Better Wrestler #159

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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The Rock


VS


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Vader



3 days!

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Better Wrestler All Time Records (http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102087)

[The Mackem]

Rock should go straight in for beating Blackman.

[Nicky Fives]

I enjoy Vader's work a lot..... but there is no way...... AND THE ROCK MEANS, NO WAY..... that he will beat The People's Champ.

[VSG]

Despite my status, right now its the Rock's time.

[jskinnyg]

I liked Vader back in the day... But C'mon... 1) Fat people can't beat the Rock... 2) Rock's Promos can beat the S*** out of Vader...

[Rammsteinmad]

The Rock.

Vader was great for a guy his size, but no way is he better than the Rock.

[XCaliber]

Well it's time...


it's time...


IT'S ROCKY TIME!

[thedamndest]

I would rather watch a Vader match than a Rock match. I would rather listen to a Rock promo than a Vader promo. I voted based on the time I would spend watching.

[Lock Jaw]

Loved Vader but The Rock is The Rock.

[Seth82]

gotta go with Vader

his matches with Sting and Flair are great

[The Pope]

He can take that mask, shine it off, turn it side ways and stick it straight up his roody pooh,CANDY ASS!

[Joesgonnakillyou]

Poor Vader, He deserves to be doing better than he is.

I still voted for The Rock...

[Rollermacka]

I was looking at the Better Wrestler poll and had a very dificult decision to make between Vader and The Rock. What I wanted to ask was who do you think did/ gave more to professional wrestling? I think that if the Rock had stuck around he could have "won more championships that Flair", but Vader helped put guys over durring the end of his career and still trains his son today. I gotta go with Vader.

[Innovator]

Rock made more money.

[VSG]

During the respective career, there is no doubt that The Rock gave more to the business than Vader. Post-career though, it is a different story as you pointed out. Is it really fair to compare the two? Not really, but then most of the match-up's in Better Wrestler will be in the same situation.

[Razzamajazz]

vader is still wrestling, the rock is not

/thread

[Xero]

Without a doubt and no matter how much I love Vader, I have to go with Rock.

[Seth82]

Vader def. gave more to the biz

the fact that Rock is winning the better wrestler poll is a travesty

Vader was a huge star in japan and in WCW as a monster heel

The Rock was a huge star all of 3 or 4 yrs while Vader has been a star for 20 plus yrs

[jskinnyg]

Rock was a much bigger Star than Vader, however I think that Vader has given more to the overall "Business" of wrestling... Rock had popularity more on the entertainment side... Vader continues to give to the business he loves as well, The Rock hasn't done too much for wrestling as of late...

[Lock Jaw]

Vader gave more to the business, but The Rock did more FOR the business.

[Hanso Amore]

He did it for the Rock

[Emperor Smeat]

For a "big man" style wrestler, Vader was very agile especially with having moves coming from the top rope compared to the traditional WCW/WWF definition of a mat-based "big man".

The Rock was the complete package in terms of a wrestler where his promos and selling of a match helped offset his limited wrestling ability.

[jskinnyg]

Vader gave more to the business, but The Rock did more FOR the business.

You said it better than I did...

[XCaliber]

The Rock did more for the business at least in the short term.

[Nicky Fives]

I honestly don't see how this can even be debated... I love Vader as much as the nexct guy, but Rock was the most over person in an entire company (2000) and I don't think the same can be said about Vader.....

[Shadrick]

Yeah I obviously gotta go with the Brahma Bull on this one.

[Razzamajazz]

the question is who GAVE more, not who drew more

Vader has obviously devoted more of his life to it and arguably can be considered as famous as the rock

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

Well it's time...


it's time...


IT'S ROCKY TIME!

:lol:,You beat me to it!

[CSL]

Which universe are you living in where Vader can 'arguably be considered as famous as The Rock'?

[Razzamajazz]

i mean in the wrestling world, fuck that movie star shit

[Jeritron]

Even still, no way. Part of being famous outside of wrestling means that everyone in the wrestling community automatically recognizes The Rock as well.
Try plucking some random fans out of tonight's Raw crowd and asking them about Vader.

Vader is big within the wrestling world, but still not near The Rock

[tna]

Rock!!

[Skippord]

Vader was awesome when I was a kid and also on Boy Meets World

but I can't vote against The Rock

[Supreme Olajuwon]

why dont you fucks just talk about this in the better wrestler thread you fucks

[Nark Order]

I voted for Vader because I have a shirt with his face on it. I hope this helps.

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOL, Narc. Yeah, tough call, but I ultimately ended up going with Rock.

[Skippord]

The Rock, and might I add duh

[Jeritron]

Who gave who the business?

[James Steele]

Which universe are you living in where Vader can 'arguably be considered as famous as The Rock'?

Japan. Weird people.

[DLVH84]

VADER ICHIBAN!!!

[St. Jimmy]

Vader by a mile.

[Destor]

i`m a HUGE vader fan. the rock on the other hand i view pretty much the same way i view cena. awful jokes and a fuck ton of catchphrase stole the hearts of kids, and made a bunch of money because of it.

[Tazz Dan]

vader is still wrestling, the rock is not

<s>/thread</s>

Vader gave more to the business, but The Rock did more FOR the business.

/thread

[Tazz Dan]

why dont you fucks just talk about this in the better wrestler thread you fucks

I refuse to talk in any better wrestler thread until better tag-team returns.

[Anybody Thrilla]

OH NO WHAT HAVE I DONE????

[Razzamajazz]

/thread

that was a response to the question of who gave more to the business, a different thread altogether, so you actually reinforced my statement.

combining the two threads makes me feel all weird and confused..... :(

[The Gold Standard]

People actually think Vader is better than The Rock?

IMO, The Rock is one of the best all time.

[RiX1024]

Rocky all the way!