Better Wrestler #165 *Hall of Fame Round*

[Supreme Olajuwon]

One more victory and the Hitman is in the Hall of Fame. Who could possibly stop him? Who? WHO? WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
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Bret "Hitman" Hart

VS.

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"Nature Boy" Ric Flair

3 DAYS

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon (44-21)</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option><option>#130. Randy Savage vs. Roddy Piper (55-27)</option><option>#131. Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (35-29)</option><option>#132. Rick Martel vs. Shane Douglas (29-36)</option><option>#133. Shane Douglas vs. Rhino (35-38)</option><option>#134. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (30-36)</option><option>#135. Jeff Jarrett vs. Mike Rotunda (30-38)</option><option>#136. Mike Rotunda vs. Chris Kanyon (44-24)</option><option>#137. Mike Rotunda vs. Barry Windham (38-17)</option><option>#138. Mike Rotunda vs. Scott Hall (11-63)</option><option>#139. Scott Hall vs. Goldberg (60-17)</option><option>#140. Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash (47-31)</option><option>#141. Scott Hall vs. Brian Pillman (44-34)</option><option>#142. Scott Hall vs. Edge (26-64)</option><option>#143. Edge vs. Matt Hardy (71-12)</option><option>#144. Edge vs. Arn Anderson (38-34)</option><option>#145. Edge vs. Randy Orton (45-36)</option><option>#146. Edge vs. Triple H (29-47)</option><option>#147. Triple H vs. Batista (65-8)</option><option>#148. Triple H vs. Raven (54-25)</option><option>#149. Triple H vs. Ricky Steamboat (44-43)</option><option>#150. Triple H vs. Eddie Guerrero (43-56)</option><option>#151. Eddie Guerrero vs. Trish Stratus (58-12)</option><option>#152. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Great Muta (47-11)</option><option>#153. 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Better Wrestler All Time Records (http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102087)

[4 knuckles up]

How Flair isn't in already I'll never know.

Still, I voted for Bret, because he was my favourite as a kid- Watching him on RAW has been fun- Where as I hear about Flair in TNA pissing all over his WWE send-off and it makes me :(

[Jimmy Cones]

Oh wow, I can't believe that just happened. The shit has hit the fan people. I need to think about this one for a while.

[The Fugitive]

I don't think there's much to think about. WOOOOOO!

[Seth82]

definitely gonna go with Ric Flair

[Skippord]

I don't like Ric Flair

[Ermaximus]

Just get Bret into the HOF already.

[Rammsteinmad]

I like Flair and all, but I've always enjoyed Bret's matches more. So Hart it is.

[Tazz Dan]

Bret

[Schlomey]

I voted Bret. Flair has put on the same match for 20 years with only random moments of awesomeness. Yeah the dude is a legend and I respect him but Hart was way more versatile in the ring and a little less formulaic.

[Nark Order]

I voted Bret. Flair has put on the same match for 20 years with only random moments of awesomeness.

I hope you get struck by fucking lightning for such blasphemy.

[Biggz]

Bret.

[Nark Order]

Ric Flair is the second greatest professional wrestler of all time. (The first being Savage, IMO) Bret is probably in my top 15, but not in my top 5 like alot of guys on here. But, then again, I'm just one of those guys that's more entertained by "flashy" guys that are excellent on the mic. I guess Bret isn't in my top 10 or top 5 the same reason Benoit isn't. Dunno.

I do think Bret's mic skills are often undersold though. He wasn't a natural on the stick, but his promos just seemed very genuine and honest. You still wanted to hear what the guy had to say.

Like I said though, Flair is the 2nd greatest of all time and his style was just right up my alley. I voted Flair. Wish he would stop destroying his own legacy though.

[whiteyford]

I voted Bret. Flair has put on the same match for 20 years with only random moments of awesomeness. Yeah the dude is a legend and I respect him but Hart was way more versatile in the ring and a little less formulaic.

Sums it up for me.

[jskinnyg]

Ric Flair is the second greatest professional wrestler of all time. (The first being Savage, IMO) Bret is probably in my top 15, but not in my top 5 like alot of guys on here. But, then again, I'm just one of those guys that's more entertained by "flashy" guys that are excellent on the mic. I guess Bret isn't in my top 10 or top 5 the same reason Benoit isn't. Dunno.

I do think Bret's mic skills are often undersold though. He wasn't a natural on the stick, but his promos just seemed very genuine and honest. You still wanted to hear what the guy had to say.

Like I said though, Flair is the 2nd greatest of all time and his style was just right up my alley. I voted Flair. Wish he would stop destroying his own legacy though.


THIS PERIOD WHOOOOOOOOO!!! Ric wins this on Mic Skills alone... Talk about FLAIR having the same match for 20 years, so true... But Bret's last 5 was the same... Predictable... The difference was that Flair is STILL entertaining... Even in a fucking Wheelchair... Bret at WM 27?? C'mon fella?

[Nark Order]

don't agree with me

[XCaliber]

Bret cuz he is the man WOOOOO!

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

Bret Hitman Hart, Bret beat flair many times.

[BizarroKing]

Bret is great, but Flair does have style and can talk a big game.

[St. Jimmy]

The Naitch baby, not even close.

[St. Jimmy]

I'm glad we're getting bret out of the way now, though. We never have to deal with this many sock votes again.

[The Pope]

Ric Flair, He's still pretty good on the mic, 16 time world champ... and he's God!!

[Joesgonnakillyou]

Gaaah! I don't know...

My heart says Bret and my mind is undecided. They're both incredible. I guess i'll have to vote with sentiment if I can't do it with logic.

[Nicky Fives]

Bret is HOF-bound

[Supreme Olajuwon]

God damn, Bret is rolling

[Lock Jaw]

Flair.

Anything else would be uncivilized.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ric Flair overall but both are great wrestlers and should be in Hall since at the rate things are going, there is enough "big" names to prevent anyone else from going into the Hall unless it becomes a sympathy or get-it-over-with vote.

Bret was the better wrestler in terms of skills while Flair had better charisma and promo skills. Even though Flair should have stopped wrestling years ago, he still has tremendous value as a manager or at least as a mouthpiece to a young/inexperienced wrestler (ex. Heyman with Brock Lesnar).

[weather vane]

flair big time

[Ruien]

Kind of crazy how Flairs TNA run and Brets WWE run have changed everyone's perspective.

[Lock Jaw]

I am still thoroughly entertained by Flair.

Bret, less so, but that is because Bret is not on Flair's level on the microphone or charisma department.

[dhellova guy]

Flair. Ring work, they are equal. Mic skills, Flair is far superior.

[dweebo420]

flair by a mile bret is great but if he was a great as he claims to be no one will be able to touch him

[James Steele]

Greatest of all time or a pink-clad whiny cunt?


THE NAITCH EVERY TIME! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://ricflair.com/shop/catalog/images/LTE-RF1002.jpg

[Juan]

http://www.camelclutchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/hartflair.jpg

[VSG]

No, this is how it's done:

http://www.rfgolds.com/Ric%20Flair%20got%20Bret%20Hart%20in%20Figure%204-medium.jpg

Even the ref digs it! If you can give a couple of low blows while at it, why not?

[James Steele]

http://ricflair.com/shop/catalog/images/LTE-RF1002.jpg

That is neon salmon, not pink.

[Executioner]

http://www.camelclutchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/hartflair.jpg

Earl Hebner looks on as Bret attempts to examine Ric's prostate the hard way.








Voted for Flair btw. I was far more entertained by Flair's matches and promos than Bret's although Bret is a Top 5 of all time for me as well.

[Lock Jaw]

Honestly can't believe Bret is beating Flair, let alone by this wide of a margin.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It's probably because Flair reeks of desperation right now. Bret is on WWE TV and Flair is on TNA TV.

If this poll was taken 3 or 4 years ago it might have been different.

[jskinnyg]

Flair.

Anything else would be uncivilized.

I can't believe Bret is killin' the Naitch... Technical Mat skills are all Brets got on him...

Dean Malenko & Lance Storm's lovechild would talk better on the mic than Bret... Actually that's a bit harsh but I like it... And I think I'm gonna hurl now...

[jskinnyg]

http://ricflair.com/shop/catalog/images/LTE-RF1002.jpg

And that's a BIG FUCKING TOUCHE!

[itsmeJD]

I agree with SlickyTricky on this one, Flair in TNA is kinda sad for me to watch. He deserves better and creative there just sucks ass to the point that it's miserable to watch. He should have stuck to the sendoff WWE gave him but hey...gotta pay the bills right? I voted Hart simply because while Flair had him beat on the mic, Bret had him beat in the ring. Just enjoyed his work more, sorry Naitch.

[The Gold Standard]

It's probably because Flair reeks of desperation right now. Bret is on WWE TV and Flair is on TNA TV.

If this poll was taken 3 or 4 years ago it might have been different.

I agree with this. However, my vote wouldn't have changed, but I think it probably would have been different.

[Krimzon7]

There is no finite number to Brett Hart Mark Socks in TPWW. who stood a chance?

[Nark Order]

I'm reminded of when Hennig beat Savage here.

[Krimzon7]

I'm reminded of how Hart beat THE FUCKING ROCK! The fucking sychophants on this board. How many Rock appreciation Circle Jerks have we seen all over this board, only to have him shunned of the glorious TPWW HOF induction?

Scientology was right about you motherfuckers....

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Shut up, you fucking crybabies.

[Krimzon7]

Your thetans would not approve of your dickery Olajuwon...if that's your real name!