goof on tna.

[Kane Knight]

Cena is the figurehead for WWE, and WWE sucks. Urgo, Cena Sucks. Ipso Fatso.

[CSL]

i think alot of people on here like impact better then raw, it is just cool to bash tna, we go off on the crap wwe puts out, but it is more fun to goof on tna.

I dunno. 'Hilarious jokes' about Matt Hardy, hating Rey Mysterio, tears when John Cena wins etc seem to be the apparent 'cool' thing to do. I think people lay into TNA because TNA are fucking backwards.

[Kane Knight]

"It's cool to hate" is the last refuge of a retard, anyway.

[Kane Knight]

I really wanted TNA to succeed, for the record. But I've given them second chance after second chance, and they've let me down consistently. And honestly, I think WWE's still somewhat enjoyable, while TNA is rarely so. I want TNA to step it up, but it seems like the same deal every couple of weeks. Hence the widely held skepticism at tNA changing forever.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

what if tna's big surprise really is shane mcmahon?

[CSL]

I would eat my laptop.

[CSL]

And my bed.

[Swiss Ultimate]

When is this going to happen?

[The Pope]

Who knows.... Probably the ECW stable though.

[Mooияakeя™]

I would like to know this also. I guess someone will create a thread cos I have no idea of the TV schedules over here. On that note. CSL. PM.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Okay, has it happened yet?

[tjmidnight420]

They gave up and decided to pretend to be ECW instead.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Dixie Carter has failed me for the last time...

[Loose Cannon]

^lol